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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
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August 05, 2023, 08:31:03 AM
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Antonio Griezmann's decline in form in recent years is something I don't really know the actual cause.
Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.

I think it'll be better for him to join a Saudi Arabian club this summer if he thinks he can't continue with Atletico
It is possible that Antonio Griezmann is not in his best condition, and maybe he is not focused on football so that it has an impact on the condition of his game on the field, but when you see Antonio Griezmann not scoring in a friendly match, it will be normal because maybe Antonio Griezmann knows that this match is only a practice.
Antonio Griezmann's career I think is quite brilliant and extraordinary when he is not yet 30 years old. But currently, Antonio Griezmann's age is currently 32 years old. And I think for this one player the age factor is really starting to take its toll. Well he's not old. But maybe as we get older, we are already familiar with seeing a decrease in performance in a player. But indeed there are players who are over 30 years old but still play well and are still productive. They are like Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Dan Benzema and several other legendary players. But not all players can follow these legendary players.

Previously, Antonio Griezmann's was brought in by Atletico Madrid as the most expensive player at the club. And he did not let the club down and led Atletico Madrid to several titles. Then Antonio Griezmann's also went to Barcelona with a transfer fee that was also high and well he also performed well there. But then Atletico Madrid brought in Antonio Griezmann's again and well, at that time he was not as young as he used to be. So it's only natural that there is a slight decline from Antonio Griezmann's.

But from my assessment this one player is still worth keeping and his contribution is also very good for the club compared to other players of his age. Even Manchester United were also interested in signing this player. And right now even Arab clubs are approaching this player. It's just that I prefer Antonio Griezmann's to stay at Atletico Madrid. Because for me he is still a pretty productive player. 13 goals in the last 30 matches I think is still very good.

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August 05, 2023, 09:02:57 AM
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Sevilla are a quite interesting team that they can win the Europa League title even when they are having a bad season generally. I really don't know how they can be this successful there even in this kind of situation. There are big candidates to win that title except them as well in the end. But they somehow collect themselves and give their 100% to the tournament.

But despite winning the title in the previous season they still need to improve their La Liga performance on one hand. Because previously they were quite bad and started to get positive results quite late in the season. This team need to be able to play for top 4 as much as possible.

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August 05, 2023, 09:27:01 AM
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Griezmann is still a fresh signing for Atletico Madrid and the only way he can leave if one of the saudi teams offers a lot of money. They already wasted a lot so this can still happen. Griezmann isnt that young anymore so this option still isnt off the table. Transfer window in saudi arabia is longer then europe for 3 weeks so still things can happen.
Diego Simeone, the manager of Atletico Madrid, had disagreements with him that were made open to everyone by keeping him on the bench, but they were resolved. Antoine Grizemann is a challenging player for Atletico Madrid, but he failed to make critical decisions when he was resigned by his former club from Barcelona. He failed to meet the targets and objectives for which he was signed. With present-day transformation, the Frenchman has regained his strength and is fully prepared to lead Colchoneros this season. However, if Saudi Arabia makes a bid for the Frenchman, I believe it is too late for them.

Is not it griezmann already received some offers from saudi arabia clubs a few months ago? I just hear that if people are talking about it now. Griezmann didn't have regular time in barcelona. He decided to leave from there and joined in atletico madrid again.
Griezmann was trying to make sure if he will able to play regularly and he got what he wants. No sense reason for him to leave from atletico madrid.

I hope Griezmann gonna reject an offer from al nassr. The club is still trying to approach him at this moment. It's likely that griezmann is gonna give the final answer as soon as possible.
Im waiting for the news from him. I kinda feel bad if he decides to leave from atletico to join in al nassr.

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August 05, 2023, 09:29:24 AM
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Griezmann was delivering sensational kind of football in his first spell at Atletico Madrid but has failed to deliver kind of football in his second spell.
I don't know which Griezmann you watched but the Antoine Griezmann of Atletico was exceptional last season.
Griezmann was even in the La Liga team of the season and was a candidate for the player of the season.

