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September 29, 2019, 07:22:53 AM
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It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.
I shall say that this is should how boxing looks like.Giving out their best and fight for their hearts content. Classic in fight and giving out body blows.
The thing i dont like on how they do score out that 116-111 for porter?If that one doesnt have knockdown i would say that Porter would have it.
Rematch would be soon for sure.

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September 29, 2019, 07:39:04 AM
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It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.
I shall say that this is should how boxing looks like.Giving out their best and fight for their hearts content. Classic in fight and giving out body blows.
The thing i dont like on how they do score out that 116-111 for porter?If that one doesnt have knockdown i would say that Porter would have it.
Rematch would be soon for sure.
I agree that it was a classic fight, if Porter wasn't knock down the fight could have been obviously close in the book. However, Porter try to fought back during the same round, he did everything he could and he really make Spence uncomfortable fighting inside, it's that he was just hitting the gloves of Spence.

It was a gallant effort on his end, props for Porter, though I was thinking of a Pacquaio vs Porter would be more interesting because of their styles. We have know that style makes fight so a raging bull like Porter will be a good match up for Pacquiao.

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September 29, 2019, 08:03:30 AM
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It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.
I shall say that this is should how boxing looks like.Giving out their best and fight for their hearts content. Classic in fight and giving out body blows.
The thing i dont like on how they do score out that 116-111 for porter?If that one doesnt have knockdown i would say that Porter would have it.
Rematch would be soon for sure.
I agree that it was a classic fight, if Porter wasn't knock down the fight could have been obviously close in the book. However, Porter try to fought back during the same round, he did everything he could and he really make Spence uncomfortable fighting inside, it's that he was just hitting the gloves of Spence.

It was a gallant effort on his end, props for Porter, though I was thinking of a Pacquaio vs Porter would be more interesting because of their styles. We have know that style makes fight so a raging bull like Porter will be a good match up for Pacquiao.
Thrown punches by porter is mostly being blocked and thats the difference among the two and that do give out points for spence.
Scores is somewhat clear but wont really be that huge gap.I do love to see infights- brawl to brawl rather than seeing running and clinching most of the time.
This recent fight shows on whose the one do have the longer or higher stamina.Pacquiao and Porter? interesting but i would be eyeing first for the rematch.

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September 29, 2019, 08:43:11 AM
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It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.
I shall say that this is should how boxing looks like.Giving out their best and fight for their hearts content. Classic in fight and giving out body blows.
The thing i dont like on how they do score out that 116-111 for porter?If that one doesnt have knockdown i would say that Porter would have it.
Rematch would be soon for sure.
I agree that it was a classic fight, if Porter wasn't knock down the fight could have been obviously close in the book. However, Porter try to fought back during the same round, he did everything he could and he really make Spence uncomfortable fighting inside, it's that he was just hitting the gloves of Spence.

It was a gallant effort on his end, props for Porter, though I was thinking of a Pacquaio vs Porter would be more interesting because of their styles. We have known that style makes fight so a raging bull like Porter will be a good match up for Pacquiao.
I was hoping that Porter and Pacquiao will push through because they have similar fights, the fight was so close it could go either way, we have seen that Spence is not that tough fighter if a fighter is very aggressive, and has good speed Spence will have a hard time, if Pacquiao can maintain the speed he has shown in the recent Thurman fight he has a chance.

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September 29, 2019, 09:17:29 AM
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I just watched the replay on Youtube and that knockdown well it's not really a knockdown it's more of an off-balance but Porter was hit by a shot when throwing a punch and that made the difference in the scorecard, there should be a rematch but Spence will be going against Pacquiao next year.

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September 29, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
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I just watched the replay on Youtube and that knockdown well it's not really a knockdown it's more of an off-balance but Porter was hit by a shot when throwing a punch and that made the difference in the scorecard, there should be a rematch but Spence will be going against Pacquiao next year.

He was hit, got outbalanced and touched the floor by his gloves, and that was called a knock down.
I also review some highlights, and if you want to see the a knock down, you can view it in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOSbaEe1KU  Grin

No more excuses now, this was a close fight, the knock down was a big difference.

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September 29, 2019, 10:08:24 AM
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No more excuses now, this was a close fight, the knock down was a big difference.
Yeah! That's why it was fair to end a match into a split decision. Even Porter kneel into his knees (in all fairness he got a hard chin) it's doesn't create a very huge point gap against Spence Jr. like some of you think because his aggresiveness lift him up.

Speaking of aggresiveness, I think that's the main mistake Porter did. Hmm, that thing is good for the viewers because it makes the match action-packed however w can't deny that there is side effect on the boxer's side. As we witnessed, Porter was drained  most especially during the last round. It was very obvious, you can see it on his speed reduction and his punches get sloppier. Nonetheless, he is a great fighter. He has a big heart because he gave all out in this fight. He also deserve some respect, no doubt about it Cheesy.
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September 29, 2019, 10:57:52 AM
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It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.

Strange that one judge give it to Porter. He was aggressive but missing a lot, at least that's the way I saw the fight, and it should be UD for Spence.

@NavI_027 - even in the early rounds he was too sloppy with his punches and Spence capitalising on it.

So let's see Spence vs Pacquaio for all the glory and see who is the best welterweight.

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September 29, 2019, 11:01:40 AM
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What would a victory for Errol Spence imply for his next fight? Would it be versus Terrence Crawford? I reckon there is no fight that would be more exciting other than that except Pacman versus Money Floyd or Tyson Fury versus Deontay Wilder.

