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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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August 04, 2023, 09:22:10 PM
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How do you compare Real Madrid and Barcelona? Real Madrid is a strong team but they currently lack a striker. On the other hand, the Barcelona team I think Xavi is brilliantly organized. After watching the El Clasico, I understood that the Real Madrid team must work brilliantly in finishing.

Real Madrid lacking a striker would be one of the major limitations leading to them not winning the Spanish League this season. They don't get one before the window ends and they'll see the repercussions of not having a nine.
Joselu on loan is not a player I know, he'll be well accessed when the season does kick off.

Barcelona, are organized and also has Robert Lewandoski who can score thirty goals and smore for them in a season if the right chances are created.They have good midfielder's and also a great defense. I'm so sure of Barcelona defending the Spanish League once again.
Xavi Hernandez has just to make them get a better understanding amongst themselves. They're indeed headed to the right direction.

A signature I'm excited they're achieving is that of Joao Cancelo from Manchester City. He really will fit in well perfectly as a Barcelona player.

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August 04, 2023, 09:28:44 PM
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Griezmann is still a fresh signing for Atletico Madrid and the only way he can leave if one of the saudi teams offers a lot of money. They already wasted a lot so this can still happen. Griezmann isnt that young anymore so this option still isnt off the table. Transfer window in saudi arabia is longer then europe for 3 weeks so still things can happen.

Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent. If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.

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August 04, 2023, 09:36:27 PM
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It should not be forgotten that El Classco is a friendly match. Therefore, it would be wrong to think that Real Madrid suffered a heavy defeat against Barcelona. Almost all the players changed and Barcelona won 3-0 after scoring 2 goals in the last minutes. This is good for them, of course, but I don't know if it's enough for La Liga, which is a long marathon.
Of course it was a friendly game, but basically a game taken seriously. We don't just accept defeat against Barcelona without putting up a good fight, but Real Madrid were really unlucky in that match. Therefore, Ancelotti may need to find a good solution for next season so as not to be beaten by Barcelona again in La Liga matches or other competitions. Barcelona has changed because of Xavi even though they will never win over Real Madrid forever.

La Liga is certainly different from friendly matches, but if you believe in the prestige of the two teams in the match, then really it is like an official match to win 3 points for each team. El Clasico is different from other matches regardless of whether it is a friendly match or an official match.
A friendly match is indeed not a strong benchmark to see the true might of both teams. However, the mentality of the players will also have an effect on in friendly matches because this defeat will make them feel like they are under pressure when they meet again in the official Laliga match next season.

Indeed, from what we have watched, Barcelona impressive game has shown the public that they will be able to defend the title next season. So real madrid must be able to overcome the gap that has become a weak point in their squad depth after the series of negative results they got in friendly matches.

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August 04, 2023, 09:47:08 PM
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Xavi's main focus if Dembele goes to PSG is that he wants to sign a good right-back. Some of the money from the sale of Dembele will go towards fulfilling that wish, so I don't think Xavi would be considering Felix so soon.

So far, news has spread that Barcelona is considering recruiting João Cancelo, who in the end was not made permanent by Bayern Munich. João Cancelo is one Xavi might have in mind as a defender, so it's certainly going to be well worth the effort. If Cancelo really joins Barcelona, ​​then clearly Barcelona seems ready enough to perform well in the Champions League next season.

The right back position has been one heck of a position that Barca haven’t find a better player at since the departure of Dani Alves. Many players like Nelson Semedo, Jerome Frimpong and its likes have all been here and gone. Since the arrival of Xavi he has entrusted that position into the hands of Kunde and Arjauo, both of which are not natural full backs but center backs so no matter how brilliant they play it still leaves holes there. So it will be a good acquisition getting a proper right back this summer.

Jao Cancelo will definitely be a good signing because not only can he play the position perfectly he also doubles as left back sometimes. Also Cancelo adaption will be easy since he is experienced and has been in a team that plays similar football with Xavi’s pattern. It is said that the money received from Dembele’s sale would be used to finance the deal. I also think they need another forward because there is already lack of proper depth there. Although Felix would be too expensive for Barca right they should look elsewhere.


Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent. If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.

