La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[entertheabyss]

But the point is, if Barcelona can accept bad results or be patient with the long process, then maybe it will make the team better, especially in financial terms.

Finance is one of the top heading tributes that keep a club reluctant and dormant for years. Perhaps some of these clubs survive them quickly but some suffered from them in years and what leads to the imbalance in team's budgets is unplanned and poor decisions.

Barcelona have suffered enough already these past years. It's been rough for them and I must say, Barcelona are completely held to limitations. The president, Joan Laporta have been I active service and there's probably everything to worry about for the club following the devastating debts. The board reassured the fans about finding solutions to pay up and fixed this particular problem that have been holding the club down for years. They have to start thinking of competing in major tournaments and winning top cups inother to make enormous profits and also from the sales of their players.

[W Jr.]

Do you want him to reduce his salary because of the condition of the team? Not all players can do that. They will have gotten a good pay like this elsewhere but decided to stay here and play for them despite their financial condition which can affect their own performance also because if there are no good players to play alongside them, they’ll all fail as a team and won’t make them happy to do better next time and be looking for means to leave the club. Barcelona needs to fix their financial crisis to be in a better position for any competition they’re participating in, the claim shouldn’t be put on any player collecting big pay or not.

So why is Frankie de Jong still not for sale? If you really want to fix the financial crisis, of course something has to be sacrificed. I think it is realistic to sell de Jong, who with his sale can provide some relief to improve the team by utilizing the sales proceeds to buy players who are desired but whose prices are still affordable. They want Nico Williams now because many rumors say that if they want to bring in Williams, Barcelona will receive FFP sanctions. Lewandowski is old, ideal to be replaced by a younger generation and suitable to be paired with Yamal. This is a consequence that Barcelona must take in order to avoid sanctions and increasingly messy finances. Totally improving finances is not a good solution, and Barcelona will not be able to do it other than improving little by little.

If Barcelona cannot get rid of the financial gap, they will have to sell some players. Frankie De Jong may be one of them. Lewandowski can contribute a lot to them, but his economic obligations are too much. The contract price is too high. Maybe they can sell him to Saudi Arabia this year, of course, if Lewandowski wants to. I think they should bring Williams to the team to be better in the Spanish league.

[EL MOHA]

That’s something I think should be looked into by FIFA at some point, the salary and cost of a player although, this has been some worth regulated in the amount a team can spend in the transfers but, over again, you find teams seeking loopholes and cutting corners to archive their goal of getting what player and under certain conditions.
Not like situations in the society have helped much but, the cost of a player could be capped as, every transfer season, it often seems like teams are in the rush to hype the cost of a player who only turns out to deliver on few occasions.

I think the amount that a club would pay to a single player can not be restricted to certain amounts as we all know that player’s importance to the club varies and this is part of what determines the amount to be paid to each player. The only rules that is ok to restrict clubs from over paying some players is the restriction on the total amount a club can spend over a cause period and it is already in effective. Barcelona had already made mistakes of giving some players way too much wage and need to either sale now or wait for the player’s departure.

[Zlantann]

That’s something I think should be looked into by FIFA at some point, the salary and cost of a player although, this has been some worth regulated in the amount a team can spend in the transfers but, over again, you find teams seeking loopholes and cutting corners to archive their goal of getting what player and under certain conditions.
Not like situations in the society have helped much but, the cost of a player could be capped as, every transfer season, it often seems like teams are in the rush to hype the cost of a player who only turns out to deliver on few occasions.

Such financial regulatory laws exist but it is not handled by FIFA. Uefa's Financial Fair Play regulations were established to ensure that clubs don't spend more than what they earn and they are mandated to balance their books every three years. The main challenge in implementing this law is the presence of wealthy club owners who use personal funds to invest in players. The FFF regulations will always be bypassed because clubs are always desperate to sign good players.

Having restrictions that mandate you not to spend more than what you generate could be seen as having a benchmark (capping). We know that some players are exceptional and they are worth more than others. It was the likes of Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour that inflated the players' transfer market and today we have players whose buyout clause is half a billion dollars. I think UEFA should step up the implementation of the FFF rules to enable poorly funded clubs to also participate in the transfer market.

