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August 13, 2019, 08:48:29 AM |
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It is Time to really embrace and push for decentralization, even the government must make sure that all their system are fully decentralized from even the voting system so that everything can be transparent, but the issue is who would push for this decentralized system? Expect we keep pushing it in the little way it has been which take lot of years before it will can creep into government system But how are we going to do this in practice? As the saying goes, you can't solve a problem relying on those who created it. But given how corrupt the current political landscape is (in any country of your choice), you wouldn't really expect the government to embrace decentralization, for example, in the voting system in order to make it completely transparent and "provably fair", so to speak. Elections are an instrument of power and they won't let it go Further, those more powerful will always have more options available to them for making their financial transactions anonymous and keeping them that way. That's basically why they are against anonymity in general. It is only through someone more powerful who they were unlucky or unwise to lock horns with that their little financial shenanigans become known and publicized (read, it doesn't change anything in the bigger picture) |
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August 13, 2019, 10:57:37 AM |
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If a person sends a tip in bitcoin, he or she may not want the recipient to know how much money they have. Anonymity protects both sender and recipient from potential harm.
If a person inadvertently receives some bitcoin that can be traced to previous use in an illicit transaction, that bitcoin is potentially worth less than other bitcoin. Anonymity makes bitcoin more fungible so 1 BTC always equal one BTC.
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August 13, 2019, 12:45:01 PM |
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In Norway, little by little people are using el. banking to pay for goods and services. Soon they are going to be the first country to use only el. banking money. All is transparent, no anonymity. But is an all transparent ecosystem good? In sort of - yes, but would you like it when you know that someone has access to all your funds? And more, if all the money was controlled by one or few banks, doesn't that mean that they control the world? If you don't agree to something they would be able to simply disconnect you and that would be it, you would have nowhere to go. Crypto is the other story, but as you mentioned it lacks transparency, you can pay for illegal things more easily. I believe, that we need some anonymity. Not much, but just to keep some control in our own hands. Just in case.  |
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August 13, 2019, 01:33:29 PM |
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You might not need anonymity and that's a good thing. But the world is not same everywhere. In some oppressive countries, citizens are restricted from financial freedom.
In some countries, there's no freedom of speech or a freedom of fair jurisdiction. Here anonymity is the only way people can survive without killing their ideas.
Even is some so called free nations, Government uses surveillance to categorize people and push mass propaganda's. That's why anonymity is a tool to freedom.
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August 13, 2019, 01:49:11 PM |
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It is our right to remain anonymous in the public and it is also our protection, but what it makes a change now is that the government wants to be transparent. It has the advantage as it could stop those individuals who tried to do illegal activities and they couldn't hide anymore their real identity.
Though some of us have good intentions to keep anonymous, however, it is good to be fair and transparent.
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August 13, 2019, 02:12:31 PM |
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Transparency is already in the blockchain, we know where the coins originally, where it goes and where its being transacted to be converted into fiat, that's very transparent. But if transparency means names of the individuals connected to the blockchain wallets, that's pretty much an over kill besides we don't want names associated to our wallets because that's attracting criminals to come onto your doorstep.
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August 13, 2019, 02:14:00 PM |
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I don't like the idea about making all this information public, because what we can lose in that moment is our freedom. I don't like to be watched and recorded on any action i do, i don't like people knowing where i spend my money or how i get that money. And the problem about making that information public is big companies will use that info to sell you X product.
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August 13, 2019, 03:13:21 PM |
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I think anonymity is still very important, because there are many situations where anonymity can help us overcome power imbalances and exercise our rights.
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August 13, 2019, 03:56:54 PM |
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Speaking of the reason why we need anonymity in the crypto sphere. The cryptocurrency was created as an alternative payment system which will make people financial freedom and crypto cant achieve if the system is centralized. However, Trump ex-chief strategist also confirmed cryptocurrencies are the key to national liberation and it all because of anonymity.
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August 13, 2019, 04:14:44 PM |
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Anonymity sucks, anonymity gives everyone to much ropes to hang someone with it or to hang yourself on it.
I think the solution to a better world is if everything(yes everything, every fart) is on the blocckchain.