If he feels Saudi is the best decision for him then fine. Atletico need money and they might be happy to sell, but I doubt they would want to lose Griezmann.
Griezmann still wants to stay at Atletico and Atletico still want to keep Griezmann but they might sell him to balance the books if a good offer arrives.
Most of the time peoples have no idea what are they talking and who they are talking about, but things are going as usual with Antonia Griezmann is surely one of the best striker from France, and he is doing good in Atlético Madrid while he has some ups and downs as well, but his career is still good, and he can do better in next few years even now he is in limelight for possible transfer but most chances he will not go with this and keep his place here in Atlético Madrid which is good side and can do better in this season as well.

Diego Simone needs to change his tactics and strategy which is not allowing them for having aggressive approach and better results because recently his defensive approach is not working, hopefully things will be change and both Antonio Griezmann and Atlético Madrid will be at their best for this season again.

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August 05, 2023, 09:43:07 AM
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Griezmann didn't have regular time in barcelona. He decided to leave from there and joined in atletico madrid again.
Griezmann was trying to make sure if he will able to play regularly and he got what he wants. No sense reason for him to leave from atletico madrid.
If he wants to play football with love and enjoy it, does not care much about money, no reason to leave A Madrid but it's reasonable if he leave A Madrid as I explained my thinking below.

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I hope Griezmann gonna reject an offer from al nassr. The club is still trying to approach him at this moment. It's likely that griezmann is gonna give the final answer as soon as possible.
Im waiting for the news from him. I kinda feel bad if he decides to leave from atletico to join in al nassr.
I am not surprised if he accepts the offer from Al Nassr because I am taking into account his current positions in A Madrid and France. His career recovers in A Madrid but he no longer belongs to best players in Europe. The same in French team as despite of his contributions for the team, the captain arm band was given to Mbappe. Generally Griezman is old too and like Mane, Henderson or Fabinho, nothing is wrong if Griezman takes advantage of last seasons in his career to play in Saudi Arabia and get more money.

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August 05, 2023, 11:54:06 AM
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In fact, even if Mbappe is in the PSG team in the Champions League, I think they will not be able to do anything extraordinary. Because PSG's team structure is so weak, the team's coach is repeatedly failing to organize the team's tactics properly.
on what basis do you say this? or are you just saying without a clear knowledge base?
ok I understand if PSG failed in the champions league last season but that not because of the coach fault but also the consistency between the players is still a little less solid because they only rely on Mbappe and Messi. and also do you know the certainty of the next champion league PSG guarantees if it will fail? not at all right?
we dont know what will happen because there is still a lot of drama at PSG. at once and get the treble winner title.
so do not speculate too early on a team without basis because there will always be surprises every match.

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August 05, 2023, 12:21:42 PM
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Griezmann didn't have regular time in barcelona. He decided to leave from there and joined in atletico madrid again.
Griezmann was trying to make sure if he will able to play regularly and he got what he wants. No sense reason for him to leave from atletico madrid.
If he wants to play football with love and enjoy it, does not care much about money, no reason to leave A Madrid but it's reasonable if he leave A Madrid as I explained my thinking below.

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I hope Griezmann gonna reject an offer from al nassr. The club is still trying to approach him at this moment. It's likely that griezmann is gonna give the final answer as soon as possible.
Im waiting for the news from him. I kinda feel bad if he decides to leave from atletico to join in al nassr.
I am not surprised if he accepts the offer from Al Nassr because I am taking into account his current positions in A Madrid and France. His career recovers in A Madrid but he no longer belongs to best players in Europe. The same in French team as despite of his contributions for the team, the captain arm band was given to Mbappe. Generally Griezman is old too and like Mane, Henderson or Fabinho, nothing is wrong if Griezman takes advantage of last seasons in his career to play in Saudi Arabia and get more money.
Antoine Griezmann who was once one of the finest footballers in Europe currently looks like a shadow of the same footballer we were seeing in Madrid years ago before he joined Barcelona. I thought his return to Atletico Madrid will help him come back to his best but from every visible evidence, Griezmann doesn't look like the player that's gonna deliver the same kind of performance he was known for.
I think accepting to join Saudi Arabian club Al Nassr will definitely be a good move for the Frenchman.

