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August 13, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
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~ I accept all my failures in life including in gambling, and started over again i'm happy enough for this.

There is a big difference between accepting your failures in life and starting over again and doing the same in gambling. And the difference is there already when you are only planning to start your activity. It would be ridiculous to think in advance that you will fail with almost any of our daily life activities, but in gambling this kind of thinking is generally considered the most correct one

I think we in fact fail in planning most of our daily activities. And that's not because we are so bad planners ourselves but rather because we are living in a fantasy world created by our imagination where things are not what they really are. It just so happens that the mistakes we make in real life can be easily fixed in a semi-automatic way without a lot of thinking and contemplating. They don't lead to massive financial losses, either. That's why we don't particularly care about them, so they mostly go unnoticed by us

But gambling (as well as trading, for the record) is totally different in this respect

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August 13, 2019, 01:36:52 PM
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I think it wasn’t defeat is what we need to accept but just a losing streak.whe you talk about defeat that means it’s a total failure but in gambling we only need to control our self everytime we are not i a good luck,we need to just stop and go home ,make yourself calm and have a rest
Comeback when you feel like you have a good mood and confidence to play again.from this point we may win or atleast save some money in risking without winning consecutively

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August 13, 2019, 01:42:50 PM
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~ I accept all my failures in life including in gambling, and started over again i'm happy enough for this.

There is a big difference between accepting your failures in life and starting over again and doing the same in gambling. And the difference is there already when you are only planning to start your activity. It would be ridiculous to think in advance that you will fail with almost any of our daily life activities, but in gambling this kind of thinking is generally considered the most correct one.

It is not good for us because even though we are failing and repeating the same thing will easily harm us in many cases. Accepting defeat in business is good but in gambling not suggestable because we don't know whether we are going to win for the rest of life through gambling.
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August 13, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
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I think it wasn’t defeat is what we need to accept but just a losing streak.whe you talk about defeat that means it’s a total failure but in gambling we only need to control our self everytime we are not i a good luck,we need to just stop and go home ,make yourself calm and have a rest
Comeback when you feel like you have a good mood and confidence to play again.from this point we may win or atleast save some money in risking without winning consecutively
^ Definitely right, when the amount that you set had been lost then stop and come back in the next day when your mind gets a refresh. Because when you are playing longer in gamble it makes you out of focus and probably you can't control your emotion and makes your day failure. Accepting defeat is one of the best ways you can avoid the depress on your self. Nevertheless, that is being good at gambling if you wanted to earn a big profit, be contented of what you have got and accept what is possible happen and you are fine.
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August 13, 2019, 01:52:06 PM
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I think it wasn’t defeat is what we need to accept but just a losing streak.whe you talk about defeat that means it’s a total failure but in gambling we only need to control our self everytime we are not i a good luck,we need to just stop and go home ,make yourself calm and have a rest

That is what op means by the word defeat. He didn't say defeat in real life, he meant that if you want to win in gambling you must accept your mistake when you get greedy during winning streaks then learn from it.

Comeback when you feel like you have a good mood and confidence to play again.from this point we may win or atleast save some money in risking without winning consecutively

Your mood doesn't help you to win, it's all based on your luck. You only win if you are able to control your emotion and stop playing when you've gain some profit.
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August 13, 2019, 03:26:13 PM
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I think it wasn’t defeat is what we need to accept but just a losing streak.whe you talk about defeat that means it’s a total failure but in gambling we only need to control our self everytime we are not i a good luck,we need to just stop and go home ,make yourself calm and have a rest
Comeback when you feel like you have a good mood and confidence to play again.from this point we may win or atleast save some money in risking without winning consecutively
true, the point that needs to be considered for a gambler is how he regulates his emotions. so he knows when he has to stop and when he has to keep playing. don't force your luck too much at one time
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August 13, 2019, 08:18:59 PM
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I think it wasn’t defeat is what we need to accept but just a losing streak.whe you talk about defeat that means it’s a total failure but in gambling we only need to control our self everytime we are not i a good luck,we need to just stop and go home ,make yourself calm and have a rest

That is what op means by the word defeat. He didn't say defeat in real life, he meant that if you want to win in gambling you must accept your mistake when you get greedy during winning streaks then learn from it.

Comeback when you feel like you have a good mood and confidence to play again.from this point we may win or atleast save some money in risking without winning consecutively

Your mood doesn't help you to win, it's all based on your luck. You only win if you are able to control your emotion and stop playing when you've gain some profit.
There is no place for emotions in gambling we will have to remain stronger for winning and don’t expect about any result. Lose and win both depends on us if we only want to win we will have to struggle and if we once lose just count it as your experience and move on improve your skills and gamble again you will surely win.
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August 14, 2019, 11:36:16 AM
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It is not good for us because even though we are failing and repeating the same thing will easily harm us in many cases. Accepting defeat in business is good but in gambling not suggestable because we don't know whether we are going to win for the rest of life through gambling.

