[ROASTING]This forum has big problem with high rank spineless human beings [END]

[suchmoon]

Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.

LOL, ok, that makes sense given everything we know so far about his intellectual prowess.

Speaking of negative trust, the one that he posted for you seems to admit that he's running a bulletproof scam business:

ignorant troll, can't understand a scam bulletproof business model and leaves negative feedback as payback after getting roasted. SPINELESS but will get you a small loan

[CryptoSparks]

Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.

LOL, ok, that makes sense given everything we know so far about his intellectual prowess.

Speaking of negative trust, the one that he posted for you seems to admit that he's running a bulletproof scam business:

ignorant troll, can't understand a scam bulletproof business model and leaves negative feedback as payback after getting roasted. SPINELESS but will get you a small loan

Well that's pretty stupid, and if that's the case now i understand why Vod commented on my threads saying to explicitly check my trust.  

I mean, imagine ebay or amazon with a similar feedback system. hilarious

Also means that your pathetic attempts to ruin my reputation with false red trust is even weaker than what i thought.

Thanks, never stop learning!  


Also don't be silly, you know what i meant with that feedback

Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.

Wait what? What's the point in a feedback tool if only the parties see it?  

You sure you haven't bought your account?

Because that's how you sound like right now.

Mate i'm sorry if i don't know how every function of this huge forum ecosystem works. I never needed to know how the feedback tool actually works because i never had any kind of problem. Honest people tend to be a bit naive, but is ok, none is perfect...

[DireWolfM14]

@CryptoSparks

If this service that you’re offering is truly legitimate, it’s only suffering as a result of your attitude.  If you had approached the forum community with humility instead of hubris, honesty instead of deceit, generosity instead of greed you may have actually made something of this service you’re offering.

If I was to offer a service such as this I would have proposed the following:
1)   Don’t send me any money.
2)   Send the funds to your own bitmex (or whatever exchange) account,
3)   Create a trading API for your account
4)   Provide me with the API which will be plugged into my quant bot
5)   If you works for you, send me a tip

With a proposal like that, no one would have suspected you of attempting to run off with their funds, no one would have called you a liar, no one would have anything with which to tarnish your reputation.

If you actually had a quantbot that works (still a big if, because I think you’re a liar) you would have had people tripping over each other lining up for your service.  Once you’ve gotten it established that’s when you can change the structure and start charging for your service.  A subscription or some sort of arrangement that leaves the user in control of their own funds.  Honesty, openness, transparency is essential when starting a new service in the crypto sphere.  Anyone who’s been around crypto for just a few months should understand that.

[AdolfinWolf]

I meant the actual API key of the account you let ran for 20 MONTHS+.

The API in your OP only lists a couple of garbage trades.

It doesn't list any of the trades you posted in your JSON file for everyone to download.

...

Code:

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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    currency: 'XBt',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T17:00:01.063Z',
    currentQty: 0,
    markPrice: null,
    liquidationPrice: null,
    avgEntryPrice: null } ]
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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T16:12:28.151Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10666 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T16:12:38.850Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T20:37:32.192Z',
    clOrdID: '',
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    price: 10700 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T20:55:07.727Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 14,
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:06:34.734Z',
    clOrdID: '',
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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    account: 1232047,
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-12T19:48:52.078Z',
    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
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    clOrdID: '',
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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T13:29:10.064Z',
    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:02:49.812Z',
    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:15:36.991Z',
    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T10:48:40.525Z',
    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T10:48:50.894Z',
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Shit. You made a 698$ trade, with 3$ profit! Better watch out!

[CryptoSparks]

@CryptoSparks

If this service that you’re offering is truly legitimate, it’s only suffering as a result of your attitude.  If you had approached the forum community with humility instead of hubris, honesty instead of deceit, generosity instead of greed you may have actually made something of this service you’re offering.

If I was to offer a service such as this I would have proposed the following:
1)   Don’t send me any money.
2)   Send the funds to your own bitmex (or whatever exchange) account,
3)   Create a trading API for your account
4)   Provide me with the API which will be plugged into my quant bot
5)   If you works for you, send me a tip

With a proposal like that, no one would have suspected you of attempting to run off with their funds, no one would have called you a liar, no one would have anything with which to tarnish your reputation.

If you actually had a quantbot that works (still a big if, because I think you’re a liar) you would have had people tripping over each other lining up for your service.  Once you’ve gotten it established that’s when you can change the structure and start charging for your service.  A subscription or some sort of arrangement that leaves the user in control of their own funds.  Honesty, openness, transparency is essential when starting a new service in the crypto sphere.  Anyone who’s been around crypto for just a few months should understand that.

