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July 28, 2019, 04:17:47 AM |
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Satoshi used tor at all times when interacting with the bitcoin community back in 2009-2010. Very unlikely satoshis real IP address was ever captured.
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Pffrt
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July 28, 2019, 04:22:23 AM |
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With TOR browser, users IP address is encrypted, thus, it is impossible to trace the entry node and exit node. It's certain that he never used his real IP address other than TOR. Thereof, releasing his IP will not have much information towards revealing his identity.
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If Satoshi becomes know then bitcoin is dead. It defeats the entire purpose and reason for bitcoin. If the creator cannot stay annonomous the currency has failed.
i think you are very confused about the "purpose" of bitcoin! it has never been anonymity and nobody has ever made such claims specially the creator (Satoshi Nakamoto). in fact bitcoin is the most transparent currency in existence. all it provides is privacy. and the "reason" for creation of bitcoin was to cut the middle man aka the centralization.
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July 28, 2019, 08:33:35 AM |
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So many Satoshi post's today all of a sudden in many of these sub-categories. Wonder why?
One common trend is that I find that whenever there is a huge Bitcoin bubble, everybody starts to go for the hunt of Satoshi. It happened in 2013-2014 when they found that old guy living in California which had the name Dorian Nakamoto. And during Q4 2017 bullrun there were many posts about "Who is Satoshi".
And now history repeats, BTC hit $14K about a month back and everybody wants to find the whereabouts of Satoshi Nakomoto again.
I honestly don't think he will ever be revealed.
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July 28, 2019, 08:54:32 AM |
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The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi, because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere! Why not revealing them?
Why not revealing them? Is that even a question? Why not let him use his privacy instead of seeking his IP address? There is a reason why he is using tor to access this website at the first place and he even used a screen name to hide his identity.
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July 28, 2019, 09:02:34 AM |
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I think you've forgotten something. Like the blockchain, satoshi created this forum. What makes this forum unique is Satoshi's footprints. Do you think that a clever person like satoshi didn't think about it and take precautions?
Satoshi probably did underestimate one thing, however, and that is how people would just go wild with different theories totally irrational and yet totally accepted by people. That Craig Wright thing for example, just how many people are loving the idea and not questioning anything. This is all helping him cover his tracks by misdirecting people from the real information!
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July 29, 2019, 09:58:45 AM |
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I don't think Satoshi will use his real IP to access this forum. I think every people who are familiar with the security will prevent someone to track him by using VPN, proxy, or hiding using other people IP connection. Trust me, that is hard to find where is the real Satoshi lives and his IP address because I am sure he will hiding his IP and from where he connected to the internet.
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July 30, 2019, 08:38:22 PM Last edit: July 30, 2019, 08:59:06 PM by BitcoinFX |
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If Satoshi becomes know then bitcoin is dead. It defeats the entire purpose and reason for bitcoin. If the creator cannot stay annonomous the currency has failed.
i think you are very confused about the "purpose" of bitcoin! it has never been anonymity and nobody has ever made such claims specially the creator (Satoshi Nakamoto). in fact bitcoin is the most transparent currency in existence. all it provides is privacy. and the "reason" for creation of bitcoin was to cut the middle man aka the centralization. "Finding Satoshi" is half the fun, no? Show me a Satoshi Nakamoto posts which states otherwise! I'm a staunch privacy advocate myself, thus why allow impostors or impersonators to have all the fun ... ..."No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honor and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks."......"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."......"Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author."...All excerpts from; United Nations, Universal Declaration of Human Rights.... Responsibility vs Right to Privacy. or perhaps; - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_privacyvs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten (or privilege to be remembered !?!) ... This is how we end up with this kind of industry nonsense; YouTube's 'Bitcoin and Friends': Why Satoshi Should Never Be Revealed ...- https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-interviewed-by-cointelegraph-head-of-news-molly-zuckermanvs Civil War ...- https://youtu.be/isCh4kCeNYU... Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ...- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191
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July 30, 2019, 09:07:06 PM |
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The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi,because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere! Why not revealing them?
According to Theymos, Satoshi only ever used Tor to access bitcointalk.org - logs do exist, although they have yet to be made public. Source / Reference ... ...snip... I found a source as follows but theymos might have changed his mind.. I'll probably release Satoshi's PMs and logged IPs addresses in ~8 years. This'd probably be of great historical interest. (Though he always used Tor, as far as I can tell.)
All you are going to get is IPs from old tor exit nodes. The whole point of using TOR is so that people can't get your IP to begin with... Which reminds me, was there ever access to this forum as a hidden service .onion address?
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July 30, 2019, 10:08:01 PM Last edit: July 30, 2019, 10:28:30 PM by BitcoinFX |
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The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi,because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere! Why not revealing them?
According to Theymos, Satoshi only ever used Tor to access bitcointalk.org - logs do exist, although they have yet to be made public. Source / Reference ... ...snip... I found a source as follows but theymos might have changed his mind.. I'll probably release Satoshi's PMs and logged IPs addresses in ~8 years. This'd probably be of great historical interest. (Though he always used Tor, as far as I can tell.)
All you are going to get is IPs from old tor exit nodes. The whole point of using TOR is so that people can't get your IP to begin with... Which reminds me, was there ever access to this forum as a hidden service .onion address? Indeed. (I'm someone who has hosted many Tor .exit nodes (in the past) for a number of years ...) No. There was never any hidden service .onion address for bitcointalk.org - to the best of my knowledge. An alt. forum account of mine (i.e. me) actually hosted what can be described as the first (public) Bitcoin addnode=.onion:8333 service for Bitcoin. Here, ... Thanks once more for your help theymos. That's eliminated all error messages with Tor. Now have a stable set number of connections mostly within .onion land Our Bitcoin node should be up 24/7 except for an occasional server restart. Bitcoin only Tor .onion address: bxfna6fhddpzduck.onion ...snip... P.S. I am not Satoshi Nakamoto either. But lots of folks here have (seemingly) lied to you and tried to cover things up ... - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066
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July 30, 2019, 10:35:56 PM |
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The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi, because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere! Why not revealing them?
