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August 16, 2019, 11:08:04 AM
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Why Saudi Arabia? Is Anthony Joshua scared to fight Andy Ruiz again in America? I reckon the Staples Center in Los Angeles would be the best place for the rematch. It has plenty of Mexicans heheheheeh.
This has nothing to do with fear or scared but the decision if the host ( sponsor's), I think their decision was a good one for the rematch as this will bring the best out of the two boxers when they meet for the fight. Maybe Andy will do what he knows how to do to prove himself worthy of the title.

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August 16, 2019, 12:01:49 PM
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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

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August 16, 2019, 01:16:19 PM
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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.
I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
 I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.
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August 16, 2019, 03:02:06 PM
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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

You think that after the victory Ruiz will just relax, train less and eat his favourite snickers? Doubt that. He will also do hard training, to defend his belt.

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August 16, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
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Ruiz didn't win anything. He is nowhere a match to Anthony Joshua. That match was handed over to him and only the gambling companies can explain what happened. If you know, you know.

It seems that you didnt even see that match. Doubt that Joshua ate those punches on purpose. Besides, he is a professional athlete and he doesnt need that lose in his boxing record.

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August 16, 2019, 05:44:38 PM
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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.
I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
 I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.

These kind of conspiracy theories are always created after a champion is defeated, the truth is that everyone is worse over time, you will eventually lose, it happens to everyone, mike tyson, ali, etc. I don't see why you think Joshua will win this time, he got rekt last time and there is no reason to think he wont be rekt this time too.

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August 16, 2019, 06:33:55 PM
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These kind of conspiracy theories are always created after a champion is defeated, the truth is that everyone is worse over time, you will eventually lose, it happens to everyone, mike tyson, ali, etc. I don't see why you think Joshua will win this time, he got rekt last time and there is no reason to think he wont be rekt this time too.

We can't be too sure bro. He might take back the title of being the best.
The guy is a long time champion and champions like that  don't like being replaced.
On the other hand, Andy who couldn't believe he would defeat Joshua will still want to maintain the new title. Let's hope he don't have the doubt of winning before the game, that alone is enough to make him lose.
I like the two players though, just excited to see what the result will be.
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August 16, 2019, 08:40:27 PM
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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.
I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
 I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.
This has been my explanation to my friends but they hadden their ears to my words. In this rematch many gambler will loss to this game because they will like to bet on Andy and at the end Joshua will win the game on the rematch. I seriously lost to the last game and will take the advantage this time to win back my lose.

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August 16, 2019, 09:32:29 PM
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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.
I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
 I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.
This has been my explanation to my friends but they hadden their ears to my words. In this rematch many gambler will loss to this game because they will like to bet on Andy and at the end Joshua will win the game on the rematch. I seriously lost to the last game and will take the advantage this time to win back my lose.
We can't still be sure of that, Andy proved it in their first fight and it for sure he could possibly make it and hold his breath. What actually Joshua must have to build extra strength in order to beat Ruiz, otherwise, it still is ended of losing this fight again.

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August 17, 2019, 03:17:51 AM
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Why Saudi Arabia? Is Anthony Joshua scared to fight Andy Ruiz again in America? I reckon the Staples Center in Los Angeles would be the best place for the rematch. It has plenty of Mexicans heheheheeh.

It's the promoter who dictate where the fight is held and when both fighters agree, things happened and it's a done deal.
Why not Saudi Arabia? Boxing is not only for Americans and Mexicans, there's a lot of fan based all over the whole, and this fight being held in Saudi Arabia is good in promoting Boxing globally.

You can also read this - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/sport/joshua-ruiz-boxing-saudi-arabia-hearn-spt-intl/index.html

However, it is also open to negotiation, which also opens this to politics. Anthony Joshua wanted the fight to be in London, Andy Ruiz wants it in America. I have not read everything yet, but it appears that the promoter wanted a neutral location to make them sign the deal.

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August 17, 2019, 03:48:29 AM
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Why Saudi Arabia? Is Anthony Joshua scared to fight Andy Ruiz again in America? I reckon the Staples Center in Los Angeles would be the best place for the rematch. It has plenty of Mexicans heheheheeh.

It's the promoter who dictate where the fight is held and when both fighters agree, things happened and it's a done deal.
Why not Saudi Arabia? Boxing is not only for Americans and Mexicans, there's a lot of fan based all over the whole, and this fight being held in Saudi Arabia is good in promoting Boxing globally.