Does this sound familiar to you? ( Right on my thread)

I meant the actual API key of the account you let ran for 20 MONTHS+.

The API in your OP only lists a couple of garbage trades.

It doesn't list any of the trades you posted in your JSON file for everyone to download.

...

Code:

[ { account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    currency: 'XBt',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T17:00:01.063Z',
    currentQty: 0,
    markPrice: null,
    liquidationPrice: null,
    avgEntryPrice: null } ]
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T16:12:28.151Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10666 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T20:37:32.192Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 14,
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
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    clOrdID: '',
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    account: 1232047,
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Shit. You made a 698$ trade! Better watch out!

Better attack, finally you digged into some data before posting! That's how i like you!  

I think is pretty obvious though that if we officially launched the bot this month, you can't expect api access to data prior the launch! The stats and trade history data saved in json are result of the backtest engine which has 1m candle sensibility.  You may say that bugs in the backtest engine can false the result, but each backest is divided in checkpoints were the accuracy of the backtest is easily verifiable.

I don't know why you are joking about the 700$ trades honestly... try doing it winning 580 times out of 600 without you doing anything and without stress. Utopia for you guys, but for me and my members is not.

Furthermore you are missing the key, which is ROI %. Ofcourse if the demo account has low balance the actual usd per trade earned is not much.
Data speak laud.

WINS: 24      LOSSES: 0    ROI: +9.7%

Since 3rd september 2019.

If that's 10$ or 10000$ depends on client's bankroll

Funny how yesterday 500% roi was unthinkable but today is low. Make peace with your brain

[AdolfinWolf]

I think is pretty obvious though that if we officially launched the bot this month, you can't expect api access to data prior the launch! The stats and trade history data saved in json are result of the backtest engine which has 1m candle sensibility.  You may say that bugs in the backtest engine can false the result, but each backest is divided in checpoints were the accuracy of the backtest is easily verifiable.

Okay; Translation: "I don't have verifiable API data for the .JSON files i put out".
(Which is total bullshit obviously, you could’ve simply recreated another read api for your “other” (nonexistent ) bitmex account.)
That is if you actually made the trades ofcourse, which you now claim you didnt?

You may say that bugs in the backtest engine can false the result, but each backest is divided in checpoints were the accuracy of the backtest is easily verifiable.

You know what.

You're right. I'll admit: I'm too dumb for this. You win with all your sophisticated backengines, apis, backtest back back back, checkpoints, chekc check dividinedne.

Obviously there would be no third party api read access to all those things.. Waaaay too sophisticated  . I totally get it.

I don't know why you are joking about the 700$ trades honestly... try doing it winning 580 times out of 600 without you doing anything and without stress. Utopia for you guys, but for me and my members is not.

Furthermore you are missing the key, which is ROI %. Ofcourse if the demo account has low balance the actual usd per trade earned is not much.

the demo account api has an N=55,, it is not proof of anything, let alone of a stable ROI, or, any ROI at all that isn't based on 100% luck. (the actually n={x} is more like 8 if we only count 100$+ trades)

So, that's all that's verifiable.. or, rather, what you "want" to "verify". Keep referring to your imaginary track record.

I'm done here. There's nothing left to discuss.

Data speak laud.

you mean the 50 verifiable trades you showed us?

[CryptoSparks]

Obviously there would be no third party api read access to all those things.. Waaaay to sophisticated  .

Oh so somohow you want api access to my computer and development software? ahahah why don't you count to 10 before writing something!

the demo account api has an N=55,, it is not proof of anything, let alone of a stable ROI, or, any ROI at all that isn't based on 100% luck. (the actually n={x} is more like 8 if we only count 100$+ trades)

So, that's all that's verifiable.. or, rather, what you "want" to "verify".

I'm done here. This said it all.

Yup you right, 24 wins in a row that perfectly match the stats of over 500 trades in backtest of 0.5% avg win as coincidence can't be anything else than luck.
Also is still clear you don't know how a market maker makes money!  

(Which is total bullshit obviously, you could’ve simply recreated another read api for your “other” (nonexistent ) bitmex account.

You are the only one that never understand even a tiny bit.  Let me try again:
You can't access the backtest trades via API because, guess what, they are BACKTESTS. It mean the bot didn't existed during that period of time.
This proves you don't even understand what a backtest engine is. Please leave and take your ignorance out of this thread once for all


Can anybody else that is reading this say what they think? This thread has 600 views and is just me roasting the same 4 users over and over again

[iamsheikhadil]

Well, I would say that if someone accused you of being a scammer or spammer (no matter if they are newbie or legendary), you can always appeal for it and present your evidences. Calling high rank members as spineless is a little bit insult. I hope if you are honest about your services and can prove it, the high rank members themselves will help you out good luck!