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August 05, 2023, 12:23:56 PM
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I am not surprised if he accepts the offer from Al Nassr because I am taking into account his current positions in A Madrid and France. His career recovers in A Madrid but he no longer belongs to best players in Europe. The same in French team as despite of his contributions for the team, the captain arm band was given to Mbappe. Generally Griezman is old too and like Mane, Henderson or Fabinho, nothing is wrong if Griezman takes advantage of last seasons in his career to play in Saudi Arabia and get more money.
When a player like Griezman begins to see competition in the European arena getting more and more difficult and many young players appear to attract attention, of course for him getting an offer from the Saudi Arabian club makes even more sense. In Europe, Griezman has proven to be the best player, but in the future there is absolutely no guarantee. Now, by looking at the situation and conditions in Europe, which are getting narrower, Griezman has to think realistically because somehow the opportunity to shine again is quite rare. Griezman only needs to make peace with the situation at the club or indeed make a decision to go to the Arab League immediately.

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August 05, 2023, 01:14:04 PM
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Real Madrid need to work things out up front before the new competition starts, they haven't found a quality striker after Benzema left. The negative results obtained in pre-season matches and the decreased number of goals scored by players operating on the front lines required Real Madrid to immediately improve in order to make up for these deficiencies.
If Real Madrid don't immediately solve the problem on the front lines, it will be difficult for them to compete with Barcelona who are increasingly solid on every. Barcelona strength has increased after successfully bringing in players who operate in positions left by players whose contracts expired last season.
Their search for the new striker is going on but sadly right now they are not able to secure Mbappé because they have no enough funds for this transfer even we all understand this transfer can bring big booster for them, and they can go hot favorite for the double again because their quality and performance is impressive but after exit of Karim Benzema they are missing goal's conversation trick which is not filling.

Mostly we were feeling Harry Kane and Kylian Mbappé are under their radar, but sadly both are not in their finances range with no other quality option available which is also a problem. As things are going right now if something special happen then surely this could be one of the best for them but most chances they have to wait for the next season to bring things on their track chances of going into top is hard but still achievable.

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August 05, 2023, 01:34:48 PM
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Karim Benzema means more to Madrid than just being a striker. He might haven't scored too much, but his impact on the team's attack is undeniable. However, there's no player Madrid couldn't replace, especially with the pool of young talent they have. Now they need is a goal-scoring striker who score goals. Though a replacement is possible, but there's a significant gap between a good striker and a truly exceptional one.
During the pre-season tour, Real Madrid is looking quite different and weak side. Of-course just friendly matches, not official ones. As new season around the corner, there's hope and expectation for improvement.
You are right, Karim Benzema was not just a scorer. He has played an important role in the overall performance of the team. He used to support the players. At the same time, Madrid's young players would have been more confident if Benzema was in the squad. They get motivated to perform better. At the same time, if Benzema was in the squad, the bond between the Madrid forward and the midfield would have been stronger. This is why replacing Karim Benzema is not easy. Ancelotti needs to add talented players to the squad, as well as bring about changes in match tactics.
I think it would have been better if Benzema had stayed at Madrid this year. After Benzema left Madrid, Madrid could not find a quality player to replace him. They transferred Joselu, but I don't believe he will fill that void. It could be a very good example for young players.

It would certainly be great for Madrid if Benzema stays with Madrid this season. But Benzema knows very well, if Madrid gets a suitable replacement for Benzema, then Madrid would throw Benzema away. And so Benzema did not take any risk. He has received good offers from Saudi clubs. This is why he is with the club in Saudi Arabia.
It is difficult to find a suitable replacement for Benzema. Joselu is really talented. There is no doubt about it. Because in the last season he was third in the list of goal scorers of La Liga. He is quite talented. However, he may not be able to contribute to Real Madrid's performance like Benzema. However, if he adapts to the Madrid squad, he can contribute to the stability of Madrid's performance.

