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February 03, 2025, 11:38:53 AM
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I agree ICC main goals seem to be wrong with making money being more important than helping cricket grow all around world. What happened to Kenya is clear example of ICC ignoring and not supporting teams that are not as strong. We can see results with Kenya cricket team having hard time getting back on its feet. It is very worrying that ICC does not seem to be learning from mistakes it made in past and Uganda might have same problems. ICC needs to think again about what is most important and give real help to countries that are just starting to play cricket so that sport can grow and get better everywhere.
The strong survive while the weak perish. This is how this world works sadly and the same logic applies to cricket too. Only strong teams will continue matching forward while the weak ones will fade away.

The ICC is just another corrupt organization whose main priority is money just like any other sports organization out there which is why expecting them to help weak teams is fantasy stuff.

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February 03, 2025, 03:12:16 PM
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Bahrain vs Hong Kong A

Is there anyone here who the watch the third play off match of Hong Kong one competition which was played among Bahrain squad and Hong Kong A squad.

Bahrain displayed very bad performance in this match and faced a big defeat and their members managed to collect 77 scores off 50 over inning. Sheryar Khan expressed significant performance and played important role to emerge victory in this match by displaying fantastic strength and picked up 5 crucial wickets of Bahrain squad. With other two bowlers displayed amazing performance and these two are Benny Paras and Daniel Mapp and both collected 3 and 2 wickets respectively. Sunny Bhimsaria  and Shahid Wasif these also played with great performance and collecting 21 and 31 scores respectively.

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February 03, 2025, 03:15:05 PM
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At present, cricket is limited to a few countries, so people do not have much interest in it. Because when there is a good match, only a few countries are present. That is why a change is definitely needed. If countries like Kenya are brought back to cricket, then as the number of fans in cricket increases, we can enjoy competitive matches.

In this regard only ICC can play the most important role in doing this. If the organization plans to divide the money according to the category and give it to all these countries, then even if there is no improvement in the short term, cricket will definitely gain in the long term. The cricket organization will also be able to earn more revenue.
Because of slow and boring games like Test and ODI, cricket is limited in most countries but in last 2 decades things take quick changes especially T20I with IPL brought new highs; now many countries are working on this and also have good development as well. ICC is having never been well professional and organized team which hurts them badly because for the development of any game organization is always important, but sadly they never works as balanced, so now things are still not going as needed.

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February 03, 2025, 03:30:50 PM
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Bahrain vs Hong Kong A

Is there anyone here who the watch the third play off match of Hong Kong one competition which was played among Bahrain squad and Hong Kong A squad.

Bahrain displayed very bad performance in this match and faced a big defeat and their members managed to collect 77 scores off 50 over inning. Sheryar Khan expressed significant performance and played important role to emerge victory in this match by displaying fantastic strength and picked up 5 crucial wickets of Bahrain squad. With other two bowlers displayed amazing performance and these two are Benny Paras and Daniel Mapp and both collected 3 and 2 wickets respectively. Sunny Bhimsaria  and Shahid Wasif these also played with great performance and collecting 21 and 31 scores respectively.
Yes, Bahrain played a very good match Bahrain again lost match. Hong Kong had played well in the previous matches and won. In this match they played well and won again making the fans very happy.hong kong played a fast match, and they were happy with their overall performance.  Hong Kong a won game by 7 wickets and 189 balls. The Play off match between Hong Kong A and Bahrain was played at Mission Road Ground. Bahrain won the toss and batting first. Sheryar Khan bowled very wellfor  Hong Kong A team. The best bowling performance in the Hong Kong A man team was by TrSheryar Khan bowled  9.2 overs and took 5 wickets conceded 29 runs.











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February 03, 2025, 03:49:30 PM
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The strong survive while the weak perish. This is how this world works sadly and the same logic applies to cricket too. Only strong teams will continue matching forward while the weak ones will fade away.

The ICC is just another corrupt organization whose main priority is money just like any other sports organization out there which is why expecting them to help weak teams is fantasy stuff.
There is hardly any scope for increasing the pool of Test cricket nations due to obvious reasons; funding. Now talk of a group system is going on and if implemented, few established teams won't take red ball seriously.

