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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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October 18, 2022, 09:27:29 PM
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It makes sense for Barcelona to have some sort of crumbling weeks, because they are getting quite tired, and they are a new team trying to show their talents individually, but the system Xavi (and Barcelona has played for decades) instilling is not there just yet.

The great tiki-taka optimized for today’s world will take a bit of time for them to get used to, and meanwhile, they will have a few bad games in a row, when you have one bad game, it follows the other, you forget how to play football for a while, happens to even the best players. I am sure that once things start to click, they are going to be an unstoppable force for sure, not going to really have any trouble at all.

Xavi Hernandez is in the spotlight after Barcelona's performance declined drastically in his last few matches. The defeat to Real Madrid made Xavi then made many people, especially Barcelona management, shrouded in doubt about his capacity. The reason is, Barcelona has supported Xavi throughout the summer transfer market of 2022 by bringing in players he likes. Despite having brought in many star players, in fact Barcelona's game has not shown real progress under the direction of the legend.

If Barcelona never shows an increase in performance in all the competitions that are followed, then the threat of dismissal is now haunting Xavi. The living legend of Barcelona is also now labeled as the worst coach and much worse than Ronald Koeman and Ernesto Valverde.
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October 18, 2022, 09:38:49 PM
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Atletico Madrid fail to continue their positive trend after being held to 1-1 draw by Rayo Vallecano, failed with full points achievement make Atletico can't catch Barcelona on second standing position left 2 points. Had taken the lead through Alvaro Morata's goal in the 20th minute, but Radamel Falcoa's penalty in the extra minute of the second half forced Atletico to share points with Rayo Vallecano. Previously in the last three matches, Atletico Madrid were able to win three in a row, but a penalty from Radamel Falcoa in the last minute ended Atletico's winning streak.


Atletico Madrid is currently in third place with 20 points and Rayo Vallecano is in 10th place in the standings with 12 points.

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October 18, 2022, 09:55:13 PM
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FT: Atletico Madrid 1-1 Rayo Vallecano.

Falcao's penalty in extra time saw Rayo draw 1-1 with Atletico. The hosts had the better first half after taking a 1-0 lead when they tapped a loose pass from Fran Garcia when Morata picked up Griezmann's cross past Dimitrievski.

Rayo pushed for an equalizer in the second half but almost found themselves 2-0 down when Griezmann scored but he was only offside, and VAR then awarded the visitors a penalty as Gimenez and Falcao's handball came forward as penalty takers and did an excellent job. .

Atletico missed a chance to level on points with second-placed Barcelona, and they remain in third with five points behind Real Madrid. Atletico are unbeaten in four league games, while Rayo remain 10th and are now winless in their last three.
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October 18, 2022, 09:59:13 PM
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Atletico Madrid fail to continue their positive trend after being held to 1-1 draw by Rayo Vallecano, failed with full points achievement make Atletico can't catch Barcelona on second standing position left 2 points. Had taken the lead through Alvaro Morata's goal in the 20th minute, but Radamel Falcoa's penalty in the extra minute of the second half forced Atletico to share points with Rayo Vallecano.
Atletico Madrid is unlucky today. They almost got 3 points but they missed it in extra time.
I think Atletico Madrid gives too many chances for Rayo Vallecano in extra time. Atletico Madrid should learn from this match that they don't stop to play aggressively until the match is over already. If they lower the aggressiveness in attack, then the opponent will take advantage of it to attack fully. Moreover, the opponent in the position of losing with 1 goal, they have no choice but to focus on attacking all out.


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October 19, 2022, 03:36:45 AM
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Xavi Hernandez is in the spotlight after Barcelona's performance declined drastically in his last few matches. The defeat to Real Madrid made Xavi then made many people, especially Barcelona management, shrouded in doubt about his capacity. The reason is, Barcelona has supported Xavi throughout the summer transfer market of 2022 by bringing in players he likes. Despite having brought in many star players, in fact Barcelona's game has not shown real progress under the direction of the legend.

If Barcelona never shows an increase in performance in all the competitions that are followed, then the threat of dismissal is now haunting Xavi. The living legend of Barcelona is also now labeled as the worst coach and much worse than Ronald Koeman and Ernesto Valverde.

Yes, I commented on this in a previous post. The bad thing about this now, for Barcelona, is that the team has to have near-perfect results to take the pressure off. Every slip up is going to be extra pressure on Xavi and the team, and, although Laporta won't want to get rid of Xavi easily, if they have a few more slip ups, I don't think he'll make it to Christmas.