I doubt that, reason being is boxing politics (very sad), Spence is calling Pacquiao even after accepting the Porter fight so for sure that will be their number one priority. Otherwise, it will be on the same stable of fighters or PBC.

We wanted to see a Crawford match, but since Bud is on the Arum's stable of fighters, I doubt that they can negotiate and see who is the best in 147 lbs division.

It would be a better career decision for Errol Spence, however. There will be more money and Pacman might be the easier fighter for him than Terrence Crawford which might also pay him less hehe.



Exactly, little risk big reward for Errol Spence if Pacquaio will be his next fight.

I like the fight with Porter though, we really see how Spence can adjust with anyone at this division. But if ever Pacquiao will be his opponent, I don't think that someone can really adjust to Pacquiao style. Only Floyd and Marquez (after fighting him many times) was the only boxer I saw truly adjustment and make Pacquiao pay for his aggressiveness.

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September 29, 2019, 11:24:44 AM
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I just watched the replay on Youtube and that knockdown well it's not really a knockdown it's more of an off-balance but Porter was hit by a shot when throwing a punch and that made the difference in the scorecard, there should be a rematch but Spence will be going against Pacquiao next year.

He was hit, got outbalanced and touched the floor by his gloves, and that was called a knock down.
I also review some highlights, and if you want to see the a knock down, you can view it in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOSbaEe1KU  Grin

No more excuses now, this was a close fight, the knock down was a big difference.
Lets put up the accurate time for that knockdown: https://youtu.be/yIOSbaEe1KU?t=28 Its clear that it wasnt a slip but  a pure knockdown where he able to get some left swing from spence and even porter wasnt able to be knocked down he would still lose up this fight in terms of pointing system. Knockdown doesnt really give out big difference yet it do only deducts 2 points on its current score but well its great factor yet each point does matter.
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September 29, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
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I just watched the replay on Youtube and that knockdown well it's not really a knockdown it's more of an off-balance but Porter was hit by a shot when throwing a punch and that made the difference in the scorecard, there should be a rematch but Spence will be going against Pacquiao next year.

That sounds great, if Spencer would fight against pacman and I love to watch him facing Manny's heavy punches. It was just my strong opinion for the current situation of Spencer, and nothing so serious about it. I was only stating and judging based on what capability did this guy in comparison to Pacquiao.
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September 29, 2019, 12:55:33 PM
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If it is not because of a knockdown on the 11th round, I think the match would have been a draw. Luckily Spence draw knockdown on Porter that changes the score of the match but I wonder why one of the judge favor Porter which makes it a split decision win for Spence.

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September 29, 2019, 01:26:23 PM
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If it is not because of a knockdown on the 11th round, I think the match would have been a draw. Luckily Spence draw knockdown on Porter that changes the score of the match but I wonder why one of the judge favor Porter which makes it a split decision win for Spence.

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.
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September 29, 2019, 02:38:16 PM
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With those odds I would bet on Shawn Porter. Maybe he looks weaker than his opponent right now, but, after all, he won 30 out of 33 fights, and 17 of them by KO. Also Porter is 8 cm shorter than Spence, which is frequently an advantage in boxing.

Overall I would agree with the comment I saw on a site where the odds where discussed:

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"I have Spence as a favorite but not -1000 favorite."

You can bet on porter to win by KO at 14.00 and porter by decision at 10, you will still get a better odds compared to 6.00 for porter to win the match.
I think as game is approaching, slowly the odds of Porter are decreasing, this means people are betting on him?

How about draw @25. does it stands a chance also?

It did stand a chance. Spence won on a split decision, so it was very close to draw.

But I must say that I was wrong betting on Shawn Porter. As it happens most of the time, most bettors appeared to be right about the outcome of the battle. I just thought the odds were wrong, Spence wasn't 5 times more likely to win. But he won and that's what counts.

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September 29, 2019, 02:40:39 PM
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But I must say that I was wrong betting on Shawn Porter. As it happens most of the time, most bettors appeared to be right about the outcome of the battle. I just thought the odds were wrong, Spence wasn't 5 times more likely to win. But he won and that's what counts.

You did exactly what you were supposed to do as a bettor, which is exploit the disparity between the bookmakers odds and the true odds of an outcome. You knew that Porter had more than a 20% chance of winning, and were prepared to get 5x your money for your risk. Keep doing this with future fights and you will eventually come out on top, it's just a matter of time.
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September 29, 2019, 03:13:32 PM
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Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

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September 29, 2019, 03:22:31 PM
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It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.

Strange that one judge give it to Porter. He was aggressive but missing a lot, at least that's the way I saw the fight, and it should be UD for Spence.

@NavI_027 - even in the early rounds he was too sloppy with his punches and Spence capitalising on it.

So let's see Spence vs Pacquaio for all the glory and see who is the best welterweight.
This next fight will be a deciding factor to glorifies who would be the best from the said division. Pacquiao enlighten the community that age is not an issue when you are determine to show your skills and capabilities. Spence after this win adds more confidence from his system of fighting, he able to win this fight with that undeniable knock down, a turning factors for grabbing the glory.
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September 29, 2019, 03:39:15 PM
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Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

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Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.
It doesn't even worth talking about it, the fight will never take place, Manny is above that, he can't spend his time and his health for every jackass, he would fight every week otherwise...

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September 29, 2019, 10:15:23 PM
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Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

Another question is - would Pacquiao's camp be willing to fight with Spence Jr, if in case he will go inside the ring one last time? What would be at stake on this fight? Is it important for him to fight with Spence? Another boxer trying to get a good paycheck by asking Pacquiao's fist.
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