La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2025/26

[rahmad2nd]

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This match will be our concern and it must be admitted Barcelona has played well so far but we must also remember that Barcelona played away and we also know that recently Barcelona was defeated by Osasuna while playing away well, this makes me doubt that Barcelona can play optimally in this match. On the other hand, Real Madrid is completely reliable while playing at home as you said Real Madrid has ambitions to catch up and if Real Madrid win then they will have the same points.

For this time I will on Real Madrid side because I think they have a better chance than all sides. Before this match, Barcelona will play in the Champions League against a strong team like Bayern Munich well this fight will drain their concentration and stamina so it will have an impact on the next fight (El Clasico) I did not underestimate Barcelona but this situation was not on their side.

Of course, the match against Osasuna cannot be used as a reference, especially in that match Flick did not play his full core players. Several young defenders were played to overcome the match in the Champions League at that time, but the results were far from expectations. Like now, after hosting Bayern, Barca visited Santiago Bernabeu, Madrid's headquarters. The difference is, Flick will definitely play his full core players in two different matches. What is certain is that Flick will prepare his team to play optimally. Especially with Madrid, which acts as the home team. They will be more free to play at home, full points will be their target when hosting Barcelona. Based on the betting exchange, Real Madrid is more favored than Barcelona. Of course, besides playing at Santiago Bernabeu, it can be said that Barca will be drained of energy first in the Champions League match against Bayern Munich. But what is certain is that the El Clasico match will present a fierce match even though Madrid is favored. Moreover, Barca has a chance to defeat El Real even though they are playing away. Before that, let's just watch these two teams compete in the Champions League competition.

[lixer]

Barcelona retains their top spot in the La Liga table after thrashing Sevilla 5:1 yesterday. Their performance this season is significantly improved from last season. Barcelona has come out strong in La Liga, with Lewandowski consistently scoring goals. Although he narrowly missed a hat trick against Sevilla, he scoring prowess is thrilling to watch.

Given Barcelona's impressive form, they have a strong chance of lifting the trophy this season.

Barcelona's chances of winning the title are wide open this season if they continue to perform consistently and lead the standings and they also need to be careful because Real Madrid is following behind them if Barcelona slips then Real Madrid will take over the top of the standings therefore Barcelona must not lose points before they widen the gap with Real Madrid when Real Madrid loses some points.
I see Barcelona this season is stronger than last season even Lewandowski is back to his best version by creating many goals even now Lewandowski leads the list of top scorers with 12 goals from 10 matches he played while Kylian Mbappe has been left behind by 6 goals.

Before start of the season we have some serious hype about their performance and quality but after end of the 10 rounds things are going well under control, and we have amazing stuff from them Robert Lewandowski is giving his best while he is currently at the top of league table scorers Yamal and few other young players are also giving their best which keeping them at the top of league table with just 1 defeat which against Osasuna in 8th round.

Now in 11th round we have the biggest match of soccer world El Clásico which will make things clear about both title fighters Barcelona and Real Madrid because if we have won for the Real Madrid which is possible then we will be good fight till end but if we have won for the Barcelona under Hansi Flick this could be huge success, and they could be clear at the top for long time even they could have good hold on trophy as well.

[ndutndut]

Barcelona retains their top spot in the La Liga table after thrashing Sevilla 5:1 yesterday. Their performance this season is significantly improved from last season. Barcelona has come out strong in La Liga, with Lewandowski consistently scoring goals. Although he narrowly missed a hat trick against Sevilla, he scoring prowess is thrilling to watch.

Given Barcelona's impressive form, they have a strong chance of lifting the trophy this season.

Barcelona after winning against Sevilla will certainly increase their confidence in facing El Clasico next week, this victory also strengthens their position at the top of the standings.

Barcelona's success so far cannot be separated from the success of Hansi Flick because he managed to turn Barcelona into a very sharp and dangerous team this season. Almost the entire front line was polished by him, made more fluid. The players complement each other and work well together, they know when to run, fill space, stand at the far post, release diagonal passes, and so on. Which makes players like Raphinha, Yamal, Lewy, etc. always on fire in every match.