[The-One-Above-All]

Obviously there would be no third party api read access to all those things.. Waaaay to sophisticated  .

Oh so somohow you want api access to my computer and development software? ahahah why don't you count to 10 before writing something!

the demo account api has an N=55,, it is not proof of anything, let alone of a stable ROI, or, any ROI at all that isn't based on 100% luck. (the actually n={x} is more like 8 if we only count 100$+ trades)

So, that's all that's verifiable.. or, rather, what you "want" to "verify".

I'm done here. This said it all.

Yup you right, 24 wins in a row that perfectly match the stats of over 500 trades in backtest of 0.5% avg win as coincidence can't be anything else than luck.
Also is still clear you don't know how a market maker makes money!  

(Which is total bullshit obviously, you could’ve simply recreated another read api for your “other” (nonexistent ) bitmex account.

You are the only one that never understand even a tiny bit.  Let me try again:
You can't access the backtest trades via API because, guess what, they are BACKTESTS. It mean the bot didn't existed during that period of time.
This proves you don't even understand what a backtest engine is. Please leave and take your ignorance out of this thread once for all


Can anybody else that is reading this say what they think? This thread has 600 views and is just me roasting the same 4 users over and over again

As you have witnessed, there is not the opportunity to present on topic and relevant replies. The mods will simply delete them. Welcome to meta board aka the twilight zone.
Stick around it can be fun.

[CryptoSparks]

Well, I would say that if someone accused you of being a scammer or spammer (no matter if they are newbie or legendary), you can always appeal for it and present your evidences. Calling high rank members as spineless is a little bit insult. I hope if you are honest about your services and can prove it, the high rank members themselves will help you out good luck!

You are right. The problem is not the Rank, is the power of superficiality that some users obtain with high ranks, thinking to know everything about anything.

Out of the 5 roasted legendaries in this thread, only suchmoon admitted her superficially, and as soon i refused the remove her feedback she started attacking again. 

My replies are aggressive because i have to debunk the same accusation over and over again, but that doesn't seem to work since i keep receiving feedbacks like
"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.

[suchmoon]

"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.

You're receiving the API key, which according to you can "act as a private key". Make up your mind.

[DireWolfM14]

My replies are aggressive because i have to debunk the same accusation over and over again, but that doesn't seem to work since i keep receiving feedbacks like
"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.

1. Lender as service provider:
Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.

Contradict yourself much?  Maybe I should ask if there was ever a time when you didn't contradict yourself...  You continue to lie, and the evidence is plastered across the forum.

And we all know why your replies are aggressive; it's because you have no intellect with which to argue rationally.  You claim to be this trading and programming guru, yet have demonstrated that you don't know shit about trading or programming.   You claim your auto-trading bot that you probably hijacked off of github is a quant, but that's just some buzz word you learned.  You wouldn't know a quant if it bit you in the ass.  And somehow you've convinced yourself in your pathetic fantasy world that you're roasting us, right?  

Well I've got news for you buddy, you're a cunt, not a quant, and you've been exposed.

[CryptoSparks]

"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.

You're receiving the API key, which according to you can "act as a private key". Make up your mind.

Since i spent a lot of time on this API key war with you, i thought to create an exhaustive guide that hopefully will, once and for all, make you understand and will also add value to the forum.


1. WHAT is an API KEY
2. HOW can be used in trading
3. WHY everyone, regardless of the trading strategies, should always have one enabled
4. Step by Step guide on how to create one for Bitmex as example

[FULL GUIDE] API KEY - WHAT is it , WHY you need it and HOW to create one

I'm giving you and you only one last chance to admit that i was right, and that there are no ways we can steal the client's funds.
If you do it here and change my feedback to positive o neutral  i will do the exact same thing

My replies are aggressive because i have to debunk the same accusation over and over again, but that doesn't seem to work since i keep receiving feedbacks like
"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.

1. Lender as service provider:
Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.

Contradict yourself much?  Maybe I should ask if there was ever a time when you didn't contradict yourself...  You continue to lie, and the evidence is plastered across the forum.