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October 19, 2022, 04:05:44 AM
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Atletico Madrid fail to continue their positive trend after being held to 1-1 draw by Rayo Vallecano, failed with full points achievement make Atletico can't catch Barcelona on second standing position left 2 points. Had taken the lead through Alvaro Morata's goal in the 20th minute, but Radamel Falcoa's penalty in the extra minute of the second half forced Atletico to share points with Rayo Vallecano.
Atletico Madrid is unlucky today. They almost got 3 points but they missed it in extra time.
I think Atletico Madrid gives too many chances for Rayo Vallecano in extra time. Atletico Madrid should learn from this match that they don't stop to play aggressively until the match is over already. If they lower the aggressiveness in attack, then the opponent will take advantage of it to attack fully. Moreover, the opponent in the position of losing with 1 goal, they have no choice but to focus on attacking all out.

Atletico Madrid completely disappointed me in this match. I bet on this Atletico Madrid win. But they did not win. My prediction for this match was Atletico Madrid to win 2-1. But Atletico Madrid's performance was not good. They attack very little after scoring. They played a defensive strategy. This is why they lost points in this match. Atlético Madrid was a bit unlucky though. They conceded in extra time after 90 minutes. But I would say that Atletico Madrid lost because of the weakness in attack and the poor performance. Their match strategy was also not good. Atletico Madrid needs to play better if they want to qualify for the Champions League.

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October 19, 2022, 04:16:59 AM
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ATM 1 v 0 RAY. I already knew the match gonna be a tough game between both team clearly seeing the first goal under first half by A. Morata. Is there any certainty that they could win the match tonight or possible to be draw.
I love betting on live matches instead, although I understand that there odds decreases as the matches are on running while some of them are locked.
I would love placing a silly bet on 2nd half, planning to play it to be draw since we still have 2nd half to end.

Yes, the two teams really performed well in this match that made the match to ended up draw 1-1. ATM really demonstrated well in the first half that made them to score one goal to prepare the mind of their fans that they are in good position to win RAY but the match changed in the second half that gave RAY strikers opportunity to equalized the goal. Many people loss their bet in this match, because they predicted for the favour of ATM to win RAY 2-0 but RAY coach made some changes that make their players to be everywhere in the field  to draw the match to share the points.

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October 19, 2022, 04:19:01 AM
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Second half of the match between Athletic Club and Getafe C.F., and we have a draw so far. Athletic Club is superior, but after last Saturday's defeat versus Atlético de Madrid and concede the third position in the Liga, the morale may be low, so this could be a dangerous game for them.

They all drew the game that would have been sweet money but most people gambling are facing it tough to pick up the bigger odds when betting
Athletico Madrid won the first part but didn't do well in the second half both Griezman and Morata have been involved in the last two goals the club has scored. One assist one goal for them both.
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October 19, 2022, 04:38:00 AM
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Yes, the two teams really performed well in this match that made the match to ended up draw 1-1. ATM really demonstrated well in the first half that made them to score one goal to prepare the mind of their fans that they are in good position to win RAY but the match changed in the second half that gave RAY strikers opportunity to equalized the goal. Many people loss their bet in this match, because they predicted for the favour of ATM to win RAY 2-0 but RAY coach made some changes that make their players to be everywhere in the field  to draw the match to share the points.

Rayo Vallecano's performance against Atletico Madrid marveled me. I was expecting them to play defensively against an attacking team like Atletico. But coach Andoni Iraola chose to give Atletico an all-fronts battle and it paid off at last. This draw at home would be a very disappointing one, but this is the price Atletico should pay for creating very few goal-scoring opportunities and allowing Vallecano to use its wings effectively. A win in this match would given them have four consecutive wins.

Athletico needs a reliable striker because although he got a goal in that match, Morata is not a dependable striker. There were speculations that the club is targeting to bring  in Christiano Ronaldo but coach Diego Simone has disputed this news claiming that the club has no such intention.

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October 19, 2022, 04:38:31 AM
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Barcelona has added several defenders to their squad. I know this. But even then I would say that Xavi didn't focus on his defense. He added players to the squad but did not help them adapt to the team properly. He is more focused on his attack. But he is not interested in strengthening the bonding between the players. The performance will not be strong if the players of the midfield with the defense and the forwards with the midfield are not well balanced. Barcelona's gameplay clearly shows that the bonding between the players in the defense is not good. Their performance is poor due to poor understanding between the players. Xavi is not trying to improve the relationship between his defenders or he has failed.
Xavi is indeed very poor and even became the worst coach in the history of barcelona. In fact, during Xavi's coaching period for Barcelona, ​​this 42-year-old coach had a worse record than other Barcelona coaches in 50 matches. Xavi was only able to make 28 wins, 11 draws and 11 defeats. This is a bad value compared to previous coaches such as Ronald Koeman and Ernesto Valverde.
The defeat of his rivals, Real Madrid with a score of 1-3 made everyone disappointed and made Barcelona management shrouded in doubt on Xavi.
Even this threat of dismissal haunts Xavi, if Barcelona never shows an increase in performance in every match that follows. If Xavi is sacked Barcelona can find a better coach than Xavi.