In addition, under Flick's tutelage, Barcelona's game has changed a lot. One of the things that has made them good so far is that their midfielders don't hold the ball for too long, all of them are enthusiastic about pressing. Unlike last season where there were players who really liked to hold the ball for too long and were lazy to defend. However, under Flick's tutelage everything has changed, so it is very natural that many predict that this season they have the potential to win the Laliga trophy.

[MAAManda]

Barcelona wants to take back its throne, I noticed since the last 3 seasons the 2 giants (Barcelona and Real Madrid) continue to want to prove their dominance in the league. 2021/22 Real Madrid won the league, 2022/23 it was Barcelona's turn, 2023/24 Real Madrid won it back, and this time it might be Barcelona's turn again.

Barcelona's performances last season were poor and erratic. But since the beginning of this season, with the help of Hansi Flick, Barcelona's players have been performing brilliantly. Barcelona have held the top spot in the table since the start of the season. Barcelona won 9 out of 10 matches. Barcelona have only lost against Osasuna. And Barcelona lost this match due to not having Yamal and Raphinha in the starting XI.

Barcelona played great against Sevilla in yesterday's match. The Barcelona team won by a big margin of 5-1. We have seen Barcelona's dominance since the beginning of the match. Lewandowski scored 2 goals and Pablo Torre scored 2 goals in this match.

True, they have done their best since the start of the league, getting a losing record is not that bad, even Real Madrid who have never lost can only be below Barcelona in the standings. Barcelona lost 3 points while Real Madrid lost 6 points from the 3 draws they got. The upcoming El Clasico will be a deciding factor for both teams.

[dezoel]

Your words are exactly what I think about Valencia. No matter how bad Valencia is, they usually won't enter the relegation zone and suffer as many defeats as they did at the start of this season. I really would find it hard to believe if Valencia couldn't recover from all these bad results. And I think it would be a big surprise if Valencia were relegated. But this season can still be said to be in its early stages. so there is still plenty of time for Valencia to improve their performance and get out of the relegation zone immediately and away from it. Because if not, it would be very sad to see Valencia at the bottom of the standings like now until the end.

Valencia FC is one of the clubs which have rich history in La Liga mostly they were staying into middle of the league club and also have strong chances for their participation into European competitions, but recently they are down and out the competition in last four season they have bottom of league table and things are going the worst day by day. Now in this season, we have just 3 draws and 1 win which give them bottom of league table and chances are high for them to stay here until they fix their problems in attack even their defense is decent which giving them decent performance.

When we add his Champions League performance, we see that he has 12 goals and 1 assist in 14 games. Lewandowski is getting younger like Benjamin Button. He is 36 years old but he has already achieved a great statistic this season. Next season he will enter the last year of his contract with Barcelona. At 37, being Barcelona's striker will be an extraordinary achievement for him. He is one of the players who has had the lion's share of Barcelona's success this season...

Robert Lewandowski who is going to turn 37 at the end of this season still have contract with Barcelona till end of 2026 which is blessing for this club which is facing too many problems in last few years because still he is on his best with performance and quality currently after 10 rounds he score 12 goals clearly ahead from Mbappé and Villarreal Perez both score 6 goals each. As he is performing if we have no injury or other problem then most chances we will have him at the top of La Liga scorers with another golden boat and another amazing season even there were rumours about his early departure but now most chances he will keep here until end of 2026.

[Altryist]

Before start of the season we have some serious hype about their performance and quality but after end of the 10 rounds things are going well under control, and we have amazing stuff from them Robert Lewandowski is giving his best while he is currently at the top of league table scorers Yamal and few other young players are also giving their best which keeping them at the top of league table with just 1 defeat which against Osasuna in 8th round.

Now in 11th round we have the biggest match of soccer world El Clásico which will make things clear about both title fighters Barcelona and Real Madrid because if we have won for the Real Madrid which is possible then we will be good fight till end but if we have won for the Barcelona under Hansi Flick this could be huge success, and they could be clear at the top for long time even they could have good hold on trophy as well.

Before the start of the season, most people preferred Real, and this is understandable, Barcelona was at the stage of changing the coach, they did without new transfers, a little later Olmo joined them, so there were no great hopes for Barcelona's success. But Flick brought a good mood to the team, and Real started the season not in the best shape, they also often faced injuries, and this allowed Barcelona to take the lead.

