My market vision at this time...

[FanEagle]

Well, there are still some levels of trust in ethereum by some investors and they are very loyal to ethereum, if you see the bull run start now, one of the coins that many people will still consider alongside bitcoin is ethereum first before looking into other coin that are still within the tops in the market.

I do not believe that it is over for ethereum yet, they might be facing their trial time now which bitcoin had once faced too when it was first created, and if ethereum breaks through this time around, it will really make heads for the high and may be the only altcoin that will rise during altcoin season because this is the coin that people will pay attention to as the head of all the coins that we have in the market, the vision I have for ethereum right now is that it may reach $5000 too.

Don't get me wrong, Ethereum is definitely one of the more legit cryptos.

My concerns though are (a) whether Ethereum will have another tokenized spring like the ICO summer of 2017 and (b) how likely it is that newcomers are going to head for Ethereum as "the next Bitcoin" rather than some wholly new coin (ie. "the next Ethereum").

It is not even the direct investors of Ethereum that are making Ethereum grow, the main thing making Ethereum to grow is the ICO that is being run under their chain system , and this real birthed so many coins in that 2017, this was exactly what made the cryptocurrency market to boom in 2017, and then, people still relied so much on the ICO and they relied on may projects that they could get to make some money, until Ethereum watched the system that they have built for years do down the drain in the hands of scammers and bad project developers.

If Ethereum had done like Binance, where they make sure that every project that approached their platform is being verified, the level of scam projects would have reduced and Ethereum still continue to retain its name till date, but they wanted decentralization, and that is what they have got. A dying project.

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[Kakmakr]

The other day I watched a real-time animated graph of a time-line comparing BTC and some prominent Alt coins performance and the trend was very clear... when Bitcoin goes up, most Alt coins goes up too and most Alt coins started with a "Bang" during the hype cycle and then it goes down over time, where the Bitcoin price goes up steadily over time.

I cannot find it now, but it was a bit of an eye opener, because you quickly see how Alt coins have a short "hype" cycle and then it dies, compared to the Bitcoin price that just constantly goes higher and higher over time.  

[ifinta]

The other day I watched a real-time animated graph of a time-line comparing BTC and some prominent Alt coins performance and the trend was very clear... when Bitcoin goes up, most Alt coins goes up too and most Alt coins started with a "Bang" during the hype cycle and then it goes down over time, where the Bitcoin price goes up steadily over time.

I cannot find it now, but it was a bit of an eye opener, because you quickly see how Alt coins have a short "hype" cycle and then it dies, compared to the Bitcoin price that just constantly goes higher and higher over time.  

Well. I know, I see this trend also since 2011. But early 2017 was different. I know. It was a planned attack, I see clearly already. But the accumulation phase was too small... The attackers loosed the controll then above the market, and then tried to fork bitcoin in some other bitcoins - to break the dominance in other way, but it won' succeeded also.

At this time I detected a much bigger accumulation phase for a such attack. But maybe I fail. Maybe. It has a probability.

The government(s) trying to establish a market control over the crypto market, and it could be implemented through a well marketing (direction to ETH i.e., ETH will be green, and Bitcoin won't...) to BIG SELECTED INVESTORS,
The masses will be influenced through profitability and medias. They will be forget Bitcoin later. The big energy consumption can be the base of the detection of miners. So it is possible then to ban Bitcoin well.

It remains other Alt's (mostly not PoW - what seems to be a good change, but...) and maybe in several places in the world PoW coins, i.e. bitcoin also, I know, but not more possible (or not with a small effort) to win the support the masses. The possibility to break the tendence of destoying our Living Environment through our wrong economical laws will we lost then. Or maybe not. We working hard on our Vortexledger project, I should say.

[redsun114]

Please read this post ( please vote also ), ...:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184757.msg52467257#msg52467257

Bitcoin will still remain at its position. A lot of investors prefer to invest in Bitcoin and that's why it is more dominant in the market than other cryptocurrencies. Lots of market predictions I have seen are always favoring Bitcoin for a long term investment. That's why I have invested so much money in it. When the next bull run comes, most of these altcoins will be nowhere to be seen, as Bitcoin will occupy much of the space and more of these altcoins will only be decreasing in price and nothing more. If there are coins that will increase, it will only be the top altcoins with a huge market cap.

I see some kind of difference..last year from now it almost down and over low compaired to last year..But to see about that graphics its almost the same going down and down.

