Personal threats, lies, protection of scamer etc. Is it trustworthy?

[KTChampions]

It started after I left message in the topic dedicated to the markiz73 ban appeal:

Stop writing nonsense please

~
Reputable members of the Russian and English community

	Smart man		Hero Member		---		click here

Smart man is involved in:
1.) Mass account trading.
2.) Merit abuse.
3.) Bumping /shilling.
4.) Offering bumping service.
5.) Plagiarism (many accounts from his farms are banned for plagiarism).
6.) Participation in the obvious scam projects.
7.) Account farming.
etc.

I received a personal message from sergey1980 Screenshot
Translation:

hi,
please delete your post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142628.msg51947099#msg51947099

I did not make a rating, but took the data from the topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050922.0
as indicated in the post, look carefully.

I do not take part in your battles, so please do not transfer your fights with the Smart man to this topic.

After I refused him and showed that he was lying, I received the following message:

hi,
please delete your post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142628.msg51947099#msg51947099

No.

I do not take part in your battles, so please do not transfer your fights with the Smart man to this topic.

Lie. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51451682#msg51451682

ok. I just did not understand what I or the markiz73 hurt you.
As a result, you will receive at least 2x enemies.
I am always for peace, but if you want another, do not be angry.

Then we had a short conversation (if necessary, I will provide screenshots and translation, but I do not think that it will be necessary because it is impossible to dispute the facts that are stored in PM) and I was surprised to learn that:
1.) According to sergey1980, Smart Man is not banned for a scam, so everything is OK with him.
2.) sergey1980's goal is to unban Russian participants from the list.
3.) I will get two enemies - the markiz73 and sergey1980.
4.) sergey1980 is not a fan or hater of Smart Man, rarely intersects with him, and in general does not exactly remember their relationship.

I was surprised by this nonsense:
1.) No comments
2.) I think we need to fight for the purity of the forum, and not for a handful of users connected by language or other grounds.
3.) I wonder why he writes on behalf of markiz73? 
4.) The obvious lie. 7 from total 11 merits was sent to Smart man. And he actively defended this scamer.

As I said, all this surprised me, so I decided to look at these users more closely.
Very quickly, I discovered interesting facts:

markiz73
Favorite profiles to send sMerit to
Profile      Sum
Smart man   15 - top1
sergey1980   12 - top2
wx34scx          5   - top4

sergey1980
Favorite profiles to send sMerit to
Profile      Sum
Smart man   7 - top1
wx34scx      1 - top2 (as 3 another users)

wx34scx
Favorite profiles to send sMerit to
Profile      Sum
markiz73      2 - top1/2
Smart man   2 - top1/2

Who is wx34scx?
1.) Banned for plagiarism as markiz73.
2.) Miner as markiz73 and sergey1980.
3.) wx34scx, markiz73 and sergey1980 write a lot in the same topics.
4.) All three of them are very fond of serial scamer Smart Man.


Finally:

Bitcoin Talk Name: markiz73
Bitcoin Talk Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=786044
Rank: Hero Member
Post Count (including this post): 1765
Your Login on UT(web): UT1079651
ETH address: 0xbdebf92e2df52d69462f1a7c3e16d7d85657888a
BTC address: 13ZGxUU3dPubGShvUSL3HZdzeS9PwJkCc1

http://archive.md/6xO5p

#Proof of Authentication:
Bitcointalk username: wx34scx
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2044697
Telegram:@wx34scx
Ethereum address:0xbdebf92e2df52d69462f1a7c3e16d7d85657888a

http://archive.md/apJ3P
sergey1980 not banned, so he obviously managed to clear the history of his posts - 144 posts deleted. With a total remaining quantity of 291. But the information that is enough to draw conclusions about him.
I think his behavior suspicious and not trustworthy.