[Ndabagi01]

This match will also be a battle between the two coaches because 2-3 days before El Clasico both Barcelona and Real Madrid will compete in the Champions League and have to face strong opponents (Barcelona will face Bayern Munich, while Madrid will host Borussia Dortmund). I guess both coaches will likely be bothered with the squad rotation.

Borussia Dortmund and Bayern Munich are big opponents for both of them to face and comparing their current form in the league, they look to stand a chance for the champions league games to win it. Barcelona and Real Madrid match in the La Liga will still remain a very big match and it will be very hard to predict who will get the chance to win it. They may have their different form and performance now in the league but this match will be a new format and new approach tactical match for each team, so it will be very hard to predict.

Barcelona retains their top spot in the La Liga table after thrashing Sevilla 5:1 yesterday. Their performance this season is significantly improved from last season. Barcelona has come out strong in La Liga, with Lewandowski consistently scoring goals. Although he narrowly missed a hat trick against Sevilla, he scoring prowess is thrilling to watch.

Given Barcelona's impressive form, they have a strong chance of lifting the trophy this season.

Let’s wait and see what happens but with their current form, it shows that they are very much looking the best to win the La Liga title. Sevilla thrashing was another sign that the Barcelona team are in their best form now and are doing their best to see themself maintaining that first position to the end of the league. The league is not even halfway yet, but if they don’t lose this form and continue like this, they will be the winner of the La Liga title for the second time in succession. Barcelona and Real Madrid will still be the two top teams for the league title but their individual performance will speak well how far they can go and who stands the chance to win the title.

[Leviathan.007]

In my environment, there are already many people planning to bet on the match between these two big teams later. Fans of each team are favoring their favorite team, and they don't forget to plan to make traditional bets in the form of money, I myself saw them chatting with a little debate which was indeed nothing more than a joke, it was quite exciting. Therefore, I myself will watch this match later because it is indeed a big match in my opinion.
However, previously I thought Barcelona seemed to be more consistent in its performance, because they were leading at the top also with points quite far from Real Madrid, whether they would be shifted by Ancelotti's team or not, but what is clear is that the match between them is quite crowded with football fans in my environment.

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Several years ago when Messi and Ronaldo still playing in Laliga people always be excited to watching this because the atmosphere of El Classico is very heat but after these players leave El Classico is not being to attractive anymore and this match is not more than just ordinary match in Laliga but this match is so important for both teams especially for Real Madrid because if Real Madrid can win from this match they will have same point to Barcelona 27 points especially this match will be helded at Santiago Bernabéu Stadium which Real Madrid home ground so i am sure they don't want to lost in the front of their fans however if i want to bets then personally i will bets for Real Madrid win and i know from recent performance Barcelona is much better than Real Madrid but during train to Ancelotti Real Madrid is became an the team who hard to beated by Barcelona

This El Classico is going to be much harder for Barcelona because they are in the first place in the table and they should try not to lose any points in this match otherwise and if Real Madrid wins this match they can easily get closer to Barcelona and even take the place of Barcelona in the La Liga table soon.
In fact, Barcelona should play wisely and try to even get a draw in this match which can be better for them than just losing everything.
On the other hand, Real Madrid will definitely start playing aggressively.

[execijutiere]

The match between Valencia and Las Palmas was full of goals. The first half ended in a 1-1 draw and Las Palmas started fast in the second half. In the 84th minute, Las Palmas increased the difference to 2 and scored a last minute goal to decide the match. Las Palmas got their first win in the battle of 2 teams in the relegation zone.

[hahay]

Before start of the season we have some serious hype about their performance and quality but after end of the 10 rounds things are going well under control, and we have amazing stuff from them Robert Lewandowski is giving his best while he is currently at the top of league table scorers Yamal and few other young players are also giving their best which keeping them at the top of league table with just 1 defeat which against Osasuna in 8th round.

Now in 11th round we have the biggest match of soccer world El Clásico which will make things clear about both title fighters Barcelona and Real Madrid because if we have won for the Real Madrid which is possible then we will be good fight till end but if we have won for the Barcelona under Hansi Flick this could be huge success, and they could be clear at the top for long time even they could have good hold on trophy as well.

Before the start of the season, most people preferred Real, and this is understandable, Barcelona was at the stage of changing the coach, they did without new transfers, a little later Olmo joined them, so there were no great hopes for Barcelona's success. But Flick brought a good mood to the team, and Real started the season not in the best shape, they also often faced injuries, and this allowed Barcelona to take the lead.

