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November 13, 2019, 09:25:15 AM
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I have, my memory fails me so i cannot find the topic in question.

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I am willing to cooperate with police on real scams. Whenever someone asks me to release a scammer's IP, I tell them to have police email me from an official police address. I have received police requests a handful of times. Mostly the cases were real scams and I gave the police the requested info. In some cases I've rejected their requests. For example, I refused to give information to some foreign version of the SEC because securities laws are unjust. Of course, you should not trust that I will act in your best interest. If you want to be anonymous, then you must use Tor (or whatever).
Yeah, I am aware of this but I said in practice I have never seen it. May be h4ns can talk prior about this with theymos before going for such steps if he really wants.


But here is my question that is concerning me:

What we as a community do when we know that there are some bad force behind something and someone (x) is blackmailing someone else (y) to drop a claim because he (x) has such information to put him (y) trouble in real life.

Do we allow the person x to do such thing? If not then how to we keep the community safe from such person so that some other user (z) does not fall a victim of the same?

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November 13, 2019, 09:31:08 AM
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However, i still believe my initial support for this flag was correct. I read h4ns's topic and to the best of my knowledge, i tought it was valid.
I asked you to show the alleged written contract and you are not able to deliver!

Therefore you knowingly support a flag containing incorrect fact-statements and abused the trust system!

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.


I am not a lawyer, and i'm not interested in discussing wether or not an e-mail is to be considered to be a written contract (or not), or that mixing the word "donation" into the conversation results in making every payment a donation (or not).
In other words, you publicly support that a written contract was violated, but you do not want to know whether or not it is true! Cheesy




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For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

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2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

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3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
Does not exist!

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4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract
Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! Roll Eyes

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November 13, 2019, 09:37:26 AM
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--snip--

What we as a community do when we know that there are some bad force behind something and someone (x) is blackmailing someone else (y) to drop a claim because he (x) has such information to put him (y) trouble in real life.

Do we allow the person x to do such thing? If not then how to we keep the community safe from such person so that some other user (z) does not fall a victim of the same?

Personally, i feel bad i had to remove my support for the tag, but with the withdrawal of h4ns, i'd be supporting something the original victim doesn't want support for. It's perfectly possible it was a case of backmail, but so far there is no proof...
Blackmailing is a real life offence, not just breaking a forum rule, i personally feel that if h4ns is being blackmailed, the least of his worries would be getting GP tagged or flagged, he'd rather see him fined or behind bars. The only way to do this is getting law enforcement involved.
But once again, this is all speculation... I've seen no proof h4ns is being blackmailed. It's perfectly possible GP just payed h4ns the €210 to get rid of this problem, or that h4ns just decided to forgive GP since he tought €210 wasn't worth his troubles...

But, if there ever is a flag for blackmailing, and there is sufficient proof for me to conclude h4ns was blackmailed, i'd support that flag in a heartbeat. For now, i have left negative trust on GP's profile based on the things i've actually observed: his erratic behaviour, the fact that he posts medical information about mental illnesses without consent (thus invades other's privacy), the fact that he twists words and defenitions to find loopholes (think about fixating on dates, the word "donation", the fact that he makes financial claims for unproven facts and then deducts refunds from these claims,...

@GP's rant: keep repeating the same semantics over and over again won't make me change my mind. I find the fact that you don't think an email is a written contract semantics. I find the fact that you brought the word "donations" in your emails semantics. I find the fact that the original flag wasn't pinpointing the exact date semantics.

I'm not in DT1, but please contact Theymos if you feel i should be excluded from DT1 if i would ever make it into there by the voting system (highly doubtfull, i don't think a lot of people would ever include me in their trustlists)

The only reason i withdrew my support was because h4ns withdrew his flag... For some strange reason, you've gotten what you wanted...