[Patatas]

Everything your title says is definitely not trustworthy. However, it's all subjective. Whom you think is a scammer will not necessarily be approved by the community. Looking at your case, you sort of have evidence to support it but of course, others have the freedom to accept/reject it.
 Also, I don't know what they meant by that statement. Maybe they wanted to say enemy as in forum's enemy and not in actual life?

As a result, you will receive at least 2x enemies.

[KTChampions]

Also, I don't know what they meant by that statement. Maybe they wanted to say enemy as in forum's enemy and not in actual life?

As a result, you will receive at least 2x enemies.

I think in both cases this is wrong behavior.

[hacker1001101001]

As per I see, markiz73 and wx34scx are surely alts of a same person by looking at the above connected address.

wx34scx was banned on 10/24/2018 as per BPIP and markiz73 was still posting and active until May 09, 2019, which means he was ban evading for an long amount of time without notice.

I am just amazed to see good number of people opposing his ban here. Something looks fishy !  
I even think @KTChampions has a point here and its worth considering.

3.) wx34scx, markiz73 and sergey1980 write a lot in the same topics.

[RapTarX]

As per I see, markiz73 and wx34scx are surely alts of a same person by looking at the above connected address.

wx34scx has only posted once which included the address. markiz73 posted the address in 2017, wx34scx posted in 2018. Not certain, but it looks fishy as well since wx34scx has no more post other than this one. Can't it be that wx34scx is trying to build a connect with markiz73?

[hacker1001101001]

As per I see, markiz73 and wx34scx are surely alts of a same person by looking at the above connected address.

wx34scx has only posted once which included the address. markiz73 posted the address in 2017, wx34scx posted in 2018. Not certain, but it looks fishy as well since wx34scx has no more post other than this one. Can't it be that wx34scx is trying to build a connect with markiz73?

It was my mistake, I added wrong profile url for wx34scx which might have confused you, but wx34scx has more posts not just one if you see. I have edited my post with the correct profile link.

I don't think wx34scx was trying to build fake connection with markiz73 either as it is not logical here anyways as both of them have shared some merits with each other. Also, wx34scx has received merits from just two profiles markiz73 and sergey1980, so the connections in the OP makes sense.

[KTChampions]

I don't think wx34scx was trying to build fake connection with markiz73 either as it is not logical here anyways as both of them have shared some merits with each other. Also, wx34scx has received merits from just two profiles markiz73 and sergey1980, so the connections in the OP makes sense.

The connection between these three accounts is obvious.
Veleor found additional facts:

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 in march 2019, markiz73 was first to include the wx34scx profile in his trust list, even despite the fact that wx34scx was already banned for several months ago.

Accounts sergey1980 and wx34scx were registered in the course of 33 minutes.
- November 10, 2017, 10:49:09 AM sergey1980
- November 10, 2017, 11:21:21 AM wx34scx

[sergey1980]

We must tell the truth.
Who is hacker1001101001, this is a plagiarist,
But the oddity is that he is one of the list that did not pass the appeal procedure.

Please explain what is happening on the forum, or the rules do not work here for everyone?

In the posts of this man found plagiarism and he was banned


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143331.0

Original


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3124081.msg35214741#msg35214741

plagiarism


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3124081.msg35589723#msg35589723

in a very short time we see the result


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021758

The problem here is not in the punishment, but the fact that this person will still remain a plagiarist.


KTChampions is an offended person who blames many respected people on the forum.
here is an example
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161276
He started the topic and then ran away from the discussion.

And now the facts: markiz73 is a professional miner, he helped many users, attracted many people to the mining section. It's nice to read his posts, they are still relevant, after that I want to grow and develop in the subject of cryptocurrency. I can say the same about smartman's posts, he writes a lot of useful information.
I sent all my sent merits for quality posts.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xbdebf92e2df52d69462f1a7c3e16d7d85657888a
Do you see fraud on this address?

And after reading the posts of KTChampions, I want to drown myself. From this man comes one shit in the forum and negative.