In regards to ODI, it's on a ventilator and got some breathing space in the last ODI WC. The upcoming Champions Trophy is another effort to energize the cricketing world but things are not looking good because ODI bilaterals have been reduced systematically, only to cater T-20 format.

T-20 is the only format where every team can sustain the cost and compete with anyone, even weak can survive here

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February 03, 2025, 04:50:18 PM
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Bahrain vs Hong Kong A

Is there anyone here who the watch the third play off match of Hong Kong one competition which was played among Bahrain squad and Hong Kong A squad.

Bahrain displayed very bad performance in this match and faced a big defeat and their members managed to collect 77 scores off 50 over inning. Sheryar Khan expressed significant performance and played important role to emerge victory in this match by displaying fantastic strength and picked up 5 crucial wickets of Bahrain squad. With other two bowlers displayed amazing performance and these two are Benny Paras and Daniel Mapp and both collected 3 and 2 wickets respectively. Sunny Bhimsaria  and Shahid Wasif these also played with great performance and collecting 21 and 31 scores respectively.
Yes, I have watched the complete match of the Hong Kong Tri series played between the Bahrain team and Hong Kong A. Hong Kong A outstanding batting performance beating Bahrain by seven wickets. Hong Kong A chased down an easy target of 79 runs in a loss of just three wickets in the 19th over of the match. The man Of The Match award goes to Sheryar Khan for his remarkable bowling performance picked five wicket haul. Sheryar Khan's bowling spells was amazing to watch picked 5 important wickets by just giving only 29 runs and restricted Bahrain to under 80 runs. Bahrain team needs to improve its batting departments and make some changes in the team if they want to win matches in the Future because they are lacking in batting unit in this Tri-series.

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February 03, 2025, 05:40:06 PM
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Bahrain displayed very bad performance in this match and faced a big defeat and their members managed to collect 77 scores off 50 over inning. Sheryar Khan expressed significant performance and played important role to emerge victory in this match by displaying fantastic strength and picked up 5 crucial wickets of Bahrain squad. With other two bowlers displayed amazing performance and these two are Benny Paras and Daniel Mapp and both collected 3 and 2 wickets respectively. Sunny Bhimsaria  and Shahid Wasif these also played with great performance and collecting 21 and 31 scores respectively.
Yes, Bahrain played a very good match Bahrain again lost match. Hong Kong had played well in the previous matches and won. In this match they played well and won again making the fans very happy.hong kong played a fast match, and they were happy with their overall performance.  Hong Kong a won game by 7 wickets and 189 balls. The Play off match between Hong Kong A and Bahrain was played at Mission Road Ground. Bahrain won the toss and batting first. Sheryar Khan bowled very wellfor  Hong Kong A team. The best bowling performance in the Hong Kong A man team was by TrSheryar Khan bowled  9.2 overs and took 5 wickets conceded 29 runs.
Yep, in third game of the tri-series which was not so interesting, the game between the two did not have much effort. As we have seen in the previous matches as per the toss prediction in their match, the team winning the toss will choose to bat first as most of the matches played in the recent matches played at Tin King Road Recreation Ground are difficult to score. Bahrain has broken people's hearts by playing badly in this game, they should have played well in this game. Bahraini batsmen have scored only 79 runs in this game which is not enough to win. The top scorer for Bahrain is Rizwan Butt who scored 17 runs while Shehbaz scored 14 runs. Apart from him, the other batsmen played very poorly due to which their target was very low which also led to their defeat. Hong Kong batsmen scored 79 runs to win the match which was easy for them. Shahid and Sunny scored more runs for Hong Kong and won the game quite easily.

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February 04, 2025, 02:06:14 AM
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There is hardly any scope for increasing the pool of Test cricket nations due to obvious reasons; funding. Now talk of a group system is going on and if implemented, few established teams won't take red ball seriously.

In regards to ODI, it's on a ventilator and got some breathing space in the last ODI WC. The upcoming Champions Trophy is another effort to energize the cricketing world but things are not looking good because ODI bilaterals have been reduced systematically, only to cater T-20 format.

