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September 11, 2019, 08:36:15 PM
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I will be brief as possible. I came into the last year and I rose to the rank of full member I contributed my own quota here and done my best.
I would like to know the reason for my ban
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September 11, 2019, 09:08:36 PM
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Haven't gone through your posts (and I'm far too lazy to do so), but the only real reason anyone ever gets a permaban on this forum is because of copy/pasting.  The only other reason is disruptive spamming, but it has to be fairly egregious for you to get a ban from that--so my guess is that you plagiarized someone else's work somewhere, and I'm also willing to bet that one of the fine forum detectives will stop by to show you exactly what you did.

Did you post someone else's words without giving them credit for it?

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September 11, 2019, 09:13:53 PM
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Sorry about the ban... Take your time and try looking through your post history especially posts that you made when you were still A newbie or Jr Member. It may help you understand and get what post got you banned
Maybe you posted content at some point and didn't include the source link.

The most straight forward reason for permaban is Plagiarism

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September 11, 2019, 09:14:29 PM
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Did you post someone else's words without giving them credit for it?
I was well aware of plagiarism and made sure ideas come down in my own words, I am guessing there is a mistake somewhere
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September 11, 2019, 09:15:22 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2019, 12:34:43 PM by suchmoon
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I was well aware of plagiarism and made sure ideas come down in my own words, I am guessing there is a mistake somewhere

What does your red ban message say? Is it a permanent ban or a temporary one?
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September 11, 2019, 09:24:09 PM
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What does your red ban message say? Is it a permanent bad or a temporary one?
The ban says it's a permanent one
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September 11, 2019, 09:42:47 PM
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The ban says it's a permanent one

Then it's likely plagiarism or ban evasion... did you have any other accounts?
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I think there is only one reason, plagiarism. Spam does not result in immediate permanent ban, instead user will get temporary ban first. Ban evasion, if I have not missed some ban appeal, Sharon121212 did not evade ban appeals.
I think Sharon should check very early posts when he was still newbie/ Jr. Member to find probably plagiarised posts.
I guess your plagiarised posts likely come from ones in Politics & society board. If it is, I feel deeply regret for Sharon, because he likely knew rules very well, in November of 2018.
You can just to a needful plagiarism test run on your account in question.

The forum has been very accurate in terms of ban and it's rear before come here as you just did and get justify.

I don't know how to check for plagiarism but am sure your evidence is on the way.

Just stay tuned

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September 12, 2019, 03:01:33 AM
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This is just a guess, but I'm going to go with Ban Evasion. Iirc you hit the ground running when you joined the forum, some even accused you of being an Alt of a better known member at the time. You are very active so are clearly aware of plagiarism and it's punishment, and with the launch of the Bot you likely scrubbed your post history if it contained plagiarism.
What has changed though is that accounts are monitored for suspicious activity to some extent I've been expecting more Ban evaders to be caught since then; maybe it's starting to take place.

While I love your first post and wish more newbies could say this
"First thing I did was use the search the forum rules I wouldn't want to fall on the wrong side of it
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 it's quite plain and straight forward and would give my all to stick to it. And also the post from Lauda was loud enough https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0"

It lends further to the likelihood of Ban Evasion. Either way you seem to have done well for yourself, all you can do is to plead your case and follow the appeal process.


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September 12, 2019, 05:14:44 AM
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"First thing I did was use the search the forum rules I wouldn't want to fall on the wrong side of it
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 it's quite plain and straight forward and would give my all to stick to it. And also the post from Lauda was loud enough https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0"

It lends further to the likelihood of Ban Evasion. Either way you seem to have done well for yourself, all you can do is to plead your case and follow the appeal process.
I really just read through before my first post and it happens that post from Lauda was made on beginners and help board. I really am pleading my case here.
I have been very active
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Ban evasion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2476325 Sharon121212

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If kingpin4321 was banned after it was hacked does that still make sharon a ban evader? (if it was infact hacked)

Why don't you tell us all about your kingpin account sharon? Any others?

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If kingpin4321 was banned after it was hacked does that still make sharon a ban evader? (if it was infact hacked)

Why don't you tell us all about your kingpin account sharon? Any others?

Who said it was hacked? Indeed, both accounts had their emails changed arround the same time late last year, but other than that, I found no other significant change that would indicate a potential hack. If anything, that + the fact that both posts were made after the email changes, proves that both accounts are controlled by the same person.


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September 12, 2019, 02:38:45 PM
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Who said it was hacked?

There are trust ratings to that effect dated about a month ago pointing to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173531
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Who said it was hacked?