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November 13, 2019, 10:01:08 AM
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It's perfectly possible GP just payed h4ns the €210 to get rid of this problem,
The personality we experienced from GP so far, I do not think a person like GP would not try to take leverage of the refund he made and kept it silent. In fact GP is saying he owes y amount of money from h4ns and the amount of €210 has been deducted from that y amount (do you see how he is counter attacking?)

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or that h4ns just decided to forgive GP since he tought €210 wasn't worth his troubles...
This could be a reason but again I do not think this is the case.

If I have a clash with someone then I will not go and write a long easy to some xyz person saying that ignore that someone coz this does not worth beep beep beep coz he has my beep beep beep etc.

By the way, you are perfectly okay to support or not to support a flag. My goal of this conversation is not anything to do with your flag supporting or dropping. I hope you understand and don't feel bad about it.

I am trying to find a ground of what we as a community should do if we have this feeling that there are some odd things going on and someone is becoming a victim of blackmailing. If we allow this kind of blackmailing then in the future the same person will make more victim of him. You or me could be the next one!

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November 14, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Last edit: November 16, 2019, 07:50:26 PM by mprep
 #225

How can the community prevent bitcointalk accounts to abuse the trust system?

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.
The below extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts knowingly support the incorrect fact-statement that Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019, but are not able to show the alleged written contract!

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

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November 16, 2019, 03:11:50 AM
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Is bitcointalk.org a legal-free zone where everyone can abuse the trust system?

Seeing as how you, one of the worst trust abusers on the forum, is still here, there's obviously not much "legality" associated with the trust system. What are you even doing here? Every chance you've had to salvage your reputation you just doubled down with your crazy antics. You should not be in charge of any kind of business whatsoever, and certainly nobody should trust you with their money (or confidence, or personal information, or time for that matter).

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November 16, 2019, 09:38:07 AM
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Is bitcointalk.org a legal-free zone where everyone can abuse the trust system?

Seeing as how you, one of the worst trust abusers on the forum, is still here, there's obviously not much "legality" associated with the trust system. What are you even doing here? Every chance you've had to salvage your reputation you just doubled down with your crazy antics. You should not be in charge of any kind of business whatsoever, and certainly nobody should trust you with their money (or confidence, or personal information, or time for that matter).
Why do you abuse the trust system and knowingly support a flag containing the incorrect fact-statement that a written contract was violated around July 2019?

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

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Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

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November 16, 2019, 10:54:37 AM
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Why do you abuse the trust system and knowingly support a flag containing the incorrect fact-statement that a written contract was violated around July 2019?

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Support: nutildah

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

You violated a written contract, and theymos is not on your side here. We as a community have decided that your email to h4ns in which you promised to refund his money constitutes a written contract, even if it is not a legally enforceable one. I'm sure you've sent theymos a hundred PMs. If he agreed with you and not us, we would have heard about it by now.

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November 16, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
Last edit: November 16, 2019, 11:33:47 AM by game-protect
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You violated a written contract,
Please show the violated written contract?

At what day and how did the scam happen?

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November 24, 2019, 09:36:33 PM
Last edit: November 30, 2019, 01:03:04 PM by game-protect
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You publicly support that Game Protect violated a written contract July 2019

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h4ns alleged the following, but later withdrew it: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Please show the written contract?

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You violated a written contract,
Please show the violated written contract?

At what day and how did the scam happen?

We've discussed this point a hundred times already. You don't consider your email to h4ns to be a written contract. We do. Nobody is going to change their mind that you are the least trustworthy member of this forum, and if you keep posting here we will always remind you of your scamming past. Your business here is finished. You can leave now.

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November 28, 2019, 10:21:05 AM
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You don't consider your email to h4ns to be a written contract.
The publicly stated and appicable laws do not consider the email I sent to h4ns as a written contract!

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

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3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

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https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

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4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract
Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! Roll Eyes


We do.
Thank you for confirming that 95 extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts knowingly support a flag containing incorrect fact-statements!


Nobody is going to change their mind that you are the least trustworthy member of this forum, and if you keep posting here we will always remind you of your scamming past.
Who did I scam and how?

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