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August 07, 2025, 08:13:20 PM

Of course Rodrygo could fit into Real Madrid's plans and he has those qualities inherent in him but even then among dozens of players, he may not be getting the support he deserves with Madrid. In many cases it is clear that his priorities have dropped and he is also moving away from the manager's plans. In terms of terminology there may be a stark difference between Luka Modric and the emerging top player of Brazilian origin,Because we all know about their positional strength. In fact Real Madrid's midfield reliance was mainly on Luka Modric, so we didn't see him on the bench for much time but Rodrygo was on the bench for a long time even in important matches.
Actually Rodrygo can fit into Xabi Alonso style and tactics but the only problem is there are players which are preferable better than him in the team so they cannot bench them over him that is the reason why he doesn't starts match for Real Madrid. Also in an interview Xabi Alonso says that the reason he does not start Rodrygo is because he does not fit into his style of football . If it turns out that Rodygo leaves Real Madrid i think that Real Madrid will be losing a good player from the squad.

If Xavi Alonso has said that the player doesn't fit into his style of play then there is no reason arguing about the future of the players again leaving the club should be the Best thing to do for the carrier of the player you don't expect the player to be on the bench because obviously there are alot of players that can replace him at his position

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August 07, 2025, 08:22:26 PM

I still wonder why people will be asking for Alonso's even when his not officially kicked off a season with the club. Most people are already drawing conclusions with the canes played in the club world cup and using it as a yardstick. For crying out loud, Alonso's team was eliminated by the best team currently and it wasn't even early in the competition but in the semi final. He needs time to set things up.
I think the reason why people will keep complaining until things get right in the club is because during the club world cup where they were humiliated by the boys Chelsea dealth with is because, we saw reoccurring lapses, their defense was not good, the midfield was messed up talk more of the finishing, so support any person complaining because it will serves as an opener to the manager that all is not well with the club as such he should be prepared from now to lead to the team on a successful journey, Realmadrid is not just an ordinary team, so it should come as a surprise when you see or hear fans complain a lot, yea i agree that he is supposed not to be judge immediately but in due time, don't also forget that he's the manager of the club, so things will continue hitting up on him.
Are you sure you watched the club world cup? When did Real Madrid play with Chelsea? Or are you mistaken PSG for Chelsea? Now talking about that defeat, firstly it was two costly errors from the defenders in two different occasions but within a short period of time. PSG were the more superior team even before going into the match which we all know and if a team concedes two early goals against a more superior opponent then the morale of the team was automatically be shattered. That's exactly what happened to them in that very match.
I watch the match of course and I don't think that question was necessary because I wasnt talking like someone who didn't watch the club world cup matches, if you should go through what I wrote thoroughly, you'll understand that I was trying to say that Realmadrid was defeated by the club Chelsea dealt with which is PSG, may be you didn't understand my text very well, I responded to this quickly because I wanted you grab what I was saying,  those costly errors that came from those two defenders was from which team defenders exactly? I didn't want it to look like we are over stressing this matter, the truth remains that Realmadrid has not done anything that will convince us that they have improved, may be I will agree that we should keep things as they are until the new season that's by the corner kickstarts.

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August 07, 2025, 08:37:01 PM

If Xavi Alonso has said that the player doesn't fit into his style of play then there is no reason arguing about the future of the players again leaving the club should be the Best thing to do for the carrier of the player you don't expect the player to be on the bench because obviously there are alot of players that can replace him at his position
Not Xavi, but Xabi Alonso. If the current Real Madrid manager truly doesn't want a player like Rodrygo, he should certainly offer him the best way forward by letting him go to another team without having to pay a hefty fee, even though the player is still quite young at the moment. But it's not just about age; it's more about allowing the player to leave peacefully without any obstacles from the team. I think Real Madrid will still struggle next season if their attack remains the same as last season. Furthermore, an injury to one of their forwards could also hinder Real Madrid's recovery next season, so Madrid should think carefully before letting a young player like Rodrygo go to another team.