You can continue to discuss banned participants, they still will not answer you. This is so mean.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Who is hacker1001101001, this is a plagiarist,

Did he get banned for that and unbanned?  That's news to me.

Anyway, OP presented some decent evidence and presented it well, which is why I merited the post.  I don't know what hacker1001101001's past has to do with any of that.  Either his arguments stand up or they don't, though I am curious now about what you've shown.

[KTChampions]

KTChampions is an offended person who blames many respected people on the forum.
here is an example
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161276
He started the topic and then ran away from the discussion.

One more lie. I showed the facts and it is the business of community to decide how to relate to them. My opinion has not changed.

And now the facts: markiz73 is a professional miner, he helped many users, attracted many people to the mining section. It's nice to read his posts, they are still relevant, after that I want to grow and develop in the subject of cryptocurrency.

For some reason, you forget about other facts:

1.) markiz73 is a plagiarist.
2.) Merit abuser.
3.) Uses alt accounts violating forum rules.
4.) Paid shill bumper as i shown here.

I can say the same about smartman's posts, he writes a lot of useful information.
I sent all my sent merits for quality posts.

Smart man is a serial scammer, who violated almost all the rules of the forum, it is very surprising that you like him.

We must tell the truth.
Who is hacker1001101001~

And what is this nonsense? If you have claims to him, then create a separate topic and write there. Now it looks like an attempt to escape from the issue under discussion.

[Lucius]

Who is hacker1001101001, this is a plagiarist,

Did he get banned for that and unbanned?  That's news to me.

Anyway, OP presented some decent evidence and presented it well, which is why I merited the post.  I don't know what hacker1001101001's past has to do with any of that.  Either his arguments stand up or they don't, though I am curious now about what you've shown.

I think that fact that hacker1001101001 is / was banned for 60 days+2 year signature has nothing with this thread. Problem here is that one of allegedly accused users from OP (sergey1980) is saying something like : "How can a plagiarist say anything about anything", and in this case to point finger in other user of this forum.

It is true that he plagiarized other user post, but from what is presented here, he is not get perma-ban, but instant 60 days +2 years ban.

I agree with The Pharmacist that OP is presented decent evidence, but any accused member is have chance to defend himself, although I admit that this is not the case with banned members (they can only post in Meta).

[suchmoon]

We must tell the truth.
Who is hacker1001101001, this is a plagiarist,
But the oddity is that he is one of the list that did not pass the appeal procedure.

[...]

The problem here is not in the punishment, but the fact that this person will still remain a plagiarist.

Seriously WTF? The fact that hacker1001101001 is still posting here without the ability to get paid for signature for the next 2 years is a good thing, and your whataboutism devalues your argument if you ever had any.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xbdebf92e2df52d69462f1a7c3e16d7d85657888a
Do you see fraud on this address?

Is wx34scx an alt of markiz73? Keep in mind that admins can see a lot more than just an ETH address so if these two users are alts then the ban appeal will never succeed (due to ban evasion) and you're just wasting everyone's time.

[hacker1001101001]

We must tell the truth.
Who is hacker1001101001, this is a plagiarist,
But the oddity is that he is one of the list that did not pass the appeal procedure.

The problem here is not in the punishment, but the fact that this person will still remain a plagiarist.

Good way of defending yourself by attacking others, you are just digging your own hole here nothing else. I saw your post earlier about you being unhappy with my temp ban, but didn't bothered to post there as it would be against the rule from my part when I was banned. I was temp banned by the global mod himself before starting the ban appeal thread, it was because I am not here to spam the forum like you, yes I made a mistake when I was new here but, I have accepted my punishment, have gone through a 2 months long temp ban and still bearing the signature ban at the same time helping people fight scammers and keep the forum clean as much as I can. You are just a ban evader as per I see.

And now the facts: markiz73 is a professional miner, he helped many users, attracted many people to the mining section. It's nice to read his posts, they are still relevant, after that I want to grow and develop in the subject of cryptocurrency. I can say the same about smartman's posts, he writes a lot of useful information.
I sent all my sent merits for quality posts.

