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The last manager of Barcelona before Flick is Xavi and during his time with Barcelona he created a good impact in the team which is part of what the new manager is enjoying now because Xavi brought the players that has helped the Barcelona team to win the league last season. Flick took over from Xavi to continue where he started but the tactics of Flick has helped the Barcelona team to regain control of the league so I can say Flick is the better manager than Xavi.
Both have a very good role for Barcelona at this time, although in the Xavi era there were sometimes some problems, especially the relationship that escalated to a worse direction at the end of his coaching, he still had a positive impact on Barcelona, it's just that for now, the Flick era, he can give better performance supported by the experience he has and slightly better financial conditions so that he can add a few players who are wanted to make Barcelona more stable. Currently, Flick is still very good and it is possible that if he can still maintain consistency, they can get better results than last season, although I hope this season I want to see Madrid win the trophy again in La Liga, but it is undeniable that now Barcelona also has a great opportunity, even if you look at the current situation, their condition can still be said to be more solid compared to Madrid, which is in a transition phase of changing coaches and overhaul, especially in the defense line.
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June 24, 2025, 11:54:52 PM Last edit: June 25, 2025, 12:17:35 AM by Dzwaafu11 |
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It's actually not Xabi but Xavi, Xabi is Real Madrid current coach while Xavi was Barcelona former coach. Personally, I think Xavi was underrated although I kind of understand that his Barcelona team then wasn't functional as of the Barcelona of now. He laid the foundation for this current Barcelona if I'm not mistaken. He brought players from the La Massia team and promoted them to the senior team, it means that he saw potential in them. Some of the current signings was still Xavi, I think this current coach Flick is actually on Xavi's team but his getting the real talent out of them. Some coaches build but don't know how to continue in using what they've built, I personally think that was the case of Xavi I don’t think he was underrated, but you know in every team, everyone wants to get what other people are getting, and I feel like he underperformed in Barcelona. Maybe he was unable to deliver the result Barcelona wanted, so they don’t want to keep him, and they decided to change. Xavi built Barcelona, though, as you said, but things did not go well during his time till Hansi Flick came in as the manager, and Barcelona started doing great again. That is football; sometimes things didn’t go well as expected. As you said, maybe after building the team to execute what they built, it always becomes a problem for them, and Barcelona wants a fast result, so they could not wait. Moreover, they don’t want to be getting bad for long.
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June 25, 2025, 04:09:17 AM |
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Xabi is an experienced coach and I feel that he has been able to figure out that if he uses same formation he used at Bayern Leverkusen for Real Madrid, he may not actually get the result he wants that is why he is using a different pattern but maybe we can wait till next season to see the formation he will prefer. He is coaching one of the best teams in Europe so he will certainly use a different formation that will match the club's style of play. Xabi Alonso has already proven himself at the FIFA club world Cup, despite Raul Asencio getting an early red card in their match against Mexican team Pachuca but they still managed to win by 3:1 and are leading the table of their group so it shows that next season will be a smooth one for Xabi Alonso even though there will be a tough competition between them and Barcelona.
Leverkusen is certainly different from Real Madrid and of course Xabi did something different, yes it is true that now Xabi has proven that he is a good coach, yes it is true that in the Real Madrid vs Pachuca match, Real Madrid was able to win even though they played with 10 men because Raul received a red card in the 7th minute. yes of course now we will see whether Real Madrid will play better or not and of course what makes me curious is when the match is Real Madrid vs RB Salzburg and of course there we will see how Xabi makes a strategy. next season will certainly be the determining factor whether Xabi can make Real Madrid better or not but yes it is true of course there will definitely be tight competition again and of course Barcelona will be an obstacle for Real Madrid so that the El Clasico match will definitely be more exciting next season. I can't wait to see the El Clasico match but unfortunately it's still a long time. of course it won't be easy for Xabi to be able to build Real Madrid to be better and of course this is a tough challenge for Xabi, we'll just have to see later.
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June 25, 2025, 05:20:17 AM |
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If you say Flick is better than Xavi, I think many people agree because in his first season Flick was immediately able to give Barcelona a trophy, but don't forget that Xavi came to Barcelona when conditions were very bad and the results achieved by Flick cannot be separated from the initial program built by Xavi, so I think it's unfair to compare because the situations are different.