And we all know why your replies are aggressive; it's because you have no intellect with which to argue rationally.  You claim to be this trading and programming guru, yet have demonstrated that you don't know shit about trading or programming.   You claim your auto-trading bot that you probably hijacked off of github is a quant, but that's just some buzz word you learned.  You wouldn't know a quant if it bit you in the ass.  And somehow you've convinced yourself in your pathetic fantasy world that you're roasting us, right?  

Well I've got news for you buddy, you're a cunt, not a quant, and you've been exposed.

There are 2 options:
You are either fully retarded or, most likely, you are driven by other interests so you pretend not to understand.

Also, i don't claim nothing more than the data and stats displayed in my thread. It doesn't take a genius to understand many of the basics stuff i explained you, may that be coding references or market behaviors. if you are intellectually unable to understand them is not a my problem and surely doesn't make me a guru. The part that you partially quoted out of context was a partnership offer for lenders, very different than our business model. If anyone is curious to know at what i was referring please check the thread but we no longer offer that deal.

I let everyone decide if a user that leaves a feedback like this:



did even bother reading the first lines of our business proposition

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SoVXtCzLpml9B-iiNromUJtGxIkmS7iq/view?usp=sharing

[suchmoon]

I'm giving you and you only one last chance to admit that i was right, and that there are no ways we can steal the client's funds.
If you do it here and change my feedback to positive o neutral  i will do the exact same thing

You are 100% absolutely wrong to claim that an API key can act as a Bitcoin private key. You can keep fucking around with your entitled rants if you want, that's not gonna change a thing as far as my feedback is concerned. I'll check back in a year or so to see if you've grown up. Have a good one.

[CryptoSparks]

I'm giving you and you only one last chance to admit that i was right, and that there are no ways we can steal the client's funds.
If you do it here and change my feedback to positive o neutral  i will do the exact same thing

You are 100% absolutely wrong to claim that an API key can act as a Bitcoin private key. You can keep fucking around with your entitled rants if you want, that's not gonna change a thing as far as my feedback is concerned. I'll check back in a year or so to see if you've grown up. Have a good one.

If im wrong than wikipedia is wrong too.
Even in front of evidence you keep denying  

An api key can be anything, if you generate a "private api key" of an online wallet service that can act as private key as long it's enabled. A bitcoin private key is nothing else than a way to authenticate you as the owner of that wallet. An api key with full privileges (aka private api key) authenticates you as the owner of the account controlling the funds. Now why should be wrong to say that an api key can act a private key? it seems that you don't get the fact tha api keys are modular tools and can be shaped at will.

An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.

WIKIPEDIA



In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals.

How is it possible that a whole forum is watching 2 people fight over what should be a very basic concept , yet after DAYS,  truth is yet to be accepted?

If in 24 hours no geek comes here to confirm that what i'm saying is 100% true, it means that the only users left in this cemetery are trolls, scammers and bounty hunters

[suchmoon]

An api key can be anything, if you generate a "private api key" of an online wallet service that can act as private key as long it's enabled. A bitcoin private key is nothing else than a way to authenticate you as the owner of that wallet. An api key with full privileges (aka private api key) authenticates you as the owner of the account controlling the funds. Now why should be wrong to say that an api key can act a private key? it seems that you don't get the fact tha api keys are modular tools and can be shaped at will.

Oh dear. You seem to think that Bitcoin is some website where you stick your private key in and get authenticated as the "as the owner of that wallet".

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key? Does the API key allow you to receive/spend funds offline (cold wallet)? Can you use the API key to sign a transaction and put it on a public ledger where anyone can verify it?

Just a few basic features of a Bitcoin private key off the top of my head. I'm sure you can find more on Wikipedia.

[CryptoSparks]

An api key can be anything, if you generate a "private api key" of an online wallet service that can act as private key as long it's enabled. A bitcoin private key is nothing else than a way to authenticate you as the owner of that wallet. An api key with full privileges (aka private api key) authenticates you as the owner of the account controlling the funds. Now why should be wrong to say that an api key can act a private key? it seems that you don't get the fact tha api keys are modular tools and can be shaped at will.

Oh dear. You seem to think that Bitcoin is some website where you stick your private key in and get authenticated as the "as the owner of that wallet".

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key? Does the API key allow you to receive/spend funds offline (cold wallet)? Can you use the API key to sign a transaction and put it on a public ledger where anyone can verify it?

Just a few basic features of a Bitcoin private key off the top of my head. I'm sure you can find more on Wikipedia.

What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.

[suchmoon]

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.

What I mean - can you use the API key if Bitmex (or whoever issued the key) is down? Your "terminal" still needs a server to connect to. Funny how the only definition of "website" that comes to your mind is the clicky-tappy one.