It seems to me like altcoins are losing theirs to Ethereum. Just a few altcoins has been doing good as of recent, like BNB. Ethereum keeps growing in market cap and others keeps on losing. Bitcoin retains the 67.7% market dominance. Ethereum is way below, though I just saw a comment here that within five weeks it will be up and close to BTC. I don't believe such is going to happen. But if it does happen, then it's really going to affect Bitcoin, because a lot of investors will switch.

[exstasie]

It seems to me like altcoins are losing theirs to Ethereum. Just a few altcoins has been doing good as of recent, like BNB. Ethereum keeps growing in market cap and others keeps on losing.

Ethereum looks very strong, much stronger than other altcoins. I can't find a single chart that compares. Sentiment is lovely too. Everyone keeps saying "Ethereum is worthless cuz no ICO bubble".......clearly most people have sold or shorted it.

My bet is that 2020 will be very bullish for altcoins. People are betting that Ethereum will falter in the next bull market, that something shiny and new will take all the spotlight from it. Looking at the ETH charts though, I doubt it. Flippening talk will come back.

[xabre]

ETH become best investment assets for us to keep hold and take much profit with ETH, now you can buy and invest your money in ETH for long time because ETH still at lower price.

[traderethereum]

ETH become best investment assets for us to keep hold and take much profit with ETH, now you can buy and invest your money in ETH for long time because ETH still at lower price.

So many people are hoping to see ethereum can get increase again.
Yes, I see that ethereum have a chance to be the best investment assets, but I still prefer bitcoin for the best investment.
Maybe ethereum will be the second investment for me as I see that the moves of the ethereum price will always follow bitcoin.
I don't know if there is a surprise from ethereum that can lift the price to break the higher rate.
And if that happens, many people will sell their ethereum and take the profit.
But I don't know if it will happen in the short time because bitcoin itself still not moving to the higher price, so maybe we will see ethereum will be like that before the price can start to increase.
Maybe in the next year, we will see that surprise because I hear that the Casper will launch in the next year if I am not mistaken.

[jaocoincrypto18]

The main pull behind ETH's rise during the last bull market seems to have been ICOs. I don't think that this hype will repeat however, so I'm not sure about whether ETH will make that much of a comeback.

It also seems to me that people have become more wary about investing in alts, so that's another factor that gives me doubt in alt coins chipping away at BTC's market dominance any time soon.

Should Bitcoin make a major comeback however, I can very well imagine enough newcomers FOMOing into the crypto market via alts (ie. trying to find "the next bitcoin") to make such an investment profitable from a fiat perspective. However I have my doubts that we'll see Bitcoin market dominance drop below 50% during the next hype cycle.

I couldn't agree more... As IEOs have been the most popular way of funding I think ETH is going to lose more value on the long term.
As a result, Bitcoin is going to rise more on value and increase its dominance.

I still have a doubt with that if ETH would lose more value due to the popularity of IEOs. Let's just wait and see what would be the result when the bull market starts while Bitcoin starts to gain the momentum to push and find its next ATH price.

I agree with you, even IEO is becoming popular now but still it will not guarantee a sure success as there are lot of projects that are failed to collect investment even they use the IEO platform and it is not feasible too as they need to pay the exchanges first to enroll their project currency.

[Fundamentals Of]

ETH become best investment assets for us to keep hold and take much profit with ETH, now you can buy and invest your money in ETH for long time because ETH still at lower price.

So many people are hoping to see ethereum can get increase again.
Yes, I see that ethereum have a chance to be the best investment assets, but I still prefer bitcoin for the best investment.
Maybe ethereum will be the second investment for me as I see that the moves of the ethereum price will always follow bitcoin.
I don't know if there is a surprise from ethereum that can lift the price to break the higher rate.
And if that happens, many people will sell their ethereum and take the profit.
But I don't know if it will happen in the short time because bitcoin itself still not moving to the higher price, so maybe we will see ethereum will be like that before the price can start to increase.
Maybe in the next year, we will see that surprise because I hear that the Casper will launch in the next year if I am not mistaken.

In terms of investment or asset, Ethereum cannot compete with Bitcoin. There is no point insisting on that. Ethereum may come second but it is farther from what competition may actually mean.

Ethereum 2.0 will be coming early this January 2020 and hopefully investors will find the development convincing and promising enough to make them release a significant amount of investment money to stock more ETH in their portfolio.

