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August 18, 2019, 09:02:31 PM
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https://btcmiddleman.com

Introduction:
Introducing the most secure escrow platform for Bitcoin & Litecoin transactions! Buy or sell anything with the confidence that your coins are safe. We offer high security options and instant payouts. It's time to kick risky transactions and scammers to the curb and make safer transactions!

Features:

  • Secure - Escrow data encrypted with AES, a government standard encryption. We also offer a option to delete encrypted keys from our server after transaction completion, this makes it impossible to recover your escrow data.
  • Private - we only need your email and bitcoin address
  • Fast - Instant notifications & payouts

How It Works? Get started in 3 easy steps Smiley

1. Create Transaction
You must be registered to create a transaction. You will choose if you are the Buyer or Seller and then enter the transaction details and your on your way!

2. Invite User to Transaction
Copy your invitation link and send it off to the user you are doing the transaction with.

3. Chat & Complete Transaction
After funds are received the Seller sends the goods or completes his required services and when when the Buyer is satisfied they will finalize the transaction!

If the transaction is disputed, we provide a resolution that will either end with the Buyer being refunded or the funds being released to the Seller.

What are the fees?

Transaction Less Than or Equal To 0.0099 BTC = 3%
Transaction More than 0.0099 BTC+ = 1%

Transaction Less Than or Equal To 0.99 LTC = 3%
Transaction More than 0.99 LTC+ = 1%

Come join the family today!
https://btcmiddleman.com/sign-up
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August 18, 2019, 09:16:53 PM
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Not to be salty but below 0.01 transactions are way too high 3%? No thanks.! Also its much better to trust up old time reputable members on this forum rather than using a new service.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

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September 11, 2019, 08:07:00 PM
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Not to be salty but below 0.01 transactions are way too high 3%? No thanks.! Also its much better to trust up old time reputable members on this forum rather than using a new service.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

Thanks for your input, BitDice. In fairness, plenty of middleman services have a minimum of 0.01 BTC. We decided to give users the benefit of the doubt and allow smaller transactions with the addition of a higher fee. Regardless, your suggestions will be noted and change may come in the future.

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September 12, 2019, 06:30:22 AM
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Since we are talking about a service that requires a lot of trust, you should be more transparent saying:

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- Where is the site owner located?

- Do you have a license?

- How many employees do you have?

- Where is your business located?

- Do you have a phone number?

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September 12, 2019, 10:49:33 PM
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  • Secure - Escrow data encrypted with AES, a government standard encryption. We also offer a option to delete encrypted keys from our server after transaction completion, this makes it impossible to recover your escrow data.


How we can be sure that keys will be safely deleted and there is no other copy in your database? Must believe in your words?


Since we are talking about a service that requires a lot of trust, you should be more transparent saying:

- Who is the site owner?

- Where is the site owner located?

- Do you have a license?

- How many employees do you have?

- Where is your business located?

- Do you have a phone number?

All information about website owners is protected by WhoisGuard, we must believe in his words.

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Domain name: btcmiddleman.com
Registry Domain ID: 2376846048_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Creation Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller: NAMECHEAP INC
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected

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All information about website owners is protected by WhoisGuard, we must believe in his words.

Code:
Domain name: btcmiddleman.com
Registry Domain ID: 2376846048_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Creation Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller: NAMECHEAP INC
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
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is unbelievable, we are constantly saying, "don't trade without using escrow ..." and in that same forum there are reputable people who provide escrow services, and then a new member who has a new website and says this is offering escrow service.

He has not done any research to find out what kind of advantage he should have against the most trusted and reputable members. I wonder:

do these guys not understand the basics of marketing? Don't they know that in trade it is crucial to know your competitors? every day I am surprised by many things

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So you are back after 3 years. Has anyone on Bitcointalk ever used your services? There is no feedback to your name and the business is being done off-site. How would someone benefit from using your escrow services rather than getting in touch with a trusted forum member who has already completed numerous deals and takes a smaller cut? Judging by the OP, you haven't updated your fees. 

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From fees:
0.0001 Bitcoin:
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Total Fee: 0.000004000000000000001 BTC
Is that related to this PHP question?

Not to be salty but below 0.01 transactions are way too high 3%? No thanks.! Also its much better to trust up old time reputable members
All of the escrows you've linked charge more for small transactions. There are of course trust issues, but even using the most trusted escrow on Bitcointalk doesn't guarantee you can't lose $50,000.

