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September 12, 2019, 10:15:44 AM
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It looks like there are more hype in this fight as expected.

Spence-Porter FOX Countdown Show Drew 604,000 Viewers

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An Errol Spence Jr.-Shawn Porter preview show drew more viewers Saturday night than some main events televised this year on basic cable and premium cable. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

According to Nielsen Media Research figures released Tuesday, an average of 604,000 viewers watched FOX’s live airing of “PBC Countdown: Errol Spence Jr. Vs. Shawn Porter” on network television. The 30-minute program aired on the East Coast late Saturday night, following FOX’s live telecast of a college football game, Penn State’s 45-13 win over Buffalo, that aired in prime time.

https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

This is big numbers I do hope that it will reflect on the actual fight and draw close to that numbers as well. It means that boxing is still on the mainstream although we don't have Mayweather as top US boxing attraction.

I doubt that will translate to PPV buys, nobody really cares about Porter to be honest, people had high hopes early in his career but he never really reached his full potential. Now he's slightly older and has been beaten odds of him being great are pretty low.

TBH, even Errol Spence isn't that big of a name, not too many people care about what happens in the lower weight classes, unless it's Canelo.
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September 12, 2019, 10:19:32 AM
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Here are some videos:

Spence Jr vs Porter Kick Off Press Conference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xiRx9OgBFI

Spence Jr vs Porter Preview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVjDDdzTKqQ

Spence Jr vs Porter Face to Face - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJlNkS_sa8

Whoever wins here might ask for Pacquiao's match. After all, most of the boxing fights are for money. And they are striking the iron while it is hot. Pacman is no doubt can attract a sizeable number of crowd to earn big money.

This is a great motivation for the two fighters, the opportunity to fight Pacquiao because any Pacquiao fight against a young fighter is always a mega-fight, every fighter in this generation wants a piece of Pacquiao because everyone here wants to be the one to retire the great Manny Pacquiao.

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September 12, 2019, 10:25:18 AM
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This is gonna be a great match,  Porter fan here because I love underdog and I like to have Spence his first loss because this is so favorite to win in this fight. I just like to try my luck betting on the dog as the return is bigger, in boxing nowadays upsets happen, yes, if Porter will win, this could be an upset because Porter is undervalued in this fight.

According to - https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

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Most odds-makers have installed the unbeaten Spence as at least a 9-1 favorite over Porter.
Great odds for the underdog.

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September 12, 2019, 10:29:21 AM
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It looks like there are more hype in this fight as expected.

Spence-Porter FOX Countdown Show Drew 604,000 Viewers

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An Errol Spence Jr.-Shawn Porter preview show drew more viewers Saturday night than some main events televised this year on basic cable and premium cable. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

According to Nielsen Media Research figures released Tuesday, an average of 604,000 viewers watched FOX’s live airing of “PBC Countdown: Errol Spence Jr. Vs. Shawn Porter” on network television. The 30-minute program aired on the East Coast late Saturday night, following FOX’s live telecast of a college football game, Penn State’s 45-13 win over Buffalo, that aired in prime time.

https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

This is big numbers I do hope that it will reflect on the actual fight and draw close to that numbers as well. It means that boxing is still on the mainstream although we don't have Mayweather as top US boxing attraction.

I doubt that will translate to PPV buys, nobody really cares about Porter to be honest, people had high hopes early in his career but he never really reached his full potential. Now he's slightly older and has been beaten odds of him being great are pretty low.

TBH, even Errol Spence isn't that big of a name, not too many people care about what happens in the lower weight classes, unless it's Canelo.

Let's see mate, his numbers if I'm not mistaken was around 360,000 PPV vs Mikey Garcia.

Fury vs Wilder is around 325,000.

So probably doing 400,000-500,000 PPV is not bad after all right?

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September 19, 2019, 08:27:02 AM
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Errol Spence: I Knew If I Couldn't Get Pacquiao, I'd Get Porter

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“I knew there was a chance I wasn’t gonna get Pacquiao,” Spence (25-0, 21KOs) admitted during a recent media conference call in discussing his upcoming clash with Porter (30-2-1, 17KOs). “I mean, Pacquiao was the bigger name and the bigger fight, so of course I wanted that fight.”

“Shawn Porter is a champion, too. He has a belt, so I definitely wanted to unify the titles. I always knew that if I couldn’t get Pacquiao that there was a good chance I was going to get Shawn Porter.”

It was all but confirmed

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-i-knew-if-i-get-pacquiao-id-get-porter--142664

I think there is a possibility that we can see Pacquiao vs Spence Jr. in the future. But first Errol needs to get ride of Porter because it's not going to an easy fight for him, and after that, he can inject himself in a Pacquaio clash and possible the biggest paycheck of his career.

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September 19, 2019, 09:07:37 AM
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What an odds for Porter.I might consider to put up some bets on him but my views on whose gonna win will be on Spence.
Just like what been said above when it comes to fast jabs and reach,spence do have it and i love how he humbly said this line “I’m definitely not underestimating Shawn Porter,” but i do see different or the other way around with this words.lol

Yeah, such a huge difference on betting odds for the two. I think if Porter can make this an upset and defeat Spence many would win big. Anyways, Spence is on a different level than Porter so I guess I would go put my money on Spence with this match.