Signing permanently now then means he is fresh from it then. I don’t understand how downhill Griezmann career has gone. He forced a move to Barca that we would say are playing tiki taka football that should be suitable for him but it didn’t work out and after two season forced a move back to ATM again and now the complain is still about playing pattern. I would say Griezmann needs to leave Laliga and probably look elsewhere in European football probably back to his home country France maybe he would win some trophies

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August 04, 2023, 09:51:24 PM
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It should not be forgotten that El Classco is a friendly match. Therefore, it would be wrong to think that Real Madrid suffered a heavy defeat against Barcelona. Almost all the players changed and Barcelona won 3-0 after scoring 2 goals in the last minutes. This is good for them, of course, but I don't know if it's enough for La Liga, which is a long marathon.

It is acceptable to compare friendly games to actual games for some reasons. During friendly, some players have their one chance performance that could earn them a spot in the starting eleven for league games. It's quite acceptable for coaches to test numerous players and try out new techniques in order to determine the players' true strengths and talents prior to the actual event. You'll be hoping for a victory or at the at least a tie at the end of a game if your side is able to perform similarly to how they did in the friendly games.

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August 04, 2023, 09:51:40 PM
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Griezmann has been newly signed by Atletico Madrid on a permanent deal. But interestingly there are still rumours like he can join one of Saudi Arabia teams this summer. Considering that he has signed a three-year contract with Atletico Madrid he shouldn't be leaving now already. I think he would stay for one more season at least and then maybe he would decide to earn much more money by joining a Saudi Arabia team. Atletico Madrid really need him now considering his last season effort.

While there is a chance of at least one of Felix and Morata to leave this summer Atletico Madrid should keep Griezmann to keep their scoring skills high.
Griezmann is still a fresh signing for Atletico Madrid and the only way he can leave if one of the saudi teams offers a lot of money. They already wasted a lot so this can still happen. Griezmann isnt that young anymore so this option still isnt off the table. Transfer window in saudi arabia is longer then europe for 3 weeks so still things can happen.
Even though he was one of the recruits last season for Atletico but of course we know that he is a player who can be said to be experienced for Atletico and even Atletico were victorious a few seasons ago because he became one of the great players there.
But indeed for now his performance has decreased and we have seen it especially when he was at Barcelona and his return to Atletico did not necessarily make his performance return to its original form.
Now there is an Arab club that dares to look for him.
What I know about this is that Al Nassr is trying to approach this player especially maybe this happened after Ziyech failed to join but I think with some of the players Al Nassr has brought in this could also be difficult.

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August 04, 2023, 09:52:42 PM
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Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent.
But he is the very same person who did so well under the same coach in his early years at Atlético Madrid until the thought of getting more money fucked up everything, and he ended up in Barcelona. He has never been the same again.

If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.
I guess he will be very happy since more money is there since his current football form is now a shadow of its past  Cheesy

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August 04, 2023, 09:59:16 PM
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Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent. If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.
You are right. Before Griezmann joined Barcelona, he was an Atletico player. But since Griezmann can't shine in Barcelona, Barcelona loan him to Atletico. On July 1, 2023 finally signed him again from Barcelona.

In his best form, Griezmann only played with Atletico Madrid and Barcelona. It is very unfortunate, he failed with Barcelona and only Atletico Madrid wants to sign him. He may be not suitable with Simeone game style, he is actually better to move to another top team. But his failure with Barcelona makes no team interested in sign him.

Moving to Saudi isn't the right option for now. He should play in a competitive league, he is still in a good form.


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August 04, 2023, 10:29:08 PM
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Griezmann is still a fresh signing for Atletico Madrid and the only way he can leave if one of the saudi teams offers a lot of money. They already wasted a lot so this can still happen. Griezmann isnt that young anymore so this option still isnt off the table. Transfer window in saudi arabia is longer then europe for 3 weeks so still things can happen.
It just seem like the Saudi people are trying to raid Europe, they after almost all the good players in Europe because they want to improve their league. They are using money to lure players and since ronaldo joined everyone feel it’s the best move for them. It all up to Athletico Madrid to decide if they are willing to let go of Griezemann because the Saudi people always offer plenty of money and I believe Athletico Madrid will earn more than they invested in Griezmann from the deal.