Currently, most peoples that live in big cities dont even know their neighbor so you dont even know who is living next to you.
How can this be good, anonymity allows for to much sick shit to happen.
I get the point that in ccountries like north korea or china it is better tos tay anoynmous cause the governemnt knows to much about 1, well how is this different in Europe or the USA?
We are beeing watched and surveilled since day 1 and it wont get better anyways.
Because of anonymity governements have to much controll over us becaue they can set us up with fake news etc.
And we have all learned by know that banning doesnt make things any better, look at the war on Drugs, prohibition and even to think you an outlaw guns is more than ridiculous.
So since everything is known about us by big companys that use the information to play us and take us for a ride everday with fake news articles etc, wh not fight for having all of our data public.
On 1 hand we all humans, some are prettier some are more ugly but we all humans we all shit, piss and act like assholes or bitches, everyone of us.
If you dont do anything weird or crazy that you dont want people to know about you dont fuckign do it.
And if you a sick motherfucker we all have the right to know so we can avoid you and you can get the help you need to straighten your ass out.
All that hiding and havign secrets and stuff is only beacuse of the elite- we cant trust the elite and the biggest beneficary of anonymity is not the small guy- its government, cause usually the governemtn develops the best tools for anonymity etc so if they are in posession of these techniques of course tehy use it against us.
I do beleive that if everythign si run decentralized and open for everyone to see, we can know exactly about our governement and we know exactly were things go wrong insteed know we have to trust fake news and lieing presidents taht they tell us the truth- which they most likely dont do anyways but if everything is open and transparent not even the presidents can lie anymore.
I have the feelng that controlled opposition is pshing for more anonymity etc. and i think its wrong-
Right now there are millions of images of how people kill dogs on the internet- and none forces you to watch it, howver you cant stop it either so the best thing is ignore it.
The problem is, with more anonymity the more people will torture dogs or kids or things like that and will have a better chance to spread this (to my moral standard: sicck shit), but if we know everythign about everyone i think people wont fuck on kids or torture animals that much anymore.
The more we people become transparent the less chance for the governemtn to controll us- transparency will end governements, olicitcs and religion
i really don't agree with you at all, everyone deserve to have some privacy at some point in life, not everything should be thrown open in the public for everybody to see, not because of the elite we have secret, the non-elite also wants private life away from the prying eyes of the public, i bet you won't have any problem with a camera hanging around you in your home, office and everywhere, your wanting to have some privacy has nothing to do with any government intentions good or bad. |
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September 23, 2019, 12:22:19 PM |
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Anonymity sucks, anonymity gives everyone to much ropes to hang someone with it or to hang yourself on it.
I think the solution to a better world is if everything(yes everything, every fart) is on the blocckchain.
Currently, most peoples that live in big cities dont even know their neighbor so you dont even know who is living next to you.
How can this be good, anonymity allows for to much sick shit to happen.
I get the point that in ccountries like north korea or china it is better tos tay anoynmous cause the governemnt knows to much about 1, well how is this different in Europe or the USA?
We are beeing watched and surveilled since day 1 and it wont get better anyways.
Because of anonymity governements have to much controll over us becaue they can set us up with fake news etc.
And we have all learned by know that banning doesnt make things any better, look at the war on Drugs, prohibition and even to think you an outlaw guns is more than ridiculous.
So since everything is known about us by big companys that use the information to play us and take us for a ride everday with fake news articles etc, wh not fight for having all of our data public.
On 1 hand we all humans, some are prettier some are more ugly but we all humans we all shit, piss and act like assholes or bitches, everyone of us.
If you dont do anything weird or crazy that you dont want people to know about you dont fuckign do it.
And if you a sick motherfucker we all have the right to know so we can avoid you and you can get the help you need to straighten your ass out.
All that hiding and havign secrets and stuff is only beacuse of the elite- we cant trust the elite and the biggest beneficary of anonymity is not the small guy- its government, cause usually the governemtn develops the best tools for anonymity etc so if they are in posession of these techniques of course tehy use it against us.