Xavi came when Barcelona were in big crisis and they needed someone who can heal their pain, and rescue them from the crisis but Xavi actually did much better than original expectation by winning La Liga title with Barcelona. In about three seasons with Xavi, Barcelona did not have many young players who have been playing as main players with great contributions like what Flick had in the last season. There are big differences in two squads under two head coaches and it is unfair to compare them. In my opinion, both head coaches are very good ones and deserved to be respected by Barcelona and their fans.
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If you say Flick is better than Xavi, I think many people agree because in his first season Flick was immediately able to give Barcelona a trophy, but don't forget that Xavi came to Barcelona when conditions were very bad and the results achieved by Flick cannot be separated from the initial program built by Xavi, so I think it's unfair to compare because the situations are different.
Xavi has built a good foundation before leaving Barcelona so that the arrival of Flick can make it a little easier and I think what Xavi has left has given good results for Barcelona. The success obtained by Flick is inseparable from the efforts that have been made by Xabi so that both of them give their respective roles. If you see from the results it might be true that Flick is far more successful because he does run such a good job in his first season and if you want to compare then next season we can see the extent to which Flick can give better to Barcelona.
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June 25, 2025, 09:49:46 AM |
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Is true a professional coach who knows what advantage of quality players has will only be praying for a club with the record to hire them to coach because they already knows what they would do with the players, strategies is like a recipe that each coaches has there unique own and the person that has the best brings the best results, is unfortunate for most of the coaches that might be struggling in coaching some of the teams that isn't strong to use his strategy with results. Real Madrid truly need such coach who would look at the players and no what to do with them. a good coach knows how to make the most of the players he has at his disposal, i remember the year in which Claudio Ranieri made Leicester win, crazy. He is good and very good let's hope real madrid finds its way with the new coach, i think yes because all works and coach align on it
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Xavi has built a good foundation before leaving Barcelona so that the arrival of Flick can make it a little easier and I think what Xavi has left has given good results for Barcelona. The success obtained by Flick is inseparable from the efforts that have been made by Xabi so that both of them give their respective roles. If you see from the results it might be true that Flick is far more successful because he does run such a good job in his first season and if you want to compare then next season we can see the extent to which Flick can give better to Barcelona.
Flick brought more lightness to Barcelona, a more relaxed attitude towards the game, and a better atmosphere within the team. He often repeated that for him Barcelona and the team are like a family. It was different with Xavi, Xavi clearly separated the players, and the coaching staff, their relationship was more formal. But despite this each of them gave Barcelona something unique, something important that helped the club win the league title. With Flick Barcelona have become even better and in my opinion it is obvious. I hope next season will be even more successful for them especially in the Champions League.
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Yes i saw, it's not that i like a 4-man defense very much, it means that he's putting all the effort into a defense rather than into the midfield for example. I liked Carlo Ancelotti's game, so let's see if Xabi's works, we'll find out next season.
Ancelotti's system worked really well until a point. But last season, it failed. Maybe because of the injury problems mostly. Because they had these issues in defense quite often. He is still the manager with the highest number of trophies in Real Madrid.  i respect him a lot for that. Xabi Alonso is an old Real Madrid player at the same time. i am excited to see his performance as well... I believe you, you seem to know your stuff and know what you're talking about. In fact, i don't understand what the point is beyond which Carlo Ancelotti's strategy doesn't work, but i am not asking this to bore or annoy you, i just want to understand and learn from your analysis.
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June 25, 2025, 10:59:06 AM |
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Is true a professional coach who knows what advantage of quality players has will only be praying for a club with the record to hire them to coach because they already knows what they would do with the players, strategies is like a recipe that each coaches has there unique own and the person that has the best brings the best results, is unfortunate for most of the coaches that might be struggling in coaching some of the teams that isn't strong to use his strategy with results. Real Madrid truly need such coach who would look at the players and no what to do with them. a good coach knows how to make the most of the players he has at his disposal, i remember the year in which Claudio Ranieri made Leicester win, crazy. He is good and very good let's hope real madrid finds its way with the new coach, i think yes because all works and coach align on it Xabi Alonso is a great coach, he has proven it when he was able to drastically improve Leverkusen's performance and even won the Bundesliga title that the team had not won for a long time, that is proof that Xabi Alonso is a great coach so that Real Madrid management recruited him. However, for the competition in La Liga, especially Real Madrid and Barcelona are already at different levels so that both teams must recruit quality players.