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August 05, 2023, 01:38:30 PM
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I am not surprised if he accepts the offer from Al Nassr because I am taking into account his current positions in A Madrid and France. His career recovers in A Madrid but he no longer belongs to best players in Europe. The same in French team as despite of his contributions for the team, the captain arm band was given to Mbappe. Generally Griezman is old too and like Mane, Henderson or Fabinho, nothing is wrong if Griezman takes advantage of last seasons in his career to play in Saudi Arabia and get more money.
When a player like Griezman begins to see competition in the European arena getting more and more difficult and many young players appear to attract attention, of course for him getting an offer from the Saudi Arabian club makes even more sense. In Europe, Griezman has proven to be the best player, but in the future there is absolutely no guarantee. Now, by looking at the situation and conditions in Europe, which are getting narrower, Griezman has to think realistically because somehow the opportunity to shine again is quite rare. Griezman only needs to make peace with the situation at the club or indeed make a decision to go to the Arab League immediately.

Yes indeed, and what is very unlucky for Griezmann is also about. It seems that Griezmann has also never felt or experienced winning the La Liga title despite the fact, Griezmann played for Atletico and also Barcelona but until now Griezmann has never felt lifting the La Liga trophy. Thus, it can be assumed that although Griezmann is one of the best players but in reality, Griezmann is not as lucky as other great players who have the highest achievement in winning the La Liga title. Also, Griezmann contract at Atletico is basically still quite long until 2026 and of course, playing at Atletico until his contract expires is not the right decision. Because anyway, if it is true that Griezmann gets an offer to play in the Saudi Pro League, then of course it will be a pretty good career end with a lot of money.

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Last edit: August 05, 2023, 05:21:14 PM by Swordsoffreedom
 #51272

I am not surprised if he accepts the offer from Al Nassr because I am taking into account his current positions in A Madrid and France. His career recovers in A Madrid but he no longer belongs to best players in Europe. The same in French team as despite of his contributions for the team, the captain arm band was given to Mbappe. Generally Griezman is old too and like Mane, Henderson or Fabinho, nothing is wrong if Griezman takes advantage of last seasons in his career to play in Saudi Arabia and get more money.
When a player like Griezman begins to see competition in the European arena getting more and more difficult and many young players appear to attract attention, of course for him getting an offer from the Saudi Arabian club makes even more sense. In Europe, Griezman has proven to be the best player, but in the future there is absolutely no guarantee. Now, by looking at the situation and conditions in Europe, which are getting narrower, Griezman has to think realistically because somehow the opportunity to shine again is quite rare. Griezman only needs to make peace with the situation at the club or indeed make a decision to go to the Arab League immediately.

Yes, Griezmann is something like talented player, but you know he is not a someone like regular scorer. I can see he still managed to pull 15 goals in La Liga previous season with Atletico Madrid, also 38 appearances in La Liga. I have to say that he really played decent enough but if you look at his age he is currently near around 33 years old.

So I have to agree that he has played really well with Atletico Madrid, But I have doubts about his ability for playing with bigger club in the future. And so if Griezmann gets an offer of big wages from a Saudi club, I think he should go to Saudi.  He can earn a lot of money from Saudi clubs. It is really good that at 33 years old Griezmann's fitness is quite smooth, so I think he can easily play 2/3 more seasons in La Liga.