T-20 is the only format where every team can sustain the cost and compete with anyone, even weak can survive here
One big problem is that there is not enough money to let more countries play Test cricket and new group system might make things worse. If it happens some good teams might not care about Test cricket as much as they used to. ODI format is also having trouble staying popular even though last ODI World Cup helped a bit. It is also bad that there are fewer ODI matches between countries now so that more T20 matches can happen. But it is true that T20 cricket is fairer because smaller teams can compete with bigger teams and it is easier for many countries to keep playing.

 
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Just 4 days to go, Tri nation series is not too far anymore. Here will be 4 matches, 2 of them will be play in Lahore Qaddafi Stadium, Lahore and two of them will hosted by Karachi National Stadium and I think it can be good think to allow  Qaddafi Stadium to hosts these games because just some of the days before the renovation has completed in the Qaddafi Stadium and now it is too different as compare to the previous look.

Everyone was saying it is not possible to make stadium in few days including me too because it was a lot of work but the labour team did it too fast before ICC deadline that will over in 5th February. Also labour did extra work by making a statue of a player when you enter in the Gaddafi Stadium  from liberty side then you see a statue of a player, player did not relieved so far but a bowler.

By the way, as I heard that the lights are AI based in the stadium meanwhile when a player out or hit six light will be dim or too high and also after every single game, we will see the little bit of laser show in every game.


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In regards to ODI, it's on a ventilator and got some breathing space in the last ODI WC. The upcoming Champions Trophy is another effort to energize the cricketing world but things are not looking good because ODI bilaterals have been reduced systematically, only to cater T-20 format.

T-20 is the only format where every team can sustain the cost and compete with anyone, even weak can survive here
I actually feel the test format is on a ventilator when compared to the ODI format primarily because of the 50 over World Cups which have been consistently successful over the years.

T20 format has established itself as the numero uno format currently thanks to breathing new life into a sport which got very repetitive over the years.

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February 04, 2025, 11:51:59 AM
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In regards to ODI, it's on a ventilator and got some breathing space in the last ODI WC. The upcoming Champions Trophy is another effort to energize the cricketing world but things are not looking good because ODI bilaterals have been reduced systematically, only to cater T-20 format.

T-20 is the only format where every team can sustain the cost and compete with anyone, even weak can survive here
I actually feel the test format is on a ventilator when compared to the ODI format primarily because of the 50 over World Cups which have been consistently successful over the years.

T20 format has established itself as the numero uno format currently thanks to breathing new life into a sport which got very repitive over the years.
I strongly feel test can survive but now ODI is needed to be done until 2031 then ICC needs to have overhaul into their strategy which will give good lifeline to test format with T20i is going to be main thing in this game.
ODI is completely out of content due to length and have no good entertainment, but Test format is still had something for many in few countries, but now it's time to bring tier system because this will inject good energy for countries to increase their quality even it's not easy for many newbies, but old guards can bring good results and improvement which is important.

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Today Shubman Gill made a controversial statement regarding the omission of Karun Nair from the Champions Trophy squad. According to Gill, players should not be dropped even if they perform poorly, as it will impact the stability of the team.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/story/cricket-karun-nair-champions-trophy-snub-shubman-gill-india-vs-england-2674900-2025-02-04

Gill himself has been out of form for quite some time, while Nair scored 779 runs from 8 matches during the Vijay Hazare Trophy at an average of 389.50. Chief selector Ajit Agarkar also had made a similar statement some time back.

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February 04, 2025, 02:49:54 PM
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In regards to ODI, it's on a ventilator and got some breathing space in the last ODI WC. The upcoming Champions Trophy is another effort to energize the cricketing world but things are not looking good because ODI bilaterals have been reduced systematically, only to cater T-20 format.

T-20 is the only format where every team can sustain the cost and compete with anyone, even weak can survive here
I actually feel the test format is on a ventilator when compared to the ODI format primarily because of the 50 over World Cups which have been consistently successful over the years.

T20 format has established itself as the numero uno format currently thanks to breathing new life into a sport which got very repitive over the years.
Not in danger as far as BIG-3 are concerned and numbers are going up (eyeballs and money).