I do beleive that if everythign si run decentralized and open for everyone to see, we can know exactly about our governement and we know exactly were things go wrong insteed know we have to trust fake news and lieing presidents taht they tell us the truth- which they most likely dont do anyways but if everything is open and transparent not even the presidents can lie anymore.
I have the feelng that controlled opposition is pshing for more anonymity etc. and i think its wrong-
Right now there are millions of images of how people kill dogs on the internet- and none forces you to watch it, howver you cant stop it either so the best thing is ignore it.
The problem is, with more anonymity the more people will torture dogs or kids or things like that and will have a better chance to spread this (to my moral standard: sicck shit), but if we know everythign about everyone i think people wont fuck on kids or torture animals that much anymore.
The more we people become transparent the less chance for the governemtn to controll us- transparency will end governements, olicitcs and religion
Gosh, your comparison of freedom with a rope reminded me of Supernatural) One of the main characters said that "Freedom is a length of rope. God wants you to hang yourself with it.” And from such point of view, I should agree, because of anonymity people do certain things and get away with it. But what we all expect from blockchain technologies is that they will bring us transparency. And it, in turn, should bring order in the countries and honesty |
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September 23, 2019, 01:25:55 PM |
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All we need is transparency I believe. Because for example we don't know exactly what is going on with banking system. If we use a system like cryptocurrencies have, everything will be transparent and governments won't be able to do whatever they want.
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September 23, 2019, 01:40:31 PM |
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Hold on!! hold on!! I feel it the other way there should be anonymity. Why the hell should someone know how much funds you have earned and hold. You mentioned neighbours dont know each other
Coming to this point. If your are rich enough to through parties or if you do not mind spending on others then whole world we take out time to know you or get in touch with you or be a friend of yours. This shows that people are only interest in money and not in you. This technology is help you keep that greed causing data anonymous. Rest of the data is open to all on blockchain. |
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September 23, 2019, 02:34:09 PM |
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All we need is transparency I believe. Because for example we don't know exactly what is going on with banking system. If we use a system like cryptocurrencies have, everything will be transparent and governments won't be able to do whatever they want.
It seems that all the transactions are traceable but how about the one doing this, have we know him/her? We can still remain hidden. Though there is no need to become anonymous but like as one feature of crypto, it still can be. That is why the government look into crypto suspicious and unreliable thing that can't be trusted. There is no wrong with that but somehow some people are using this "anonymity" to make illegalities that could make authorities to hold and banned crypto. |
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September 24, 2019, 01:41:14 PM |
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About 80% of people in the crypto ecosystem believe that anonymity is the best option for financial transactions on a decentralized system due to the fact that anyone can easily monitor and track every transactions made on the network. But me personally, I don't see anything useful with anonymity. I don't really think the crypto space needs it.
I think so, because honestly I myself first joined crypto because I was interested in the anonymous innovations brought about. I often gamble, and gambling is something that is prohibited in my country, even the law states give prison sentence for the players. Crypto anonymity is very good for my undercover transactions, so crypto anonymity is very important to me thats one of the reason why people need to become anonymous and not just because they wanted to do shady deals but unlike you , i first joined crypto not because of its anon feature but i find it cool to have a digital currency that are less stricter and less hassel than the exiting digital payment methods . you did mention that gambling is restricted ? but you can still use some censorship circumvention tools so that you are not trackable aside from using a crypto . |
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September 24, 2019, 04:13:31 PM |
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Anonymity is not a solution for sure, rather we need transparency!! A see a lot of bitcoin maximalists people raising their voice for anonymity to sideline the banking and governance route! But that very idea will land bitcoin in big trouble. A majority of the nations are already skeptical about cryptocurrencies in general only because of its anonymous nature! More push for anonymity will harm cryptos beyond measures!
Rather, it's always better to held our heads high with pride to show we have nothing illegal. That change in outlook is needed for us to survive and thrive amidst all surveillance and regulatory concerns.
Respect and acceptance is what we need because these can gradually make the situation better for us. Revolution can stay in our hearts.