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August 05, 2023, 01:51:42 PM
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I am not surprised if he accepts the offer from Al Nassr because I am taking into account his current positions in A Madrid and France. His career recovers in A Madrid but he no longer belongs to best players in Europe. The same in French team as despite of his contributions for the team, the captain arm band was given to Mbappe. Generally Griezman is old too and like Mane, Henderson or Fabinho, nothing is wrong if Griezman takes advantage of last seasons in his career to play in Saudi Arabia and get more money.
When a player like Griezman begins to see competition in the European arena getting more and more difficult and many young players appear to attract attention, of course for him getting an offer from the Saudi Arabian club makes even more sense. In Europe, Griezman has proven to be the best player, but in the future there is absolutely no guarantee. Now, by looking at the situation and conditions in Europe, which are getting narrower, Griezman has to think realistically because somehow the opportunity to shine again is quite rare. Griezman only needs to make peace with the situation at the club or indeed make a decision to go to the Arab League immediately.

Yes indeed, and what is very unlucky for Griezmann is also about. It seems that Griezmann has also never felt or experienced winning the La Liga title despite the fact, Griezmann played for Atletico and also Barcelona but until now Griezmann has never felt lifting the La Liga trophy. Thus, it can be assumed that although Griezmann is one of the best players but in reality, Griezmann is not as lucky as other great players who have the highest achievement in winning the La Liga title. Also, Griezmann contract at Atletico is basically still quite long until 2026 and of course, playing at Atletico until his contract expires is not the right decision. Because anyway, if it is true that Griezmann gets an offer to play in the Saudi Pro League, then of course it will be a pretty good career end with a lot of money.
Currently the best teams in La Liga are Barcelona and Real Madrid. But comparatively Barcelona team is ahead in great form. On the other hand, Benzema's place in the Real Madrid team is looking great.

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August 05, 2023, 02:05:03 PM
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Real Madrid need to work things out up front before the new competition starts, they haven't found a quality striker after Benzema left. The negative results obtained in pre-season matches and the decreased number of goals scored by players operating on the front lines required Real Madrid to immediately improve in order to make up for these deficiencies.
If Real Madrid don't immediately solve the problem on the front lines, it will be difficult for them to compete with Barcelona who are increasingly solid on every. Barcelona strength has increased after successfully bringing in players who operate in positions left by players whose contracts expired last season.

Seriously, I was expecting Real Madrid to sign Mbbape or one smart striker that will replace Benzema before the next season starts, but currently, I don't think they have the intention to sign any new striker because they're not currently talking about bringing any striker before their domestic league starts. If we have to check their preseason performances, Real Madrid have nothing left except that striking power, because despite their efforts to play good football by always controlling the pitch in preseason games, their scoring abilities are seriously weak. Let's use the Juventus match as an example, where Real Madrid are almost eight short on target but are only able to score one goal, which is really a bad, weak front line. So with all the defeats in preseason, I expected Real Madrid to do something about signing a new striker.

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August 05, 2023, 02:44:57 PM
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Currently the best teams in La Liga are Barcelona and Real Madrid. But comparatively Barcelona team is ahead in great form. On the other hand, Benzema's place in the Real Madrid team is looking great.
Barcelona only got back to good last season because Real Madrid wasn't so consistent in winning matches, whereas previous seasons Barcelona didn't look as good as last season. So in general Barcelona are just trying to look good and that was what Barcelona managed to get last season, but for next season Barcelona still has to fight hard to be able to look even better because Real Madrid will also try to be better in La Liga and so also at UCL.
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August 05, 2023, 02:56:05 PM
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Barcelona only got back to good last season because Real Madrid wasn't so consistent in winning matches, whereas previous seasons Barcelona didn't look as good as last season. So in general Barcelona are just trying to look good and that was what Barcelona managed to get last season, but for next season Barcelona still has to fight hard to be able to look even better because Real Madrid will also try to be better in La Liga and so also at UCL.
I agree with your opinion, so it's true that the rivalry of the two best teams from La Liga next season will be eagerly awaited. Real Madrid have lost their best striker to the Arab Pro League, so they will have problems to sort out if they are to win the title next season. While Barcelona has a many strikers, so I don't really think about their performance dropping despite losing Dembele to PSG.