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September 19, 2019, 09:16:59 AM
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What an odds for Porter.I might consider to put up some bets on him but my views on whose gonna win will be on Spence.
Just like what been said above when it comes to fast jabs and reach,spence do have it and i love how he humbly said this line “I’m definitely not underestimating Shawn Porter,” but i do see different or the other way around with this words.lol

Yeah, such a huge difference on betting odds for the two. I think if Porter can make this an upset and defeat Spence many would win big. Anyways, Spence is on a different level than Porter so I guess I would go put my money on Spence with this match.

It's not wise to put your money for a chance to win 9% of your bet, I would just have to let it go if I were you, just enjoy the match, it's not worth betting at all. Porter may win, that's likely but your are risking your money if upset could happen, if you really want to enjoy and you have a little belief that porter could upset Spence here, go bet on the other side.

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September 19, 2019, 11:22:22 AM
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Update September 19, 2019

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A slight changes in odds. Porter, Shawn odds keeps increasing and Spence, Errol still favourites as usual of bettors.

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September 19, 2019, 11:38:43 AM
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1.02 10.61 (https://www.optibet.lv/en/sportsbook/ boxing > Matchups) - that what I call a total mismatch Cheesy

I find this kind of matches very intense. One can do a relax boxing and get an injury, while other will show 200% and still will lose.

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September 19, 2019, 12:00:13 PM
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Update September 19, 2019

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A slight changes in odds. Porter, Shawn odds keeps increasing and Spence, Errol still favourites as usual of bettors.

1.08? holy cow Cheesy


Much better to just watch his fight and not to bet on Spence. On the contrary, if people wanted to see some upsets and think that Porter has the balls and heart to bring the fight to Spence and not give him some room to create his sweet sport, then the odds for Porter is very good, in my opinion.

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September 19, 2019, 12:28:10 PM
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Update September 19, 2019

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A slight changes in odds. Porter, Shawn odds keeps increasing and Spence, Errol still favourites as usual of bettors.

1.08? holy cow Cheesy


Much better to just watch his fight and not to bet on Spence. On the contrary, if people wanted to see some upsets and think that Porter has the balls and heart to bring the fight to Spence and not give him some room to create his sweet sport, then the odds for Porter is very good, in my opinion.

LOL, it looks like we already know who will win in this fight, this isn't an attractive one based on the line, it could be a one sided fight fully dominated by Spence. Manny vs Thurman was way more exciting than this as it opens as Thurman as the favorites but close to the scheduled fight, the odds was flip and Manny has become the favorites.

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September 19, 2019, 04:42:39 PM
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Update September 19, 2019

Sportsbet Odds:


A slight changes in odds. Porter, Shawn odds keeps increasing and Spence, Errol still favourites as usual of bettors.

1.08? holy cow Cheesy


Much better to just watch his fight and not to bet on Spence. On the contrary, if people wanted to see some upsets and think that Porter has the balls and heart to bring the fight to Spence and not give him some room to create his sweet sport, then the odds for Porter is very good, in my opinion.

LOL, it looks like we already know who will win in this fight, this isn't an attractive one based on the line, it could be a one sided fight fully dominated by Spence. Manny vs Thurman was way more exciting than this as it opens as Thurman as the favorites but close to the scheduled fight, the odds was flip and Manny has become the favorites.

I think the fight will be excited Porter knows about the odds and he is the underdog, this will double or even triple his determination to win and beat Spence, Porter is a former champion and he wins against a tough fighters in the ring, in fact if there will be a rematch against Thurman, this guy has a big chance.

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September 20, 2019, 10:14:59 AM
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This is gonna be a great match,  Porter fan here because I love underdog and I like to have Spence his first loss because this is so favorite to win in this fight. I just like to try my luck betting on the dog as the return is bigger, in boxing nowadays upsets happen, yes, if Porter will win, this could be an upset because Porter is undervalued in this fight.

According to - https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

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Most odds-makers have installed the unbeaten Spence as at least a 9-1 favorite over Porter.
Great odds for the underdog.

9-1 is very huge it's a shut off for porter and tho think Porter is a former champion I don't think the gap is not that wide, Spence uses his jab and reaches effectively the proof is on his last fight against Garcia, but Porter can slug it out, we have a good and should close fight here not this kind where Porter is a big underdog.

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This is gonna be a great match,  Porter fan here because I love underdog and I like to have Spence his first loss because this is so favorite to win in this fight. I just like to try my luck betting on the dog as the return is bigger, in boxing nowadays upsets happen, yes, if Porter will win, this could be an upset because Porter is undervalued in this fight.

According to - https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

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Most odds-makers have installed the unbeaten Spence as at least a 9-1 favorite over Porter.
Great odds for the underdog.

9-1 is very huge it's a shut off for porter and tho think Porter is a former champion I don't think the gap is not that wide, Spence uses his jab and reaches effectively the proof is on his last fight against Garcia, but Porter can slug it out, we have a good and should close fight here not this kind where Porter is a big underdog.

