La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2024/25

[hyudien]

It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, ​​there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

[Rockstarguy]

It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, ​​there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

I just know he will do better in Manchester City than when he was in Barcelona, his coming to Manchester City will be of advantage to his career.  I think the decision of coming back to Manchester City is a good one and he will play a good in role for Manchester City because he is a good player,  Manchester City already have a coach that can bring more potentials from him. I just hope Barcelona don't regret his leaving to Manchester City. Barcelona really needs to sit up this season because it will be so disappointing if Barcelona ends the season just like they did in last season.

[Ahli38]

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

What is clear is that Barcelona is in quite a hurry to release several players in order to register Dani Olmo in their squad. So Barcelona is selling players who will likely find interest quickly enough. And coincidentally Gundogan was not included in Hansi Flick's plans. So he will be released. And yes, that was lucky for Gundogan. Because actually I think Manchester City would be much better for Gundogan than staying at Barcelona. Because Manchester city is much more stable in every way. And actually at first I thought that Manchester City would not be interested in returning to this player because Manchester City looked fine. But last season, when De Bruyne was still injured, it was quite clear that Manchester City still needed a player like Gundogan.

[Adams0001]

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

What is clear is that Barcelona is in quite a hurry to release several players in order to register Dani Olmo in their squad. So Barcelona is selling players who will likely find interest quickly enough. And coincidentally Gundogan was not included in Hansi Flick's plans. So he will be released. And yes, that was lucky for Gundogan. Because actually I think Manchester City would be much better for Gundogan than staying at Barcelona. Because Manchester city is much more stable in every way. And actually at first I thought that Manchester City would not be interested in returning to this player because Manchester City looked fine. But last season, when De Bruyne was still injured, it was quite clear that Manchester City still needed a player like Gundogan.

Barcelona is no longer interested in him, which is why he was released to Manchester City, but Guadiola is still interested in him and has welcomed him back to the team. Barcelona don't know who will help them, but it is a good decision for leaving Gundogan to leave because they but Olmo and they don't have enough money, definitely they will like to sign some players to get funds, and if Gundogan did not leave Barcelona, he won't get enough time that Xavi is giving him in the club, they have changed coach and he will make his on lineup that he will like and favour him this season.

Gundogan will go and playing in Manchester City but I think he won't still play like before is already growing old and is performance is getting down and am not loving him anymore since he came to Barcelona. Barcelona's roster is performing well this season, and if they continue to win games, they will win the league and have enough finances to recruit new players again. Because I don't think Real Madrid will perform like last this season.

[RockBell]

I just know he will do better in Manchester City than when he was in Barcelona, his coming to Manchester City will be of advantage to his career.  I think the decision of coming back to Manchester City is a good one and he will play a good in role for Manchester City because he is a good player,  Manchester City already have a coach that can bring more potentials from him. I just hope Barcelona don't regret his leaving to Manchester City. Barcelona really needs to sit up this season because it will be so disappointing if Barcelona ends the season just like they did in last season.

Every player that comes to Manchester City should know what they are coming their for and they must have something to offer the club because with the kind of name that Manchester City have made name for them self and you seen the way Manchester City is always playing you as a player their will just do everything possible to offer something your self. Club matters a lot for players and it will be better for him to play for the city than for Barcelona because productivity matters a lot and if the club is not productive enough it will affect the performance of the players and that is part of the reasons that mbappe decided to go to Real Madrid for the benefit of his own career. Him been a good player, good back to Manchester City will just make him feel better and Reignite The fire in him the once he as wasting when he was in Barcelona now is a better opportunity now to do better, just wondering on the kind of plans that Barcelona are making to perform all this season. They keep encountering challenges.

[Furious 7]

In essence, Real Madrid lost balance in midfield due to Tony Kross retirement, so the front line players moved erratically. Coach Ancelotti job now is to immediately fix the format of his players. I think Vinicius and Mbappe need to share a place whether they like it or not because so far Mbappe looks uncomfortable in a central position that is not his specialty. The La Liga season has just started, Ancelotti has enough time to fix the format rather than forcing the Vinicius-Mbappe-Rodrygo formation which clashes with each other and eventually cannot find their best game, unless Mbappe and Vinicius can understand each other.  

But in the end it is not an obstacle for Madrid, it is true that they will still feel the loss because until now no one will be able to replace Kross in midfield,
especially in the accuracy of passing, but at this time they also still have a lot of talented young players who can be used as options and a new attacking style for the midfield of Madrid .

For the current attacking problem Mbappe only has to adapt to his new position and I'm pretty sure he can do that because after all with the solidity of the midfield and attack on both sides I think this will make it easier for Mbappe later.  We have to wait for this adaptation and if you've forgotten Benzema was also criticized before finding his prime in Madrid and even considered unfit to be in Madrid because of the difficulty of adapting as a targetman but in the end he was able to do it and I'm sure Mbappe can also do well after adapting to the new position in Madrid goes well .