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August 07, 2025, 08:42:11 PM

If Xavi Alonso has said that the player doesn't fit into his style of play then there is no reason arguing about the future of the players again leaving the club should be the Best thing to do for the carrier of the player you don't expect the player to be on the bench because obviously there are alot of players that can replace him at his position

This is exactly what I want many to understand about Rodrygo's career in Real Madrid. If the catch has already made it clear that you’re not part of his plans, it is better you seek for opportunity elsewhere including that he’s still a very young player and will quickly be accepted in any club he wishes to play for. Why lingering over where you were clearly told that you’re not part of their plans. Sitting on the bench is not good for the type of player he is, he needs to be active on the field always and that will also help him secure his spot in the national team he’s playing for that’s already full with talented players like him. Whoever advises him to stay back sit on the bench and hope for a chance doesn’t really mean him well and his career.











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August 07, 2025, 08:43:23 PM

I still wonder why people will be asking for Alonso's even when his not officially kicked off a season with the club. Most people are already drawing conclusions with the canes played in the club world cup and using it as a yardstick. For crying out loud, Alonso's team was eliminated by the best team currently and it wasn't even early in the competition but in the semi final. He needs time to set things up.
I think the reason why people will keep complaining until things get right in the club is because during the club world cup where they were humiliated by the boys Chelsea dealth with is because, we saw reoccurring lapses, their defense was not good, the midfield was messed up talk more of the finishing, so support any person complaining because it will serves as an opener to the manager that all is not well with the club as such he should be prepared from now to lead to the team on a successful journey, Realmadrid is not just an ordinary team, so it should come as a surprise when you see or hear fans complain a lot, yea i agree that he is supposed not to be judge immediately but in due time, don't also forget that he's the manager of the club, so things will continue hitting up on him.
Are you sure you watched the club world cup? When did Real Madrid play with Chelsea? Or are you mistaken PSG for Chelsea? Now talking about that defeat, firstly it was two costly errors from the defenders in two different occasions but within a short period of time. PSG were the more superior team even before going into the match which we all know and if a team concedes two early goals against a more superior opponent then the morale of the team was automatically be shattered. That's exactly what happened to them in that very match.
I watch the match of course and I don't think that question was necessary because I wasnt talking like someone who didn't watch the club world cup matches, if you should go through what I wrote thoroughly, you'll understand that I was trying to say that Realmadrid was defeated by the club Chelsea dealt with which is PSG, may be you didn't understand my text very well, I responded to this quickly because I wanted you grab what I was saying,  those costly errors that came from those two defenders was from which team defenders exactly? I didn't want it to look like we are over stressing this matter, the truth remains that Realmadrid has not done anything that will convince us that they have improved, may be I will agree that we should keep things as they are until the new season that's by the corner kickstarts.
It seems that you don't know Real Madrid that much, or you just choose to underestimate them that they haven't made any effort to improve their performance and there is no evidence on that. Have you forgotten that Real Madrid only get worse in a season and become better the next season because they always learn from their mistakes. They have the financial strength to buy any player they want in order to strengthen and cover up the loop holes in in team.

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August 07, 2025, 08:52:32 PM

That is what people don’t understand about the club. The World Cup should not be a reason to say Xabi Alonso will be performing poorly in the next coming season. The manager just started his journey in this team, and people are already concluding that he won’t do what the former coach did, which is not supposed to be the best thing. We are supposed to give him time and wait till the season kicks off before we judge, and even if the season starts, we can’t judge in the early stage of the season. He’s new to the team, and he has new players, so these two reasons should be considered to give him time and see what he will do.
I don’t know the reason why people have been criticizing Xabi Alonso when the season has never even started for them to see his reaction in the team. I think they are supposed to give him some time, or after the season has begun and he is still not doing well with the team, it is that time they should say whatever against him. But now the manager just begins his journey with the team, and no matter how good the coach is, at least he is supposed to observe the team and know their situation before taking any action or offering solutions about the team.

But what I’m thinking is maybe those that keep saying that Xabi Alonso will be performing poorly next season are forgetting that he is the former coach of the Leverkusen team and that he worked hard to make the team look better and more competitive in every league, without facing too many challenges.