How would you explain the connecting address and the registration time overlaps you have with your favourite merit senders and receivers, its straight merit farming here and an solid proof of you being an alt.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xbdebf92e2df52d69462f1a7c3e16d7d85657888a
Do you see fraud on this address?

Yes, I see.

The address was used by both markiz73 and wx34scx. markiz73 has also used the same address in one of the yahoo62278's bounty and you could find it in the spreadsheet here. Both of them have merited each other for some stupid and shitty posts if you see. At the same time you too have merit connecting with both of them, and the interesting thing is you and the banned culprit were registered on the same day with pretty less time gap. All of the above things direct the connecting of all three being the same user, some one with single figured IQ would easily see the connections.

You can continue to discuss banned participants, they still will not answer you. This is so mean.

Or you could say we are discussing ban evaders like you here. Adminstration should surely check your IP connections, I am sure you are the same person and you too should be banned.


EDIT:
Isn't it funny to see two users safar1980 and sergey1980 with similar usernames, supporting a same person markiz73 for a unban appeal and yes ofcourse they have merit connections too. You have too much to hide!

[sergey1980]

Who is hacker1001101001, this is a plagiarist,

Did he get banned for that and unbanned?  That's news to me.

Anyway, OP presented some decent evidence and presented it well, which is why I merited the post.  I don't know what hacker1001101001's past has to do with any of that.  Either his arguments stand up or they don't, though I am curious now about what you've shown.

I have no desire to argue.
All that is written about me is speculation, and I give you the facts.
This person was banned for plagiarism on the forum, but was very quickly unbaned (the procedure took 2 hours).
This is the fastest unban process  in the history of this forum. LOL
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143331.0
http://archive.md/s6y5C

This person began to actively initiate feedback from 2019-02-22. He is registered June 05, 2017.
Apparently they want to assign this person to an important post. If this happens, I hope you show the community my post.

I showed you the policy of double standards in this forum:Some users wait for the solution for months, while others 2 hours.


I wish you every success cheese

[suchmoon]

I give you the facts.

You're avoiding the important ones though:

I showed you the policy of double standards in this forum:Some users wait for the solution for months, while others 2 hours.

markiz73 might be waiting forever if there was ban evasion.

[KTChampions]

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Is wx34scx an alt of markiz73? Keep in mind that admins can see a lot more than just an ETH address so if these two users are alts then the ban appeal will never succeed (due to ban evasion) and you're just wasting everyone's time.

If you assume that he will answer you honestly, then do not forget to ask about the details of this.

~
Then if you dig in here, then each has several alts or other violations, although I also know people who have hundreds of alts.
~

[mikeywith]

I showed you the policy of double standards in this forum:Some users wait for the solution for months, while others 2 hours.

I do understand the frustration here, I am sure other members who are even better for the "community as a whole" were not half as lucky as  hacker1001101001 was , but this frustration comes from overexpectations, you think this form is managed by some sort of God who is always consistent with his actions but that is not the case here.

Apparently the ban related stuff are now controlled by more than one person, a global mod has already explained this thing to you in your topic, but you refuse to understand.

Global mods were given the ability to ban signatures only yesterday. Do you think we can get through all the appeals in one day? Be patient.

so long story short : Yes hacker1001101001 was luckier than 90% of all other banned-members, but this does not mean his arguments are invalid, also there is no point repeating the same shit you started a whole thread for here.


Now back to the subject, OP where are the "Personal threats"   I don't seem to find any !

Let's evaluate the facts you presented.

1.) Banned for plagiarism as markiz73.

There are thousands of banned users, trying to connect them this way is not smart.

2.) Miner as markiz73 and sergey1980.