Xavi does not have the experience to manage a big and renowned team like Barcelona. However, after the sacking of Koeman, Xavi has been able to consistently perform well for Barcelona in several matches. He stabilized a team that was almost in shambles in a very short time. But he is not able to strengthen the party. If he wants to strengthen a renowned team, he definitely needs a new match strategy. Must be experienced for this. Since Xavi lacks experience, he cannot strengthen the Barcelona team.

Barcelona management can now put an experienced coach in charge of the team, and keep Xavi as the assistant coach of the team. This will make Barcelona stronger and Xavi more experienced. Later Xavi could be made the head coach of the team.

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October 19, 2022, 04:51:46 AM
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Yes, the two teams really performed well in this match that made the match to ended up draw 1-1. ATM really demonstrated well in the first half that made them to score one goal to prepare the mind of their fans that they are in good position to win RAY but the match changed in the second half that gave RAY strikers opportunity to equalized the goal. Many people loss their bet in this match, because they predicted for the favour of ATM to win RAY 2-0 but RAY coach made some changes that make their players to be everywhere in the field  to draw the match to share the points.

Rayo Vallecano's performance against Atletico Madrid marveled me. I was expecting them to play defensively against an attacking team like Atletico. But coach Andoni Iraola chose to give Atletico an all-fronts battle and it paid off at last. This draw at home would be a very disappointing one, but this is the price Atletico should pay for creating very few goal-scoring opportunities and allowing Vallecano to use its wings effectively. A win in this match would make them have 4 consecutive win
Obviously most people will thought Atletico will going to win the match because of Atletico previous performance was quite better compared to Rayo but surprisingly Rayo was playing good in this match and they can threat Atletico several times and indeed second half was different because Atletico has decided to focus to their defense in the last 10 minutes and it makes Rayo playing more attacking since 80 minutes and apparently this is big mistakes because Rayo has successfully to utilized this situation and can take advantages from penalty kick

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October 19, 2022, 05:15:46 AM
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It makes sense for Barcelona to have some sort of crumbling weeks, because they are getting quite tired, and they are a new team trying to show their talents individually, but the system Xavi (and Barcelona has played for decades) instilling is not there just yet.

The great tiki-taka optimized for today’s world will take a bit of time for them to get used to, and meanwhile, they will have a few bad games in a row, when you have one bad game, it follows the other, you forget how to play football for a while, happens to even the best players. I am sure that once things start to click, they are going to be an unstoppable force for sure, not going to really have any trouble at all.

somehow I feel Barcelona's tiki-taka game has disappeared, look at their current matches. how about when the midfielders dribble. it's as if the tiki-taka that has been holding Barcelona's trademark has not been seen, they often miscommunicate.

so that every attack that is built is deadlocked, both when playing with Bayern, Inter and Real Madrid. maybe as you said, they need time for their chemistry to build one after another.

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October 19, 2022, 05:21:13 AM
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If Barcelona never shows an increase in performance in all the competitions that are followed, then the threat of dismissal is now haunting Xavi. The living legend of Barcelona is also now labeled as the worst coach and much worse than Ronald Koeman and Ernesto Valverde.
Hopefully, Barcelona will never forget that Xavi Hernandez is the one who put Barcelona back on track for the trophy after experiencing a bad season since being handled by Ronald Koeman. At that time, in a short time, only half a season, Xavi was able to make Barcelona strong again with more than satisfactory results because he was able to bring Barcelona to compete in the Champions League this season, finishing second in the 2021/2022 La Liga standings.



I don't think it's appropriate for Xavi to be addressed as the worst coach because Barcelona this season in La Liga is still in good form despite having poor results in the Champions League.

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October 19, 2022, 05:42:53 AM
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If Barcelona never shows an increase in performance in all the competitions that are followed, then the threat of dismissal is now haunting Xavi. The living legend of Barcelona is also now labeled as the worst coach and much worse than Ronald Koeman and Ernesto Valverde.
I don't think it's appropriate for Xavi to be addressed as the worst coach because Barcelona this season in La Liga is still in good form despite having poor results in the Champions League.

xavi has no faults, failure in the champions league is often obtained by big clubs. xavi is an amazing coach, look how last season he made Barca slump in La Liga then come back and stop in second place. barca are an ungrateful team if they dumped Xavi just for failing in the champions league.