Indeed, from what we have watched, Barcelona impressive game has shown the public that they will be able to defend the title next season. So real madrid must be able to overcome the gap that has become a weak point in their squad depth after the series of negative results they got in friendly matches.
Barcelona have improved drastically since the arrival of Xavi, they even dominated La liga last season and won the title. I think they can do the same but it maybe a little bit different and more challenging this upcoming season because Real Madrid have made lots of preparations and added new players to the squad. For Barcelona to be able to win they need to add new players also but they seem to be financial problems now. They can challenge well fo the title though.

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August 04, 2023, 10:35:31 PM
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Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent.
But he is the very same person who did so well under the same coach in his early years at Atlético Madrid until the thought of getting more money fucked up everything, and he ended up in Barcelona. He has never been the same again.

If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.
I guess he will be very happy since more money is there since his current football form is now a shadow of its past  Cheesy
Antonio Griezmann's decline in form in recent years is something I don't really know the actual cause.
Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.

I think it'll be better for him to join a Saudi Arabian club this summer if he thinks he can't continue with Atletico

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August 04, 2023, 10:51:48 PM
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Antonio Griezmann's decline in form in recent years is something I don't really know the actual cause.
Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.

I think it'll be better for him to join a Saudi Arabian club this summer if he thinks he can't continue with Atletico
It is possible that Antonio Griezmann is not in his best condition, and maybe he is not focused on football so that it has an impact on the condition of his game on the field, but when you see Antonio Griezmann not scoring in a friendly match, it will be normal because maybe Antonio Griezmann knows that this match is only a practice.

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When La Liga starts, maybe we will see the real performance of Real Madrid, at this time I agree that Ancelotti in friendly matches only tests the feasibility of players and try various experiments. As usual, coaches often do it to try different strategies. Actually you are right, Real Madrid signed Joselu only as a replacement option but if Ancelotti used a 4-3-3 formation maybe Joselu could have played as a centre-forward.
I would prefer to see ancelotti used 3-4-4 scheme instead of another scheme. Joselu needs more time to adapt with its new teammates. It seems like that madrid is still counting on vini in scoring against its opponent. Real madrid can use the opening match as a way to test its performance. There will still be enough time for real madrid to buy the new player before the close of transfer season. Ancelotti shall not force the club to use the current squad if the performance will still be under performance till the opening match of la liga.
Madrid was getting worst result in the pre season match. It will be ashame if the club keeps this performance till the start of the new season. Attacking and defensive lines shall become the main concerns by ancelotti.
Perez already confirmed joselu as the last transfer from madrid but he shall aware if the reality may force madrid to buy more striker and defender.

How do you compare Real Madrid and Barcelona? Real Madrid is a strong team but they currently lack a striker. On the other hand, the Barcelona team I think Xavi is brilliantly organized. After watching the El Clasico, I understood that the Real Madrid team must work brilliantly in finishing.
If we look at the lack of a goal-hungry striker like Karim Benzema, who is also known for his ability to create opportunities for others, it is true that Real Madrid has been falling behind in terms of having a reliable goal-scorer. The team will miss his innovative attacking style. On the other hand, Xavi appears to have Barcelona's players working together effectively. Oshimen, Lautaro Martinez, or Mbappe are three forwards Madrid might look at signing to bolster their offensive threat and offer some element of surprise up front. As was seen in the El Clasico, Madrid's methods were easily predicted and stopped by Barcelona due to the lack of a varied variety of attacking options on the part of Madrid.

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August 04, 2023, 10:55:00 PM
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Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent.
But he is the very same person who did so well under the same coach in his early years at Atlético Madrid until the thought of getting more money fucked up everything, and he ended up in Barcelona. He has never been the same again.

If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.
I guess he will be very happy since more money is there since his current football form is now a shadow of its past  Cheesy
Antonio Griezmann's decline in form in recent years is something I don't really know the actual cause.
Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.

I think it'll be better for him to join a Saudi Arabian club this summer if he thinks he can't continue with Atletico
Antoine griezmann will stay at Atletico Madrid because he is so comfortable with Atletico Madrid. There is indeed news that Al Nassr wants to sign him in this transfer window but most likely Antoine Griezmann will stay more with Atletico Madrid especially since he has become the main choice for Diego Simeone for next season. With good statistics last season, Atletico Madrid certainly doesn't want to lose their stars in this transfer window.