-In a tricky situation in SA (they sent their B team to NZ) but they are in WTC finals so everything works out.

-Kiwis are not going anywhere as they have enough talent and they humiliated India in test cricket just recently.

-Pakistan was a big mess, still is but I feel they hit rock bottom and the trajectory could only go up from here. 

-Sri Lanka are in a better situation as talent is coming up regularly.

-Windies is a curious case and could go both ways.

-Bangbros are depressed and I have no hope left for them.
while Nair scored 779 runs from 8 matches during the Vijay Hazare Trophy at an average of 389.50. Chief selector Ajit Agarkar also had made a similar statement some time back.
He's an average cricketer in domestic cricket and one god mode season after playing countless seasons doesn't guarantee anything in Indian cricket.

To give you context, the likes of Gill, Pant, Shaw and countless others got into the Indian team (squad or scheme of things) after averaging 50+ (in some cases 60+).

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February 04, 2025, 04:30:38 PM
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Honestly this is best thing I have watched related to upcoming Champions Trophy: https://youtu.be/CADwZ7OE6ak

Cummins can act too, he didn't look out of place unlike players in the CT 2025 ad from ICC itself, and this ad actually got me hyped unlike the official one, ICC should hire some proper content creators.

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February 04, 2025, 05:16:02 PM
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Another exciting series between India and England will be held in the next few days, meaning the ODI series between England and India will be held in a few days. Maybe everyone has observed the recent T20 series between these two teams where India was the more aggressive in terms of performance and statistics. So in this situation we can say that if the England team wants to have any chance of winning against India, they will have to play very well. According to past records, India is still far ahead of the England team, also India has many experienced players in this series, which gives them the best chance of performing well.

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Just 4 days to go, Tri nation series is not too far anymore. Here will be 4 matches, 2 of them will be play in Lahore Qaddafi Stadium, Lahore and two of them will hosted by Karachi National Stadium and I think it can be good think to allow  Qaddafi Stadium to hosts these games because just some of the days before the renovation has completed in the Qaddafi Stadium and now it is too different as compare to the previous look.

Everyone was saying it is not possible to make stadium in few days including me too because it was a lot of work but the labour team did it too fast before ICC deadline that will over in 5th February. Also labour did extra work by making a statue of a player when you enter in the Gaddafi Stadium  from liberty side then you see a statue of a player, player did not relieved so far but a bowler.

By the way, as I heard that the lights are AI based in the stadium meanwhile when a player out or hit six light will be dim or too high and also after every single game, we will see the little bit of laser show in every game.
To be honest I am really excited for such clashes between Pakistan, south Africa, and new Zealand, as it will help player to experience pitch condition and prepare for Champions trophy right before it. Anyway it's true that pakistan cricket board work harder to make sure things ok before that big icc event, no doubt they work day night in both shift and now finally things seems to be done before the deadline, more ever that AI controlled light will really make things excited as it will some how explained crowed emotions on ongoing situation.
Well from some sources I got that statue will be a running player which look cool. Hope so tournament will done smoothly without any intruption.

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February 05, 2025, 02:14:00 AM
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Another exciting series between India and England will be held in the next few days, meaning the ODI series between England and India will be held in a few days. Maybe everyone has observed the recent T20 series between these two teams where India was the more aggressive in terms of performance and statistics. So in this situation we can say that if the England team wants to have any chance of winning against India, they will have to play very well. According to past records, India is still far ahead of the England team, also India has many experienced players in this series, which gives them the best chance of performing well.
Upcoming ODI series between India and England is very exciting and based on their recent T20 series India seems to be in better position. England will need to play their best cricket if they want to compete with India strong performance. In past India has usually been better than England and with experienced players on their team they seem likely to win this series. England will need to come up with good plan to deal with India strengths if they want to have any chance of winning. It will be interesting to see how England responds to challenge and if they can make India work hard to win.