[Josefjix]

I just know he will do better in Manchester City than when he was in Barcelona, his coming to Manchester City will be of advantage to his career.  I think the decision of coming back to Manchester City is a good one and he will play a good in role for Manchester City because he is a good player,  Manchester City already have a coach that can bring more potentials from him. I just hope Barcelona don't regret his leaving to Manchester City. Barcelona really needs to sit up this season because it will be so disappointing if Barcelona ends the season just like they did in last season.

Barcelona messed up big time by allowing IIkay Gundogan leave the club as a free agent. He terminated his contract for reasons best known to him and will always have a room to explore options. Manchester City will always have edge over their oppositions in the English Premier League because it's definitely a long competitive run for them. Manchester City coach, Pep Guardiola will reinstate the retired Germany international. He will play key role in the midfield of Manchester City this season.

[Weawant]

It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, ​​there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.

What is even more surprising is that not only will he leave with free transfer status according to the contract termination agreement, but Gundogan will also not receive a salary for the remaining two years of his contract, isn't this crazy, man? I didn't expect a club to be cruel to a player who has had such a long career in this sport and Barcelona has really shown an arrogant attitude of not caring and that is a reflection of their true nature at this time.

This is such a heavy one for gundogan to bear but then I believe he's going bro have a good career at Manchester city, in Barcelona he wasn't a bad player so most likely he's not going to be that bad either in Manchester city, it will only take a very short time and he will be back solid on his career again it was a really bad and cruel act Barcelona did exercise against him, for a player who had done so much for the team,  I was expecting more from them, this fills like literal striping him of all his benefits he was supposed to get which was supposed to come with his contract.

[Richbased]

It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, ​​there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

Very big blessing honestly because he has nothing to lose at Barcelona and Manchester City will still welcome him very well and he stands a chance of earning better Salary and there is no need to even argue between him and De Jong who Barcelona would have sold because i believe that since IIkay Gundogan will be moving out of the club now they will know his worth and importance to the team so no need even making a comparison between him and De Jong.

Barcelona resulting to selling players to cut down salaries of players is really very ridiculous as this is the height of what making wrong financial decisions results to so they should deal with it

[ginsan]

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

Even though iIkay Gundogan is still physically strong enough to play with Barcelona until the end of his contract, financial problems made Barcelona act inappropriately by releasing him for free. In fact, many experts think that Barcelona has made a blunder in their decision. I think Manchester City is quite lucky to have Gundogan back because we have seen the quality he has which is capable of making something different when he is on the pitch.

It is true that Manchester City did not have problems with their stability when Gundogan left, but still Gundogan joining Manchester City again will make them much stronger this season. Pep knows he still needs Gundogan and is the right choice for Pep in the decision he makes. In his performance statistics with Barcelona, ​​Gundogan performed well, playing 36 matches and scoring 5 goals.

[Ryu_Ar1]

It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, ​​there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

Yep, this is a way that is actually not wise if it should be appreciated considering they do everything including throwing players so that Dani Olmo enters the squad because seeing from the situation that occurred in this case we must be aware that this condition occurred because they had difficulty registering Dani Olmo for the squad because it was overloaded for FFP so they tried to do methods like this so that their stability was not disturbed, especially for salary problems when Dani Olmo was registered as a player

Dirty tricks like this they can do so be prepared for some other players to be the next victims especially when the transfer season starts and Barcelona brings back players.

Honestly for this season Barcelona is a funny club that in my opinion is full of surprises with the drama they provide lol

[promise444c5]

It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, ​​there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

Lol.. why do you think Barcelona should sell  De jong over Ilkay Gundogan ?? Not saying  Gundogan isn't a good player to be retained infact I prefer him to stay  than leaving if the Barcelona can afford to keep him  but I don't think they have choice which is why they are selling him. However, after De Jong  had  injury  & Pedri was battling with frequent injury it was obvious that the midfield grow weaker and not even as obvious when Gavi had Injury again... De jong is more like barca strength backed with Pedri and Gavi it will take a while to get players to replace these players especially at their current  financial stage which is why I think Barca wouldn't be risking them even when they had injury.

[Egii Nna]

Lol.. why do you think Barcelona should sell  De jong over Ilkay Gundogan ?? Not saying  Gundogan isn't a good player to be retained infact I prefer him to stay  than leaving if the Barcelona can afford to keep him  but I don't think they have choice which is why they are selling him. However, after De Jong  had  injury  & Pedri was battling with frequent injury it was obvious that the midfield grow weaker and not even as obvious when Gavi had Injury again... De jong is more like barca strength backed with Pedri and Gavi it will take a while to get players to replace these players especially at their current  financial stage which is why I think Barca wouldn't be risking them even when they had injury.

