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August 14, 2019, 06:09:49 AM
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Hello Meta.
So i had several discussions with user bob123 about my trading bot service
here and here where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence. I even tried to offer my bot service at special privileges to him so he can test it and see i'm not a scammer but refused and continued spamming until, also thanks to other users, we roasted him.

After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:






Maybe i can understand the last one, after replying so many times to the same nonsense accusations i started to lose my calm, but what about the first 2?

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August 14, 2019, 06:24:05 AM
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but why would a mod delete something like this:
Your post may not have been off-topic, but not only off-topic replies gets deleted,.
Your bot looks too good to be true, and the services you claim you it offers is to an extent suspicious, so the mod who deleted probably felt the need to warn others(the unsuspecting ones) from falling for such by removing it.

If your "magic" bot is legit, you do not need to worry about it getting deleted or arguing with users over it's potential, just go ahead and use it yourself alone,they'll be the ones missing out, won't they? Wink Grin

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Maybe the last one is off-topic and not much add to the discussion that's why it's been reported and the mods delete it. Seems those earlier post been deleted are old bumps and maybe one guy reported it as well then deleted it by mods, see the reference of the rule below. So far is that the only posts been deleted on your posts?

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August 14, 2019, 07:08:14 AM
Last edit: August 14, 2019, 07:26:35 AM by CryptoSparks
 #4

but why would a mod delete something like this:
Your post may not have been off-topic, but not only off-topic replies gets deleted,.
Your bot looks too good to be true, and the services you claim you it offers is to an extent suspicious, so the mod who deleted probably felt the need to warn others(the unsuspecting ones) from falling for such by removing it.

If your "magic" bot is legit, you do not need to worry about it getting deleted or arguing with users over it's potential, just go ahead and use it yourself alone,they'll be the ones missing out, won't they? Wink Grin

What's suspicious ? 95% of all trading is made by algo bots. why do you think they exits? probably because they manage to make money.
Quant shops, Hedge Fund, are they magicians?
Please do your research on the argument.. on next month thread i will share read only key of test account so everyone can see the performance.
Anyway i'm not here to talk about my service, so please stay on topic. Besides that , the "warning of unsuspecting ones" out of a mod's personal opinion of a business like many others and without any bad reviews, would be the worst of things. so i hope and don't think is this



Maybe the last one is off-topic and not much add to the discussion that's why it's been reported and the mods delete it. Seems those earlier post been deleted are old bumps and maybe one guy reported it as well then deleted it by mods, see the reference of the rule below. So far is that the only posts been deleted on your posts?

21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

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August 14, 2019, 07:33:00 AM
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[..] where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence.

I never accused you of scamming.
All i did was pointing out that this offer is sketchy and that there is a possibility of user losing funds.

Especially since you were not able to properly answer questions. Combined with your super logic of 'more people doing the same trade means more money for all of us' that raises flags.

It would be way more profitable to simply gather investments and get rich fast, but you decide to offer this 'service' here, promoting it and wasting your time contributing in bounties which earn you a few $ per hour.
This simply doesn't make much sense.



[..] and continued spamming

If it is spam, report the posts.
I am sure the moderators will delete them if they indeed are just spam.



[..] we roasted him.

Grin Did i miss something ?

Sorry, but i won't engage in off-topic discussions where XRP and EOS are considered to not be shitcoins.



After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:

They got deleted because they violated the forum rules. And no, i did not report each of them.

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August 14, 2019, 07:41:35 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.

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August 14, 2019, 07:46:40 AM
Last edit: August 14, 2019, 07:58:16 AM by CryptoSparks
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[..] where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence.

I never accused you of scamming.
All i did was pointing out that this offer is sketchy and that there is a possibility of user losing funds.

Especially since you were not able to properly answer questions. Combined with your super logic of 'more people doing the same trade means more money for all of us' that raises flags.

It would be way more profitable to simply gather investments and get rich fast, but you decide to offer this 'service' here, promoting it and wasting your time contributing in bounties which earn you a few $ per hour.
This simply doesn't make much sense.



[..] and continued spamming

If it is spam, report the posts.
I am sure the moderators will delete them if they indeed are just spam.



[..] we roasted him.

Grin Did i miss something ?

Sorry, but i won't engage in off-topic discussions where XRP and EOS are considered to not be shitcoins.



After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:

They got deleted because they violated the forum rules. And no, i did not report each of them.

Funny guy, go ahead and read the whole thing again, all you have been done is yelling scam simply because you have no knowledge in the space. I explained things in detail several times, you simply got roasted and disappear(finally  Grin )
Also yeah sure, you aren't the one trying to rise the number of my deleted post, i wonder how you know that i did some translation bounties in 2018. OPSS  i guess you spent good hours searching in my 900+ post history;D Grin Lucky for me i stopped wasting my time with bounties(how is your signature going btw?) and started working on my bots. But hey i will be waiting you on my next month thread, big things coming  Kiss

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August 14, 2019, 07:47:30 AM
Last edit: August 14, 2019, 08:19:52 AM by YOSHIE
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The problem is here, bob123 and you protect each other's reputation,
You threatened to report. @ bob123, for spam posts.

