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September 20, 2019, 08:43:43 AM
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investors might be with interest on offers as referring shifts on number with bonus to gains on extent as collecting with use of returns and collects of profit on decision as expending parts of sums with resource on possession.

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September 20, 2019, 09:11:44 AM
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as far as I know, a big bonus is one of the attractions for investors, I mean if the project offers a large bonus, many investors will certainly join in it. but the fact is not like that that a big bonus will only bring big losses. maybe at this time only IEO is listed on a large exchange, which gives a real bonus from every project listed there.
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September 20, 2019, 09:18:03 AM
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In disagree with you on that my friend, lots of bonuses where given for example for early birds
but the only reason why the price never reach a certain level or the coin disappear is because of the holders also
sometimes , they dont know how to hold coins they own, they tend to sell it immediately, because they
think only of profit , that they dont know that it will bring down a coin

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September 20, 2019, 09:24:36 AM
 #104

I feel sad when many bounty hunters promote fraudulent, bogus projects. Promoting blatantly, there is no evaluation of the project that makes investors confused and lose money on current IEO and ICO projects. Besides, the bounty hunters are very pitiful, when they work for a long time and receive nothing.

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September 20, 2019, 09:44:19 AM
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Of course, it's win-win for the project, on the one hand, it will sell their tokens, on the other, it will bring liquidity on the exchanges from their investors.

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September 20, 2019, 10:35:14 AM
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It is not fair to early investors, but that is all. IEOs/ICOs are doing much more shady things than you can imagine. Fake team members, fake followers, fake whitepaper, fake history and much more.
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September 20, 2019, 10:43:25 AM
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.


It is indeed funny mate, bonuses are meant to be reducing along the line while the last stage ends up zero. However, I see this as a desperate method that is, they want to make it appealing to investors so they can buy up which then exposes their weakness. I see such IEOs as this type a questionable one, good IEOs don't sound desperate like this, rather they sell off owing to either what they are offering or the exchange it is taking place on. Also, an IEO offering this type of bonus will only end up dumping more when investors starts selling.

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September 20, 2019, 10:44:13 AM
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It is not fair to early investors, but that is all. IEOs/ICOs are doing much more shady things than you can imagine. Fake team members, fake followers, fake whitepaper, fake history and much more.
It's your job to determine the authenticity of the documents they are presenting, with proper research, I think you'll be able to make the right judgement.
Good IEO are popular, so you'll not have hard time evaluating the project as we also have a lot of online reviews from reputable sites, but you don't only concentrate on one site as they could be bias, we cannot avoid that since we are all dealing with money here, people serve money and they can be dishonest.

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September 20, 2019, 11:29:22 AM
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It also depends on a number of exchanges to implement IEO. For large exchanges like Binance, Huobi, Okex, ... there will certainly be no discount because those are potential projects, we can only buy in private pools at a higher price.
For projects with big discounts, be careful when buying it because when discounted too much, that's certainly not a good token.

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September 20, 2019, 01:31:18 PM
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Any last minute discount is a scam it only shows their failure to raise money during their IEO. I saw a project who raised a little about $200 on exchange during their IEO. Because the public don't get to know all this, it's really bad to fall for any sort of discount from any IEO.
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September 20, 2019, 02:55:35 PM
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.



You can say whatever you want to say about bonuses and don't get me wrong I am not in support of the abuse of bonuses but the main goal of these developers doing ICO/IEO is to raise money and they w ill do whatever they can do in their capacity to achieve, and the most common thing is to offer bonuses to attract investors, even if the price start dumping immediately after IEO

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September 20, 2019, 03:17:04 PM
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It also depends on a number of exchanges to implement IEO. For large exchanges like Binance, Huobi, Okex, ... there will certainly be no discount because those are potential projects, we can only buy in private pools at a higher price.
For projects with big discounts, be careful when buying it because when discounted too much, that's certainly not a good token.
Agree. The projects that offer last-minute discounts are lousy projects with no participants. I would never be interested and involved in those projects

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September 20, 2019, 03:24:13 PM
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Bonuses are created to gather more investment.
As we are on the situation of this community and the place of the market prices.
More bonuses are created just to get more people to buy on their sales. this is normal.

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September 20, 2019, 03:27:53 PM
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Well its part of their strategy to gain more investors coz 25% bonus is still a good deal. Its normal that they creat this bonuses to raise more funds that can be use for theproject development and it's still up to the investors if they will bite the deal.
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September 20, 2019, 03:30:59 PM
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Bonuses are use not to deceive people but to ain more people on a project to invest.
YES, we have seen so many offers and yet some project failed.
WHY? we need to defeat the scared from scam project we need to be legit and many project team want to be successful, they offer huge discount just to get it so what is bad about that?
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September 20, 2019, 10:33:34 PM
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Well its part of their strategy to gain more investors coz 25% bonus is still a good deal. Its normal that they creat this bonuses to raise more funds that can be use for theproject development and it's still up to the investors if they will bite the deal.
Getting the bonus is an advantage for the investors because the trend now is the coin will drop its value when its traded in exchange, so even if it will drop, they won't loss a lot compared to investors who were not able to get a bonus.

This bonus offers are usually given to early investors, usually it's not fixed, there's a certain period for a certain bonus type is offered.
Lastly, if this is to deceive bounty hunters, big projects which are successful now, giving bonuses in ICO are also deceiving projects?

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September 20, 2019, 10:39:14 PM
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Back then it was about marketing now it's deceit!!
It's even worse when they offer high bonus percentages on whatever you invest in the project which is shameful....with all these deceitful strategies  it's now my first sign of which project to avoid when am picking out the good projects. You can't just give out free money like that, what happened to scarcity??? These guys give crypto a bad name if you ask me Sad
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September 20, 2019, 10:40:11 PM
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Well its part of their strategy to gain more investors coz 25% bonus is still a good deal. Its normal that they creat this bonuses to raise more funds that can be use for theproject development and it's still up to the investors if they will bite the deal.
Getting the bonus is an advantage for the investors because the trend now is the coin will drop its value when its traded in exchange, so even if it will drop, they won't loss a lot compared to investors who were not able to get a bonus.

This bonus offers are usually given to early investors, usually it's not fixed, there's a certain period for a certain bonus type is offered.
Lastly, if this is to deceive bounty hunters, big projects which are successful now, giving bonuses in ICO are also deceiving projects?
Well this bonus will be more likely adds to the dumping of cryptos. If without bonus the coin is already dumped below initial price then if the coin have a bonus as huge as 25% it will be dumped even further so there's actually no point of giving away bonus other than making their coin less valuable.

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September 20, 2019, 10:44:10 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2019, 02:57:07 AM by PuertoLibre
 #120

Bonuses are use not to deceive people but to ain more people on a project to invest.
YES, we have seen so many offers and yet some project failed.
WHY? we need to defeat the scared from scam project we need to be legit and many project team want to be successful, they offer huge discount just to get it so what is bad about that?
What if these bonus received wallets transfer the additional amount to the listed exchange and the buy-side of the order book gonna be cleared after huge dump of the price? The pre-sale stage bonuses are not going to be used for HODL in my opinion, these bonus tokens have a special target which is not usually used for brick walls in the pump after the pump. Scam projects can look like the same of the legit project but there are a lot of deal-breaking issues that deceive both bounty hunters and the loyal investors in the project. If the team can't apply the solution in the bad times, holding the tokens of the project will not worth the lost hope which is unrecoverable.
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