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August 07, 2025, 08:59:51 PM

It seems that you don't know Real Madrid that much, or you just choose to underestimate them that they haven't made any effort to improve their performance and there is no evidence on that. Have you forgotten that Real Madrid only get worse in a season and become better the next season because they always learn from their mistakes. They have the financial strength to buy any player they want in order to strengthen and cover up the loop holes in in team.
You're misunderstanding the whole thing mate, am not underestimating them, I know that they got the finances to do what ever the want in terms of hunting for whichever player the want to go for or want in the team, I also know that they can improve more than we expect this season but you've have seen how their last season has affected the team badly, I know Realmadrid, it is funny that you even have to sat that, I don't want to argue this further, I will be happy to see that version of Realmadrid we use to know this coming season, am lamenting because am not happy with how the performed last season and I think you should understand that

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If Xavi Alonso has said that the player doesn't fit into his style of play then there is no reason arguing about the future of the players again leaving the club should be the Best thing to do for the carrier of the player you don't expect the player to be on the bench because obviously there are alot of players that can replace him at his position

He is a player with immense potential, and at his young age, he is not only capable of returning to his best form but also has the potential to develop further. Therefore, I hope he stays at Real Madrid. Although he may not be part of the manager's plans and is likely to sit on the bench, I think the team could consider loaning Rodrygo Gos to another club so he can continue playing regularly and get more playing time. It is very difficult for a player to return to his best form if he is only given limited playing time.

Additionally, in the modern era of football, it is very difficult to find players who truly possess excellent skills on the field, as many players today command high prices and salaries, but their skills and performance on the field do not match their value.


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August 07, 2025, 09:15:13 PM

I still wonder why people will be asking for Alonso's even when his not officially kicked off a season with the club. Most people are already drawing conclusions with the canes played in the club world cup and using it as a yardstick. For crying out loud, Alonso's team was eliminated by the best team currently and it wasn't even early in the competition but in the semi final. He needs time to set things up.
I think the reason why people will keep complaining until things get right in the club is because during the club world cup where they were humiliated by the boys Chelsea dealth with is because, we saw reoccurring lapses, their defense was not good, the midfield was messed up talk more of the finishing, so support any person complaining because it will serves as an opener to the manager that all is not well with the club as such he should be prepared from now to lead to the team on a successful journey, Realmadrid is not just an ordinary team, so it should come as a surprise when you see or hear fans complain a lot, yea i agree that he is supposed not to be judge immediately but in due time, don't also forget that he's the manager of the club, so things will continue hitting up on him.
Are you sure you watched the club world cup? When did Real Madrid play with Chelsea? Or are you mistaken PSG for Chelsea? Now talking about that defeat, firstly it was two costly errors from the defenders in two different occasions but within a short period of time. PSG were the more superior team even before going into the match which we all know and if a team concedes two early goals against a more superior opponent then the morale of the team was automatically be shattered. That's exactly what happened to them in that very match.
I watch the match of course and I don't think that question was necessary because I wasnt talking like someone who didn't watch the club world cup matches, if you should go through what I wrote thoroughly, you'll understand that I was trying to say that Realmadrid was defeated by the club Chelsea dealt with which is PSG, may be you didn't understand my text very well, I responded to this quickly because I wanted you grab what I was saying,  those costly errors that came from those two defenders was from which team defenders exactly? I didn't want it to look like we are over stressing this matter, the truth remains that Realmadrid has not done anything that will convince us that they have improved, may be I will agree that we should keep things as they are until the new season that's by the corner kickstarts.
It seems that you don't know Real Madrid that much, or you just choose to underestimate them that they haven't made any effort to improve their performance and there is no evidence on that. Have you forgotten that Real Madrid only get worse in a season and become better the next season because they always learn from their mistakes. They have the financial strength to buy any player they want in order to strengthen and cover up the loop holes in in team.

Real Madrid has a financial strength as a matter of fact I think they are among the richest club in the whole world if not the richest amongst others. But sometimes it is not about having financial strength and buying of best player, the problem is how to manage them properly, I remember when Paris Saint Germain squad was mad but guess what happened to them, they were finding it difficult to win a trophy aside there own league i mean it was that bad and crazy. Real Madrid has learnt there lesson last season and I doubt if that can repeat itself again because they will have no option than to fire Alonso.

