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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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December 26, 2022, 10:53:08 AM
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In my opinion, Xavi is terrible as a coach and even if by some miracle he gets a super team at his disposal (as happened with Guardiola who got the golden team of Spain) with which he will receive titles, this will not be proof that he is perfect. To consider a coach great, you need to see his strategy, his flexibility (and not "put together a top team and play only plan A") and of course confirmation of his status in different clubs. I think Xavi is cosmically far from it.
There is nothing the Barcelona management can do because Xavi is currently under contract to coach Barcelona until June 2024. Meanwhile, if Barcelona wants to replace him immediately, it will have to spend a lot of money on severance pay for Xavi, further deteriorating the club's financial situation. At least Xavi still has time to make changes and try to get lucky with his achievements to bring Barcelona back to being the best again in the field of football.
Barcelona can terminated his contract anytime. The decision owned by the management. Barcelona didn't need to spend a lot of money to get a new coach. Signing a new coach will be far cheaper compared with buying the players. I think that barcelona's management must think about once xavi will get another bad achievement and he must be sacked. Barcelona has been using everything to follow his instruction but once barcelona will get nothing at the end of season and lporta shall sack him as soon as possible.
That means id xavi has not even had competence to be a barcelona's coach again.

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December 26, 2022, 12:04:54 PM
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There is nothing the Barcelona management can do because Xavi is currently under contract to coach Barcelona until June 2024. Meanwhile, if Barcelona wants to replace him immediately, it will have to spend a lot of money on severance pay for Xavi, further deteriorating the club's financial situation. At least Xavi still has time to make changes and try to get lucky with his achievements to bring Barcelona back to being the best again in the field of football.
I also agree with what you said, because replacing Xavi with another coach in the middle of the season like now will not be very good for the Barcelona team, so the Barcelona team itself must keep Xavi at least according to the time of Xavi's contract, and after that the team management Barcelona can see and assess how Xavi and the team have performed while training Barcelona. After all, this season Barcelona is also not looking bad in La Liga, so there is no story to replace him in the middle of the season.
After all, what is the reason for changing coaches in the middle of a season like this, even though they haven't really returned to the Barcelona we used to know, slowly I can say that Xavi Hernandez has been quite successful in bringing Barcelona to improve from their downturn last season. And also whether replacing it will give the expected performance? I think there is no guarantee for that. So keeping Xavi is a good move for now.

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December 26, 2022, 12:30:31 PM
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I don't think Xavi will have that heart to offload old players who played with him and achieved so much then,to him he will them as the legends of Barca and are also his friends,so he will find it difficult. This is one of the major reason Barca is in this shape. Xavi is not competent to be the club coach due to this  weakness. Barca needs young players that will play and understand themselves to make a good club.
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December 26, 2022, 12:34:24 PM
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It looks like Barcelona's appeal of a three-game suspension for Lewandowski has been finally dismissed. He will have to miss all three games, including the away game against Atlético. If Atlético doesn't fail again or something extraordinary happens, I think that Barcelona will score a maximum of one point in this game. If Real don't lose points, then we will again see equality in the first two places in the standings.
Previously, what problem did Lewandowski have that caused him to be suspended for 3 matches? I haven't heard any news about him today. The away match against Atletico Madrid will certainly be a crucial match considering that Barcelona must win this match if Real Madrid does not want to shift its position at the top of the standings.

In the game with Osasuna, Lewandowski received two yellow cards -> they turned into a red card and he was sent off. When he left the field, he showed a disrespectful gesture towards the referee. The disciplinary committee for this violation gave him three games of disqualification. I would say that Lewandowski acted unprofessionally in this case.

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December 26, 2022, 12:47:31 PM
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Indeed, it was blamable Lewandowski's behaviour, and the consequences of his acts will have impact for sure in the next matches played by FC Barcelona. Taking into account their situation (they can't hire new players), they should be more careful with what they do and the implicit dangers.

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December 26, 2022, 01:01:18 PM
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14 matches scoring 33 goals and conceding 5 goals actually their defense is not bad either, but when their core squad leaves one by one this is not so good for Barcelona.
Indeed, in this case they are still very good but maybe it will be a little different if their condition in terms of injured players is like before, especially now that there are already several who will leave in their defense.
I think for now maybe it won't be too influential in terms of defense, but if you keep letting it go it won't be too good.
Stability. One more job for xavi to become a lifetime manager for barcelona is to make the club back in stability being on top chasing trophies every season and then he could be considered as great as pep guardiola , especially if he found great talents like messi in la masia.

