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November 03, 2019, 10:39:07 PM
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Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.
There is a lot of stakes for Anthony Joshua to win the fight and i hope he will be prepared for this one if not his golden days of making easy money will be over, he was selling record tickets for all of his fights but the loss has dented his plans and hence this rematch is a must win for Anthony Joshua and if he losses this one then his selling power will be a big issue.

Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.

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November 03, 2019, 10:54:48 PM
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Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.

Ruiz will take all the sponsors, its alright for him to assume them, lol.

As much as Joshua wants to win this rematch, the other side are already enjoying being a champ so it will be a great fight as Ruiz will not juts easily give the belt back, this is also a great opportunity which could change his life if he can prove beating Joshua twice, with that said, I am supporting Ruiz here.

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November 04, 2019, 07:09:18 AM
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Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.

Ruiz will take all the sponsors, its alright for him to assume them, lol.

As much as Joshua wants to win this rematch, the other side are already enjoying being a champ so it will be a great fight as Ruiz will not juts easily give the belt back, this is also a great opportunity which could change his life if he can prove beating Joshua twice, with that said, I am supporting Ruiz here.

I just saw the odds and it looks like Ruiz Jr is still the underdog just like the last fight. I would say that this will be an exciting match and we don't know who will win. I already bet for Ruiz Jr and hoping he will defend the belt.

And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina. But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.


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And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina.

He just lost once against Ruiz, I think Joshua would not like that, he will still be more confident that he has all the skills needed to be champ again.
Both fighters are doing their best in the training for this fight and I am pretty sure because of that, they will be able to give a good fight.

But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.

We will see who's gonna dominate but I would always love to place my bet on the underdog all day, I like him staying the way he is and he is confident to win the fight again, actually I don't need to listen to his words, his action is enough for me to believe that he will again knock joshua.

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November 04, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
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Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.

Ruiz will take all the sponsors, its alright for him to assume them, lol.

As much as Joshua wants to win this rematch, the other side are already enjoying being a champ so it will be a great fight as Ruiz will not juts easily give the belt back, this is also a great opportunity which could change his life if he can prove beating Joshua twice, with that said, I am supporting Ruiz here.

I just saw the odds and it looks like Ruiz Jr is still the underdog just like the last fight. I would say that this will be an exciting match and we don't know who will win. I already bet for Ruiz Jr and hoping he will defend the belt.

And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina. But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.
I also check the odds now either and it was still in favor of Anthony but Ruiz don't want to give the belt back as Ziskinberg said because hes doing everything possible, training hard these days and he have loose so much weight lately.
Meanwhile, you can't say Anthony lack stamina because he didn't study Ruiz fight before the match and Ruiz wasn't the person he ought to fight in the first place.

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November 04, 2019, 11:41:33 PM
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And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina.

He just lost once against Ruiz, I think Joshua would not like that, he will still be more confident that he has all the skills needed to be champ again.
Both fighters are doing their best in the training for this fight and I am pretty sure because of that, they will be able to give a good fight.

But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.

We will see who's gonna dominate but I would always love to place my bet on the underdog all day, I like him staying the way he is and he is confident to win the fight again, actually I don't need to listen to his words, his action is enough for me to believe that he will again knock joshua.

Right, who wouldn't love to put on the underdog here? I mean Ruiz already prove that in their previous fight and he can replicate it. And definitely everyone is excited to see this rematch, It's gonna be a game changing fight for this two, more so though on Anthony Joshua, pressure still on him and not on Andy Ruiz. If Ruiz losses this one, I think he can live with that and continue to fight. But for Joshua, it will be devastating.

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November 05, 2019, 01:14:48 PM
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And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina.

He just lost once against Ruiz, I think Joshua would not like that, he will still be more confident that he has all the skills needed to be champ again.
Both fighters are doing their best in the training for this fight and I am pretty sure because of that, they will be able to give a good fight.

But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.

We will see who's gonna dominate but I would always love to place my bet on the underdog all day, I like him staying the way he is and he is confident to win the fight again, actually I don't need to listen to his words, his action is enough for me to believe that he will again knock joshua.

Right, who wouldn't love to put on the underdog here? I mean Ruiz already prove that in their previous fight and he can replicate it. And definitely everyone is excited to see this rematch, It's gonna be a game changing fight for this two, more so though on Anthony Joshua, pressure still on him and not on Andy Ruiz. If Ruiz losses this one, I think he can live with that and continue to fight. But for Joshua, it will be devastating.
The chance for Ruiz to replicate the same previous fight is tiny and I think he understand that which is why he trained a lot these days cause Anthony underestimated him then.
@d3nz, what do you mean by staying the way he's cause the fighter in subject have lost huge pounds.