The competition between Barcelona and Real Madrid will be highly anticipated because Real Madrid has yet to find a striker to replace Benzema. Although Real Madrid have signed Joselu so far, he does not appear to be the right answer to replace Benzema well. So I think next season is a good opportunity for Lewandowski if he still wants to maintain his top scoring streak in La Liga.

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August 05, 2023, 03:15:09 PM
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The competition between Barcelona and Real Madrid will be highly anticipated because Real Madrid has yet to find a striker to replace Benzema. Although Real Madrid have signed Joselu so far, he does not appear to be the right answer to replace Benzema well. So I think next season is a good opportunity for Lewandowski if he still wants to maintain his top scoring streak in La Liga.
Joselu to substitute Benzema then statistically will be much different. Especially when compared to Lewandowski as opposed to rivals from Barcelona but we never know how Joselu on the pitch with Real Madrid at least he can see as a striker who has to replace Benzema and it is not an easy task for Joselu but I hope he finds the best way with Real Madrid.

I know that Real Madrid will not be coming for another striker unless they wait for Mbappe to come next season, so maybe that will be the next priority even though Mbappe is not the right one in the central striker position.

So the two great La Liga teams Barcelona and Real Madrid will be very competitive again in La Liga, especially the Champions League.

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August 05, 2023, 03:22:46 PM
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Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent.
But he is the very same person who did so well under the same coach in his early years at Atlético Madrid until the thought of getting more money fucked up everything, and he ended up in Barcelona. He has never been the same again.

If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.
I guess he will be very happy since more money is there since his current football form is now a shadow of its past  Cheesy

But at the World Cup, Griezmann was consistently the best/one of the best in the French team (not the weakest team in the tournament  Roll Eyes ). I don't think the money ruined him, rather the wrong team for him. It seems to me that Atlético will continue to degrade and it is unlikely that he will be able to resist this trend. And by the way, judging by the scandal over the captaincy in the French national team, Griezmann is interested not only in money - he still has sports ambitions. If he was only interested in money, he would have endured the appointment of Mbappe and not got involved in a scandal from which it was impossible to emerge victorious.

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August 05, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
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Currently the best teams in La Liga are Barcelona and Real Madrid. But comparatively Barcelona team is ahead in great form. On the other hand, Benzema's place in the Real Madrid team is looking great.

Carlo Ancelotti may change his game plan. After Benzema left the team, they didn't look for a center forward to replace Benzema. In truth, they don't have many alternatives to make such a transfer, but they haven't even looked for any. As for the Mbappe transfer, which is often claimed in the press, they have always pointed to next season. It's a really interesting situation. I think they will make a surprise and transfer Mbappe to Real Madrid this summer transfer window. According to the current situation, I think they will either make a tactical change or they will make a sudden move and transfer Mbappe.

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August 05, 2023, 03:41:23 PM
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Carlo Ancelotti may change his game plan. After Benzema left the team, they didn't look for a center forward to replace Benzema. In truth, they don't have many alternatives to make such a transfer, but they haven't even looked for any. As for the Mbappe transfer, which is often claimed in the press, they have always pointed to next season. It's a really interesting situation. I think they will make a surprise and transfer Mbappe to Real Madrid this summer transfer window. According to the current situation, I think they will either make a tactical change or they will make a sudden move and transfer Mbappe.
After Benzema departure, Real Madrid sign Joselu as center forward and possibility for Carlo Ancelotti change scheme if Joselu underperform, still has Rodrygo will move as center forward but depend with Joselu performance will answer public expectation for replacing Karim Benzema position or not. Current performance in pre season match, I don't see Joselu has quit well perform and he still needs time for adapting with Carlo Ancelotti scheme. If can't sign Mbappe in this summer transfer window, Real Madrid must signing new center forward for partner or competitor to Joselu because on center forward Real Madrid has one option only right now.

Have bad rumor with Mbappe transfer, PSG have been report to UEFA about illegal transfer from Real Madrid reached personal verbal agreement with Mbappe will join on next transfer window as free agent.

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