I agree with this. The problem is that some of us are abusing this anonymity when they are using cryptocurrency, that is why the Government are skeptical about crypto, which we can't blame them if they are taking the precautions. Also because of news that a lot of people are using cryptocurrencies to scam other people, they also think that it is no good to be implemented as a way of paying stuffs online or not online. We need transparency and discipline to ourselves, for cryptocurrency to be adopted by the whole population around the globe, let's stop being selfish and greedy. |
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September 24, 2019, 04:27:26 PM |
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We all have different opinions regarding things but for me,having both anonymity and transparency could work better than pushing only one. It's better to have perfect balance. Too much anonymity can do something bad, same with having too much transparency. How can you say that the more we become transparent, the lesser the government can control us? Where in fact, being too transparent may also lead to be controlled by others. Imagine, they know all of your information because you're too transparent.
What I'm trying to say is that, we don't only need transparency but also anonymity, with the proper use of the two.
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September 24, 2019, 05:04:03 PM |
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Anonymity sucks, anonymity gives everyone to much ropes to hang someone with it or to hang yourself on it.
I think the solution to a better world is if everything(yes everything, every fart) is on the blocckchain.
Currently, most peoples that live in big cities dont even know their neighbor so you dont even know who is living next to you.
How can this be good, anonymity allows for to much sick shit to happen.
I get the point that in ccountries like north korea or china it is better tos tay anoynmous cause the governemnt knows to much about 1, well how is this different in Europe or the USA?
We are beeing watched and surveilled since day 1 and it wont get better anyways.
Because of anonymity governements have to much controll over us becaue they can set us up with fake news etc.
And we have all learned by know that banning doesnt make things any better, look at the war on Drugs, prohibition and even to think you an outlaw guns is more than ridiculous.
So since everything is known about us by big companys that use the information to play us and take us for a ride everday with fake news articles etc, wh not fight for having all of our data public.
On 1 hand we all humans, some are prettier some are more ugly but we all humans we all shit, piss and act like assholes or bitches, everyone of us.
If you dont do anything weird or crazy that you dont want people to know about you dont fuckign do it.
And if you a sick motherfucker we all have the right to know so we can avoid you and you can get the help you need to straighten your ass out.
All that hiding and havign secrets and stuff is only beacuse of the elite- we cant trust the elite and the biggest beneficary of anonymity is not the small guy- its government, cause usually the governemtn develops the best tools for anonymity etc so if they are in posession of these techniques of course tehy use it against us.
I do beleive that if everythign si run decentralized and open for everyone to see, we can know exactly about our governement and we know exactly were things go wrong insteed know we have to trust fake news and lieing presidents taht they tell us the truth- which they most likely dont do anyways but if everything is open and transparent not even the presidents can lie anymore.
I have the feelng that controlled opposition is pshing for more anonymity etc. and i think its wrong-
Right now there are millions of images of how people kill dogs on the internet- and none forces you to watch it, howver you cant stop it either so the best thing is ignore it.
The problem is, with more anonymity the more people will torture dogs or kids or things like that and will have a better chance to spread this (to my moral standard: sicck shit), but if we know everythign about everyone i think people wont fuck on kids or torture animals that much anymore.
The more we people become transparent the less chance for the governemtn to controll us- transparency will end governements, olicitcs and religion
I really love anonymity and I think that it should be combined with KYC mechanisms in order to work flawlessly. We need transparency in the network. There are so many protocols which can provide us KYC features and encrypted inside the blockchain, thus we are anonymous and transparent at the same time. |
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September 24, 2019, 05:59:45 PM |
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You don't want anonymity, publicize everything about yourself, but don't use force to impose your whims and beliefs in the rest of us.
An animal lives in a state of perpetual transparency, a human does not if the human wants to be free. Just because you don't care about your liberty, don't sell the rest of us down the river to assuage your conscience.
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September 24, 2019, 06:02:51 PM |
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Different strokes for different folks mate, why some hate anonymity other's want it, and I am among those who love having their privacy, I think we all need some level of privacy, can't just throw all you personal information to the open for everyone to see, I will always have certain info private if I can,
You can always get to know people without letting too much of your personal stuff out, anonymous is good, I don't see why I should be watch 24hrs like I did something wrong, as a human I deserve to have my privacy period.
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