 
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February 05, 2025, 07:35:29 AM
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Upcoming ODI series between India and England is very exciting and based on their recent T20 series India seems to be in better position. England will need to play their best cricket if they want to compete with India strong performance. In past India has usually been better than England and with experienced players on their team they seem likely to win this series. England will need to come up with good plan to deal with India strengths if they want to have any chance of winning. It will be interesting to see how England responds to challenge and if they can make India work hard to win.
If the performance was the same as like the t20, then I don't think there will be much excitement for me regarding this series because we see zero competition with his both team. Because the series was like only one sided for the Indian team. England's team did not perform well against the Indian team, although they won the third match. Their batting performance in particular was absolutely terrible.

However, I am curious to see how the Indian team will perform in the upcoming ODI series despite performing well against England in the T20 format because the Indian team has played poorly in the ODI format in recent matches, especially against Sri Lanka and South Africa. If the performance is like this, then I think there will be excitement in the match.

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Not in danger as far as BIG-3 are concerned and numbers are going up (eyeballs and money).

-In a tricky situation in SA (they sent their B team to NZ) but they are in WTC finals so everything works out.

-Kiwis are not going anywhere as they have enough talent and they humiliated India in test cricket just recently.

-Pakistan was a big mess, still is but I feel they hit rock bottom and the trajectory could only go up from here. 

-Sri Lanka are in a better situation as talent is coming up regularly.

-Windies is a curious case and could go both ways.

-Bangbros are depressed and I have no hope left for them.

Pakistan had a terrible time going on in test format at home. They have won only one home series out of last six. Recently PCB hit upon the idea of making spinner friendly pitches to win the series and it worked against England but not against West Indies. So it's not the pitch that's the issue but the performance of the team. Batsmen like Babar Azam and Shan Masood are doing more damage to team then good, it's time for these big names to play domestic and improve there performance while giving chance to your talent in squad.

Not sure it's the rock bottom or we have to see more worse before seeing the trajectory going up.

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Bahrain displayed very bad performance in this match and faced a big defeat and their members managed to collect 77 scores off 50 over inning. Sheryar Khan expressed significant performance and played important role to emerge victory in this match by displaying fantastic strength and picked up 5 crucial wickets of Bahrain squad. With other two bowlers displayed amazing performance and these two are Benny Paras and Daniel Mapp and both collected 3 and 2 wickets respectively. Sunny Bhimsaria  and Shahid Wasif these also played with great performance and collecting 21 and 31 scores respectively.
Yes, Bahrain played a very good match Bahrain again lost match. Hong Kong had played well in the previous matches and won. In this match they played well and won again making the fans very happy.hong kong played a fast match, and they were happy with their overall performance.  Hong Kong a won game by 7 wickets and 189 balls. The Play off match between Hong Kong A and Bahrain was played at Mission Road Ground. Bahrain won the toss and batting first. Sheryar Khan bowled very wellfor  Hong Kong A team. The best bowling performance in the Hong Kong A man team was by TrSheryar Khan bowled  9.2 overs and took 5 wickets conceded 29 runs.
Yep, in third game of the tri-series which was not so interesting, the game between the two did not have much effort. As we have seen in the previous matches as per the toss prediction in their match, the team winning the toss will choose to bat first as most of the matches played in the recent matches played at Tin King Road Recreation Ground are difficult to score. Bahrain has broken people's hearts by playing badly in this game, they should have played well in this game. Bahraini batsmen have scored only 79 runs in this game which is not enough to win. The top scorer for Bahrain is Rizwan Butt who scored 17 runs while Shehbaz scored 14 runs. Apart from him, the other batsmen played very poorly due to which their target was very low which also led to their defeat. Hong Kong batsmen scored 79 runs to win the match which was easy for them. Shahid and Sunny scored more runs for Hong Kong and won the game quite easily.
In this match, I feel sorry for Bahrain that they have not performed well.  If they had played well in this match, they would have.  could have won but they could only make 7 7 in the match which was a very easy target which the Hong Kong batsmen would win the match by achieving this target in 18 overs.  Bahrain should work hard so that they can play well and win the match Hong Kong won the match because of their good performance.  Bahraini bowlers will also watch the match because they could not do anything and will lose this match.  If their batsmen had given a target of 150, their bowlers might have worked harder to win the match and taken the pressure and wickets to win the match, which could have won them the match.  But due to lack of interest and pressure on the Bahraini batsmen, they will lose the match.

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