Never easy job to take barcelona back on track and so far he did it great!
I think this is still very far, chasing Pep at Barcelona is definitely not just a title of coach because Xavi has to try even harder than now and even then I'm still skeptical of Xavi.
At this time, even indirectly, there are still many who say that he is a very good coach, but we cannot hide the fact that he is currently under threat in his coaching position.
The conditions are still uncertain for the title at the moment and the exit from the Champions League exacerbates it when they need a good performance.

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December 26, 2022, 01:25:29 PM
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Bilbao are currently in a fairly good position. They have had consistency in their play and have secured many consecutive match wins. Everyone in the team is united to do well and hope they show more great performances in the future.
Actually, if you look at the current conditions, I feel that their consistency is a little faded and it can be seen in the last 5 matches that they have run, even though they are still good enough for them with 2 wins, 2 losses and 1 draw, but this also proves that they are faltering now.
On the other hand, judging from their position, they are also currently collecting the same points and I don't think it is too appropriate to say that Bilbao is better in terms of position because they are winning from goal productivity only now.
No doubt about their position but now things looking tricky for them specially after break because they are going to visit Betis which is also looking for the better spot and have good chance to beat them in this home match and replace their spot with most chances Atlético Madrid which was struggling badly before break now bring improvement and have good result against bottom side Elche which will give them again higher rank which they lost and now having fifth rank just because of goal difference because now we have three teams with same point and most chances things could be tough for these all four teams which are fighting for the two spots which allow them for having chance to be joined Champions League in next season.
 
Here all four teams are facing bad time and have same level performance which is not good because suddenly losing too many matches are not good for them and now in coming round mostly are facing each other which will also bring good difference in points and changes in ranks as well.
Still the first game after the break is going to be a bit of a hassle and I'm pretty sure in this game a tight score or maybe even a draw for the final result is inevitable.
Even though both teams are on a not-so-good trend after an impressive start to the season so they need points now to be able to further the competition from other teams and to make their position more comfortable.

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December 26, 2022, 01:38:00 PM
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Indeed, it was blamable Lewandowski's behaviour, and the consequences of his acts will have impact for sure in the next matches played by FC Barcelona. Taking into account their situation (they can't hire new players), they should be more careful with what they do and the implicit dangers.

If you look at the card statistics Lewandoski received, he actually got a red card quite rarely. If I'm not mistaken, he only received 3 red cards during his time as a professional footballer. Even at Bayern Munich it seems that he has never received a Red Card.
If you realize at that time it turned out that not only Lewandowski was expelled, it turned out that Pique was also due to strong protests. Jesus Gil Manzano is notoriously assertive, I read if he has even indeed issued a lot of red cards in the matches he leads.

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December 26, 2022, 01:40:42 PM
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the Real Madrid vs Valladolid match and the Barcelona vs Espanyol match seem a bit easy to predict. because the match should be a fairly easy game for Barcelona and Real madrid. But I am a little interested in the match between Villareal vs Valencia. Villareal is ranked 9th in the standings with 21 points acquired. while Valencia is ranked 10th in the standings with 19 points acquired. I think this match will be a little interesting. and it will also be a fierce match. but what's unique is that when Villareal fights Valencia, the match always ends with one of them losing or winning and rarely a draw.

Since the teams will be playing after a long time, I would say that even if the opponent is weak, it will not be easy for them to win. Valladolid and Espanyol are relatively weak teams. However, Madrid and Barcelona are likely to drop points in this match if they don't perform carefully.

Villarreal and Valencia are only two points apart. Both teams will want to climb to the top of the table. And so this match is very important for both the teams. But I think Villarreal will win against Valencia. Because it is their home match. And Villarreal have won their last 3 home matches against Valencia.
Villarreal ahead rather than Valencia, friendly matches have also been going quite well so far for Villarreal when compared to Valencia. Also this match will be held at the Estadio de la Cerámica at home Villarreal get high advantage in this match later, so I agree with your opinion Villarreal can win and got three points. But in my opinion the most interesting match is the Real Betis vs Athletic Club, both have the same points and they will try to win.

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December 26, 2022, 01:48:26 PM
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It looks like Barcelona's appeal of a three-game suspension for Lewandowski has been finally dismissed. He will have to miss all three games, including the away game against Atlético. If Atlético doesn't fail again or something extraordinary happens, I think that Barcelona will score a maximum of one point in this game. If Real don't lose points, then we will again see equality in the first two places in the standings.
Previously, what problem did Lewandowski have that caused him to be suspended for 3 matches? I haven't heard any news about him today. The away match against Atletico Madrid will certainly be a crucial match considering that Barcelona must win this match if Real Madrid does not want to shift its position at the top of the standings.
That's because he insulted the referee, he showed a bad gesture in the match against Osasuna Lewandowski got a red card, made him suspended not play against Espanyol, Atletico Madrid and Real Betis. Lewandowski absence maybe it won't have a big impact because Barcelona still have Ansu Fati Raphinha Dembele, although lewandowski has been a goal machine so far for Barcelona.
I just checked that it was last month's game against Osasuna and it's true that Lewandowski got a red card. I can't understand why Lewandowski did this even though he is an important player for Barcelona and while also being the top scorer for La Liga, but it seems Barcelona doesn't want to bother because of this incident and his replacement on the front lines must have been arranged by Xavi.