Same as the point above, except for maybe hundreds and not thousands

3.) wx34scx, markiz73 and sergey1980 write a lot in the same topics.

philipma1957 and I always write a lot in the same topics ,it's because we share the same interest, it does not mean we are alts, it's normal for a group of people to always post in the same topic/s-- this theory is plain stupid.

4.) All three of them are very fond of serial scamer Smart Man.

I checked Smart Man's profile, all I found was your negative feedback, along with some other random user's feedback, if he was a serial scammer wouldn't he have a type 1 flag or at least a negative from DT member? I do not understand the logic behind this accusation.

The only semi-valid thing would be the ETH address, but if you are expecting any action from DT members you should really consider focusing on one thing, but in this topic you are.

1-Accusing sergey1980 for threatening you.
2-Accusing wx34scx ,sergey1980 and markiz73 for being the same person.
3-Accusing Smart Man for being a serial scammer.

all three points have little to no evidence, the way this seems to me is that you THINK Smart Man is a scammer, sergey1980 reffered to him as "Reputable" in an attempt to help markiz73's ban appeal , you pointed that out and told him that was "nonsense" , he Pm'ed you , pissed you off and now you are mad at everyone sergey1980 likes.

[suchmoon]

The only semi-valid thing would be the ETH address, but if you are expecting any action from DT members you should really consider focusing on one thing, but in this topic you are.

That's the problem with OP - habitually presents speculation as facts and gets all pissy when people disagree. There's definitely something fishy about this whole markiz73 thing but it's impossible to separate fact from fiction. sergey1980's evasive bullshit doesn't help for sure.

[KTChampions]

Now back to the subject, OP where are the "Personal threats"   I don't seem to find any !

It is your opinion. I have a different opinion. I believe that if someone writes me and promises that I will have at least 2 enemies (and he speaks on behalf of another person - as sergey1980 speaks on behalf of the markiz73), then I regard this as a threat and suspicious behavior.

Let's evaluate the facts you presented.

1.) Banned for plagiarism as markiz73.

There are thousands of banned users, trying to connect them this way is not smart.

2.) Miner as markiz73 and sergey1980.

Same as the point above, except for maybe hundreds and not thousands

3.) wx34scx, markiz73 and sergey1980 write a lot in the same topics.

philipma1957 and I always write a lot in the same topics ,it's because we share the same interest, it does not mean we are alts, it's normal for a group of people to always post in the same topic/s-- this theory is plain stupid.

4.) All three of them are very fond of serial scamer Smart Man.

I checked Smart Man's profile, all I found was your negative feedback, along with some other random user's feedback, if he was a serial scammer wouldn't he have a type 1 flag or at least a negative from DT member? I do not understand the logic behind this accusation.

We have different opinions on this issue. You think that these are separate facts. I think they are interrelated.

I checked Smart Man's profile, all I found was your negative feedback, along with some other random user's feedback, if he was a serial scammer wouldn't he have a type 1 flag or at least a negative from DT member? I do not understand the logic behind this accusation.

kzv - DT1 member
DIKUL - DT1 member
madnessteat - DT2 member

If you do not trust them, then check own words of Smart Man.

[mikeywith]

I have a different opinion.

We have different opinions on this issue.

We all have different opinions, but nobody with common sense tag users based on someone else's "opinions", you need a solid proof of all that points you stated, I see no proof ! probably nobody else does, all i see is your "opinions" which with all due respect, mean nothing.

If you do not trust them, then check own words of Smart Man.

Non of those member's feedback appear to me by default , someone I trust must have excluded them, and I do trust the judgment of everyone in my trust list, so I don't take those guys claims seriously,  but again non of their feedback state that he is a serial scammer.




I don't know any of those guys you are accusing, but I am trying to help you out in understanding that things don't really work this way around here, while someone may be tagged for using the word "Lemon", most decent DT members won't take your claims and opinions seriously if there is no solid evidence.

This is all I have to say with respect to this topic.

habitually presents speculation as facts

Who does that remind you of ?