Why do we need anonymity?

[bryant.coleman]

This was the most disgusting thread I ever read within Bitcointalk. All of us value our anonymity dearly. I don't know about the OP, but I would never allow the government or the authorities to peep in to my private life. Well.. I guess that's why we call it "private life". Our hobbies... interests... and even fetishes...  they are not for public entertainment.

But nowadays, there is no respect for individual privacy. In the name of surveillance, the government agencies routinely spy on our communications (phone calls, web chats.etc) and even on our internet history. And even worse, sometimes the hackers and the criminals get hold of these records and they use them to blackmail the individuals.

[deisik]

Anonymity isn't anything good, especially not in the cryptocurrency world. To be honest, I feel definitely safer when I use a cryptocurrency exchange with mandatory registration and verification. It's all about users' safety. Now I use CoinDeal and I'm glad that every user need to be fully verified to trade. It makes me calm. So, if we were anonymous everywhere on the internet, it would be a huge risk of scams etc

That really sounds like a piece of sarcasm to me

Mandatory registration and verification are not in the least a guarantee against scams (if that was your point). So your feeling of safety is false and not based on anything real. And as others already said, the personal information you provide at registration can be stolen or just sold to interested parties, whatever those might be. Do you still feel how calm that makes you?

[DaftAjax]

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That is one big naivety right there my friend.

This is a slap question, if anonymity does not exist in the first place, do you think the society, government, culture, people, etc. existence will be the same as now?

Yes, the government should be transparent, but to some extent. Their "operations" are supposed to be anonymous. Oh, I know you'll reply: "what about the corruption of politicians?". That's why I said, "to some extent". Secrecy isn't a bad thing, it makes ppl feel "secured". Imagine an alien space ship crashed landed to Earth and the so-called government take notice and take action of this, and immediately say, "Oh hey our beloved ppl, we are to announce that an alien ship had crashed landed into our world, and we are currently investigating now". Imagine what will the ppl feel, think, say about that. Prolly majority or half of the ppl will panic and will think about "alien invasion". And to make these ppl calm and feel secure, they will keep it "confidential".

Sure anonymity will prolly solve "terrorism"; lessens/exterminate crimes but the thing is, just because of certain countries like China and North Korea merely abolishes anonymity, all countries should implement it as well.

Think about it this way, if everything is transparent, then why do we need banks, schools, clearance, security, heck why do we even need the government if everyone knows EVERY single one.

[whyrqa]

Anonymity isn't anything good, especially not in the cryptocurrency world. To be honest, I feel definitely safer when I use a cryptocurrency exchange with mandatory registration and verification. It's all about users' safety. Now I use CoinDeal and I'm glad that every user need to be fully verified to trade. It makes me calm. So, if we were anonymous everywhere on the internet, it would be a huge risk of scams etc

That really sounds like a piece of sarcasm to me

Mandatory registration and verification are not in the least a guarantee against scams (if that was your point). So your feeling of safety is false and not based on anything real. And as others already said, the personal information you provide at registration can be stolen or just sold to interested parties, whatever those might be. Do you still feel how that makes you calm?

Maybe I misunderstood the statements of a person, but it seemed to me that we are talking about the possibilities of protecting the right to property, if you can prove that you own not only some account on the exchange, but also a wallet with cryptocurrency, where it was verified and provided personal data.  If you take for example the My Ether Wallet wallet, who is the owner, who actually has a password, a file key or a secret key, but it is almost impossible to determine the original owner.  And if the account or wallet is registered by email, and personal data is recorded, then by means of a trial you can prove not only that you are the owner, but also protect your rights on other issues.

[diazepam666]

Anonymity isn't anything good, especially not in the cryptocurrency world. To be honest, I feel definitely safer when I use a cryptocurrency exchange with mandatory registration and verification. It's all about users' safety. Now I use CoinDeal and I'm glad that every user need to be fully verified to trade. It makes me calm. So, if we were anonymous everywhere on the internet, it would be a huge risk of scams etc.

If you feel the need safety that you can't provide for yourself, just stick with fiat and credit cards.  Please don't import the training wheels from there into the Tour de France, it only slows those athletes down.

Haha well said, crypto wallets are actually a so called personal banking with our own security. People who have the knowledge to use the wallet can be use it with out any interuption of bank or payment providers.
Anonymity is word drive every people equally in the crypto market, so better these kind of thread should be avoided by people to stop the confusion.

[nicecrypto]

Anonymity isn't anything good, especially not in the cryptocurrency world. To be honest, I feel definitely safer when I use a cryptocurrency exchange with mandatory registration and verification. It's all about users' safety. Now I use CoinDeal and I'm glad that every user need to be fully verified to trade. It makes me calm. So, if we were anonymous everywhere on the internet, it would be a huge risk of scams etc.

Do you know if that coindeal exchange you are using the team behind it are fully vetted as well? Why the exchange are very kin on kyc who will verify the exchange as secured enough to guarantee safety of my funds? i take it you won't like to trade in a completely decentralized exchange since there is no kyc submission in such exchange,
i don't see the point of presenting my personal information to total strangers, that is why it is called personal not public information.

[gunungkembar]

I think this is because having an anonymity method will make transaction security safer and more comfortable, This anonymous method can be a better transaction method so many people who will use this method for business.

[deisik]

Anonymity isn't anything good, especially not in the cryptocurrency world. To be honest, I feel definitely safer when I use a cryptocurrency exchange with mandatory registration and verification. It's all about users' safety. Now I use CoinDeal and I'm glad that every user need to be fully verified to trade. It makes me calm. So, if we were anonymous everywhere on the internet, it would be a huge risk of scams etc

That really sounds like a piece of sarcasm to me

Mandatory registration and verification are not in the least a guarantee against scams (if that was your point). So your feeling of safety is false and not based on anything real. And as others already said, the personal information you provide at registration can be stolen or just sold to interested parties, whatever those might be. Do you still feel how that makes you calm?

Maybe I misunderstood the statements of a person, but it seemed to me that we are talking about the possibilities of protecting the right to property, if you can prove that you own not only some account on the exchange, but also a wallet with cryptocurrency, where it was verified and provided personal data.  If you take for example the My Ether Wallet wallet, who is the owner, who actually has a password, a file key or a secret key, but it is almost impossible to determine the original owner.  And if the account or wallet is registered by email, and personal data is recorded, then by means of a trial you can prove not only that you are the owner, but also protect your rights on other issues

Yes, it may work, in theory

But in practice I have yet to see even a single case where it helped to get the money from your balance back even if you could actually prove the ownership. How many exchanges which required verification had scammed or been hacked in the past few years? Did this verification helped to retrieve the stolen coins, apart from personal info being stolen too? We are living in the real world, worts and all, not some KYC lalaland

[anoufal]

Anonymity is very important in today's world and I hope we will be able to keep it in the future

[DaftAjax]

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Yes, it may work, in theory

But in practice I have yet to see even a single case where it helped to get the money from your balance back even if you could actually prove the ownership. How many exchanges which required verification had scammed or been hacked in the past few years? Did this verification helped to retrieve the stolen coins, apart from personal info being stolen too? We are living in the real world, worts and all, not some KYC lalaland

I totally agree.

I don't know what these people are trying to prove to be honest. I'm starting to think that they're just a bunch of "idealists". Not be rude but, I can really feel the naivety of these people. It's a blockchain for god sake. These stolen coins and personal info that is being used by other people for their personal gains is the internet in a nutshell. If these people are thinking the internet is safe then they have to re-evaluate themselves, there's always a risk, you have to always expect it.

These kinds of incidents are unavoidable, that is why you also have to always have a plan B.