What if the Satoshi in bitcointalk.org is not the real satoshi? I have my own theory because I think there is a possibility that Satoshi username can made by anyone of us. If it will become real, Satoshi will be appeared and tell us that he is the owner of that username. Anyway, we don't need to investigate him anymore because he already let us use his invention.
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July 30, 2019, 11:58:25 PM |
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I really don't get it why people are eager to know the identity of Satoshi. If he wanted his identity to be known, he would have added it to the bitcoin whitepaper. There is no way anyone here can find the identity of Satoshi. He planned to stay non-known, lets just accept it like that..
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July 31, 2019, 01:31:18 AM |
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Why not revealing them?
then why stop there? why not release the information this site sees from all other users. lets start from you, bitcointalk should release your IP address among other things including browser fingerprint,... Yes! this is just ridiculous. Why would people want to invade Satoshi's Privacy at this point when he really wants it the most. At this point, members are like paparazzi trying to convey the secrets of a missing person for years. Though it's interesting, it's not good to release someone's IP address to the public. As an admin of the forum, he has the reason to not release the IP address of a person.
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July 31, 2019, 03:33:31 AM |
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Why not revealing them?
then why stop there? why not release the information this site sees from all other users. lets start from you, bitcointalk should release your IP address among other things including browser fingerprint,... LOL! Bull's eye! Of all the users here, it is Satoshi's that the OP wanted to be released to the public. Such betrayal of Satoshi's advocacy for anonymity. Bitcoin is designed to protect personal information and now we're trying to dig deeper, releasing sensitive information in the process, to compromise the identity behind the pseudonym. I would be interested in eventually check if these IP are all Tor related. With so many Satoshi popping up to get the Nobel price...
How much? Kidding! Perhaps it is about time the Nobel Pri ze be given to one who is beyond the physical human individual, and make history. Satoshi is an idea. Let the prize be given to it as it is.
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July 31, 2019, 05:41:33 AM |
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Satoshi must have his reasons for remaining anonymous... let's look at this news: Live: Crypto, Blockchain Hearing at US Senate Banking Committeeand now imagine what would happen if today the true identity of satoshi were discovered? Imagine what would happen if the true identity of satoshi were discovered 5 years ago? or 7 years ago? the guy wouldn't have peace with these politicians, courts and regulators
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Why not revealing them?
then why stop there? why not release the information this site sees from all other users. lets start from you, bitcointalk should release your IP address among other things including browser fingerprint,... LOL! Bull's eye! Of all the users here, it is Satoshi's that the OP wanted to be released to the public. Such betrayal of Satoshi's advocacy for anonymity. Bitcoin is designed to protect personal information and now we're trying to dig deeper, releasing sensitive information in the process, to compromise the identity behind the pseudonym. I would be interested in eventually check if these IP are all Tor related. With so many Satoshi popping up to get the Nobel price...
How much? Kidding! Perhaps it is about time the Nobel Pri ze be given to one who is beyond the physical human individual, and make history. Satoshi is an idea. Let the prize be given to it as it is. They probably are old tor exit nodes, but we are talking 10 years ago, IPs do change... I doubt satoshi would let pass any browser fingerprinting. Even i as a mere user knew back then that could fool that by making your browser look like one of the top popular browser/os combination while actually using something quite unique. Back then something windows 7 internet explorer or such you could send to the http server, its not rocket science you know, there are even add-ons to do that, and at some point it was needed for some idiot (bank) sites that would reject decent os/browser combinations because the webmaster couldn't imagine people not using windows and internet explorer... And this is assuming those 10 year old logs are still kept. And if i was satoshi, i would have probably used a live distro (from read only optical media) anyway, connected via tor, not unlike what Tails does by default. That way, at the end of the session turn off the pc and all traces are gone.
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How can you reveal the IP address of someone you don't know about. Do anyone of us knows whose Satoshi is? Talk more of revealing his IP address. Let's leave Satoshi alone and focus more on legality of bitcoin
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How can you reveal the IP address of someone you don't know about. Do anyone of us knows whose Satoshi is? Because Satoshi founded this forum and has/had an account here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3. Given that the forum logs the IPs of everyone who uses it, the IPs Satoshi used to connect to the forum will be logged somewhere and available to the admins, if they so choose to examine them. However, theymos has previously stated he will not be releasing any personal data linked to Satoshi, and even if he did, there is pretty much a zero chance that Satoshi connected to the forum using his own public IP, and not via Tor or similar. As an aside, you can see your the IPs used by your account in the last 30 days here: https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php
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How can you reveal the IP address of someone you don't know about. Do anyone of us knows whose Satoshi is? Talk more of revealing his IP address. Let's leave Satoshi alone and focus more on legality of bitcoin
You see my IP address is 194.246.144.190 in Germany. But I'm not in Germany and that is not my IP address.
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August 03, 2019, 01:48:03 PM |
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The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi, because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere! Why not revealing them?
If theymos reveal such information then it turns out that he can reveal anyones location if he'd liked too.Instead on getting praises on such revealing act,there would really be those people that oppose when it comes to privacy matters.IP log tracing is possible but as said Satoshi do make use of VPN so its still pointless. I think Satoshi have foreseen that this is going to happen in the future, he has kept his privacy successfully on many cases, I'm pretty sure he knows that he can be traced using an IP so he is likely used a vpn and a TOR to log here, he started the privacy thing, right, so he is a master of it.
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