But if for example Real Madrid manages to beat Barcelona in the El Clasico match, in reality Barcelona will still be at the top of the standings because they still have an advantage in the number of goals. But even so, of course it will not make Real Madrid pessimistic because of course, by beating Barcelona will make Real Madrid closer to being able to overtake Barcelona over time. If this home factor for Real Madrid can really make Real Madrid stronger, then that will be the good result for Real Madrid in the El Clasico match.

But unfortunately, I think playing at home will not have a significant impact if for example Real Madrid plays badly. Because indeed, even though Barcelona will play away, it seems that Hansi Flick can keep Barcelona in good performance, at least not losing in the El Clasico match is good enough for Barcelona to maintain its position at the top of the La Liga standings.

[RaltcoinsB]

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Barcelona should merely keep doing well in the league because if they lose or draw versus Madrid, Real Madrid will still have a chance to win the league again, and Ancelotti is playing at home and will not try to lose the game. I still believe Real Madrid will defeat Barcelona this season because Madrid does not understand how to play Barcelona. But this season will be different because, as far as I can tell, Barcelona is doing extremely well and has been dominating the La Liga since the beginning of the season, so I'm not sure how the El Clásico will play out today because, as far as I can tell, Barcelona will perform well on the pitch, but Real Madrid will not agree to lose at home. And all Barcelona players are back in form already. So Ancelotti need to know how to face them in the league this weekend after facing Dortmund today, there next game will be el classico let see how the coach will show there skills in the each other club that they are coaching, I can't wait to watch Barcelona game match against Bayern Munich.

Barcelona and Real Madrid both want to win El Clasico for different reasons. Barcelona wants to move away from Real Madrid's pursuit to 6 points, while Real Madrid wants to catch up on the points deficit from Barcelona. Ancelotti must be aware of Barcelona's increasingly sharp attack line, in their last match they managed to score 5 goals against Sevilla, he needs to maintain the defense line to prevent Barcelona players from breaking through his team's goal. Barcelona will certainly try to perform optimally by maintaining their best performance in order to win the title race this season.

Real Madrid are actually playing badly. Despite all their star players, they can't play well. Right now, they are playing badly against Borussia Dortmund in the Champions League. It seems like the star players have a big problem with each other. We were thinking Ancelotti would solve this problem, but it seems like he couldn't. They won't have much of a chance against Barcelona in El Classico.

[bitLeap]

Real Madrid are actually playing badly. Despite all their star players, they can't play well. Right now, they are playing badly against Borussia Dortmund in the Champions League. It seems like the star players have a big problem with each other. We were thinking Ancelotti would solve this problem, but it seems like he couldn't. They won't have much of a chance against Barcelona in El Classico.

You want to know why they have great players but play so badly? It's because Madrid doesn't have a clear game system. A reliable striker but can't really apply his abilities. I think Ancelotti can't solve this problem, so I hope Madrid recruits Xabi Alonso who can solve the problem of imbalance in attack in the front line.

[Lida93]

Barcelona retains their top spot in the La Liga table after thrashing Sevilla 5:1 yesterday. Their performance this season is significantly improved from last season. Barcelona has come out strong in La Liga, with Lewandowski consistently scoring goals. Although he narrowly missed a hat trick against Sevilla, he scoring prowess is thrilling to watch.

Given Barcelona's impressive form, they have a strong chance of lifting the trophy this season.

This season for Barcelona has been more than impressive,  it's been a very good season for the blaugranas as they seem to be improving match after match. Barcelona has only lost twice this season to Osasuna in the league and to Monaco in the champions league and are leading in the Spanish La liga which has been an extraordinary season for Hansi Flick and his boys so far this season. With this kind of form that Barcelona are enjoying at the moment one can't but keep anticipating to see the El classico where the two elite Spanish side will meet, and hope by then all injured players would have been certified fit to play to make the match as interesting as it can be. Barcelona are already looking good to clinch the title this season after losing it to their arch rival Real Madrid who took from them last season and the el classico could be a decider for the title race in the La liga this season.

[red4slash]

That is based on because for the match later Madrid will play home which indirectly of course this will be a beneficial condition when they play at the Bernabeu so it is not wrong when Madrid are the favourites in this match because they play comfortably in front of thousands of their supporters.