You can also read this - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/sport/joshua-ruiz-boxing-saudi-arabia-hearn-spt-intl/index.html

However, it is also open to negotiation, which also opens this to politics. Anthony Joshua wanted the fight to be in London, Andy Ruiz wants it in America. I have not read everything yet, but it appears that the promoter wanted a neutral location to make them sign the deal.
It will be good if the two fighters could come to a conclusion and change the venue of the rematch since the contract is yet to be signed.
@Viscore, promoting boxing globally will be nice but if you have read about what was said to have happened to the tennis star Rafael Nadal you'll also want the venue to be change.

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August 17, 2019, 07:58:15 AM
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I will make my prediction once the fight will be near, it gives some insights that both fighters will be preparing for it and have enough time to make it perfectly shaped.

Same here. I don't see some odds yet on the internet. Just the date (December 7) and place (Saudi Arabia). Others' opinions and insights, especially from the sports analysts, will help me decide on whom to place my bet. This may be a rematch but this will be different from their first square-off simply because both fighters will either change or improve their perfomance so that the odds will be on their favor.

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August 17, 2019, 09:22:08 AM
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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.
I don't expect that early though, the champ here has a big heart and he will not just easily back down.
It's a more confident Ruiz facing Joshua in this fight as he is the depending champion, he will surely make it hard for Joshua in case Joshua will be able to redeem himself here, but let's just watch, if there's a betting odds for that prediction, might as well put some bet on it. 

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August 17, 2019, 09:32:04 AM
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Eddie Hearn warns Andy Ruiz Jr to honour Saudi venue for Joshua fight

Eddie Hearn has warned Andy Ruiz Jr he must honour the contract for his rematch with Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia after the Mexican-American insisted the bout would take place in the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/aug/14/eddie-hearn-andy-ruiz-anthony-joshua-rematch-saudi-warns
Ruiz dont want no part of a Saudi Arabia rematch he says bring it back to America



There could be legal battle here if Andy Ruiz doesn't want to go to Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, maybe he just wanted more money, after all he is the champion here. But make no mistake about it, Anthony Joshua here is still the A-side so if I'm Andy Ruiz he should be better moving his ass and fight in Saudi and prove that he fight is no fluke.

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August 17, 2019, 08:54:57 PM
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I think that Joshua would fight hard to redeem himself back again. The African wouldn't not give up easily. He has the strength and resilient to go all out.
That's expected because the first fight was an upset, he was the favorite and this time he will surely still be the favorite.
Can't wait to see the odds of the fight, but I think at this early it's still not available yet, but if you guys see some bookies offering an early odds for this fight, please share in this thread, I'll check it out.

I bet Ruiz will still win this match and I see him as a heavier hitter than Joshua. I think Joshua should avoid being hit by Ruiz but I doubt he can do that since they are both slow. They would all come down to power and stamina when the match drag down the wire.
if Ruiz manages to hit with precision and hard in the first two rounds he will win the match easily...
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August 17, 2019, 10:40:09 PM
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Eddie Hearn warns Andy Ruiz Jr to honour Saudi venue for Joshua fight

Eddie Hearn has warned Andy Ruiz Jr he must honour the contract for his rematch with Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia after the Mexican-American insisted the bout would take place in the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/aug/14/eddie-hearn-andy-ruiz-anthony-joshua-rematch-saudi-warns
Ruiz dont want no part of a Saudi Arabia rematch he says bring it back to America



There could be legal battle here if Andy Ruiz doesn't want to go to Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, maybe he just wanted more money, after all he is the champion here. But make no mistake about it, Anthony Joshua here is still the A-side so if I'm Andy Ruiz he should be better moving his ass and fight in Saudi and prove that he fight is no fluke.

Ruiz might be hyping the fight so that he is showing that kind of attitude. Yes, maybe he just wanted more money being offered to him because he is the champion. But he needs to realized that he sign a contract that a rematch would happen. He might not agree with the venue, but he doesn't want to go to a legal battle here because in the end it will just damage his career and reputation. He is acting like a diva now, I think upsetting Joshua and winning the belt gets into his mind and it is not a healthy sign.