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November 07, 2019, 11:29:00 AM
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Heavyweight contender Tyson Fury would like to see his countryman Anthony Joshua get revenge against Andy Ruiz - but he doesn't expect that scenario to take place.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-i-hope-joshua-wins-i-see-ruiz-doing-same-thing--144072

Fury wanted Joshua to win, however, he thinks that Ruiz will make it 2-0.

Of course, if Joshua win then it's going to be a mega fight between the two. But a Ruiz win will put them in collision course, and for me it will be a very easy fight for him because we all know that Fury has different tools, jabs and good defense that can overwhelm Ruiz.

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November 07, 2019, 11:51:34 AM
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Heavyweight contender Tyson Fury would like to see his countryman Anthony Joshua get revenge against Andy Ruiz - but he doesn't expect that scenario to take place.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-i-hope-joshua-wins-i-see-ruiz-doing-same-thing--144072

Fury wanted Joshua to win, however, he thinks that Ruiz will make it 2-0.

Of course, if Joshua win then it's going to be a mega fight between the two. But a Ruiz win will put them in collision course, and for me it will be a very easy fight for him because we all know that Fury has different tools, jabs and good defense that can overwhelm Ruiz.
I also thought that Ruiz would win this fight.but after seeing the odds on Sportsbetio (https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/joshua-anthony-ruiz-jr-andy-5d4e7739a0de2962b0cbecf7) I'm not too sure anymore Ruiz will win. the Odds are too different, I think this fight will be a trilogy fight.
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November 07, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
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Heavyweight contender Tyson Fury would like to see his countryman Anthony Joshua get revenge against Andy Ruiz - but he doesn't expect that scenario to take place.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-i-hope-joshua-wins-i-see-ruiz-doing-same-thing--144072

Fury wanted Joshua to win, however, he thinks that Ruiz will make it 2-0.

Of course, if Joshua win then it's going to be a mega fight between the two. But a Ruiz win will put them in collision course, and for me it will be a very easy fight for him because we all know that Fury has different tools, jabs and good defense that can overwhelm Ruiz.
Don't talk of Tyson Fury fighting Andy Ruiz first. You should know that Deontay Wilder and Andy Ruiz are under PBC, so they are easier to match. And PBC is hard to negotiate with other promoters. Much more harder if we talk about Ruiz vs Fury, because everyone knows PBC is in a disadvantage.

I also thought that Ruiz would win this fight.but after seeing the odds on Sportsbetio (https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/joshua-anthony-ruiz-jr-andy-5d4e7739a0de2962b0cbecf7) I'm not too sure anymore Ruiz will win. the Odds are too different, I think this fight will be a trilogy fight.

Who cares about the odds. Bookmakers will drop AJ odds because he got more betting fans and supporters than Ruiz. This is why odds are sometimes deceiving due to supply and demand. 

 
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November 07, 2019, 06:55:29 PM
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There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.

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November 07, 2019, 08:24:17 PM
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There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.

Where did you see that Joshua will be receiving $75 million for the rematch? That sounds highly unlikely even if AJ is one of the UK's top prize fighters.

I mean we can assume that AJ and Ruiz are getting 50:50 for the next fight, do you really think Ruiz is getting paid $75m... I highly doubt that.

I think it's probably somewhere more like $25-$30 million for the pair if 50:50, or $35m and $25m if not.
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There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.
Although Ruiz can be consider as the favourite here but there was news regarding the payment from both of fighters that Ruiz payment will be so low compare to Joshua payment that he will only get 9 million pounds for this rematch and for Joshua payment it will be doubled or triples from Ruiz money but i don't think it will be reach to $75 million

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November 08, 2019, 11:26:56 AM
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There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.
Although Ruiz can be consider as the favourite here but there was news regarding the payment from both of fighters that Ruiz payment will be so low compare to Joshua payment that he will only get 9 million pounds for this rematch and for Joshua payment it will be doubled or triples from Ruiz money but i don't think it will be reach to $75 million

Ruiz is not the favorites, though he is the current champion but its still AJ who is the favorites here.
You can check the line in one of the betting sites,

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/joshua-anthony-ruiz-jr-andy-5d4e7739a0de2962b0cbecf7

Odds : Ruiz - 3 AJ - 1.34

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I’m really looking forward to this fight, I expect & hope that Joshua will avenge his surprise defeat from the first bout. Ruiz caught a complacent Joshua, I don’t think AJ will make the same mistakes again.