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August 07, 2025, 09:24:52 PM

Of course Rodrygo could fit into Real Madrid's plans and he has those qualities inherent in him but even then among dozens of players, he may not be getting the support he deserves with Madrid. In many cases it is clear that his priorities have dropped and he is also moving away from the manager's plans. In terms of terminology there may be a stark difference between Luka Modric and the emerging top player of Brazilian origin,Because we all know about their positional strength. In fact Real Madrid's midfield reliance was mainly on Luka Modric, so we didn't see him on the bench for much time but Rodrygo was on the bench for a long time even in important matches.
That's right it's not as if Rodrygo can't play for Real Madrid, he has the quality to play for them but he is just not wanted by the new coach maybe because he doesn't suit his pattern. It happens sometimes when new coach is brought to a team not all players are wanted and he drops some even if they are good players. Modric is probably lucky that no coach dislikes him he is very good and has convinced everyone how reliable he is but Rodrygo hasn't done that because he plays from where he is not too comfortable.

Also in an interview Xabi Alonso says that the reason he does not start Rodrygo is because he does not fit into his style of football . If it turns out that Rodygo leaves Real Madrid i think that Real Madrid will be losing a good player from the squad.
Rodrygo is a very good player and Real Madrid will be losing a very good talent. It's not the end of the world, he is still young and can still find a decent team, a lot of top teams are already seeking for him. This kind of situation happens a lot for a coach to say a player is not in his plans, Chelsea coach also did it to a lot of players so it's not new.

 
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August 07, 2025, 09:32:05 PM

If Xavi Alonso has said that the player doesn't fit into his style of play then there is no reason arguing about the future of the players again leaving the club should be the Best thing to do for the carrier of the player you don't expect the player to be on the bench because obviously there are alot of players that can replace him at his position
Not Xavi, but Xabi Alonso. If the current Real Madrid manager truly doesn't want a player like Rodrygo, he should certainly offer him the best way forward by letting him go to another team without having to pay a hefty fee, even though the player is still quite young at the moment. But it's not just about age; it's more about allowing the player to leave peacefully without any obstacles from the team. I think Real Madrid will still struggle next season if their attack remains the same as last season. Furthermore, an injury to one of their forwards could also hinder Real Madrid's recovery next season, so Madrid should think carefully before letting a young player like Rodrygo go to another team.

I think that will be a risk, to let Rodrigo leave real madrid so easily. Rodrigo is a key player and Ancelotti as used him many times and he contributed very well and win trophies for Real Madrid. Am really surprised when xabi Alonso is not interesting on playing Rodrigo in the pitch. Even in the club world Cup he doesn't used to play him and I don't really know the problem or they have personal issues with the player, because how can a young player like Rodrigo don't see position in madrid anymore, that is a big regret in my opinion. What I usually think is that xabi Alonso is trying to used different strategies this season and he won't used Ancelotti pattern in the league competition,  is bringing a new once and I think Rodrigo pattern won't favour him in the competition. Since Rodrigo as change is decisions that he will stay in the club let see how the season will go. if he didn't get the opportunity to play am sure he will leave real madrid and move to another clubs, because he still a young star and big club will really want to buy him when is ready to leave the madrid.

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August 07, 2025, 09:40:38 PM

Of course Rodrygo could fit into Real Madrid's plans and he has those qualities inherent in him but even then among dozens of players, he may not be getting the support he deserves with Madrid. In many cases it is clear that his priorities have dropped and he is also moving away from the manager's plans. In terms of terminology there may be a stark difference between Luka Modric and the emerging top player of Brazilian origin,Because we all know about their positional strength. In fact Real Madrid's midfield reliance was mainly on Luka Modric, so we didn't see him on the bench for much time but Rodrygo was on the bench for a long time even in important matches.
Actually Rodrygo can fit into Xabi Alonso style and tactics but the only problem is there are players which are preferable better than him in the team so they cannot bench them over him that is the reason why he doesn't starts match for Real Madrid. Also in an interview Xabi Alonso says that the reason he does not start Rodrygo is because he does not fit into his style of football . If it turns out that Rodygo leaves Real Madrid i think that Real Madrid will be losing a good player from the squad.