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August 17, 2019, 11:00:37 PM
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Eddie Hearn warns Andy Ruiz Jr to honour Saudi venue for Joshua fight

Eddie Hearn has warned Andy Ruiz Jr he must honour the contract for his rematch with Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia after the Mexican-American insisted the bout would take place in the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/aug/14/eddie-hearn-andy-ruiz-anthony-joshua-rematch-saudi-warns
Ruiz dont want no part of a Saudi Arabia rematch he says bring it back to America



There could be legal battle here if Andy Ruiz doesn't want to go to Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, maybe he just wanted more money, after all he is the champion here. But make no mistake about it, Anthony Joshua here is still the A-side so if I'm Andy Ruiz he should be better moving his ass and fight in Saudi and prove that he fight is no fluke.

Ruiz might be hyping the fight so that he is showing that kind of attitude. Yes, maybe he just wanted more money being offered to him because he is the champion. But he needs to realized that he sign a contract that a rematch would happen. He might not agree with the venue, but he doesn't want to go to a legal battle here because in the end it will just damage his career and reputation. He is acting like a diva now, I think upsetting Joshua and winning the belt gets into his mind and it is not a healthy sign.

I agree that Ruiz is hyping the fight, and will just sign the contract to fight Anthony Joshua in Saudi. Eddie Hearn is also a powerful man in boxing, so Ruiz needs to cooperate otherwise his career can be ruin by these powerful boxing managers in the industry.

https://www.boxingscene.com/andy-ruiz-on-rematch-not-everything-correct-contract--141777

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August 18, 2019, 12:50:27 AM
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This rematch is just a formality that the time of Andy Ruiz holding the belt is over. I can't see a chance that he would win the rematch as Joshua will be more careful this time and he need not to slug it out with Ruiz, just score points and he will win the fight.

It is early to say those things. We can't really say if Joshua will gonna win this time to the rematch or Ruiz will remain to be the champion. But I have a doubt with Ruiz attitude about this, he signed the contract but he has so many demands like this,

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IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Andy Ruiz is insisting that he's not going to travel over to Saudi Arabia to face Anthony Joshua in a rematch, which at the moment is scheduled for December 7.

They are still negotiating about the place and other concerns about the contract as well. Anyhow, it would be an interesting rematch fight between the two. Not gonna miss this for sure.

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August 18, 2019, 12:54:45 AM
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Eddie Hearn warns Andy Ruiz Jr to honour Saudi venue for Joshua fight

Eddie Hearn has warned Andy Ruiz Jr he must honour the contract for his rematch with Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia after the Mexican-American insisted the bout would take place in the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/aug/14/eddie-hearn-andy-ruiz-anthony-joshua-rematch-saudi-warns
Ruiz dont want no part of a Saudi Arabia rematch he says bring it back to America



There could be legal battle here if Andy Ruiz doesn't want to go to Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, maybe he just wanted more money, after all he is the champion here. But make no mistake about it, Anthony Joshua here is still the A-side so if I'm Andy Ruiz he should be better moving his ass and fight in Saudi and prove that he fight is no fluke.

Ruiz might be hyping the fight so that he is showing that kind of attitude. Yes, maybe he just wanted more money being offered to him because he is the champion. But he needs to realized that he sign a contract that a rematch would happen. He might not agree with the venue, but he doesn't want to go to a legal battle here because in the end it will just damage his career and reputation. He is acting like a diva now, I think upsetting Joshua and winning the belt gets into his mind and it is not a healthy sign.

I agree that Ruiz is hyping the fight, and will just sign the contract to fight Anthony Joshua in Saudi. Eddie Hearn is also a powerful man in boxing, so Ruiz needs to cooperate otherwise his career can be ruin by these powerful boxing managers in the industry.

https://www.boxingscene.com/andy-ruiz-on-rematch-not-everything-correct-contract--141777
It's needed to happened as it was been signed, it can be just a drama to hyped things out and attract more viewers as there's not much noise with this coming rematch so fighters needs to be more on the side of hyping it up to make more gamblers and fans to call this things out, Ruiz is a professional so he knows what it takes if he wouldn't act as one.
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August 18, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
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Looks like Ruiz is playing hard to get in terms of the venue, I doubt his rematch clause stated he needs to fight at any particular venue, so he's obviously going to try and stand his ground and get the rematch held in the states where he will have the home advantage.

However, as the champion I would say that he is well within his rights to play the A side, and Hearn should budge to him if necessary and stage the fight in Madison Square Gardens again. I don't think the fight will go the distance to see any bias on the scorecards, but Joshua has a wrong that needs to be made right in the place it first occurred.
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