But there is a big possibility that he will accept an offer from Al Nassr to join them because a big salary offer will be difficult for players to refuse especially since he is already 32 years old. But it all depends on his own principles because he is as yet able to make a big contribution to Atlético Madrid, of course the Atlético Madrid management does not want to lose him this season.

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August 04, 2023, 11:03:59 PM
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Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent.
But he is the very same person who did so well under the same coach in his early years at Atlético Madrid until the thought of getting more money fucked up everything, and he ended up in Barcelona. He has never been the same again.
If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.
I guess he will be very happy since more money is there since his current football form is now a shadow of its past.
Antonio Griezmann's decline in form in recent years is something I don't really know the actual cause.
Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.

I think it'll be better for him to join a Saudi Arabian club this summer if he thinks he can't continue with Atletico
Maybe he should move to the MLS. Just watching a replay of Messi scoring his last goal in the 3-1 win of Inter Miami vs Orlando and he is did this club good and the entire league.
Jordi Alba made his debut in this match as they were teammates on Barcelona along time ago and even Sergio Busquets made an appearance in their last game so those two followed him from La Liga to the MLS and are doing alright there.
Maybe Griezmann feels he wants to see if moving to Al Nassr will be better for him going the same route as Ronaldo.

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August 04, 2023, 11:27:20 PM
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Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.

I don't know which Griezmann you watched but the Antoine Griezmann of Atletico was exceptional last season.
Griezmann was even in the La Liga team of the season and was a candidate for the player of the season.

If he feels Saudi is the best decision for him then fine. Atletico need money and they might be happy to sell, but I doubt they would want to lose Griezmann.
Griezmann still wants to stay at Atletico and Atletico still want to keep Griezmann but they might sell him to balance the books if a good offer arrives.

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August 04, 2023, 11:38:57 PM
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Whenever I see the recent matches from Real Madrid I can see and feel the empty place of Benzema in this team because after he left the team they couldn't hire a good striker to fill his place and Real Madrid could have had much better performance in the recent games we saw if they had a striker like Mbappe in their team.
That's why Ancelotti had to put some players to helping the forwards ad attacking like setting Jude Bellingham is a good example of it.

Until now, Ancelotti has still had trouble finding replacement players like Benzema, so this is what makes it difficult for Real Madrid to get a win like what happened when they fought Juventus yesterday. Hopefully, in the upcoming league, Real Madrid will be ready and able to compete with other teams and climb into the top five positions at the top of the standings.
Real Madrid have been playing with Benzema for years and before that they played with a clear center forward and now they are missing that. Real must buy a center back or they will have a lot of problems this year, they are trying to play against the system of the game. Madrid's finishing is dead. This team needs a fully original center forward who can score. Otherwise most attacks are fruitless. Actually, the Mbappe issue might be a bit different, but Real has never played with a Mbappe style player, I'm not sure if he can adapt or not. I think Kane would be better.
The absent of Benzema in Real Madrid can be a serious problem to Real Madrid in next season. Benzema has really played important role for Real Madrid in winning trophies and if their is no good player like him to cover up his spot the club will face a serious challenge.  With Benzema absence in Real Madrid it makes me feel as if Barcelona will have better advantage against Real Madrid in the season. When Benzema was still in the club last season Barcelona was still able to beat Real Madrid in several games. I'm not very alright will the squad of Real Madrid so far.

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August 04, 2023, 11:39:30 PM
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Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.

I don't know which Griezmann you watched but the Antoine Griezmann of Atletico was exceptional last season.
Griezmann was even in the La Liga team of the season and was a candidate for the player of the season.

If he feels Saudi is the best decision for him then fine. Atletico need money and they might be happy to sell, but I doubt they would want to lose Griezmann.
Griezmann still wants to stay at Atletico and Atletico still want to keep Griezmann but they might sell him to balance the books if a good offer arrives.
just like you. I think that after Joao Felix didn't impress, Atletico Madrid will rely more on Griezmann for next season.  Moreover, Joao Felix jersey number has been used by Griezmann so there is no gap for Atletico Madrid to sell Griezmann in this transfer window. But if a fantastic offer comes, it is likely that Atletico Madrid will be ready to lose Griezmann in this transfer window.