[prix]

Ethereum 2.0 will be coming early this January 2020 and hopefully investors will find the development convincing and promising enough to make them release a significant amount of investment money to stock more ETH in their portfolio.

January 3 is expected to launch only the Phase 0 (Beacon Chain) of the Ethereum 2.0.
The main thing is the introduction of Casper POS.

The Phase 1 date, which includes sharding, has not been announced.
And sharding should greatly increase network performance.

https://docs.ethhub.io/ethereum-roadmap/ethereum-2.0/eth-2.0-phases/

And there are Phase 2 also.

The sharding roadmap according to the official wiki suggests 6 phases. Justin Drake strongly believes that the sharding phases 1 and 2 will come in 2020 and 2021, respectively (assuming that the Beacon Chain launches in 2019).

So, 3 January is just first step for Ethereum 2.0.

[Jating]

It seems to me like altcoins are losing theirs to Ethereum. Just a few altcoins has been doing good as of recent, like BNB. Ethereum keeps growing in market cap and others keeps on losing.

Ethereum looks very strong, much stronger than other altcoins. I can't find a single chart that compares. Sentiment is lovely too. Everyone keeps saying "Ethereum is worthless cuz no ICO bubble".......clearly most people have sold or shorted it.

My bet is that 2020 will be very bullish for altcoins. People are betting that Ethereum will falter in the next bull market, that something shiny and new will take all the spotlight from it. Looking at the ETH charts though, I doubt it. Flippening talk will come back.

ETH 2.0 will be coming early January 2020 so maybe after that we can see altcoins starting to recover and bounce back after a disappointing 2018-2019. ICO's are dead now because we have a new emerging business model, IEO.

I don't know about the "Flippening" though, because I'm not seeing Ethereum reaching any heights as compare to before. If ever Ethereum rose in 2020, bitcoin will be out of the reach and I doubt that we can hear discussions about this "Flippening".

[binhvo1505]

Please read this post ( please vote also ), ...:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184757.msg52467257#msg52467257

... and this market vision from last year also:

Do you think ETH will really grow when Bitcoin plummets?
I don't believe that will happen. When bitcoin drops, I am sure that many investors or traders will dump the alts to avoid losing money.
This is how the market has been doing these days and I still believe it will continue in the coming months.

[deisik]

It seems to me like altcoins are losing theirs to Ethereum. Just a few altcoins has been doing good as of recent, like BNB. Ethereum keeps growing in market cap and others keeps on losing.

Ethereum looks very strong, much stronger than other altcoins. I can't find a single chart that compares. Sentiment is lovely too. Everyone keeps saying "Ethereum is worthless cuz no ICO bubble".......clearly most people have sold or shorted it.

My bet is that 2020 will be very bullish for altcoins. People are betting that Ethereum will falter in the next bull market, that something shiny and new will take all the spotlight from it. Looking at the ETH charts though, I doubt it. Flippening talk will come back.

ETH 2.0 will be coming early January 2020 so maybe after that we can see altcoins starting to recover and bounce back after a disappointing 2018-2019. ICO's are dead now because we have a new emerging business model, IEO

This release is not set in stone

People were expecting Constantinople earlier this year (in the first days of January, if I'm not mistaken). It just didn't happen. It looks like Ethereum has become too complex to change anything in it without risking to wreak havoc in the whole infrastructure. In other words, it is easier to create a new coin from scratch than to rebuild an existing one (but that's the route the Ethereum developers seem to have taken anyway, or some variety thereof)

[mazdafunsun]

You are saying that BTC market cap will go up relative to other coins as from the 2nd picture,right? And the alts will go down.
The first  picture shows BTC dominance going down but alts going up . This doe snot make sense .The BTC dominance should increase if the second picture is true.

[ifinta]

You are saying that BTC market cap will go up relative to other coins as from the 2nd picture,right? And the alts will go down.
The first  picture shows BTC dominance going down but alts going up . This doe snot make sense .The BTC dominance should increase if the second picture is true.

The first picture is my forecast today. Bitcoin will loose the dominance in a half year - in my opinion. Maybe ETH get it, or other good alt. I show ETH as a winner on the first picture.

The second picture was my forecast in last year. Just compare it with the real diagram today. The forecast was well done, only a little time later, but the Bitcoin dominance reached the high, what I guessed.

[1Referee]

People are betting that Ethereum will falter in the next bull market, that something shiny and new will take all the spotlight from it. Looking at the ETH charts though, I doubt it.

Who are these people? EOS, TRON, ADA fanatics?  