If you keep spamming my threads i will report you, since are now 3 months that this is going on.

Feel free to report each single post.
I am sure the moderators will take care of it, if it really happens to be spam  Smiley

But most likely they won't remove my posts where i outline your logical errors as well as the potential for you to scam people.

Now look what is said by: @theymos.
About topic replies or posters are useless.

What about these posts which consist of nothing but "+1", or "-1"?

I consider these posts to be off-topic because they have no point, but they don't cause much damage, so I usually don't delete them unless the poster posts useless replies a lot or the useless replies are reported.

Other moderators might be more or less strict about this.

So, I think your post was deleted based on the above, possibly.

who is fast he wins.
You know what I mean ...!

In other cases, if you make a mistake about your post, which violates the forum rules, your post can also be deleted.
for example error:


1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

2. No off-topic posts.

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4. No referral code (ref link) spam. [1]

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]

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August 14, 2019, 07:47:42 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.

That brings value to my thread, is not a bump

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August 14, 2019, 07:54:20 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.


But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120


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August 14, 2019, 07:54:59 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.

That brings value to my thread, is not a bump


Are you really just trying to argue about that ?

Please first read the forum rules:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

So, if it is not a bump it falls under this category.

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August 14, 2019, 07:55:18 AM
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The problem is here, bob123 and you protect each other's reputation,
You threatened to report. @ bob123, for spam posts.

If you keep spamming my threads i will report you, since are now 3 months that this is going on.

Feel free to report each single post.
I am sure the moderators will take care of it, if it really happens to be spam  Smiley

But most likely they won't remove my posts where i outline your logical errors as well as the potential for you to scam people.

Now look what is said by: @theymos.
About topic replies or posters are useless.

What about these posts which consist of nothing but "+1", or "-1"?

I consider these posts to be off-topic because they have no point, but they don't cause much damage, so I usually don't delete them unless the poster posts useless replies a lot or the useless replies are reported.

Other moderators might be more or less strict about this.

So, I think your post was deleted based on the above, possibly.

Who is that fast who can.
You know what I mean ...!

I agree with theymos' view, but he says "because they have no point" . If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted? i mean it doesn't make sense for me. I think that the old bumps rule reffers to threads where all last replies are
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and none of them bring any kind of "new value"

Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.


But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120



Exactly this!

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August 14, 2019, 07:56:51 AM
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If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted?

In this case you could simply edit your last post to include the new trades / information.

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August 14, 2019, 07:59:48 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.


But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120



And when they're reported they're acted upon, which is probably what happened here. Report undeleted bumps if you see them.

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August 14, 2019, 08:01:15 AM
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That brings value to my thread, is not a bump
If you're the last one who posted in the thread, you can edit your last post to "bring value". If you add another post, it's considered a bump.

I do admit I sometimes make posts in a row though, for various reasons, and I sometimes forget to delete an old bump. Some of them I notice by myself much later, some of them get removed by Mods.

But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120
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August 14, 2019, 08:03:42 AM
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If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted?

In this case you could simply edit your last post to include the new trades / information.

That would quickly turn into a mess.
Also if i have an actual value to bring and reason to up my thread every 3 days i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to do so, especially when most of people, as the user UmerIdrees pointed out, do savage ups without no consequences.

The difference is that I have you reporting all my posts because you got roasted and can't get over it

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Also if i have an actual value to bring and reason to up my thread every 3 days i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to do so
The fact that it's in the rules should be enough reason:
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

What you should have done, is create a few "Reserved" posts right after you started the topic, and edit those with updates.

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If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted?

In this case you could simply edit your last post to include the new trades / information.

If you simply edit your last post and put new information about the trades, your thread will remain buried somewhere (If no one replies on it) and no one will notice if you posted any new trades or not.

A better option will be to copy the last post content, delete the last post, and make the new post with the old trade data  (last Post) + the new trade data. This way your thread will also be on top of the list and the new information will also be posted and there will be no bump related issues.

Correct me i am wrong ?

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August 14, 2019, 08:11:14 AM
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Also if i have an actual value to bring and reason to up my thread every 3 days i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to do so
The fact that it's in the rules should be enough reason:
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)

So what are we talking about here? i'm allowed to up my thread like in every forum with some common sense of course.


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August 14, 2019, 08:13:26 AM
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If you simply edit your last post and put new information about the trades, your thread will remain buried somewhere (If no one replies on it) and no one will notice if you posted any new trades or not.
How about this: Edit the post, then create a new one with just "Bump". That needs to be at least 24 hours after the last post.
When you bump it again, you delete the previous bump.

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A better option will be to copy the last post content, delete the last post, and make the new post with the old trade data  (last Post) + the new trade data. This way your thread will also be on top of the list and the new information will also be posted and there will be no bump related issues.
I do that sometimes (example 1, example 2), but only in certain topics.

(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)
Lol, are you lecturing me on the forum rules?
How's this one:
21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

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