[Smartvirus]

Having restrictions that mandate you not to spend more than what you generate could be seen as having a benchmark (capping). We know that some players are exceptional and they are worth more than others. It was the likes of Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour that inflated the players' transfer market and today we have players whose buyout clause is half a billion dollars. I think UEFA should step up the implementation of the FFF rules to enable poorly funded clubs to also participate in the transfer market.

Uefa, yeah. This rule to transfers and clubs having to spend about a budget is supposed to help a lot as in most cases, this mid tier teams don’t get the chance yo have elite players in their ranks to enable them be more competitive in their respective leagues and international competitions.
We have exceptional players quite alright but, the consistent rise in price of a player is something else. Every transfer season, the previous price often seems undervalued and they want more and more. You kind of hope this could explode some day but, I guess the need for trophies by clubs calls for this but, when the expectation is on the reverse, you can find players being at the end of it.

[red4slash]

If Barcelona cannot get rid of the financial gap, they will have to sell some players. Frankie De Jong may be one of them. Lewandowski can contribute a lot to them, but his economic obligations are too much. The contract price is too high. Maybe they can sell him to Saudi Arabia this year, of course, if Lewandowski wants to. I think they should bring Williams to the team to be better in the Spanish league.

That's Barcelona's problem. They've always found it difficult to get players out and it seems like they're more willing to let their players leave on free transfers than they are to sell their players when it could be a means of making their financial situation better.

It is undeniable that their players also make them strong in terms of performance and can compete for trophies but in the end what Barcelona need now besides trophies is their financial stability.
We can see that last season they were quite difficult to find new players and even for this season there must be donations from fans to bring one player like Nico Williams which of course this is clearly a heartbreaking for a big club.  But Barcelona management always thinks that their condition is fine even though if you look at the current situation they seem to be just waiting before they are completely destroyed because of financial mistakes that they cannot solve.

[Lida93]

Do you want him to reduce his salary because of the condition of the team? Not all players can do that. They will have gotten a good pay like this elsewhere but decided to stay here and play for them despite their financial condition which can affect their own performance also because if there are no good players to play alongside them, they’ll all fail as a team and won’t make them happy to do better next time and be looking for means to leave the club. Barcelona needs to fix their financial crisis to be in a better position for any competition they’re participating in, the claim shouldn’t be put on any player collecting big pay or not.

So why is Frankie de Jong still not for sale? If you really want to fix the financial crisis, of course something has to be sacrificed. I think it is realistic to sell de Jong, who with his sale can provide some relief to improve the team by utilizing the sales proceeds to buy players who are desired but whose prices are still affordable. They want Nico Williams now because many rumors say that if they want to bring in Williams, Barcelona will receive FFP sanctions. Lewandowski is old, ideal to be replaced by a younger generation and suitable to be paired with Yamal. This is a consequence that Barcelona must take in order to avoid sanctions and increasingly messy finances. Totally improving finances is not a good solution, and Barcelona will not be able to do it other than improving little by little.

All of what you have recommended as a possible alternative solution that Barcelona can undertake to ameliorate their financial problem do sound good on paper but not that simple to apply it practical, as am sure the experts in the club would have swing into making this happen if it was going to work or give the best possible result to the club. Because bringing in Nico Williams with the aim of pairing with Lamine Yamal doesn't make the Barcelona team invisible on the pitch for next season. They shouldn't due to one young boy that looks promising to the club sell out their experience players.

[indah rezqi]

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So why is Frankie de Jong still not for sale? If you really want to fix the financial crisis, of course something has to be sacrificed. I think it is realistic to sell de Jong, who with his sale can provide some relief to improve the team by utilizing the sales proceeds to buy players who are desired but whose prices are still affordable. They want Nico Williams now because many rumors say that if they want to bring in Williams, Barcelona will receive FFP sanctions. Lewandowski is old, ideal to be replaced by a younger generation and suitable to be paired with Yamal. This is a consequence that Barcelona must take in order to avoid sanctions and increasingly messy finances. Totally improving finances is not a good solution, and Barcelona will not be able to do it other than improving little by little.