It is actually the vice versa, and the whole point of this thread is to prevent gamblers from chasing their losses. Yes, we don't (and we can't) know whether we are going to win, so we must accept our defeat before starting playing and thus save ourselves from the otherwise possible big loss. Preventing a big loss is equal to big win, hence the title of this thread.

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August 14, 2019, 01:10:38 PM
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It is not good for us because even though we are failing and repeating the same thing will easily harm us in many cases. Accepting defeat in business is good but in gambling not suggestable because we don't know whether we are going to win for the rest of life through gambling.

It is actually the vice versa, and the whole point of this thread is to prevent gamblers from chasing their losses. Yes, we don't (and we can't) know whether we are going to win, so we must accept our defeat before starting playing and thus save ourselves from the otherwise possible big loss. Preventing a big loss is equal to big win, hence the title of this thread.

I agree with you, if we stop ourself to play continuity in betting that meant we have saved ourself from coming loss in gambling. Actually it is normal thing for you and me and also good gamblers, but it is hard to accept defeat for addicted gamblers, they can't accept their defeat in gambling, they fight till the end and in the end they always in loss. But in my thinking, accept defeat, it is better than you keep losing your whole money.   









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August 14, 2019, 01:29:40 PM
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I think it wasn’t defeat is what we need to accept but just a losing streak.whe you talk about defeat that means it’s a total failure but in gambling we only need to control our self everytime we are not i a good luck,we need to just stop and go home ,make yourself calm and have a rest
Comeback when you feel like you have a good mood and confidence to play again.from this point we may win or atleast save some money in risking without winning consecutively
true, the point that needs to be considered for a gambler is how he regulates his emotions. so he knows when he has to stop and when he has to keep playing. don't force your luck too much at one time

Let's stick with practicing out brains not to follow our emotions.

I am always saying it, always repeating it, and will always say it for a lot of people to read. DON'T EVER FOLLOW YOUR EMOTIONS IN GAMBLING! JUST ENJOY THE GAME AND DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE SINCE THE TIME YOU EXPECT SOMETHING FROM IT, YOU ALREADY LOSE!.
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August 15, 2019, 08:30:34 AM
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It is not good for us because even though we are failing and repeating the same thing will easily harm us in many cases. Accepting defeat in business is good but in gambling not suggestable because we don't know whether we are going to win for the rest of life through gambling.

It is actually the vice versa, and the whole point of this thread is to prevent gamblers from chasing their losses. Yes, we don't (and we can't) know whether we are going to win, so we must accept our defeat before starting playing and thus save ourselves from the otherwise possible big loss. Preventing a big loss is equal to big win, hence the title of this thread.

I agree with you, if we stop ourself to play continuity in betting that meant we have saved ourself from coming loss in gambling. Actually it is normal thing for you and me and also good gamblers, but it is hard to accept defeat for addicted gamblers, they can't accept their defeat in gambling, they fight till the end and in the end they always in loss. But in my thinking, accept defeat, it is better than you keep losing your whole money.   

Truth to be told, people don't necessarily lose everything with chasing their losses. In some cases they recover what was lost, and in extremely rare cases they even win more than that which was lost previously. Gamblers are aware of such cases, and that's why it is so tempting for them to try to recover. But what they forget, is that with such actions they are breaking the main rule of gambling: No matter what, you should not risk more money than you can afford to lose in one day. If you care about those around you, you should never break this rule.

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August 15, 2019, 01:43:51 PM
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I think it wasn’t defeat is what we need to accept but just a losing streak.whe you talk about defeat that means it’s a total failure but in gambling we only need to control our self everytime we are not i a good luck,we need to just stop and go home ,make yourself calm and have a rest
Comeback when you feel like you have a good mood and confidence to play again.from this point we may win or atleast save some money in risking without winning consecutively
true, the point that needs to be considered for a gambler is how he regulates his emotions. so he knows when he has to stop and when he has to keep playing. don't force your luck too much at one time
Players who are emotional playing sometimes when they lose only some they panic start to increase their bet until they lose because they want to get back their capital or to win big. Players need to focus of what they are doing to make a good amount of bet. Gambling is risky so what ever happens everyone must accept that. Just keep aside your emotion in playing is the best.
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August 15, 2019, 04:11:17 PM
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Not only lost.
Another reason is if they got win several times. At that time their mind will blow up with happiness then take bigger bets because they sure they be the winner again.
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August 15, 2019, 04:48:31 PM
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I agree with you OP, the problem is that they don't accept defeat but at the same time there are those who win decent amount of money and in idea, don't plan to lose that money unlikely others who still gamble and then try to recover but some of them still have the same case. Once they won big, then they think let's play with some bucks, that won't damage me. Then they lose that bucks and say, let's play one roll and I'll recover that one buck and go. Finally they still lose everything or lost some money and then go away.