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June 25, 2025, 11:10:02 AM |
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a good coach knows how to make the most of the players he has at his disposal, i remember the year in which Claudio Ranieri made Leicester win, crazy. He is good and very good let's hope real madrid finds its way with the new coach, i think yes because all works and coach align on it
Of course, Real Madrid will become better. Just look at the Club World Cup match. If you pay attention, they are starting to change their playing style. There are many quick short passes and relying on teamwork. I think Xabi will bring a new vibe and style, so we might not be surprised. I think Xabi's selection is quite right. Although right now I see Xabi playing more in the 4-3-3 formation due to the limitations of the defenders. Maybe in the future he can also use the 5-3-2 formation.
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June 25, 2025, 11:23:18 AM |
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I believe you, you seem to know your stuff and know what you're talking about. In fact, i don't understand what the point is beyond which Carlo Ancelotti's strategy doesn't work, but i am not asking this to bore or annoy you, i just want to understand and learn from your analysis.
No problem, of course it is a discussion in the end. I mean injuries in the defense line like I said and there is of course another reason too. Ancelotti's system started to be so predictable you know. That's why how they got eliminated by Arsenal in the Champions League previously.  Arteta figured out a solution easily and destroyed him. Real Madrid couldn't even defend or attack properly. Just like what PSG did to Inter in the finale...
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2023-2024 season Girona really played well and he could compete with other popular clubs such as Atletico Madrid, Bilbao and others so it's no wonder Girona could finish in 3rd place which made Girona able to play in the Champions League if I'm not mistaken for the first time. but in this season (2024-2025) Girona really lost its performance and they finished in 16th place this is really a very sharp decline. surely now Girona needs to bring in good new players and of course until now I haven't heard any news about who the new players will be brought in by Girona, do you have the latest news about who the players will be brought in by Girona so that Girona is strong in the coming season (2025-2026). what do you think will happen to Girona in the coming season is it possible that he will be relegated in the coming season.? yes I hope Michel can fix Girona's squad because of course if Girona can't be fixed in the coming season it will certainly make Girona have the potential to be relegated. currently Girona finished in 16th place this is really beyond my expectations.  Yes, last season Girona really experienced a fairly deep decline in performance, because as we know Girona in the 23/24 season managed to finish in 3rd position and last season Girona finished in a very low position. So with that, Girona definitely has to improve its squad for next season, if the team wants to compete again with other top teams in La Liga. Maybe the first step that Girona must start is to bring in new players who have good quality. Because as far as I know in the previous transfer market Girona sold its important players such as their mainstay striker Dobvyk. So with that, Girona's squad performance has become stable and can be said to be quite bad. So with that, I think Girona currently has to be able to bring in a sharp striker again, because currently in the striker position Girona only relies on Stuani, while he is old now. So his performance is also not as good as when he was young. In addition, the other two strikers owned by Girona can also be said to be less good. So with that, I think Girona should prioritize the attack line and bring in a striker. Only after that can Girona think about the midfield and defense. And besides that, Girona must be able to learn from before, the point is if there are players who have great talent, don't sell them immediately. Because if Girona wants to advance, of course they must be able to control their egos so as not to be tempted by money.
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June 25, 2025, 11:42:50 AM |
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Xabi is an experienced coach and I feel that he has been able to figure out that if he uses same formation he used at Bayern Leverkusen for Real Madrid, he may not actually get the result he wants that is why he is using a different pattern but maybe we can wait till next season to see the formation he will prefer. He is coaching one of the best teams in Europe so he will certainly use a different formation that will match the club's style of play. Xabi Alonso has already proven himself at the FIFA club world Cup, despite Raul Asencio getting an early red card in their match against Mexican team Pachuca but they still managed to win by 3:1 and are leading the table of their group so it shows that next season will be a smooth one for Xabi Alonso even though there will be a tough competition between them and Barcelona.