The Most Secure Bitcoin and Litecoin Escrow service!
That's a strong claim! It would help your business if you can convince people that it's true.

Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
  • Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
  • If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
  • Escrow verifies product.
  • Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest?

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Not to be salty but you are a random and now you want to open escrow service?
No information abotu who is behind the site to trust you.

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All information about website owners is protected by WhoisGuard, we must believe in his words.

Code:
Domain name: btcmiddleman.com
Registry Domain ID: 2376846048_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Creation Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller: NAMECHEAP INC
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected

is unbelievable, we are constantly saying, "don't trade without using escrow ..." and in that same forum there are reputable people who provide escrow services, and then a new member who has a new website and says this is offering escrow service.

He has not done any research to find out what kind of advantage he should have against the most trusted and reputable members. I wonder:

do these guys not understand the basics of marketing? Don't they know that in trade it is crucial to know your competitors? every day I am surprised by many things

The advantage we have is that we provide a secure and convenient service, you don't have to wait for a middle man to be online you can process a transaction at anytime 24/7 with our service. Not to mention its quick, easy and withdrawals are instant.

Not to be salty but you are a random and now you want to open escrow service?
No information abotu who is behind the site to trust you.

We are based in the US and Trust will be built throughout time. We have been around for years and never had any accusations against us, so far we have processed over 40+ transactions since our return and believe our fees are competitive.


The Most Secure Bitcoin and Litecoin Escrow service!
That's a strong claim! It would help your business if you can convince people that it's true.

Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
  • Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
  • If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
  • Escrow verifies product.
  • Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest?

How our disputes are handled can be found on our FAQ here

If a dispute is initiated, staff can see the terms & chat and resolve the dispute by either refunding the buyer or releasing the funds to the seller.
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Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
  • Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
  • If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
  • Escrow verifies product.
  • Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest?

How our disputes are handled can be found on our FAQ here
Allow me to quote your website:
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How are disputes handled?

Once a dispute is opened, both parties will be able to message and upload evidence from their side of the story. The dispute will then be reviewed and resolved by the BTCMiddleMan.com Team. In most cases, we will either refund the Buyer or release funds to the Seller.
This doesn't address any of the concerns. If the escrow doesn't verify the product, it's impossible to know who's honest.

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Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
  • Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
  • If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
  • Escrow verifies product.
  • Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest?

How our disputes are handled can be found on our FAQ here
Allow me to quote your website:
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How are disputes handled?

Once a dispute is opened, both parties will be able to message and upload evidence from their side of the story. The dispute will then be reviewed and resolved by the BTCMiddleMan.com Team. In most cases, we will either refund the Buyer or release funds to the Seller.
This doesn't address any of the concerns. If the escrow doesn't verify the product, it's impossible to know who's honest.

That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
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That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Is the product shipped to you?

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That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Are you telling me we should believe that someone used your BTCMiddleMan website for transacting 28 Bitcoins last week, like it is written in one single TrustPilot review page by some anon guy Matt H.?
Sorry but I find that hard to believe, it looks like a fake review to me, and I guess you can't prove this transaction even happened using your website.
I mean you can always make transaction to yourself, but I doubt you have 28 BTC for that.

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That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Are you telling me we should believe that someone used your BTCMiddleMan website for transacting 28 Bitcoins last week, like it is written in one single TrustPilot review page by some anon guy Matt H.?
Sorry but I find that hard to believe, it looks like a fake review to me, and I guess you can't prove this transaction even happened using your website.
I mean you can always make transaction to yourself, but I doubt you have 28 BTC for that.

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Did a 28 BTC transaction through BTCMiddleMan.com and had no issues! Thank you!
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/btcmiddleman.com

We have private vendors that we work with who use our website for big transactions all the time. We have the fastest and most secure escrow right now! You are not obligated to use the service if you do not trust it at the moment, we understand trust will need to be built in this community.

That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Is the product shipped to you?

We encourage to use the platform for digital transactions and not physical although we can work these disputes as well
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Last edit: July 22, 2022, 08:42:40 AM by LoyceV
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I doubt you have 28 BTC for that.
We have private vendors that we work with who use our website for big transactions all the time.
Can you sign a message saying "Hi LoyceV, this is btcmiddleman.com proving we processed 28 Bitcoin"? Sign it from the address that held 28 Bitcoin a few days ago, and you'll get credibility instead of just an incredible story. If you don't want to post the address publicly, feel free to PM me and I'll confirm ownership of the address without posting the address.
2% fee on 28 Bitcoin is close to $13,000. I find that hard to believe.