If Xavi Alonso has said that the player doesn't fit into his style of play then there is no reason arguing about the future of the players again leaving the club should be the Best thing to do for the carrier of the player you don't expect the player to be on the bench because obviously there are alot of players that can replace him at his position
Of course, if Xabi has made such a decision, we must respect it. If not, Rodrygo must absolutely stay and fight. If he insists on leaving the team, Real Madrid will be the losers, as a team will undoubtedly sign him for the starting eleven. A player of this caliber will never be left unused.











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Real Madrid has a financial strength as a matter of fact I think they are among the richest club in the whole world if not the richest amongst others. But sometimes it is not about having financial strength and buying of best player, the problem is how to manage them properly, I remember when Paris Saint Germain squad was mad but guess what happened to them, they were finding it difficult to win a trophy aside there own league i mean it was that bad and crazy. Real Madrid has learnt there lesson last season and I doubt if that can repeat itself again because they will have no option than to fire Alonso.

You're very correct I can remember when PSG had the best squad we all thought would win the Champions League a squad made up of Messi, Neymar, Mbappé and other top players like Sergio Ramos and so but they couldn't win the Champions League trophy cause of miss management so Inasmuch as a club's spending power is very good, they still need a very good coach to manage the players properly.

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But it really surprises me on how xavi Alonso will count a player like Rodrigo out of his plan for the upcoming 2025/2026 campaign,
We can't  really say what  exactly is the plan for him but he's clearly not on his top priority list for the team..
There's probably something about the player itself or with the club at large because last season , he had same fate with Ancelotti  and he got benched almost throughout  the season..
Thus, either an issue with the club or the managers having doubts  using him  doesn't  look good for him and the best he could just do for himself is leaving the club  if he got a chance /offer .

 
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August 07, 2025, 10:37:50 PM

Real Madrid has a financial strength as a matter of fact I think they are among the richest club in the whole world if not the richest amongst others. But sometimes it is not about having financial strength and buying of best player, the problem is how to manage them properly, I remember when Paris Saint Germain squad was mad but guess what happened to them, they were finding it difficult to win a trophy aside there own league i mean it was that bad and crazy. Real Madrid has learnt there lesson last season and I doubt if that can repeat itself again because they will have no option than to fire Alonso.

You're very correct I can remember when PSG had the best squad we all thought would win the Champions League a squad made up of Messi, Neymar, Mbappé and other top players like Sergio Ramos and so but they couldn't win the Champions League trophy cause of miss management so Inasmuch as a club's spending power is very good, they still need a very good coach to manage the players properly.
Real Madrid have experienced failure with the Los Galacticos project in the past, and they have certainly learned a lot from that experience. For now, we'll have to wait and see how Xabi Alonso performs in managing Real Madrid luxurious squad, and we know it's no easy task.
Xabi Alonso already demonstrated his managerial skills at Leverkusen, successfully delivering trophies with a squad that wasn't as luxurious as Real Madrid. So, I think, with the depth of his current squad, Xabi Alonso should be able to live up to expectations.

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It seems that you don't know Real Madrid that much, or you just choose to underestimate them that they haven't made any effort to improve their performance and there is no evidence on that. Have you forgotten that Real Madrid only get worse in a season and become better the next season because they always learn from their mistakes. They have the financial strength to buy any player they want in order to strengthen and cover up the loop holes in in team.
Perhaps it's not that you don't know Real Madrid well enough, but rather that you dislike Real Madrid, which makes it seem like you don't know them. Personally, I haven't seen Real Madrid slump for more than two seasons, and Real Madrid usually bounces back after a season of failure in La Liga. But next season, I'm also unsure whether Real Madrid will be able to bounce back and win La Liga, as finishing runner-up is not a desirable position for a Real Madrid team with a considerable trophy collection in major competitions, including La Liga.

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If Xavi Alonso has said that the player doesn't fit into his style of play then there is no reason arguing about the future of the players again leaving the club should be the Best thing to do for the carrier of the player you don't expect the player to be on the bench because obviously there are alot of players that can replace him at his position

He is a player with immense potential, and at his young age, he is not only capable of returning to his best form but also has the potential to develop further. Therefore, I hope he stays at Real Madrid. Although he may not be part of the manager's plans and is likely to sit on the bench, I think the team could consider loaning Rodrygo Gos to another club so he can continue playing regularly and get more playing time. It is very difficult for a player to return to his best form if he is only given limited playing time.