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August 15, 2019, 05:54:44 PM
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Before gambling, you must know what are the consequences and risks that you may face. Gambling is pure luck and if you are not lucky enough, you will lose so if that happens learn to accept it and move on. If you lose, don't do revenge gambling because it will give you more losses and will be more depressed if that happens Sad.
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On a contrary there’s also a small part of skills when talking about gambling,sometimes we can get small amount because of our skill the problem is our desire to win bigger and then is the point she luck will take over..many gamblers fails because of over desiring but also many of them wins with the same reason so there’s no point of having a revenge instead be aware that sometimes we will lose and sometimes we will will
That is greed because basically gambling is to make a profit, but if you can't accept defeat then revenge is a way that comes by itself because you can't control your emotions so you can't think wisely which in the end will only get you back to zero. So by being aware of the consequences and risks that must and will be faced later is an important thing to realize at the beginning, if you are not aware of this then we will fully lose and will not be able to accept defeat.

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August 15, 2019, 06:47:42 PM
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Not only lost.
Another reason is if they got win several times. At that time their mind will blow up with happiness then take bigger bets because they sure they be the winner again.
Hmmm, that is not a good idea. That has become a self-confidence to beat a big amount because you have a feeling that you will win. The fact is that you follow your emotion which leads you into possible lose. There is a good thing here if you know when to stop and cut your profit and your losses. And yes, accept your losses when the amount that you have set was all lost. Refresh your mind and come back in another day when your mind got refreshed.

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August 15, 2019, 07:06:06 PM
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I agree with you OP, the problem is that they don't accept defeat but at the same time there are those who win decent amount of money and in idea, don't plan to lose that money unlikely others who still gamble and then try to recover but some of them still have the same case. Once they won big, then they think let's play with some bucks, that won't damage me. Then they lose that bucks and say, let's play one roll and I'll recover that one buck and go. Finally they still lose everything or lost some money and then go away.
That is the reason why gambling industry still being profitable on many time periods,but still I can see that people say they are professional gamblers and living their life with the rewards from gambling alone.

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August 15, 2019, 11:42:56 PM
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I agree with you OP, the problem is that they don't accept defeat but at the same time there are those who win decent amount of money and in idea, don't plan to lose that money unlikely others who still gamble and then try to recover but some of them still have the same case. Once they won big, then they think let's play with some bucks, that won't damage me. Then they lose that bucks and say, let's play one roll and I'll recover that one buck and go. Finally they still lose everything or lost some money and then go away.
That is the reason why gambling industry still being profitable on many time periods,but still I can see that people say they are professional gamblers and living their life with the rewards from gambling alone.
Of course gambling industries is still a business so they would surely do all the things that would make them win over the gamblers. If you keep on playing even if you lose most of the time, you will surely go home with an empty pocket. That's the reality of a gambler who do not know how to accept defeat.
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August 16, 2019, 02:20:44 AM
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I agree with you OP, the problem is that they don't accept defeat but at the same time there are those who win decent amount of money and in idea, don't plan to lose that money unlikely others who still gamble and then try to recover but some of them still have the same case. Once they won big, then they think let's play with some bucks, that won't damage me. Then they lose that bucks and say, let's play one roll and I'll recover that one buck and go. Finally they still lose everything or lost some money and then go away.
That is the reason why gambling industry still being profitable on many time periods,but still I can see that people say they are professional gamblers and living their life with the rewards from gambling alone.
Of course gambling industries is still a business so they would surely do all the things that would make them win over the gamblers. If you keep on playing even if you lose most of the time, you will surely go home with an empty pocket. That's the reality of a gambler who do not know how to accept defeat.
Agreed, one who doesn't have the mind to accept defeat will go empty pocket. People should not be with a never give up attitude on gambling. It'll easily make us finish all our funds. With gambling get defeated means take a break, should not go behind the loss for a recovery. Very few lucky users get the opportunity to recover back the losses. Following them we should not stand a chance of recovery.

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August 16, 2019, 02:34:08 AM
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It is not good for us because even though we are failing and repeating the same thing will easily harm us in many cases. Accepting defeat in business is good but in gambling not suggestable because we don't know whether we are going to win for the rest of life through gambling.

It is actually the vice versa, and the whole point of this thread is to prevent gamblers from chasing their losses. Yes, we don't (and we can't) know whether we are going to win, so we must accept our defeat before starting playing and thus save ourselves from the otherwise possible big loss. Preventing a big loss is equal to big win, hence the title of this thread.

I agree with you, if we stop ourself to play continuity in betting that meant we have saved ourself from coming loss in gambling. Actually it is normal thing for you and me and also good gamblers, but it is hard to accept defeat for addicted gamblers, they can't accept their defeat in gambling, they fight till the end and in the end they always in loss. But in my thinking, accept defeat, it is better than you keep losing your whole money.   
Thats why accepting losses is important, because it prevents you from becoming an addict. people who sincerely accept certainly will not pursue profits to recover losses. it's not the same as in business dude, in gambling you have to be prepared with all the risks, so you don't panic when something bad happens and stay calm with all of that
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