If Barcelona cannot get rid of the financial gap, they will have to sell some players. Frankie De Jong may be one of them. Lewandowski can contribute a lot to them, but his economic obligations are too much. The contract price is too high. Maybe they can sell him to Saudi Arabia this year, of course, if Lewandowski wants to. I think they should bring Williams to the team to be better in the Spanish league.

Barcelona efforts to build squad depth will be hampered if they have to deal with FFP regulations, management and club officials must act carefully in the transfer window so as not to receive sanctions later. Barcelona finances were really tested, the problems they faced were very complex, and it was proven that what Xavi said was completely true. If circumstances require Barcelona to sacrifice a number of key players, then that path must be taken and Hansi Flick must let them go. Bringing in Nico Williams is not easy in a critical financial situation, they do not have to force their will because it is not certain that Nico Williams will be able to meet expectations.

Gradually Barcelona will definitely be able to get out of the financial crisis, fans have to be patient with the process that will take place, because everything takes time. To minimize the risk of more serious difficulties, it would be better for Hansi Flick to start his first season campaign by relying on young players. We know that the step could affect Barcelona chances of winning trophies, but the club is not burdened with huge salary outlays. Apart from all that, Madrid existence, which currently has an ideal squad, will be difficult to match, even though Barcelona was finally able to complete the transfer of Nico Williams.

[Leviathan.007]

Ronald Araújo is falling in Barcelona and he is not in a good situation at all. Ronald Araújo was famous in this team and he was a good player even the fans of Barcelona wanted to see him in the team for a longer time but after the mistake, he had against PSG, they asked the team to put Ronald Araújo for sale and since he had some offers he started thinking about these offers while he still wanted to stay.
Now he is injured hardly and he will be out for four months which is a long time and this means he is going to miss the training and the start of the next season.
 

 

[TelolettOm]

So why is Frankie de Jong still not for sale? If you really want to fix the financial crisis, of course something has to be sacrificed. I think it is realistic to sell de Jong, who with his sale can provide some relief to improve the team by utilizing the sales proceeds to buy players who are desired but whose prices are still affordable.

I am also a bit confused with Barcelona management. There are 2 players with highest salaries in Barcelona, Frankie de Jong and Robert Lewandowski. I think these players deserve to put on transfer list if Barcelona really wants to reduce their allocation for players' salaries. Barcelona also can get good amount of money by selling them to other teams. The performance of these players in the last season was no longer very impressive. Why don't Barcelona gets a new striker with cheaper salary? I think they don't need to look for the replacement for De Jong because Barcelona has enough midfielders.

Barcelona players salaries: https://www.capology.com/club/barcelona/salaries/

They want Nico Williams now because many rumors say that if they want to bring in Williams, Barcelona will receive FFP sanctions. Lewandowski is old, ideal to be replaced by a younger generation and suitable to be paired with Yamal. This is a consequence that Barcelona must take in order to avoid sanctions and increasingly messy finances. Totally improving finances is not a good solution, and Barcelona will not be able to do it other than improving little by little.

Yes, Barcelona is linked Nico Williams. The latest rumor stated that Barcelona management is very close to sign him. However, with the issue of FFP sanction, I think there is no way that Barcelona can sign Nico Williams. I can agree with FFP because it is too risky for the players if Barcelona won't fix their financial problem first. One of the solution to fix the financial problem is selling the players with high salaries. And Barcelona also need to sell the unnecessary players who just came from a loan spell last season.

[Josefjix]

I think the amount that a club would pay to a single player can not be restricted to certain amounts as we all know that player’s importance to the club varies and this is part of what determines the amount to be paid to each player. The only rules that is ok to restrict clubs from over paying some players is the restriction on the total amount a club can spend over a cause period and it is already in effective. Barcelona had already made mistakes of giving some players way too much wage and need to either sale now or wait for the player’s departure.

There are players that earns substantial amount in a club based on their status in football. Let’s take in the scenario of Cristiano Ronaldo and Leo Messi, these players are from another planet when it comes to performance on the pitch and effectiveness contributions to their perspective clubs, they’ve been outstanding in all ramifications and consider the very best players in the history of football. No doubts, they deserved this huge salary because they worked extremely hard for it and their performance and stats portray it all.