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Sevilla FC vs Valencia FC, there were many highlights in this match. 10 yellow cards, 1 red card, 10 player substitutions, 14 minutes of overtime and in minute 102 a penalty for Valencia that José Luis Gaya Pena missed. There were some very famous names playing yesterday: Cavani (scored a goal), Rakitic, Isco, Kluivert, Lamela (scored a goal) and a few others. Valencia now in 8th place and Sevilla in 11th place in La Liga. The game has more highlights than the el classico. Yesterday was the matchday of draw in Spain, 3 games = 3x draw.

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October 19, 2022, 06:41:33 AM
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If Barcelona never shows an increase in performance in all the competitions that are followed, then the threat of dismissal is now haunting Xavi. The living legend of Barcelona is also now labeled as the worst coach and much worse than Ronald Koeman and Ernesto Valverde.
Hopefully, Barcelona will never forget that Xavi Hernandez is the one who put Barcelona back on track for the trophy after experiencing a bad season since being handled by Ronald Koeman. At that time, in a short time, only half a season, Xavi was able to make Barcelona strong again with more than satisfactory results because he was able to bring Barcelona to compete in the Champions League this season, finishing second in the 2021/2022 La Liga standings.



I don't think it's appropriate for Xavi to be addressed as the worst coach because Barcelona this season in La Liga is still in good form despite having poor results in the Champions League.

I don't think that anyone is disputing that Cavi did well for Barcelona. Xavi is not a bad coach but I also know that almost every coach can do what Xavi is doing and more with the squad in Barcelona.  Xavi could be doing so much for Barcelona but to my assessment he hasn't done much in champions league.
Last season he crashed out of the champions league to Europa and this season the  same is happening. Barcelona is not an Europa League club.

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October 19, 2022, 06:48:38 AM
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I don't think it's appropriate for Xavi to be addressed as the worst coach because Barcelona this season in La Liga is still in good form despite having poor results in the Champions League.
xavi has no faults, failure in the champions league is often obtained by big clubs. xavi is an amazing coach, look how last season he made Barca slump in La Liga then come back and stop in second place. barca are an ungrateful team if they dumped Xavi just for failing in the champions league.
The news that Xavi Hernandez will be sacked by Barcelona is not necessarily true. After accepting defeat in the El Clasico match at the Santiago Bernabeu, which was his first defeat in La Liga, there was a lot of news about Xavi. Among the bad news about Xavi, I agree that Xavi should stop experimenting with players. Because the Barcelona that was coached by Xavi was not the Barcelona that he was still actively playing with Messi and Iniesta.

If Barcelona never shows an increase in performance in all the competitions that are followed, then the threat of dismissal is now haunting Xavi. The living legend of Barcelona is also now labeled as the worst coach and much worse than Ronald Koeman and Ernesto Valverde.
Hopefully, Barcelona will never forget that Xavi Hernandez is the one who put Barcelona back on track for the trophy after experiencing a bad season since being handled by Ronald Koeman. At that time, in a short time, only half a season, Xavi was able to make Barcelona strong again with more than satisfactory results because he was able to bring Barcelona to compete in the Champions League this season, finishing second in the 2021/2022 La Liga standings.



I don't think it's appropriate for Xavi to be addressed as the worst coach because Barcelona this season in La Liga is still in good form despite having poor results in the Champions League.

I don't think that anyone is disputing that Cavi did well for Barcelona. Xavi is not a bad coach but I also know that almost every coach can do what Xavi is doing and more with the squad in Barcelona.  Xavi could be doing so much for Barcelona but to my assessment he hasn't done much in champions league.
Last season he crashed out of the champions league to Europa and this season the  same is happening. Barcelona is not an Europa League club.
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October 19, 2022, 06:55:42 AM
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Who will Xavi include in the squad as a replacement for Sergio Busquets? Barcelona does not have experienced midfielders. Busquets is an experienced player. But he is not playing well now. The bonding of forward's players with midfield is not good. Barcelona's performance is not as good as expected due to weak bonding. Barcelona has several weaknesses in their squad. But I think the main reason for the attack's weakness is that they are not getting enough support from the midfielders. Barcelona's overall gameplay will be stronger and stronger if the performances of the midfield and defense players improve.
Is Sergio Busquets an experienced midfielder, most definitely! but is Busquets obsolete and no longer essential, literally the freaking truth! He shouldn't be out there starting every game, he should be dropped, I'd rather have a Gavi, Pedri, Kessie or De Jong, both De Jong and Kessie can play as a CDM, or even Gavi who has been very energetic and got great passing accuracy and covers most distance on the pitch than most of other Barcelona players in most of the recent games.
Sergio Busquets.? His time with Barcelona is over. He is not reliable anymore, his age which has passed the golden age as a football player has made him experience many declines in his appearance.
Xavi still has many more energetic and reliable players in the midfield. I don't think he will stay at Barcelona much longer, the conditions that Sergio Busquets are in are the same as Gerard Pique.