What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

If the "service" is kind enough to allow you to do that with the money they hold for you. Pretty much the opposite of what Bitcoin is - being your own bank

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

An API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key the same way like a rock "can act" as a computer as long as you use them as doorstops.

[AdolfinWolf]

What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.

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How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet the funds are actually stored on? You think there's some magic connection between the two? No. The website in question establishes that connection.

How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet? It passes down a function for the wallet to perform. It doesn't substitute ANY of the wallet functionality (eg the private key transaction signing.)
To say that they have the same functionality is just stupid and ignorant.


Not to mention that Bitmex withdrawals are manually reviewed, so even a working api key is no garantuee for your funds. (Not that that was the main point).





Anyways...

You lied about your 495% returns. Case closed. "iT wAs JuSt BaCkTesTinG"

Your provided an API key to us with a couple of dummy trades because you think we're stupid? Or.. do you actually think anyone believes... the... backtesting? you sure don't mention it in your pretty infograph.


This is just misleading. If this was an actual business operation, it would likely be seen as fraud. You have NO proof of any of these returns. You implicating that the api key proves any of these returns is also false = misleading.

Really, looking at this image where you try to pass these imaginary results as legit i can only classify you as a troll

[CryptoSparks]

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.

What I mean - can you use the API key if Bitmex (or whoever issued the key) is down? Your "terminal" still needs a server to connect to. Funny how the only definition of "website" that comes to your mind is the clicky-tappy one.

What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

If the "service" is kind enough to allow you to do that with the money they hold for you. Pretty much the opposite of what Bitcoin is - being your own bank

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

An API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key the same way like a rock "can act" as a computer as long as you use them as doorstops.

What I mean - can you use the API key if Bitmex (or whoever issued the key) is down? Your "terminal" still needs a server to connect to. Funny how the only definition of "website" that comes to your mind is the clicky-tappy one.

Here it's again that arrogant attitude while lacking knowledge. this is the only reason why i keep replying.

Clearly you also don't know the difference between a website (the clicky-tappy one, also called frontend ) and an Application Programming Interface (API) which is what actually manages the client/server requests.
You will be shockingly surprised to discover that a frontend can go down while the API are still fully functional!
This is why a private api key can be useful in accessing accounts when frontend is not available.

FUN FACT: ALL bitmex's fronted runs via the same api requests...meaning that frontend is only linking the API with an UI

And yet again i repeat, an API key is an authentication tool that based on the service can do basically anything.... even ACT AS A PRIVATE KEY.

But hey, throw up a couple more famous bitcoin mottos that you learned as a parrot and you will feel smart again!
Meanwhile go hide under a rock once and for all. You are done here. I gave you more chances of redemption thinking that you were just superficial , instead you are just as dumb as the other 3 idiots that keep making fun of themselves in front of the whole meta section.

 

What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.

...
...
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How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet the funds are actually stored on? You think there's some magic connection between the two? No. The website in question establishes that connection.

How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet? It passes down a function for the wallet to perform. It doesn't substitute ANY of the wallet functionality (eg the private key transaction signing.)
To say that they have the same functionality is just stupid and ignorant.


Not to mention that Bitmex withdrawals are manually reviewed, so even a working api key is no garantuee for your funds. (Not that that was the main point).





Anyways...

You lied about your 495% returns. Case closed. "iT wAs JuSt BaCkTesTinG"

Your provided an API key to us with a couple of dummy trades because you think we're stupid? Or.. do you actually think anyone believes... the... backtesting? you sure don't mention it in your pretty infograph.


This is just misleading. If this was an actual business operation, it would likely be seen as fraud. You have NO proof of any of these returns. You implicating that the api key proves any of these returns is also false = misleading.

Really, looking at this image where you try to pass these imaginary results as legit i can only classify you as a troll

Haven't you proved already not to know what backtests are? how dare you even mentioning that word without understanding how powerful a backtest engine, with 1minute candle sensibility, can be when developing trading strategies and money managements?

Also is not misleading, that stats are 100% accurate to the minute and stake involved even though is obviously a slightly less valuable evidence than the almost 30trades that you can see via api key.. furthermore is clearly written that via api access you can access all trades history since the official launch, which was a couple weeks ago. 24 winning trades in a row and 10% roi is right on track with the backtest data.

I can't imagine the attacks i would have received if there was a loss in these first couple weeks.... you guys dared attacking a 100% win rate and a bulletproof business model  







BTW approaching 1000 views , i guess meta is appreciating the savage roasting in silence like a horror movie