A single player can be earning as huge as stipends compared to three players combined because he’s big name in the team, football have grown pass this level and it’s decided based on the structure of the clubs when it comes to wages equilibrium. You don’t expect Barcelona that’s experiencing finance crisis to be doubling twice the amount of player’s salaries, the team’s president,Joan Laporta tirelessly working for the improvement of the club. He doesn’t hold back because this is absolutely the right time to tackled down these standout problems that have facing the club.

[asriloni]

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It's so sad that even a big team like Barcelona can't even afford to sign Nico Williams, how about Mbappe? it's impossible for them to sign Mbappe, they might only able to buy Mbappe's hair lol.

Yes, this is very sad, I must say, I also think that something is broken.
The problem is also the investments made with Xavi which have not returned and consequently the team is in a greater crisis.
Certainly the salaries and costs of the players influence the crisis of modern teams.
Poor management does further damage. In my opinion..

That’s something I think should be looked into by FIFA at some point, the salary and cost of a player although, this has been some worth regulated in the amount a team can spend in the transfers but, over again, you find teams seeking loopholes and cutting corners to archive their goal of getting what player and under certain conditions.
Not like situations in the society have helped much but, the cost of a player could be capped as, every transfer season, it often seems like teams are in the rush to hype the cost of a player who only turns out to deliver on few occasions.

FIFA? You meant UEFA, right? La Liga has Financial Fair Play, and UEFA has FSR rules. These rules already say how much a team can spend in a season. A La Liga team can spend 50% of its revenue on player transfers. UEFA set their limit at 70% for a team can spend it on player and coach wages, transfers, and agent fees.

But the main problem still Barcelona itself. Barcelona has bad financial management. It was the main reason they struggled. This is because Barcelona never try to be efficient with player transfers. They keep recording more and more losses on their balance sheet.

It's impossible to limit the player's price. This is because it depends on the club that owns the player's contract. How can UEFA value the importance of player for the club, without the club itself who can value their player?

[barisbilgili]

Ronald Araújo is falling in Barcelona and he is not in a good situation at all. Ronald Araújo was famous in this team and he was a good player even the fans of Barcelona wanted to see him in the team for a longer time but after the mistake, he had against PSG, they asked the team to put Ronald Araújo for sale and since he had some offers he started thinking about these offers while he still wanted to stay.
Now he is injured hardly and he will be out for four months which is a long time and this means he is going to miss the training and the start of the next season.
 

 

Initially Ronald Araújo was on the Barcelona team's sales list and that will most likely happen because Barcelona needs money to bring in other players, but unfortunately now he is injured, this is really a big loss for Barcelona and also for Ronald Araújo.
There is no longer any possibility for Ronald Araújo other than he has to get back up after recovering from his injury later and the big loss also covers the Barcelona team with all the shortcomings they currently have, in fact they have to lose another one of their players in a period of 4 months or more.

[Farma]

That’s something I think should be looked into by FIFA at some point, the salary and cost of a player although, this has been some worth regulated in the amount a team can spend in the transfers but, over again, you find teams seeking loopholes and cutting corners to archive their goal of getting what player and under certain conditions.
Not like situations in the society have helped much but, the cost of a player could be capped as, every transfer season, it often seems like teams are in the rush to hype the cost of a player who only turns out to deliver on few occasions.

I think the amount that a club would pay to a single player can not be restricted to certain amounts as we all know that player’s importance to the club varies and this is part of what determines the amount to be paid to each player. The only rules that is ok to restrict clubs from over paying some players is the restriction on the total amount a club can spend over a cause period and it is already in effective. Barcelona had already made mistakes of giving some players way too much wage and need to either sale now or wait for the player’s departure.

Barcelona pushed too hard to recruit Williams even though they knew their finances were difficult and to restore it all, at least they didn't need to shop first, it was better for them to use the existing players Flick also understands the conditions the club is currently experiencing, as well as their desire to recruit Williams this is also not entirely Flick's wish, but it is all Laporta's wish, even though if you look at the squad that Barca currently has, it is already very good, they just need to develop and advance several of their academies so they can continue to progress because Barca is a club that is successful in producing young players.