Seeing some of the posts above it is very confusing, I mean Griezmann wasn't too bad last season and he even scored a lot of goals last season. So there is a question why Atletico Madrid would want to let go of their best star if they need his contribution next season. maybe they meant joao felix . lol

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August 04, 2023, 11:39:48 PM
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I don't know which Griezmann you watched but the Antoine Griezmann of Atletico was exceptional last season. Griezmann was even in the La Liga team of the season and was a candidate for the player of the season. If he feels Saudi is the best decision for him then fine. Atletico need money and they might be happy to sell, but I doubt they would want to lose Griezmann. Griezmann still wants to stay at Atletico and Atletico still want to keep Griezmann but they might sell him to balance the books if a good offer arrives.
Griezmann's biggest mistake as a footballer began when he left Atletico Madrid, because both the footballer and head coach Diego Simeone were on the same wavelength and solved a joint task very successfully. Griezmann had an exceptional season for Atletico Madrid and I probably watched a different football and championship unlike many commentators here. It's not Griezmann's problem that Atletico Madrid itself at the beginning of the season was something amorphous and characterless, which is surprising considering what kind of spirit Diego Simeone usually instills in his team.
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August 04, 2023, 11:40:26 PM
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Griezmann is still a fresh signing for Atletico Madrid and the only way he can leave if one of the saudi teams offers a lot of money. They already wasted a lot so this can still happen. Griezmann isnt that young anymore so this option still isnt off the table. Transfer window in saudi arabia is longer then europe for 3 weeks so still things can happen.

Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent. If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.


I can't even agree with it. Griezmann has been playing even better compared when he was still in barcelona. Atletico was the best option for him. I saw no better option compared with joining as a permanent transfer in atletico madrid.
I remind you that if barcelona bought him from atletico 120m while the catalan sells him back to the atletico madrid 20m. it's a win situation for atletico madrid. I remember a month ago griezmann got an offer from saudi.

Being a permanent transfer in atletico madrid has become the best choice for him. I don't see a better solution than it.

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August 05, 2023, 04:08:07 AM
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Alvaro Morata has been one of the most rumoured players to leave at Atletico Madrid. The rumours have been coming from everywhere like from European teams to Saudi Arabian teams. But still there is update on that lately. Felix's returning to the team has raised these rumours. Felix is also in these rumours so maybe one of these strikers can really leave before the transfer window closes.

I don't think Felix would be signed permanently considering Atletico Madrid ask too much money for his transfer fee. Maybe he would be loaned again. If he doesn't then I think Morata will be the leaving one. Maybe he would return to Italy if there is still interest from there.
Alvaro Morata's career has been very special so far, it is noted that he has defended top European clubs several times such as Real Madrid, Chelsea, Juventus and in the end he returned to Atletico. I think that at 30 years old, he is actually still quite productive as a striker and if there is an offer to return from Italy, of course it will be interesting for him to be able to return to strengthen one of the teams in that country.

On the other hand, if there is an offer from a Saudi league team, I think that is also quite good considering that so many players of his age choose to end their careers to get a large salary there. Now the decision rests with Alvaro Morata and even if he does eventually leave it will be the umpteenth time at Atletico.

Yes indeed, whatever choice Morata makes I think it will still be a good choice. Because the next decision is Atletico, whether to keep the player or Atletico will decide to sell him. But I think, if Atletico sell him then maybe Atletico can be difficult to compete well in the top four for next season. But yes, because Morata only has one season left on his contract at Atletico. So it is possible that Atletico will sell him in this transfer window of course, so that Atletico will still benefit before Morata finally has a free transfer status at the end of the season.



Losing Alvaro Morata will certainly be detrimental for Atletico, but as long as it's a decision made by the club, Alvaro Morata can't do much. I think Alvaro Morata wants to stay and wants to continue to contribute fully to the team. Even if we look at the statistics last season he scored 13 goals for Atletico in the La Liga competition, isn't that a pretty good number of goals? But indeed it seems that this will not make Atletico quickly satisfied with their performance. Indeed, if Atletico's goal is to sell him this summer then they will still get additional funds to sign the striker they want but if in the end Alvaro Morata stays until next year, then Atletico will have to bite their players' fingers and leave for free.

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