Additionally, in the modern era of football, it is very difficult to find players who truly possess excellent skills on the field, as many players today command high prices and salaries, but their skills and performance on the field do not match their value.



It would be an unbelievable waste if a player like Rodrygo spends most of his career on a bench. It is possible that he won't become a continuous starter for Real Madrid, but I think he would most likely play full time at any other club. Therefore he should consider to leave Real Madrid. As a Brazilian national player he shouldn't accept a role as a substitute only. He will get his time in Madrid, but it might not be enough. As far as I can tell, I think he has a great character. it is not like Gareth Bale who was found sleeping on the bench and playing golf when there were scheduled team meetings.

Did Alonso say out loud that Rodrygo is not a priority for him or where does that information come from?

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Are you sure you watched the club world cup? When did Real Madrid play with Chelsea? Or are you mistaken PSG for Chelsea? Now talking about that defeat, firstly it was two costly errors from the defenders in two different occasions but within a short period of time. PSG were the more superior team even before going into the match which we all know and if a team concedes two early goals against a more superior opponent then the morale of the team was automatically be shattered. That's exactly what happened to them in that very match.
I watch the match of course and I don't think that question was necessary because I wasnt talking like someone who didn't watch the club world cup matches, if you should go through what I wrote thoroughly, you'll understand that I was trying to say that Realmadrid was defeated by the club Chelsea dealt with which is PSG, may be you didn't understand my text very well, I responded to this quickly because I wanted you grab what I was saying,  those costly errors that came from those two defenders was from which team defenders exactly? I didn't want it to look like we are over stressing this matter, the truth remains that Realmadrid has not done anything that will convince us that they have improved, may be I will agree that we should keep things as they are until the new season that's by the corner kickstarts.
Well Real Madrid doesn't need to convince you on anything in the first place. Real Madrid will always be Real Madrid from now till even the next century. Talking about Chelsea beating PSG just because it was PSG that beat Real Madrid says it all. So because Inter Milan eliminated Barcelona and PSG thrashed the same Inter Milan that eliminated Barcelona means people should keep on complaining about Barcelona? Football doesn't work that way, every game and every opponent is a different ball game entirely.

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August 07, 2025, 11:45:59 PM

Not Xavi, but Xabi Alonso. If the current Real Madrid manager truly doesn't want a player like Rodrygo, he should certainly offer him the best way forward by letting him go to another team without having to pay a hefty fee, even though the player is still quite young at the moment. But it's not just about age; it's more about allowing the player to leave peacefully without any obstacles from the team. I think Real Madrid will still struggle next season if their attack remains the same as last season. Furthermore, an injury to one of their forwards could also hinder Real Madrid's recovery next season, so Madrid should think carefully before letting a young player like Rodrygo go to another team.

We are sure that Xabi Alonso will not keep Rodrygo in his starting XI. Rodrygo is not even given a chance in the FIFA World Cup. Also, Xabi prefers Garcia over Rodrygo.

However, I think Real Madrid has not yet reached a decision on Rodrygo. They want to let Rodrygo go. At the same time, Madrid does not have a suitable replacement if Vini or Mbappe get injured. So the Madrid management is not showing much interest in selling Rodrygo. Since Madrid plays on a very busy schedule, Real Madrid will try to win every title in the Champions League, La Liga and Copa del Rey. So the chances of players facing injuries are high. Rodrygo could be a suitable replacement. So the Madrid management may not decide to sell Rodrygo before the next winter transfer window.

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August 08, 2025, 01:00:16 AM

After Ter Stegen's refusal of allowing Barcelona to share his medical report with La Liga which will in turn give Barcelona the right to slash his salary by almost 80% since his injured which again will give Barcelona the go ahead to register Garcia and Rashford for the new season. Stegen has refused to yield and Barcelona has taken action against him by stripping him off the captains armband. Lol, this is just another drama, he wouldn't even care much. Most Barcelona fans is saying they should sell him. Lol, you can't sell an injured player and besides his still on contract with the club, you can't terminate it without paying him.

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