In my opinion, Barca must trust Flick completely so that in the next few days he can decide if there are several players who are not suitable for him, then sell them and then decide to buy new players.

[Smartvirus]

FIFA? You meant UEFA, right? La Liga has Financial Fair Play, and UEFA has FSR rules. These rules already say how much a team can spend in a season. A La Liga team can spend 50% of its revenue on player transfers. UEFA set their limit at 70% for a team can spend it on player and coach wages, transfers, and agent fees.

It's impossible to limit the player's price. This is because it depends on the club that owns the player's contract. How can UEFA value the importance of player for the club, without the club itself who can value their player?

Yeah, Uefa.

Given the fact that, the club who owns the sort out for players contract gets to value the player makes it very difficult to come to terms with offering a player for transfer about a price range but, I can imagine where they could come to terms with a particular inflation ratio or % as in the budget in retrospect to what the player was bought for. A loophole might arise here in terms of groomed academy players but, the wages paid to such player could be used in the equation. Am just trying to give a perspective about this because, it really does affect some teams. In the end, it’s a thing of choice and management as, you’ve got choices you could go for than an expensive player.

[mamesso]

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If Barcelona cannot get rid of the financial gap, they will have to sell some players. Frankie De Jong may be one of them. Lewandowski can contribute a lot to them, but his economic obligations are too much. The contract price is too high. Maybe they can sell him to Saudi Arabia this year, of course, if Lewandowski wants to. I think they should bring Williams to the team to be better in the Spanish league.

Selling De Jong and Lewandowski is not a bad idea, these two players still have a high selling value, especially De Jong, who has attracted the interest of several elite European clubs. The money obtained can be used to bring in William and indirectly the club's expenses will be reduced because these two players have higher salaries than other players. Barcelona can still rely on Vitor Roque as a replacement for Lewandowski, while in De Jong's position there is no need to worry because they still have several quality midfielders.

The trio of William, Yamal and Roque are not too bad to start the new season, they still have support from other quality players such as Gundogan, Pedri and Gavi. Ferran Torres could also be a good choice for Hansi Flick, he needs the coach's trust to develop his talent. Of the list of names remaining if Barcelona sells De Jong and Lewandowski, Barcelona strength will not decrease, but it all depends on Hansi Flick how he manages the team.

[mammusu]

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If Barcelona cannot get rid of the financial gap, they will have to sell some players. Frankie De Jong may be one of them. Lewandowski can contribute a lot to them, but his economic obligations are too much. The contract price is too high. Maybe they can sell him to Saudi Arabia this year, of course, if Lewandowski wants to. I think they should bring Williams to the team to be better in the Spanish league.

Selling De Jong and Lewandowski is not a bad idea, these two players still have a high selling value, especially De Jong, who has attracted the interest of several elite European clubs. The money obtained can be used to bring in William and indirectly the club's expenses will be reduced because these two players have higher salaries than other players. Barcelona can still rely on Vitor Roque as a replacement for Lewandowski, while in De Jong's position there is no need to worry because they still have several quality midfielders.

The trio of William, Yamal and Roque are not too bad to start the new season, they still have support from other quality players such as Gundogan, Pedri and Gavi. Ferran Torres could also be a good choice for Hansi Flick, he needs the coach's trust to develop his talent. Of the list of names remaining if Barcelona sells De Jong and Lewandowski, Barcelona strength will not decrease, but it all depends on Hansi Flick how he manages the team.

Previously Barcelona had made a lot of salary cuts for the players they had, but this did not make their financial condition stable at the moment because the problems were too bad, but even so, the option of selling star players could be an alternative for Barcelona if they wanted to have better finances at the moment, currently, selling Lewandowski and Frankie De Jong will at least be able to generate a lot of money for their income, apart from that, at least Barcelona can overcome the high salary burden by releasing these the two players.
Lewandowski and Frankie De Jong are still targets for many teams to recruit, so It won't be difficult for Barcelona to sell him in the near future, besides, have several Arab teams been interested in recruiting Lewandowski, allowing Barcelona to set a high price from these Arab teams?
If Barcelona sells Lewandowski and Frankie De Jong, Barcelona is expected to get 85 million euros from the both.