But in this case I think we also need to consider other matches before El Clasico before betting because after all this is quite important because apart from mentally, the readiness of the players we also need to see if there really isn't anything unwanted like injuries or other incidents in the Champions League match because after all for a big match like this with rivalry and prestige at stake the absence of several players on the field can later be decisive for the final result.

Let's take a look at the H2H between Real Madrid and Barcelona as they play at the Bernabeu.
In 10 matches at the Bernabeu, especially for La Liga matches, both teams both won 5/10 matches each. Real Madrid has tended to win in the last few seasons, especially in the last 5 seasons.

However, there is one thing you need to watch out for and that is Barcelona's return to form. Barcelona are in their best form this season and they have a lot of talent in their squad who are playing well. Lamine Yamal, Raphinha and Lewandowski have been in their best form this season, while Pedri has also been instrumental in attack. Gavi, who is considered one of the most important players, has returned from injury, of course he will definitely be a good addition in the midfield although De Jong and Dani Olmo are also great.

Flick's distinctive attacking style and return to confidence could prove decisive despite Madrid's decent h2h at the Bernabeu but that's a story for another era and Madrid should be wary of Flick as he's one of the most visionary coaches in the game and it's evident that Barcelona really are a different club to the one they've always struggled to score against in the past.

But on the other hand I think the situation remains the same where the players also currently have a winning progress because in the end when the schedule is busy and the players are too shortened this can make the condition of fatigue and focus in the game disturbed so in this case Flick and Ancelotti must be smart in providing schemes to be effective and not burden the players.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Real Madrid are actually playing badly. Despite all their star players, they can't play well. Right now, they are playing badly against Borussia Dortmund in the Champions League. It seems like the star players have a big problem with each other. We were thinking Ancelotti would solve this problem, but it seems like he couldn't. They won't have much of a chance against Barcelona in El Classico.

It is true that Madrid's performance in the first half was a little weak. However, in the first half, Madrid's players attacked a lot. A total of probably 9 shots were made by Real Madrid players. But only one of these shots was on target. On the other hand, in the first half, every attack made by Dortmund's players was very strong and sharp. Dortmund's players performed well in the first half. However, Dortmund were defeated by Ancelotti's mastermind by a big margin.

Dortmund was leading 2-0 at the end of the first half. But Dortmund lost this match 5-2. Dortmund players conceded 5 goals in the second half. The performance of the defenders seemed to me to have no specific match strategy. Dortmund's defenders were completely disoriented by Madrid's attack. I would say Dortmund's poor match strategy led to such a loss in this match.

[len01]

Dortmund was leading 2-0 at the end of the first half. But Dortmund lost this match 5-2. Dortmund players conceded 5 goals in the second half. The performance of the defenders seemed to me to have no specific match strategy. Dortmund's defenders were completely disoriented by Madrid's attack. I would say Dortmund's poor match strategy led to such a loss in this match.

Madrid improved performance in the second half was indeed predictable and this is the strategy style that Ancelotti always gives. We did see Madrid performance in the first half looking weak, but believe that all of that was just the beginning of Ancelotti and the Madrid players to read Dortmund weaknesses.
Actually I don't think Dortmund is weak, but in the second half Dortmund defense became very bad, they seemed to lose focus and looked very tired. On the one hand Madrid continued to launch attacks towards Dortmund which made the defense lose confidence and ended with a very amazing result of the match.
Vinicius looked aggressive but Mbappe still seemed to adapt to this kind of competition.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Dortmund was leading 2-0 at the end of the first half. But Dortmund lost this match 5-2. Dortmund players conceded 5 goals in the second half. The performance of the defenders seemed to me to have no specific match strategy. Dortmund's defenders were completely disoriented by Madrid's attack. I would say Dortmund's poor match strategy led to such a loss in this match.

Madrid improved performance in the second half was indeed predictable and this is the strategy style that Ancelotti always gives. We did see Madrid performance in the first half looking weak, but believe that all of that was just the beginning of Ancelotti and the Madrid players to read Dortmund weaknesses.
Actually I don't think Dortmund is weak, but in the second half Dortmund defense became very bad, they seemed to lose focus and looked very tired. On the one hand Madrid continued to launch attacks towards Dortmund which made the defense lose confidence and ended with a very amazing result of the match.
Vinicius looked aggressive but Mbappe still seemed to adapt to this kind of competition.