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December 26, 2022, 02:00:38 PM
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Indeed, it was blamable Lewandowski's behaviour, and the consequences of his acts will have impact for sure in the next matches played by FC Barcelona. Taking into account their situation (they can't hire new players), they should be more careful with what they do and the implicit dangers.

If you look at the card statistics Lewandoski received, he actually got a red card quite rarely. If I'm not mistaken, he only received 3 red cards during his time as a professional footballer. Even at Bayern Munich it seems that he has never received a Red Card.
If you realize at that time it turned out that not only Lewandowski was expelled, it turned out that Pique was also due to strong protests. Jesus Gil Manzano is notoriously assertive, I read if he has even indeed issued a lot of red cards in the matches he leads.

Yes, it could be that the referee has some kind of predisposition to show the terrible coloured cards. Piqué's behavior was disgusting and totally unnecessary taking into account that it was going to be his last play with the team.

Let's ser how Barcelona plays without Lewandowski. Who knows, maybe they do well in the next games without him.

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December 26, 2022, 02:48:11 PM
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Assuming the weak strength of the opposing team is a big mistake made by a team. Barcelona and Real Madrid will not reduce the tension of their attacks in this match, especially Barcelona who want to maintain their position in first place. On paper, Barcelona can easily score three points from Espanyol, moreover most of Barcelona's main players are filled with players who have strengthened their country in the world cup. Even though Espanyol can make it difficult for Barcelona, the chances for Barcelona to win this match are very large.

After taking a break for more than a month due to the 2022 world cup, this season's La Liga is back on track. El Barca will face Espanyol at Camp Nou, but what is unique in this fight. the absence of Lewandowski, who received a red card, during the match vs Osasuna. We don't have any information regarding Barcelona's appeal regarding Lewandowski's red card. so, most likely Lewandowski will be doubtful to play in the match later. and if Lewandowski must be absent, who will replace Lewandowski. I'm sure Barcelona will find it difficult even though Espanyol is not a difficult team for Barcelona to conquer. Barcelona also have matches against Atletico Madrid and Real Betis, if Lewandowski's sanctions do not get a reduced appeal. certainly, it will be a loss for Xavi's troop squad to maintain the top of the La Liga standings.

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December 26, 2022, 02:57:41 PM
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I think it's clear that they are not really great at getting rid of players that easily. I mean we have seen them keep players, even players that gets high salaries as well for a long time and unfortunately they just can't get rid of them.

I personally believed that Pique should have been gone during the summer and not during middle of the season, Busquets the same way, and plenty others. If they can get rid of these players and not pay them as well, so it is not just firing but mutual agreement, then we could had some decency for sure. In any case, I believe that it will get better next summer, a lot of players gone, and all that opened up salary could be used.

In as much as I wanted Pique gone during the summer, it was a good thing for Barcelona he stayed. Every single Central defender in Barcelona got injured almost the same time. Kounde, Aruajo, Christensen. Only Pique and Garcia were the available CBs left. I think at a point Garcia even got injured.
With Pique gone, it means only Alba and Busquest are the old guard left in the team and Alba is pretty much still very useful. Busquest is also great but if they can get a very good world class DM to replace him then they won't miss him that much when he leaves.

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December 26, 2022, 03:01:28 PM
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In the game with Osasuna, Lewandowski received two yellow cards -> they turned into a red card and he was sent off. When he left the field, he showed a disrespectful gesture towards the referee. The disciplinary committee for this violation gave him three games of disqualification. I would say that Lewandowski acted unprofessionally in this case.
Have official confirming about Robert Lewandowski will absent for three games later after receiving red card when last games against Osasuna before World Cup 2022, reported from sport.es, Lewandowski have absent in three matches later for Barcelona against Espanyol, Atletico Madrid and Getafe.

I don't think have good condition for Barcelona without Robert Lewandowski for three matches later, however he has been top scorer for Barcelona and success scored 13 goals from 14 matches. Left possibility with Memphis Depay get back regular position in three matches later, but depending with Xavi Hernandez will giving him regular position or having another scheme after losing Lewandowski.