Barcelona are actually facing a higher financial issue right now that is affecting their team even though it can do a lot of damage to them more than what they think, but since they can’t afford other new players that will hold the midfield for them, I also think the best they need to do is utilise those that they already have, even if they do get injured due to the game, but I hope they will be able to be something for the team this season because for now they are not in a better condition than last season, but there is a possibility they might try more than last season or less than last season due to the conditions of the team and their performance. 

[EL MOHA]

Lol.. why do you think Barcelona should sell  De jong over Ilkay Gundogan ?? Not saying  Gundogan isn't a good player to be retained infact I prefer him to stay  than leaving if the Barcelona can afford to keep him  but I don't think they have choice which is why they are selling him. However, after De Jong  had  injury  & Pedri was battling with frequent injury it was obvious that the midfield grow weaker and not even as obvious when Gavi had Injury again... De jong is more like barca strength backed with Pedri and Gavi it will take a while to get players to replace these players especially at their current  financial stage which is why I think Barca wouldn't be risking them even when they had injury.

Sometimes it is not about the players you intend to sell but when in crises like the way Barcelona is you will just have to make some decisions and this is certainly one of them, first if I agree with post you quoted that De Jong should be the first on that rather than anyone, reason been that he is the highest paid player in the league which is certainly not a very good thing for Barcelona financially now, with Barcelona finding it difficult to register players I think his wage load would have been better used elsewhere since he is even rarely available.

Although I don’t blame the decision of the Barcelona board at the moment to actually let Gundogan go because Gundogan wanted out and he already has just a year left so the decision was already a easy one to make, they wouldn’t want to lose De Jong for free and no club currently want to buy an injured player a high amount and still pay that high wages

[GiftedMAN]

It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, ​​there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.

I just know he will do better in Manchester City than when he was in Barcelona, his coming to Manchester City will be of advantage to his career.  I think the decision of coming back to Manchester City is a good one and he will play a good in role for Manchester City because he is a good player,  Manchester City already have a coach that can bring more potentials from him. I just hope Barcelona don't regret his leaving to Manchester City. Barcelona really needs to sit up this season because it will be so disappointing if Barcelona ends the season just like they did in last season.

The player in question is a former Manchester City player who Pep Guardiola allowed to move to Barcelona after he has won all the trophies with the Manchester City team before joining Barcelona so I think Manchester City resigned him because of the potential in him because he is a very experienced player who has helped the Manchester City team during his stay in the club.

FC Barcelona is already facing a lot as a result of their financial crisis I believe they allowed Gundogan to move back to his former club Manchester City because of some financial matters. Gundogan is going to have a better season in Manchester City then Barcelona because with the current squad in the Barcelona team right now I don't think the team is strong enough to challenge Real Madrid in the league likewise in the champions league.

[TelolettOm]

What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, ​​​​instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. S

He is no longer young, but with a free transfer, it is worth it for Man City to take back their former captain. He is an experienced midfielder, with potential and experience that is a good friend at Man City, with Rodri and de Bruyne. Man City is his home. Welcome back again. At least, he can retire at his beloved club, with a contract until 2025.

Conor Gallagher becomes Atletico Madrid's fourth major of the transfer window, finally completing his move from Chelsea on Wednesday.

five-year contract, good sign again for Atletico Madrid. I got this most likely lineup of Atletico Madrid with Gallagher. Will it be much stringer again? Next week, they will play against Girona.

Source: Atletico Madrid could lineup

[Rustam Meraj]

The player in question is a former Manchester City player who Pep Guardiola allowed to move to Barcelona after he has won all the trophies with the Manchester City team before joining Barcelona so I think Manchester City resigned him because of the potential in him because he is a very experienced player who has helped the Manchester City team during his stay in the club.

FC Barcelona is already facing a lot as a result of their financial crisis I believe they allowed Gundogan to move back to his former club Manchester City because of some financial matters. Gundogan is going to have a better season in Manchester City then Barcelona because with the current squad in the Barcelona team right now I don't think the team is strong enough to challenge Real Madrid in the league likewise in the champions league.

I think Manchester City signed him again because he is experienced and talented. Pep Guardiola let him go to Barcelona before because he had already won everything with Manchester City. Now Barcelona is having money problems so they probably could not keep him. I believe Gundogan will do better with Manchester City because their team is stronger and can compete with top teams like Real Madrid. Barcelona team is not strong enough to win big titles so Manchester City is better choice for Gundogan to succeed.

[asriloni]

The player in question is a former Manchester City player who Pep Guardiola allowed to move to Barcelona after he has won all the trophies with the Manchester City team before joining Barcelona so I think Manchester City resigned him because of the potential in him because he is a very experienced player who has helped the Manchester City team during his stay in the club.