We encourage to use the platform for digital transactions and not physical
Don't lie:
After funds are received the Seller sends the goods

although we can work these disputes as well
How?
Alice says she shipped 10 kg of gold, Bob says he received 10 kg of lead. How can you possibly know who's lying?



Maybe OP can explain how he went from 1 review 9 days ago to 10 more reviews in 6 hours since you posted this link. @OP: any chance you bought those reviews? It's so obvious! I love how Emma and Robert use the same avatar:
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This is interesting:
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Domain name: btcmiddleman.com
Registry Domain ID: 2376846048_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Creation Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Now check the current data:
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   Domain Name: BTCMIDDLEMAN.COM                                                                                                                                                                              
   Registry Domain ID: 2695044078_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN                                                                                                                                                            
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.tucows.com                                                                                                                                                                  
   Registrar URL: http://www.tucows.com                                                                                                                                                                      
   Updated Date: 2022-05-10T02:16:14Z                                                                                                                                                                        
   Creation Date: 2022-05-10T01:19:43Z                                                                                                                                                                        
   Registry Expiry Date: 2023-05-10T01:19:43Z                                                                                                                                                                
   Registrar: Tucows Domains Inc.

This is what I think happened: The service didn't get any customers, and let their domain name expire. Someone found this topic, and saw an opportunity. He bought the domain name on May 10, 2022. I can't verify it, but I think the Bitcointalk account had an email address linking to that domain. On June 18, he reset the password via email:
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6/18/2022 9:22:19 PM 	password reset via email
6/18/2022 9:23:19 PM woke up
A day later, this topic was bumped.



If I'm right, the Bitcointalk account and domain name both have a new owner. OP claims to have "private vendors" that do "big transactions all the time" to fake credibility. OP claims to be "most secure escrow", but buys fake reviews on Trust Pilot. I think this is an exit scam waiting to happen, and I do not trust this user and website. Be very careful!

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Maybe Emma and Robert are identical twins, so they dress and look the same. Grin
I have zero experience with blockchain analysis, but unless I am wrong, there was only one transaction that was carried out from 1-13 July 2022 involving an output of 28 bitcoins. That one was sent on 8 July. That (obviously not fake) review (at all) doesn't mention the time when the transaction supposedly happened. I would like to see that signed message as well, or better yet an excuse why OP can't do it.   

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there was only one transaction that was carried out from 1-13 July 2022 involving an output of 28 bitcoins.
The 2% fee makes it even more obvious: the 28 Bitcoin should be split up into 0.56 Bitcoin fee and 27.44 Bitcoin for the "seller".

I left OP neutral feedback referring to my previous post.

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July 22, 2022, 11:27:17 AM
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Maybe OP can explain[/b] how he went from 1 review 9 days ago to 10 more reviews in 6 hours since you posted this link. @OP: any chance you bought those reviews? It's so obvious! I love how Emma and Robert use the same avatar
It must be some secret magic spell that was triggered and activated with my Trustpilot question being asked in public  Cheesy
Interesting thing that all people who allegedly made feedback have only one single review in Trustpilot, that is highly unusual for real people, but not so much for bots and fake accounts.

This is what I think happened: The service didn't get any customers, and let their domain name expire. Someone found this topic, and saw an opportunity. He bought the domain name on May 10, 2022. I can't verify it, but I think the Bitcointalk account had an email address linking to that domain. On June 18, he reset the password via email
Interesting theory, and everything about this website looks suspicious.
I can't wait to see new comments and explanations from OP, maybe he is going to proved proof for this deals with signing a message.

I have zero experience with blockchain analysis, but unless I am wrong, there was only one transaction that was carried out from 1-13 July 2022 involving an output of 28 bitcoins. That one was sent on 8 July. That (obviously not fake) review (at all) doesn't mention the time when the transaction supposedly happened. I would like to see that signed message as well, or better yet an excuse why OP can't do it.  
I would be happy to see transaction proof for 28 BTC minus fee, and for all other alleged transaction that popped up recently, but he is probably going to say that he can't provide proof for privacy reasons.

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