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December 26, 2022, 03:26:32 PM
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In the game with Osasuna, Lewandowski received two yellow cards -> they turned into a red card and he was sent off. When he left the field, he showed a disrespectful gesture towards the referee. The disciplinary committee for this violation gave him three games of disqualification. I would say that Lewandowski acted unprofessionally in this case.
Have official confirming about Robert Lewandowski will absent for three games later after receiving red card when last games against Osasuna before World Cup 2022, reported from sport.es, Lewandowski have absent in three matches later for Barcelona against Espanyol, Atletico Madrid and Getafe.

I don't think have good condition for Barcelona without Robert Lewandowski for three matches later, however he has been top scorer for Barcelona and success scored 13 goals from 14 matches. Left possibility with Memphis Depay get back regular position in three matches later, but depending with Xavi Hernandez will giving him regular position or having another scheme after losing Lewandowski.
Lewandowski's absence, indeed, will leave Barcelona somewhat confused.  Lewandowski is a top quality striker.  There is no one like him in current Barca.  But it will depend on Xavi, how he deals with this absence.



I think it's clear that they are not really great at getting rid of players that easily. I mean we have seen them keep players, even players that gets high salaries as well for a long time and unfortunately they just can't get rid of them.

I personally believed that Pique should have been gone during the summer and not during middle of the season, Busquets the same way, and plenty others. If they can get rid of these players and not pay them as well, so it is not just firing but mutual agreement, then we could had some decency for sure. In any case, I believe that it will get better next summer, a lot of players gone, and all that opened up salary could be used.

In as much as I wanted Pique gone during the summer, it was a good thing for Barcelona he stayed. Every single Central defender in Barcelona got injured almost the same time. Kounde, Aruajo, Christensen. Only Pique and Garcia were the available CBs left. I think at a point Garcia even got injured.
With Pique gone, it means only Alba and Busquest are the old guard left in the team and Alba is pretty much still very useful. Busquest is also great but if they can get a very good world class DM to replace him then they won't miss him that much when he leaves.
Everyone has to go at some point.  Maybe he will be released if he gets a good replacement.  However, there are very few chances of getting a player with his quality.


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December 26, 2022, 03:49:52 PM
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Assuming the weak strength of the opposing team is a big mistake made by a team. Barcelona and Real Madrid will not reduce the tension of their attacks in this match, especially Barcelona who want to maintain their position in first place. On paper, Barcelona can easily score three points from Espanyol, moreover most of Barcelona's main players are filled with players who have strengthened their country in the world cup. Even though Espanyol can make it difficult for Barcelona, the chances for Barcelona to win this match are very large.

After taking a break for more than a month due to the 2022 world cup, this season's La Liga is back on track. El Barca will face Espanyol at Camp Nou, but what is unique in this fight. the absence of Lewandowski, who received a red card, during the match vs Osasuna. We don't have any information regarding Barcelona's appeal regarding Lewandowski's red card. so, most likely Lewandowski will be doubtful to play in the match later. and if Lewandowski must be absent, who will replace Lewandowski. I'm sure Barcelona will find it difficult even though Espanyol is not a difficult team for Barcelona to conquer. Barcelona also have matches against Atletico Madrid and Real Betis, if Lewandowski's sanctions do not get a reduced appeal. certainly, it will be a loss for Xavi's troop squad to maintain the top of the La Liga standings.

So, do you think Barcelona doesn't have any other players apart from Lewandowski, so you assume it's difficult for Barcelona to score goals if Lewandowski can't be used? To be honest, I am surprised by your way of thinking like that, because it seems that you only think that Barcelona can only score goals because of Lewandowski, while Barcelona still have other players.
In fact, the Barcelona squad is currently filled with luxury players, of course, even though Lewandowski cannot be played, Xavi will be able to make a good rotation.

Unless this match is a final match to fight for a cup, then of course a player like Lewandowski is really needed in the match. But this is just a match against Espanyol, a team that is currently in the bottom area of the La Liga standings, which of course Barcelona will still be able to score goals and win the match.
What's more, this match will be played at Camp Nou which is a big support for Barcelona to play well, so whether or not Lewandowski is in this match, of course Barcelona will still win.

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December 26, 2022, 03:51:05 PM
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I think it's clear that they are not really great at getting rid of players that easily. I mean we have seen them keep players, even players that gets high salaries as well for a long time and unfortunately they just can't get rid of them.