Managers are very indulging with their formation depending on the kind of players in each club. Player capabilities from Bayer Leverkusen will not be the same in Real Madrid, forcing players to adapt according or in a way that isn't their style will slow down the result of the team. Real Madrid have a different squad which requires a different formation, Xabi Alonso and Real Madrid players will have to adapt to each other style, reason why coaches are being changed when the results they are getting isn't ideal but a different manager can achieve great results using the same squad. Even though the playing ability of these two clubs is not the same, Madrid will definitely try to stay ahead.Maybe one of the biggest problems for Real Madrid Football Club at the moment is the midfielder, and I think the Spanish club has almost gone crazy trying to find the perfect player in this position. So it seems that no one will be able to easily fill Toni Kroos' place in this team, so considering that situation, this club will have to search further. We can see in the news feed that an official statement from Kross said he might return to the club but it was not made clear in what role he would return. My idea Madrid could become a monster again with the arrival of this formidable midfielder but is that possible? Official statement from Kroos, announces his return to Real Madrid Toni Kroos continues to be more than alive in the minds of Real Madrid fans, and even more so after various statements by the former German midfielder
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Even though the playing ability of these two clubs is not the same, Madrid will definitely try to stay ahead.Maybe one of the biggest problems for Real Madrid Football Club at the moment is the midfielder, and I think the Spanish club has almost gone crazy trying to find the perfect player in this position. So it seems that no one will be able to easily fill Toni Kroos' place in this team, so considering that situation, this club will have to search further. We can see in the news feed that an official statement from Kross said he might return to the club but it was not made clear in what role he would return. It is certain that this player is still alive among the fans of the Spanish club. Official statement from Kroos, announces his return to Real Madrid Toni Kroos continues to be more than alive in the minds of Real Madrid fans, and even more so after various statements by the former German midfielder It's clear that Real Madrid still hasn't found a midfielder as good as T. Kroos. And indeed finding an equivalent like T. Kroos will take time. because even though there are players who are just as good, for example, they will still need adaptation time to be able to fully integrate with the Real Madrid squad. However, the problem that Real Madrid had last season was only about their back line. And all of that happened not because Real Madrid didn't have good defenders. It's just that all of this happened because many Real Madrid players suffered injuries last season. And the steps taken by Real Madrid only need to prepare defenders who are as good as the ones Real Madrid currently has. So that when there is a storm of injuries in the back line again, this team will be ready with replacement players who are just as good.
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I just don't understand why every young player that is above average is immediately named as "the XXX Messi". During the last 10-15 years I read about Messis from the most random places, and usually all those kids sooner or later disappear under the constant pressure they feel. Just let them grow them on their own and become their own football player, not everybody as to be a Messi.
The answer is simple, it's because Messi is seen as a football miracle. So, anyone out there who can play well at their young age, they must have a nickname that includes Messi's name. In our country, we also have one, he's Egy Maulana Vikri, nicknamed as Messi from Indonesia because of his good gameplay. Most of them slowly fade away & then fail, this can happen because of the high expectations from public that the player can't realize. AFAIK, only 1 player has that nickname & is successful, he's Takefusa Kubo. Have you heard his name?
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June 25, 2025, 12:44:38 PM |
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The last manager of Barcelona before Flick is Xavi and during his time with Barcelona he created a good impact in the team which is part of what the new manager is enjoying now because Xavi brought the players that has helped the Barcelona team to win the league last season. Flick took over from Xavi to continue where he started but the tactics of Flick has helped the Barcelona team to regain control of the league so I can say Flick is the better manager than Xavi.
Xavi managed Barcelona when they were in a vulnerable state, they had some financial situations to take care of and that did affected the quality of the team, it was at this time xavi managed the team and in all of that he made good impact all the time he managed the team so he is deserving of his flowers as one who really did saw the team through one of their challenging times and still got the team a good reputation in all of that. Flick has been doing so well ever since he took over from xavi, the legacy of xavi did set a very good foundation for Flick to build upon and he has been doing so well with it all this time. Barcelona has done really well and has achieved much having flick as their manager but this should not be good reason to compare both of them because they managed the team at different times when the team had different kind of challenges they faced, so they have both done well and not have any as better. They are good at their times
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June 25, 2025, 12:50:02 PM |
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Is true a professional coach who knows what advantage of quality players has will only be praying for a club with the record to hire them to coach because they already knows what they would do with the players, strategies is like a recipe that each coaches has there unique own and the person that has the best brings the best results, is unfortunate for most of the coaches that might be struggling in coaching some of the teams that isn't strong to use his strategy with results. Real Madrid truly need such coach who would look at the players and no what to do with them. a good coach knows how to make the most of the players he has at his disposal, i remember the year in which Claudio Ranieri made Leicester win, crazy. He is good and very good let's hope real madrid finds its way with the new coach, i think yes because all works and coach align on it This new coach in real Madrid as only one task which is to unite the team and make them play as team with love for each other without wanting to compete with each other if he can achieve this then real Madrid will be unstoppable next season, real Madrid already have good players that are very good but I just feel that they are not playing in unity that is why they are not doing well, those top players there wants to at shine the other, one thing all those players don't know is that the more they don't corporate the more they will suffer for it because they won't lift any trophy and before you know it there market value will be dropping and i think the Coach needs to tell them this so they can sit up and work as a team. bastisisca you are right that a good coach knows how to make the most of the players he has at his disposal, this is very correct some people make excuses for Coach that the reason for there failure is because of the players, a good coach will surely know how to make use of the players he has at his disposal and will even win trophy with them.
