Bumping - Rules, FAQs

[tranthidung]

Reading rules to understand, and obey rules will help to reduce probability of posts deleted, temporary ban, or more seriously permanent ban.

Rules:
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
Bumping changes on some boards


FAQs
Updates through posts considered as bump. Updating posts are likely deleted or merged by moderators. So, please be careful with your updating posts.

Q: Where the idea of bump button come from?
A: It came from community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them). It takes theymos' attention, and after around one year, he brings it to life.

An example: a bump button sounds good as a fix for certain very visible problems, but it also codifies a broken system. People would use bots to bump all of their threads constantly, giving "industrial" posters a huge advantage over casual posters. A captcha could maybe help a little, but there are services where you can pay a tiny fee to have captchas solved for you. (Which opens another question: maybe a comparatively tiny fee should be allowed as an alternative to having you solve a captcha.) A better solution would be to replace the concept of traditional bumping with something quite different, with different bumping models for different types of sections. But that requires further thought. If implementing a bump button was free, perhaps it'd be worthwhile to at least do it for now and fix a few minor problems with bumping today. But since it's a clearly-imperfect solution, this isn't even on my miles-long to-do list.

Q: Why my posts deleted?
A: There are many reasons, in the topic, I only mentioned about reasons relate to bumping.

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]
21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]
22. Advertising (this includes mining pools, gambling services, exchanges, shops, etc.) in others threads' is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, in altcoin announcement threads. [8]

Besides those reasons, there is another common reason, that is "Updates" posts. Updates considered as bumping posts, and OPs should use edit button rather than Post button to do updates for threads.

4. Bumps are limited to once per day (24 hours), yes this includes "updates", that's what the edit button is for. Old bumps should be deleted as they serve no purpose, and only clutter up topics and make it more annoying to read.

There are so many threads that asked for reasons of posts deleted. If you search, you will see them, with bumping is one of most common reasons, besides off-topic, non-sense, pointless posts.

Q: I don't think my posts should be considered as bumping ones?
A: Forum staffs have their rights to do their own rule interpretation for each case and context. If they consider your posts are bumping ones, they are mostly right.

23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.[e]

Q: Please help, forum staffs merged my original posts into one, without details on timepoints, contexts when and where I made orignal posts, that makes merged posts look like trash.
A: Don't put your posts under risks of mandatory merging by moderators. They don't have time to edit your merged posts, so please don't complain and do your responsibility better when you make posts or updates.


Since 11th September 2019, there are changes on Bumping, that currently applied for three boards with Bump button (in Red color) at the top right corner of each thread.

- Service Announcements
 - Announcements (Altcoins)
 - Tokens (Altcoins)
- Bounties (Altcoins)
- More boards might be added later, includes Digital goods, and local boards if moderators send request to theymos.

Bumping changes on some boards or (just for now) you can visit the topic of admin by given link in news area (after logging in), but I am not sure how long it will be displayed in news area

News: If you like a topic and you see an orange "bump" link, click it. More info.

It is a bit complicated, but if you are not bumper, you are fine with those changes.

I made a graph to fully understand what this means. With 1 Super bump per day, it takes a couple of months to stabilize to a certain Super bump power.

Just a thought: New topics still show up on top, so I can imagine someone creating the same topic every day, while archiving the last one.

[Bill Gates]

How so I know the Bumping Power of an user?

[TryNinja]

How so I know the Bumping Power of an user?

I don't think you can.

See:

Can you at least make their own bump power visible to each user? Might help with debugging.

Maybe later. If it's shown somewhere, I'm not sure where to put it.

Also, I don't think you should be able to see this. Or poeple may try to sell their "bumping power", which they probably will.

[DdmrDdmr]

How so I know the Bumping Power of an user?

You can try to infer the maximum Bumping Power Base of a given person, but not the currently remaining amount, since there is no trace (other than for forum internals) on who bumped what and when.

The maximum Bumping Power Base, is the minimum of: min(activity in a year, earned merits in a year). So for a person who is pretty active and merited, his Bumping Power Base will be somewhere in the 364 or 365 range. 

Profiles with 0 earned merits will have 0 Bumping Power Base, regardless of their Activity (no earned merits, no bumps).

For the most, the Bumping Power Base will be determined by the number of earned Merits in a year, and not the Activity, since the former is more difficult to obtain.

To get a rough idea on a grand scale of potential Bumping Powr Base:

<…> There are, as of last Friday, around (I have not/cannot cross that with activity in that period of time, nor crossed against banned profiles):
109 profiles that have earned >=  364 merits in the last year.
122 profiles that have earned  between 180 and 363 merits.
184 profiles that have earned  between 90 and 179 merits.
308 profiles that have earned  between 45 and 89 merits.
454 profiles that have earned  between 22 and 44 merits.
1142 profiles that have earned  between 10 and 21 merits.
7913 profiles that have earned  between 1 and 9 merits.

In my case for example, my Bumping Power Base should be around 365 (I have that much activity, and over that number of earned merits in a year – the minimum of the two applies).

-   Each Mini bump that I do by posting on an implied thread, will give the thread 3,65 bump points (incrementing the threads internal bump score by that amount).

-   My first Super bump will transfer 365 bump points to the thread, my complete Bumping Power Base (in my case, equivalent to 85 Mini bumps of mine).

-   Mi second Super bump will transfer 365*0,85 = 310,25 bump points to the/a thread

-   Mi third Super bump will transfer 365*(0,85)^2 = 263,71 bump points to the thread

-   And so on.

Another profile with, let’s say, 365 days of Activity, but only 10 earned Merits, will have a Bumping Base Power of 10 (the minimum of those two numbers) and:
-   Each Mini bump will transfer to the thread 0,1 bump points.

-   His first Super bump will transfer 10 bump points; the total of his Bumping Base Power.

-   His second Super bump will transfer 10*0,85 = 8,5 bump points

-   His third Super bump will transfer 10*(0,85)^2 = 7,22 bump points

-   And so on.

This is all dynamic really though: Bumping base is recalculated often, and the effective bumping power of Super Bumps recovers I believe 30 days after each individual spend made. In addition, the bump score transferred to a thread lasts for 36 hours, decaying linearly over that period of time to the margin of bump score contribution (i.e. If I transfer 365 bump points now to a thread by means of a Super bump, the effective amount will be 182,5 after 18 hours, and 0 after 36 hours).

[LiveEdutvICO]

How serious does Bitcointalk Admin team take these Bumping rules?
If they are serious then you need to ban all the accounts Murat uses for weekly Bumping on Bitcointalk to promote his posts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308823.new#new