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I’m really looking forward to this fight, I expect & hope that Joshua will avenge his surprise defeat from the first bout. Ruiz caught a complacent Joshua, I don’t think AJ will make the same mistakes again.

Looking at the odds, it's obvious that the odd makers will see Joshua as the winner, even though Ruiz defeated him in the first fight.

Could be Joshua is over confident and complacent that he can defeat Ruiz easily and look for the next fight and that his mistakes. But I think this is going to be an exciting fight, Ruiz is really vent on proving that his win is for real and not a fluke as Joshua's camp is trying to portray.

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November 08, 2019, 01:40:33 PM
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I’m really looking forward to this fight, I expect & hope that Joshua will avenge his surprise defeat from the first bout. Ruiz caught a complacent Joshua, I don’t think AJ will make the same mistakes again.

Looking at the odds, it's obvious that the odd makers will see Joshua as the winner, even though Ruiz defeated him in the first fight.

Could be Joshua is over confident and complacent that he can defeat Ruiz easily and look for the next fight and that his mistakes. But I think this is going to be an exciting fight, Ruiz is really vent on proving that his win is for real and not a fluke as Joshua's camp is trying to portray.
Basing on the odds then theres no doubt that AJ is the favorite on here but I wont believe that Ruiz team aren't preparing for something.

He would need to prove it out that hes way more better than AJ into their rematch and it isn't really bad to throw up some dollars on Ruiz though
considering on the odds given but I think this rematch would be on one-sided.

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November 08, 2019, 05:47:14 PM
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There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.
Although Ruiz can be consider as the favourite here but there was news regarding the payment from both of fighters that Ruiz payment will be so low compare to Joshua payment that he will only get 9 million pounds for this rematch and for Joshua payment it will be doubled or triples from Ruiz money but i don't think it will be reach to $75 million
There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.

Where did you see that Joshua will be receiving $75 million for the rematch? That sounds highly unlikely even if AJ is one of the UK's top prize fighters.

I mean we can assume that AJ and Ruiz are getting 50:50 for the next fight, do you really think Ruiz is getting paid $75m... I highly doubt that.

I think it's probably somewhere more like $25-$30 million for the pair if 50:50, or $35m and $25m if not.
I won’t argue with you guys, but this information is available on the network (vRINGe..com) that American heavyweight Jarrell Miller commented on.  It was Miller who voiced such numbers for a rematch ($75 m) .  I am also shocked by what I said, so I wanted to share this news.

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November 08, 2019, 11:43:49 PM
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There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.
Although Ruiz can be consider as the favourite here but there was news regarding the payment from both of fighters that Ruiz payment will be so low compare to Joshua payment that he will only get 9 million pounds for this rematch and for Joshua payment it will be doubled or triples from Ruiz money but i don't think it will be reach to $75 million
There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.

Where did you see that Joshua will be receiving $75 million for the rematch? That sounds highly unlikely even if AJ is one of the UK's top prize fighters.

I mean we can assume that AJ and Ruiz are getting 50:50 for the next fight, do you really think Ruiz is getting paid $75m... I highly doubt that.

I think it's probably somewhere more like $25-$30 million for the pair if 50:50, or $35m and $25m if not.
I won’t argue with you guys, but this information is available on the network (vRINGe..com) that American heavyweight Jarrell Miller commented on.  It was Miller who voiced such numbers for a rematch ($75 m) .  I am also shocked by what I said, so I wanted to share this news.

Never heard of it but thanks for sharing.

It doesn't make sense though, and I far as I can remember they have a rematch clause but $75 million is too big imho. Yes, AJ is still the A-side of the fight although he lost the first match, but personally I'm not seeing and not buying this $75 million pay check. Even Fury and Wilder wouldn't get that money right now.

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I’m really looking forward to this fight, I expect & hope that Joshua will avenge his surprise defeat from the first bout. Ruiz caught a complacent Joshua, I don’t think AJ will make the same mistakes again.

Looking at the odds, it's obvious that the odd makers will see Joshua as the winner, even though Ruiz defeated him in the first fight.

Could be Joshua is over confident and complacent that he can defeat Ruiz easily and look for the next fight and that his mistakes. But I think this is going to be an exciting fight, Ruiz is really vent on proving that his win is for real and not a fluke as Joshua's camp is trying to portray.

Andy Ruiz wants to prove, however, Anthony Joshua might have also trained harder to disprove. I am waiting for the millions of Mexicans to bet on their fighter to improve Joshua's odds hehehe.

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