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June 25, 2025, 01:56:49 PM |
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The last manager of Barcelona before Flick is Xavi and during his time with Barcelona he created a good impact in the team which is part of what the new manager is enjoying now because Xavi brought the players that has helped the Barcelona team to win the league last season. Flick took over from Xavi to continue where he started but the tactics of Flick has helped the Barcelona team to regain control of the league so I can say Flick is the better manager than Xavi.
Flick has been doing so well ever since he took over from xavi, the legacy of xavi did set a very good foundation for Flick to build upon and he has been doing so well with it all this time. Barcelona has done really well and has achieved much having flick as their manager but this should not be good reason to compare both of them because they managed the team at different times when the team had different kind of challenges they faced, so they have both done well and not have any as better. They are good at their times Not trying to give the glory to Flick for what he has achieved so far since he took over as the Barcelona coach but looking at the players that was on the Barcelona coach during the time of Xavi I don't see much difference between the current players now and then because Barcelona is still in financial crisis but the current manager is managing the team and he has used same players to achieve a great result in the team.
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2023-2024 season Girona really played well and he could compete with other popular clubs such as Atletico Madrid, Bilbao and others so it's no wonder Girona could finish in 3rd place which made Girona able to play in the Champions League if I'm not mistaken for the first time. but in this season (2024-2025) Girona really lost its performance and they finished in 16th place this is really a very sharp decline. surely now Girona needs to bring in good new players and of course until now I haven't heard any news about who the new players will be brought in by Girona, do you have the latest news about who the players will be brought in by Girona so that Girona is strong in the coming season (2025-2026). what do you think will happen to Girona in the coming season is it possible that he will be relegated in the coming season.? yes I hope Michel can fix Girona's squad because of course if Girona can't be fixed in the coming season it will certainly make Girona have the potential to be relegated. currently Girona finished in 16th place this is really beyond my expectations.  In the last tournament we saw match of Girona football team which they played against Atlético Madrid football team and that was one sided match because one team did back to back goals in this match and opponent team was silent in this match and they could do any goal in this match. Sørloth was a prominent player of this match and I am impressed by that player because he did 3 goals in this match which was prominent performance by that player and he did 3 goals in the second half when it was requirement of team. He did 2 goals in 3 minutes and Girona team has many limitations and they have to work on that if they want to see better performance in next season.Players have to fight well in every match as that is necessary for them.
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June 25, 2025, 02:18:17 PM |
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Xavi has built a good foundation before leaving Barcelona so that the arrival of Flick can make it a little easier and I think what Xavi has left has given good results for Barcelona. The success obtained by Flick is inseparable from the efforts that have been made by Xabi so that both of them give their respective roles. If you see from the results it might be true that Flick is far more successful because he does run such a good job in his first season and if you want to compare then next season we can see the extent to which Flick can give better to Barcelona.
In as much as I agree with you that xavi helped Barcelona to build a formidable team before leaving to allow flick to do the rest, i still want you to understand that if flick didn't continue from where he stopped to give the team a quality coaching pattern, it would've been another story so continuity is what matters and I give kudos to flicks because he made it happen, no doubt xabi was also good, personally I will want to give praises to the two managers different I got my reasons, both managers coaching style are different and again with what we know they got different results too, we know where flick started from with Barcelona and where he landed them last, so let's see what he got in upcoming season, may be then I can actually make full comparison about him and xabi, for now I stop it here.
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