Ethereum has the network effect that most probably, no other altcoin will be able to take from it. "superior" smart contract platforms are present already, but most people aren't interested in that, just like how people aren't interested in coins that provide faster and cheaper transactions than Bitcoin.

EOS and TRON are both inflating all sorts of metrics to point out how many users are active on their platforms, but it's super easy to manipulate metrics on these platforms into oblivion with how transaction fees are either zero or just barely above that. Developers and the wider dapp ecosystem have chosen already, and that choice is Ethereum.

[traderethereum]

ETH become best investment assets for us to keep hold and take much profit with ETH, now you can buy and invest your money in ETH for long time because ETH still at lower price.

So many people are hoping to see ethereum can get increase again.
Yes, I see that ethereum have a chance to be the best investment assets, but I still prefer bitcoin for the best investment.
Maybe ethereum will be the second investment for me as I see that the moves of the ethereum price will always follow bitcoin.
I don't know if there is a surprise from ethereum that can lift the price to break the higher rate.
And if that happens, many people will sell their ethereum and take the profit.
But I don't know if it will happen in the short time because bitcoin itself still not moving to the higher price, so maybe we will see ethereum will be like that before the price can start to increase.
Maybe in the next year, we will see that surprise because I hear that the Casper will launch in the next year if I am not mistaken.

In terms of investment or asset, Ethereum cannot compete with Bitcoin. There is no point insisting on that. Ethereum may come second but it is farther from what competition may actually mean.

Ethereum 2.0 will be coming early this January 2020 and hopefully investors will find the development convincing and promising enough to make them release a significant amount of investment money to stock more ETH in their portfolio.

That is right. Somewhat, ethereum will still behind bitcoin, and with the other altcoin, ethereum cannot beat bitcoin.
But ethereum will have a chance to increase high after bitcoin or before bitcoin increase and a few days ago proves that ethereum can increase for a small price.
That will also happen to the other coins and no matter if the altcoin price is at a low price, it will increase in the future.
I am curious about what happens after the Ethereum 2.0 launch.
But I won't surprise if the price cannot increase after its launch if the bitcoin price is not rising so high.
But if we compare between ethereum with the other altcoin, then ethereum will have the position and the other altcoin will be difficult to beat the ethereum position.
Maybe we will see a surprise at the cryptocurrency list in the next year, and I think there is a change position in that list.

[rose9696]

I thought it would be stable for 1 and a half months and will start pumping.
Bitcoin pump or dump is dependent on a lot of different events. If Bakkt appears this year, it will be a big pump for the market when new capital flows are granted to the market. The second reason is Bitcoin halving, next year there will be a Bitcoin halving event and that is why the price of Bitcoin cannot drop anymore.

[el kaka22]

If the staking thing happens I am not sure what will happen with the ICO world. At one hand we have IEO getting bigger and binance chain type of things getting bigger whereas ICO getting lower and lower funding, but at the other hand we will have funding making funding itself, think about it if you fund a company 10 million dollars with ethereum, they can literally just keep the money and stake it and use the stake profits to continue with the project. ICO's will have a whole another reason to continue looking for funding in ICO form with ethereum so they can make more money.

At the end of the day, it is about the developers, if they want to switch back to ethereum then this update will make a ton of change in price, if not then there won't be big change.

[exstasie]

Ethereum looks very strong, much stronger than other altcoins. I can't find a single chart that compares. Sentiment is lovely too. Everyone keeps saying "Ethereum is worthless cuz no ICO bubble".......clearly most people have sold or shorted it.

My bet is that 2020 will be very bullish for altcoins. People are betting that Ethereum will falter in the next bull market, that something shiny and new will take all the spotlight from it. Looking at the ETH charts though, I doubt it. Flippening talk will come back.

ETH 2.0 will be coming early January 2020 so maybe after that we can see altcoins starting to recover and bounce back after a disappointing 2018-2019. ICO's are dead now because we have a new emerging business model, IEO.

I don't know about the "Flippening" though, because I'm not seeing Ethereum reaching any heights as compare to before. If ever Ethereum rose in 2020, bitcoin will be out of the reach and I doubt that we can hear discussions about this "Flippening".

I'm not sure the flippening would actually happen, but people will start speculating about it again for sure.

It's possible too. The ETH supply is growing a lot faster than the BTC supply, so overtaking BTC's market cap is getting easier and easier in terms of price. Market cap is such a dumb metric......