I would say Sergio Busquets and Pique shouldn't be in Barcelona right now. These two players are a threat to Barcelona's squad at the moment. They are not playing well and often make bad mistakes, resulting in Barcelona conceding goals. Barcelona now have talented and reliable players in Sergio Busquets and Pique. And so we probably won't see these two players in Barcelona's squad anytime soon.

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October 19, 2022, 07:16:00 AM
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Who will Xavi include in the squad as a replacement for Sergio Busquets? Barcelona does not have experienced midfielders. Busquets is an experienced player. But he is not playing well now. The bonding of forward's players with midfield is not good. Barcelona's performance is not as good as expected due to weak bonding. Barcelona has several weaknesses in their squad. But I think the main reason for the attack's weakness is that they are not getting enough support from the midfielders. Barcelona's overall gameplay will be stronger and stronger if the performances of the midfield and defense players improve.
Is Sergio Busquets an experienced midfielder, most definitely! but is Busquets obsolete and no longer essential, literally the freaking truth! He shouldn't be out there starting every game, he should be dropped, I'd rather have a Gavi, Pedri, Kessie or De Jong, both De Jong and Kessie can play as a CDM, or even Gavi who has been very energetic and got great passing accuracy and covers most distance on the pitch than most of other Barcelona players in most of the recent games.
Sergio Busquets.? His time with Barcelona is over. He is not reliable anymore, his age which has passed the golden age as a football player has made him experience many declines in his appearance.
Xavi still has many more energetic and reliable players in the midfield. I don't think he will stay at Barcelona much longer, the conditions that Sergio Busquets are in are the same as Gerard Pique.

I would say Sergio Busquets and Pique shouldn't be in Barcelona right now. These two players are a threat to Barcelona's squad at the moment. They are not playing well and often make bad mistakes, resulting in Barcelona conceding goals. Barcelona now have talented and reliable players in Sergio Busquets and Pique. And so we probably won't see these two players in Barcelona's squad anytime soon.
Yes indeed, it's time for them to be removed from the Barcelona main squad but for some reason they still feel like they are needed, even though players for other lines have been rejuvenated. So yes, the rejuvenation should be done completely to make the team fresher and more energetic, and the team that managed to do the overall rejuvenation is Arsenal. Barcelona still looks very dependent on senior players, even though it is no longer important if they can't really contribute to the team. The defeat of Real Madrid was enough for Barcelona to be difficult to regain the top position, because their squad is still not perfect in several lines which of course will have an unfavorable impact on their performance.

Apart from that, by the way, did anyone bet in last night's match about Sevilla, Bilbao and Atletico all getting draws. To be honest it might be a pretty surprising final result, because on paper at least Bilbao and Atletico have a chance to win because the opponents are not a strong team this season. I wonder if today's match will be like that too because again and again, today's match looks like it will be a win for Betis and Real Madrid because the opponent is a team that is at the bottom of the standings.

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I would say Sergio Busquets and Pique shouldn't be in Barcelona right now. These two players are a threat to Barcelona's squad at the moment. They are not playing well and often make bad mistakes, resulting in Barcelona conceding goals. Barcelona now have talented and reliable players in Sergio Busquets and Pique. And so we probably won't see these two players in Barcelona's squad anytime soon.
Busquet is still helpful depends on how Barcelona use him but Pique is no longer good to use. His time is counting down and I believe he will no longer have chance to play for Barcelona after the season ending.

Pique is older than Busquet and he has more ageing problems too. At centre of a defense system, it is terrible if you are no longer fast enough to follow and constrain your opponental attacking players. In addition, besides Pique it is hard to get other players who are strong and good enough to cover him.

Busquet is helpful in case Barcelona need a central midfielder who can distribute balls and control the intensity of playing. However, he is not good if Barcelona has to hunt for goals to equalize or win a match. Gavi, Pedri and De Jong can be more useful if Barcelona want to find winning goals.

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