[Republikcoin.com]

Selling De Jong and Lewandowski is not a bad idea, these two players still have a high selling value, especially De Jong, who has attracted the interest of several elite European clubs. The money obtained can be used to bring in William and indirectly the club's expenses will be reduced because these two players have higher salaries than other players. Barcelona can still rely on Vitor Roque as a replacement for Lewandowski, while in De Jong's position there is no need to worry because they still have several quality midfielders.

That might be a wise enough option for Barcelona, ​​but is the Barcelona team thinking about that now? Because if this is what the Barcelona team is thinking about, of course they themselves will never remain silent and will immediately move to make this happen. But if Barcelona can bring in William without having to sell these two players, I think this option is also very good because experienced players like De Jong and Lewandowski can still be relied on by Barcelona next season with different levels of quality.

[Frankolala]

Do you want him to reduce his salary because of the condition of the team? Not all players can do that. They will have gotten a good pay like this elsewhere but decided to stay here and play for them despite their financial condition which can affect their own performance also because if there are no good players to play alongside them, they’ll all fail as a team and won’t make them happy to do better next time and be looking for means to leave the club. Barcelona needs to fix their financial crisis to be in a better position for any competition they’re participating in, the claim shouldn’t be put on any player collecting big pay or not.

So why is Frankie de Jong still not for sale? If you really want to fix the financial crisis, of course something has to be sacrificed. I think it is realistic to sell de Jong, who with his sale can provide some relief to improve the team by utilizing the sales proceeds to buy players who are desired but whose prices are still affordable. They want Nico Williams now because many rumors say that if they want to bring in Williams, Barcelona will receive FFP sanctions. Lewandowski is old, ideal to be replaced by a younger generation and suitable to be paired with Yamal. This is a consequence that Barcelona must take in order to avoid sanctions and increasingly messy finances. Totally improving finances is not a good solution, and Barcelona will not be able to do it other than improving little by little.

If Barcelona cannot get rid of the financial gap, they will have to sell some players. Frankie De Jong may be one of them. Lewandowski can contribute a lot to them, but his economic obligations are too much. The contract price is too high. Maybe they can sell him to Saudi Arabia this year, of course, if Lewandowski wants to. I think they should bring Williams to the team to be better in the Spanish league.

I agree with you that Lewandowski should be sold to Saudi because he has declined in form and is receiving a huge amount of money that can be used to buy a new player and put the rest in the club purse. Financial management is very important in business otherwise, you will be financially down due to wrong financial decisions.

De Jong is still very vibrant and active, the club needs him and selling him might leave a loop hole in the club so I will not support the idea of selling him, only if they have seen a proper replacement for him. Barcelona currently needs financial breakthrough.

[rendravolt]

Ronald Araújo is falling in Barcelona and he is not in a good situation at all. Ronald Araújo was famous in this team and he was a good player even the fans of Barcelona wanted to see him in the team for a longer time but after the mistake, he had against PSG, they asked the team to put Ronald Araújo for sale and since he had some offers he started thinking about these offers while he still wanted to stay.
Now he is injured hardly and he will be out for four months which is a long time and this means he is going to miss the training and the start of the next season.
 

 

Sometimes these fanatical fans are always looking for a scapegoat for the defeat of their favorite team and I'm sorry about what happened to Ronald Araujo. In fact, despite Barcelona's defeat against PSG in the Champions League, overall Ronald Araujo is an important player who is irreplaceable and fans only hate him with one mistake out of the many good things he has done for the club.

The very long process of recovering from his injury has also made Barcelona weak in defense and this is quite worrying. What would happen if Barcelona often lost points when facing their opponents and with that, Real Madrid could once again stand alone without any competitors. However, I hope that will not happen to maintain the excitement of the competition for the title and Hansi Flick will likely maximize the depth of his squad to cover that gap.