I personally believed that Pique should have been gone during the summer and not during middle of the season, Busquets the same way, and plenty others. If they can get rid of these players and not pay them as well, so it is not just firing but mutual agreement, then we could had some decency for sure. In any case, I believe that it will get better next summer, a lot of players gone, and all that opened up salary could be used.
first of all barcelona has had financial constraints that have hit them in the past 3 seasons so many barcelona players are in arrears of their payments. well in such a situation it is very difficult for barcelona management to get rid of aging players because if they do this then they have to pay money in advance for the arrears that occur. pique for example where in one of the sports news that I read he has given everything for barcelona in his career but this season he seems to have been sidelined from the barcelona squad and finally he decided to retire.

barcelona must improve their finances to support the team's journey in a better direction and there are no arrears in player salaries that have not been paid.

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December 26, 2022, 04:25:32 PM
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In the game with Osasuna, Lewandowski received two yellow cards -> they turned into a red card and he was sent off. When he left the field, he showed a disrespectful gesture towards the referee. The disciplinary committee for this violation gave him three games of disqualification. I would say that Lewandowski acted unprofessionally in this case.
Have official confirming about Robert Lewandowski will absent for three games later after receiving red card when last games against Osasuna before World Cup 2022, reported from sport.es, Lewandowski have absent in three matches later for Barcelona against Espanyol, Atletico Madrid and Getafe.

I don't think have good condition for Barcelona without Robert Lewandowski for three matches later, however he has been top scorer for Barcelona and success scored 13 goals from 14 matches. Left possibility with Memphis Depay get back regular position in three matches later, but depending with Xavi Hernandez will giving him regular position or having another scheme after losing Lewandowski.
Lewandowski's absence, indeed, will leave Barcelona somewhat confused.  Lewandowski is a top quality striker.  There is no one like him in current Barca.  But it will depend on Xavi, how he deals with this absence.
Lewandowski has scored more goals for Barcelona,  I don't think us absent will be good for Barcelona.  He is this best striker Barcelona depends on. Even when Lewandowski was present Barcelona was not very  confidence about their performance.  It is bad when a player a club rely on is unavailable.
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December 26, 2022, 04:34:02 PM
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In the game with Osasuna, Lewandowski received two yellow cards -> they turned into a red card and he was sent off. When he left the field, he showed a disrespectful gesture towards the referee. The disciplinary committee for this violation gave him three games of disqualification. I would say that Lewandowski acted unprofessionally in this case.
Have official confirming about Robert Lewandowski will absent for three games later after receiving red card when last games against Osasuna before World Cup 2022, reported from sport.es, Lewandowski have absent in three matches later for Barcelona against Espanyol, Atletico Madrid and Getafe.

I don't think have good condition for Barcelona without Robert Lewandowski for three matches later, however he has been top scorer for Barcelona and success scored 13 goals from 14 matches. Left possibility with Memphis Depay get back regular position in three matches later, but depending with Xavi Hernandez will giving him regular position or having another scheme after losing Lewandowski.
Lewandowski's absence, indeed, will leave Barcelona somewhat confused.  Lewandowski is a top quality striker.  There is no one like him in current Barca.  But it will depend on Xavi, how he deals with this absence.
Lewandowski has scored more goals for Barcelona,  I don't think us absent will be good for Barcelona.  He is this best striker Barcelona depends on. Even when Lewandowski was present Barcelona was not very  confidence about their performance.  It is bad when a player a club rely on is unavailable.
Teamwork does not depend on one person.  But everyone has different abilities.  And currently, Lewandowski has the most goalscoring ability among all Barca strikers.


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December 26, 2022, 04:37:12 PM
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first of all barcelona has had financial constraints that have hit them in the past 3 seasons so many barcelona players are in arrears of their payments. well in such a situation it is very difficult for barcelona management to get rid of aging players because if they do this then they have to pay money in advance for the arrears that occur. pique for example where in one of the sports news that I read he has given everything for barcelona in his career but this season he seems to have been sidelined from the barcelona squad and finally he decided to retire.
They had bad ways to use money for player transfers and salary and so far I did not see they have good changes to resolve those problems.

They are still buying players and spent money on transfer market, salary pool for players is still high which are harmful for their finance in long run. Especially their finance is already bad and at a verge of collapse in past seasons. This season looks bad for them too because they failed in Champions League very early and will have to play knock-out matches with Manchester United in Europa League.

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barcelona must improve their finances to support the team's journey in a better direction and there are no arrears in player salaries that have not been paid.
They are not resolving their crisis but are taking more risk by having more big loans. With this risk betting approach, Barcelona positively hope that they will get good results in La Liga and Champions League to improve their finance and gradually clear up their crisis.

Honestly, I can not say I am positively thinking about it but of course best wishes to Barcelona.

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