There are trust ratings to that effect dated about a month ago pointing to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173531

Thanks, it's a bit curious..the password for kingping was changed on August 7th at 11:48 PM and, coincidentally, the post was made by Sharon on the same day, but before the password change, at 10:58 AM. There were email changes but not relevant to the discussion as they were made in late 2018... Since kingpin's post containing that address was made in January, and Sharon posted it on the same day as kingpin's potential hack date, to me it seems that at that point, the same person was still controlling the accounts. The phishing attempts were made after that so if there was a hack, it had nothing to do with the reason that got the Sharon account banned.







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There are trust ratings to that effect dated about a month ago pointing to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173531
But Sharon never said that it is her account nor it was hacked or @kingpin4321 made a ban appeal.  Huh


And if you examine the way the two accounts in question have similarities on the way they post (provided below) indicates a possibility onto it. Though other posts are not that similar or maybe not to find that they are linked to each other.

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Honestly speaking we don't need all that alot has already been said on the topic some of which the moderators has rightfully pinned.
  Here is a good one I saw today.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4517393.0

But never feel that anyone owes you merit. Once you have read most article about the merit system, ranking system and how to earn it then that is that absorb it in your mind let it be inside of you. You don't necessarily have to post on daily basis about it. We are already aware and surrounded by post and thread about it.

 We all are different individuals and have different reasons for being on this forum but what ever our aim is here let works towards it and keeping the standard conditions of the forum at heart. We all came to meet it so it's unfair if we contribute to bastardizing it.

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And if you examine the way the two accounts in question have similarities on the way they post (provided below) indicates a possibility onto it. Though other posts are not that similar or maybe not to find that they are linked to each other.

Those are not the only similarities, the accounts are clearly connected. The question was if Sharon's ban was influenced by kingpin's potential hack or not.

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Thanks, it's a bit curious..the password for kingping was changed on August 7th at 11:48 PM and, coincidentally, the post was made by Sharon on the same day, but before the password change, at 10:58 AM. There were email changes but not relevant to the discussion as they were made in late 2018... Since kingpin's post containing that address was made in January, and Sharon posted it on the same day as kingpin's potential hack date, to me it seems that at that point, the same person was still controlling the accounts. The phishing attempts were made after that so if there was a hack, it had nothing to do with the reason that got the Sharon account banned.

If kingpin4321 was hacked on August 7 then Sharon is not responsible for the phishing attempts and the subsequent ban since the account was not in her control. Her posting on the same day doesn't seem relevant. Unless you have something else, like both accounts using the same IP on that day or later.

I mean it still sounds fishy (pun intended) that she didn't complain about the hack and kingpin4321's ban but technically she didn't evade a ban.

See the bill gator case for a precedent.
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If kingpin4321 was hacked on August 7 then Sharon is not responsible for the phishing attempts and the subsequent ban since the account was not in her control. Her posting on the same day doesn't seem relevant. Unless you have something else, like both accounts using the same IP on that day or later.

I mean it still sounds fishy (pun intended) that she didn't complain about the hack and kingpin4321's ban but technically she didn't evade a ban.
See the bill gator case for a precedent.

I didn't say Sharon was the one responsible for the phishing attempts but it's easy to get confused, I also had a hard time until I figured the timeline Smiley I would say that the fact that kingpin posted in January the same address that Sharon posted on the day kingpin was supposedly hacked, but before the actual password change (besides anything else I might have on top but will not go on about as they also read these boards Wink) is very relevant as that is what actually connected the accounts in the first place.



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Kingpin is my alt
Got hacked but didn't appeal for ban because I wanted to concentrate on just one account and build up my reputation. I let the account go because I needed no distractions
I really did not want any drama on the kingpin issue and since they banned it I guess it was a fair deal so as to keep the hacker out.
I am appealing on behalf of Sharon and plead my case to the forum and the moderators in general
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Kingpin is my alt
Got hacked but didn't appeal for ban because I wanted to concentrate on just one account and build up my reputation. I let the account go because I needed no distractions
I really did not want any drama on the kingpin issue and since they banned it I guess it was a fair deal so as to keep the hacker out.

I can confirm that your Kingpin account was hacked,
as I reported it for hackers attempt to hack me also.
You can read more in this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173531

That does not change the fact that you used same BTC address for bounty

Quote from: Xal0lex
Ban evasion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2476325 Sharon121212

Proof:

Btctalk name: sharon121212
Btctalk URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2476325
Rank: full member
Current number of post: 426
BTC address: 3Lcdp5U5Krf5zqo7g7kF2QsU4oidQ1ea8e

User: kingpin4321
Position to apply: member
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kingpin4321 banned.


And you (kingpin) where ACTIVE during the month of July and even applied for bounty there.
How can that be...'concentrating on one account, and no distraction' ?