That's one key strength of Porter, and I'm sure that it will be his game plan from the time the bell rings.

Spence will used his jab, Porter trying to negate it by coming inside and slugging it out and try to test Spence ability. So it's really going to be close as well,  9-1 is disrespectful to say the least because Porter is also a world champion.

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September 20, 2019, 11:48:09 AM
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This is gonna be a great match,  Porter fan here because I love underdog and I like to have Spence his first loss because this is so favorite to win in this fight. I just like to try my luck betting on the dog as the return is bigger, in boxing nowadays upsets happen, yes, if Porter will win, this could be an upset because Porter is undervalued in this fight.

According to - https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

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Most odds-makers have installed the unbeaten Spence as at least a 9-1 favorite over Porter.
Great odds for the underdog.

9-1 is very huge it's a shut off for porter and tho think Porter is a former champion I don't think the gap is not that wide, Spence uses his jab and reaches effectively the proof is on his last fight against Garcia, but Porter can slug it out, we have a good and should close fight here not this kind where Porter is a big underdog.

That's one key strength of Porter, and I'm sure that it will be his game plan from the time the bell rings.

Spence will used his jab, Porter trying to negate it by coming inside and slugging it out and try to test Spence ability. So it's really going to be close as well,  9-1 is disrespectful to say the least because Porter is also a world champion.

Whoever wins this match will face Manny Pacquiao and this could be the biggest test on Manny Pacquiao's campaign, both fighters are on their prime, they are not coming up from a long lay off, like what happens to Thurman whose performance suffers from a long lay off.

But I agree that it's a big injustice for Porter to have an underdog tag, this guy is no patsy, he can fight and it's hard to dominate him with his style.

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September 20, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
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Whoever wins this match will face Manny Pacquiao.......

Do you have a reliable source on this?
I love to see Manny fight again but I doubt Manny would allow himself to fight a younger champion like Spence.
Manny is old and has slowed down, and I don't think he can match a younger opponent like Spence, if he will fight again, it should be Mayweather as his last fight.

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September 21, 2019, 03:35:03 AM
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Whoever wins this match will face Manny Pacquiao.......

Do you have a reliable source on this?
I love to see Manny fight again but I doubt Manny would allow himself to fight a younger champion like Spence.
Manny is old and has slowed down, and I don't think he can match a younger opponent like Spence, if he will fight again, it should be Mayweather as his last fight.

That's the expectation and that's what boxing fans wanted to see, for Manny to fight the winner of this match. However, you have a valid concern and I for one agree that Spence Jr really post a threat but we will see and enjoy this match, two boxers at their prime, best welterweight today so it's going to be exciting.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RMPiaxNt2o - Shawn Porter's Full Media Workout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muix-OksVsU - Errol Spence Mitt Workout

It's going to be a sure fire exciting fight and I think this should be one of the biggest fight this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTp3r4S91gE - Errol Spence Jr. and Shawn Porter | FIGHT CAMP | EPISODE 1 | PBC ON FOX


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This is gonna be a great match,  Porter fan here because I love underdog and I like to have Spence his first loss because this is so favorite to win in this fight. I just like to try my luck betting on the dog as the return is bigger, in boxing nowadays upsets happen, yes, if Porter will win, this could be an upset because Porter is undervalued in this fight.

According to - https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

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Most odds-makers have installed the unbeaten Spence as at least a 9-1 favorite over Porter.
Great odds for the underdog.

9-1 is very huge it's a shut off for porter and tho think Porter is a former champion I don't think the gap is not that wide, Spence uses his jab and reaches effectively the proof is on his last fight against Garcia, but Porter can slug it out, we have a good and should close fight here not this kind where Porter is a big underdog.

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Whoever wins this match will face Manny Pacquiao and this could be the biggest test on Manny Pacquiao's campaign, both fighters are on their prime, they are not coming up from a long lay off, like what happens to Thurman whose performance suffers from a long lay off.

But I agree that it's a big injustice for Porter to have an underdog tag, this guy is no patsy, he can fight and it's hard to dominate him with his style.

Exactly, the Danny Garcia fight already proved that. I think he was also the underdog at that time and was below the judges scorecard in the early rounds. But he adapt and listen to his dad and change his style in the mid rounds and rough Garcia.

Although he was hit in return, but there are a lot of close rounds and usually judges gives it to the aggressor that's why he was able to squeeze a close decision and win the belt. So I'm seeing another performance by Porter similar to Garcia's fight, make his opponent uncomfortable and close the gap.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RMPiaxNt2o - Shawn Porter's Full Media Workout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muix-OksVsU - Errol Spence Mitt Workout

It's going to be a sure fire exciting fight and I think this should be one of the biggest fight this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTp3r4S91gE - Errol Spence Jr. and Shawn Porter | FIGHT CAMP | EPISODE 1 | PBC ON FOX



Porter is all flare up coming to the fight he has a lot of motivation, and if Spence is the big favorite here, then there is a big possibility of another major upset here just like what happened to the Joshua - Ruiz fight and this might even compete for that match if ever Porter knocks out Spence.

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