It's a strategy that is simple but difficult to control, although it's a good thing for Madrid right now, but sometimes this scheme is not very effective when they fail.
Bt in this match the Madrid squad really did their job well and I like the result although I was a little disappointed with Madrid's first half scheme which seemed too rushed.

With this result, of course, we are quite optimistic about El Clasico which will be held at the same place in a few days because even though Barcelona is also currently improving quite well but Madrid's confidence I think is starting to form, hopefully my expectations will not deviate from reality later especially since Madrid clearly benefits from the first El Clasico this season.

[Antotena]

Before the start of the season, most people preferred Real, and this is understandable, Barcelona was at the stage of changing the coach, they did without new transfers, a little later Olmo joined them, so there were no great hopes for Barcelona's success. But Flick brought a good mood to the team, and Real started the season not in the best shape, they also often faced injuries, and this allowed Barcelona to take the lead.

There was too much expectations from Mbape and his was one of the most controversial transfer in football for 2 good years, who wouldn't expect much from him after everything Real Madrid went through to get him despite how he suffered a lot of individuals between the two team. There was much expected frkm him but I think too much of expectations they say, you will he disappointed but I think he still have much to offer Real Madrid, just a matter of time.

I don't know why I'm not feeling this Barcelona yet as the favorite team of the league, I think this is the feeling of new caoch actions and they have not undergone any difficult time and that time is coming to them very soon. Until then, if they can pass through any difficulty that time, then I think they can win this season but I'm not sure if Real Madrid will be this bad until that time of the end of the league.

[Silence Scream]

Barcelona wants to take back its throne, I noticed since the last 3 seasons the 2 giants (Barcelona and Real Madrid) continue to want to prove their dominance in the league. 2021/22 Real Madrid won the league, 2022/23 it was Barcelona's turn, 2023/24 Real Madrid won it back, and this time it might be Barcelona's turn again.

Barcelona's performances last season were poor and erratic. But since the beginning of this season, with the help of Hansi Flick, Barcelona's players have been performing brilliantly. Barcelona have held the top spot in the table since the start of the season. Barcelona won 9 out of 10 matches. Barcelona have only lost against Osasuna. And Barcelona lost this match due to not having Yamal and Raphinha in the starting XI.

Barcelona played great against Sevilla in yesterday's match. The Barcelona team won by a big margin of 5-1. We have seen Barcelona's dominance since the beginning of the match. Lewandowski scored 2 goals and Pablo Torre scored 2 goals in this match.

True, they have done their best since the start of the league, getting a losing record is not that bad, even Real Madrid who have never lost can only be below Barcelona in the standings. Barcelona lost 3 points while Real Madrid lost 6 points from the 3 draws they got. The upcoming El Clasico will be a deciding factor for both teams.

It is very difficult to predict who will win the upcoming big match because we know that both teams care more about these matches than ever before. We all know that Real Madrid and Barcelona care a lot about the points they will gain in this match. Real Madrid played great against Borussia in the second half but they need to play like that against Barça if they play badly in the first half Barça will beat them easily.

[Alpha Marine]

This El Classico is going to be much harder for Barcelona because they are in the first place in the table and they should try not to lose any points in this match otherwise and if Real Madrid wins this match they can easily get closer to Barcelona and even take the place of Barcelona in the La Liga table soon.
In fact, Barcelona should play wisely and try to even get a draw in this match which can be better for them than just losing everything.
On the other hand, Real Madrid will definitely start playing aggressively.

What I'm looking forward to most in this Classico is how both teams approach the game. Barcelona plays with a very high line that chokes the opponent into their own half and always wins the ball quickly when they lose. Madrid on the other hand id used to these kinds of situations because they can sit tight and hit their opponent on the counter attack with fast players like Vinicius, Mbappe and Rodrygo. This si what makes it a very interesting watch.
The match would be won by the team that takes his chances the most. If Barcelona does all the pressing and doesn't score, Madrid will counter and score or vice verser.
I'm really looking forward to that game. Its been a while since I looked forward to an El Classico this much. With all Barcelona players available except the once that are long term injury, they have an advantage there.