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September 12, 2019, 06:44:24 PM
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This is an interesting case.
Was the Kingpin account banned because of the hacker's phishing attempt?
If it wasn't Sharon's fault that her first account got banned, I guess the sharon1212 deserves to be unbanned.
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September 12, 2019, 07:47:33 PM
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Kingpin is my alt
Got hacked but didn't appeal for ban because I wanted to concentrate on just one account and build up my reputation. I let the account go because I needed no distractions
I really did not want any drama on the kingpin issue and since they banned it I guess it was a fair deal so as to keep the hacker out.
I am appealing on behalf of Sharon and plead my case to the forum and the moderators in general

You should have received an email notification regarding the password change where you would also have the possibility of locking the account. Why did you not do that and waited for the account to be banned by the mods? There's no drama in trying to recover an account, not anymore at least, there's a new procedure in place and some would say it's quite straightforward so I don't really buy the "I wanted to let it go" part..

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September 14, 2019, 03:10:13 AM
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Kingpin is my alt
Got hacked but didn't appeal for ban because I wanted to concentrate on just one account and build up my reputation. I let the account go because I needed no distractions
I really did not want any drama on the kingpin issue and since they banned it I guess it was a fair deal so as to keep the hacker out.

I can confirm that your Kingpin account was hacked,
as I reported it for hackers attempt to hack me also.
You can read more in this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173531

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I always considered Sharon121212 to be an interesting, and helpful forum member. This does not excuse phishing if sharon121212 is guilty of this, but it should be a reason to put effort into looking into a possible hack.   

It is possible sharon121212, or more specifically kingpin4321 was the victim of phishing, and this was why he changed his password on August 7 2019. I am not sure if at the time, changing your password would invalidate any active session cookies on other devices (automatically log you out of all devices), but if not, kingpin changing his password would not stop any hacker from continuing to use his account if the hacker already logged in.

Due to possible differences in time zone displays between dkbit98, and alanst, I am not sure if the password was changed before or after the phishing attempt made by kingpin. A change in IP addresses does not guarantee an account is actually hacked because someone up to mischief could decide to temporarily change the IP address they access the forum from to try to get away with mischief.

If kingpin4321 was in fact hacked, it would probably be because he entered his login information into the same phishing site, probably the same one his account sent alanst. The existence of a PM in kingpin's inbox containing a phishing link would be pretty strong evidence that his account was in fact hacked. The absence of a phishing link in kingpin's (or anyone else associated with him) inbox would be pretty strong evidence his account was not hacked, or that the hacker deleted the PM once he gained access to the account, but I don't think the later would be expected behavior. Other possible evidence that kingpin was hacked would include kingping visiting a thread that contained a phishing link at the time he visited the thread page.

sharon121212 could also produce evidence that he received a phishing message on a third party platform such as telegram, email, watsapp, but while I would not outright ignore this evidence, I would give it less weight. 
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September 14, 2019, 05:07:17 AM
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And you (kingpin) where ACTIVE during the month of July and even applied for bounty there.
How can that be...'concentrating on one account, and no distraction' ?

That's a good point.  Both accounts applied for the Windice signature campaign, and in weeks 16 and 17 both sharon121212 and kingpin4321 were enrolled and show up on the spreadsheet.  So, before the potential hack the user was cheating the WinDice signature campaign with at least two alts.

Spreadsheet for the windice signature campaign:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRabJN4r_qbpitYLsxLfDQ7H4eZw6DfIqErx2BI9A7c/edit#gid=85127512

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I also find it strange that Sharon won't answer Suchmoon's very straight forward question:

did you have any other accounts?


This is starting to look like a scammer in our midst, and perhaps there was no hack after all.  I was afraid this might happen after the kenzawak debacle; that some shitbird would start phishing for a scam, then cry "my account was hacked" when the scam was exposed.  

Kingpin is my alt
Got hacked but didn't appeal for ban because I wanted to concentrate on just one account and build up my reputation. I let the account go because I needed no distractions
I really did not want any drama on the kingpin issue and since they banned it I guess it was a fair deal so as to keep the hacker out.
I am appealing on behalf of Sharon and plead my case to the forum and the moderators in general

You should have received an email notification regarding the password change where you would also have the possibility of locking the account. Why did you not do that and waited for the account to be banned by the mods? There's no drama in trying to recover an account, not anymore at least, there's a new procedure in place and some would say it's quite straightforward so I don't really buy the "I wanted to let it go" part..

That sounds like a pile of steaming donkey dung to me too.  

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September 14, 2019, 05:45:36 AM
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I am wondering why OP has not been tried to recover your old account. How we believe that your previous account has been hacked. However, admin might take a look if account has been hacked really.

But main question is why your account was banned. If you wondering that you old account banned after hacked andand it will not effect on your current account then it will be wrong. Who know perhaps you did mistake at the beginning, who know that you didn't plagiarized? If you plagiarized before hacked account and if that's the reason for ban then most likely your current account will not unban if admin don't like to give you second chance.

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September 14, 2019, 06:31:38 AM
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Since no one wants to believe my appeal, I had tried to contact the mods but to no avail. It's been a good ride here but It had to come to an end, am done
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