FC Barcelona is already facing a lot as a result of their financial crisis I believe they allowed Gundogan to move back to his former club Manchester City because of some financial matters. Gundogan is going to have a better season in Manchester City then Barcelona because with the current squad in the Barcelona team right now I don't think the team is strong enough to challenge Real Madrid in the league likewise in the champions league.

I think Manchester City signed him again because he is experienced and talented. Pep Guardiola let him go to Barcelona before because he had already won everything with Manchester City. Now Barcelona is having money problems so they probably could not keep him. I believe Gundogan will do better with Manchester City because their team is stronger and can compete with top teams like Real Madrid. Barcelona team is not strong enough to win big titles so Manchester City is better choice for Gundogan to succeed.

Gundogan's trophy with City.



That's probably one of the reasons why City signed him back from Barcelona. And also, i think the main reason is probably related to the decision of Barcelona to let him go for free. Moreover, Barcelona can't register Olmo without reducing their wages. Parting ways with Gundogan helped them a lot. And it gives Olmo a chance to play in the main squad as Barcelona will be able to register him in La Liga.

And with the come of Gundogan to City, he is strengthening Manchester City's midfield. He can unlock his potential back under Pep. And it seems we are going to see prime City with  Gundogan paired with KDB in City's midfield.

All in all, it's a win win situation for City, Barcelona and Gundogan.

[Solokan]

Honestly, this is a form of insult to a player's achievements and Gundogan really doesn't deserve this kind of treatment. Barcelona is the worst team so far in dealing with their players' problems and this is proof that they are unable to provide the right solution so that everything can run side by side. Again, what caused this all was because there were some greedy players who didn't want to leave and chose to stay no matter what.

That's Barcelona, ​​a poor club that has lost its way in terms of management. So every decision is always detrimental but for me it doesn't matter because Gundogan departure will actually be positive news for other clubs in La Liga. We know Gundogan role is very important in the midfield which is able to be a balancer and leader but unfortunately Barcelona is Barcelona  you know
Moreover, Gundogan returns to Manchester City and will make The Citizen stronger, more solid, and more unstoppable. After all Gundogan is still very productive, I am happy that Gundogan is back in the right hands rather than at a club that doesn't know how to utilize great players.

I personally also didn't expect that in Barcelona's first Laliga match against Valencia, Gundogan's name wasn't there and to be honest, I was also surprised, even though of course Gundogan, in my opinion, is really needed by Barcelona, ​​but in this case I personally don't know or understand the reason why Gundogan was removed from Barcelona's list of players, but If I'm not mistaken, I once read that Gundogan was very frustrated because he was dropped at Barcelona. but I heard news that he could potentially play at Manchester City and Pep Guardiola is reportedly open to plans for Gundogan to return to Manchester City.

Yes, if you think about it, with Gundogan's return to Manchester City, of course he is in a place that will definitely make Gundogan comfortable and according to reports he has agreed to a contract with Manchester City until 2025 without a transfer fee, so we'll see what happens with his fate. Gundogan. Yes, there is no doubt that if Gundogan joins Manchester City again, Manchester City will certainly be stronger and the squad will definitely be better.

Yes, I also hope that Gundogan can win a trophy with Manchester City this season and it seems like him joining back to Manchester City is the best way for him.

[tusandii]

The player in question is a former Manchester City player who Pep Guardiola allowed to move to Barcelona after he has won all the trophies with the Manchester City team before joining Barcelona so I think Manchester City resigned him because of the potential in him because he is a very experienced player who has helped the Manchester City team during his stay in the club.

FC Barcelona is already facing a lot as a result of their financial crisis I believe they allowed Gundogan to move back to his former club Manchester City because of some financial matters. Gundogan is going to have a better season in Manchester City then Barcelona because with the current squad in the Barcelona team right now I don't think the team is strong enough to challenge Real Madrid in the league likewise in the champions league.

I think Manchester City signed him again because he is experienced and talented. Pep Guardiola let him go to Barcelona before because he had already won everything with Manchester City. Now Barcelona is having money problems so they probably could not keep him. I believe Gundogan will do better with Manchester City because their team is stronger and can compete with top teams like Real Madrid. Barcelona team is not strong enough to win big titles so Manchester City is better choice for Gundogan to succeed.

Yes indeed Gundogan will be more valuable with Man City but the problem seems Man City will only take a 1 season contract and this is an unanswered question at this time whether Man City only values ​​the player or Man City actually needs Gundogan's contribution again.
From my thinking it seems Man City will only test Gundogan's contribution to see if he still has a great passion to defend the club to get a prestigious title like a few seasons ago.
Because this season Man City must compete in the champions league which currently has to compete with Real Madrid who has a new striker player and on the other hand Man City is a favorite in the champions league and it seems that is the reason Gundogan was accepted again at Man City.