Please make your vote for the flag created against game-protect

[AB de Royse777]

I am creating this topic to get an exposure of the flag created buy user h4ns against game-protect.

I've created a flag. What's next?

Flag URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=741

Thanks for your vote (favor or against)

Cheers :-)

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[Kalemder]

@h4ns, Can you write your claim clearly?
What is the accusation and what is the evidence for the accusation?
I can evaluate accordingly.

And what is your defense? @game-protect

Can you tell with short and clear sentences with the evidence?

[h4ns]

@h4ns, Can you write your claim clearly?
What is the accusation and what is the evidence for the accusation?
I can evaluate accordingly.

And what is your defense? @game-protect

Can you tell with short and clear sentences with the evidence?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

tl;dr
- I sent GP €210 for covering a processing fee which he promised to refund on June 30 in the event he isn’t able to recover my funds
- he didn’t return the money to date
- he has stopped replying to my emails for almost two weeks
- he is ignoring all of my forum posts

[Kalemder]

@game-protect I sent you p.m, "Hello, there is such a claim about you. What is the truth of the incident? Can you defend with the evidence?"
I support the flag until you defend yourself.

@h4ns, I'm very sorry for your situation. I hope you will recover the damage soon.

[Avirunes]

@game-protect I sent you p.m, "Hello, there is such a claim about you. What is the truth of the incident? Can you defend with the evidence?"
I support the flag until you defend yourself.

Proof in the scam accusation was real and what h4ns said is true. At this point GP knows about the accusation dropped at him and he seems to be ignoring these questions so that he can save his 5 BTC that he put on the line trying to show himself as a genuine gambling protection service provider.

There was no need to throw a PM at him BTW. He will most likely be ignoring it anyway.

[above the one above all]

I don't wanna take sides but nearly everyone going against Game protect is advertising a crypto casino in their signature.  They are really trying hard to protect the hand that feeds them. 

[suchmoon]

He will most likely be ignoring it anyway.

He's been aware of the accusation for about a week and AFAIK his only response was this, repeated today in some sort of delusional twist:

Asking to lend BTC worth 10€ is not proof of a scam based on real world laws and regulations!

Asking to lend BTC worth 10€ is a serious crime in the real world!

[game-protect]

It meanwhile turned out that h4ns is lying!!!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't wanna take sides but nearly everyone going against Game protect is advertising a crypto casino in their signature.  They are really trying hard to protect the hand that feeds them. 

I'm not, and I don't believe that just because someone has a casino advertised in their signature it means they necessarily endorse that casino personally--or game-protect for that matter.

he seems to be ignoring these questions so that he can save his 5 BTC

Jesus, that's a lot of money. 

I'm leaning toward supporting the flag, but I'll keep my eye on what transpires in this thread before doing so.  I don't expect game-protect to come back here with a cogent argument--I can barely understand a word he writes even on his best days.

[suchmoon]

It meanwhile turned out that h4ns is lying!!!

It didn't. At best it proves that you were lying about a new agreement. You just posted screenshots of your own e-mails where you're saying some random nonsense and you're not even offering any new deadlines or anything.

[game-protect]

It meanwhile turned out that h4ns is lying!!!

It didn't. At best it proves that you were lying about a new agreement. You just posted screenshots of your own e-mails where you're saying some random nonsense and you're not even offering any new deadlines or anything.

The published conversation confirms that h4ns wanted my further assistance without deadline.

September 3rd he informed on SBR that Game Protect is likely a scam with reference to the extremely mentally brain wash nonsense shit posted on bitcointalk.org



If I would have scammed him July 2019, he would have informed on SBR that I scammed him for 210€ and would not have informed that I am likely a scammer in reference to the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit posted on bitcointalk.org!

h4ns further informs that until September 3rd he had only a suspicion that Game Protect is a scam and this suspicion was substantiated with asking him if he can lend me BTC worth 10€ the second time September 3rd!

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It meanwhile turned out that h4ns is lying!!!

I still do not see that. Am I blind 🤣

I'm leaning toward supporting the flag, but I'll keep my eye on what transpires in this thread before doing so.  I don't expect game-protect to come back here with a cogent argument--I can barely understand a word he writes even on his best days.

I see your support in the other flag but not in the red one. GP is a proven for his scamming. May be you missed to read this accusations: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

[nutildah]

The published conversation confirms that h4ns wanted my further assistance without deadline.

No, it doesn't say that. And what they actually said was:

I just asked for a refund based on our agreement.

They clearly asked for a refund. You said you would give it to them. You lied. You, game-protect, or Game Protect of game-protect.com, are a scammer.

[game-protect]

The published conversation confirms that h4ns wanted my further assistance without deadline.

No, it doesn't say that. And what they actually said was:

I just asked for a refund based on our agreement.

After he asked to get the 210€ back we had a further conversation and thereafter he wanted my further assistance without deadline!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

After he asked to get the 210€ back we had a further conversation and thereafter he wanted my further assistance without deadline!

Why are you stretching in that. Just refund the money that paid. He already posted in several topic that he wants his money back. Sounds like you are really not into refunding.

The tag is very appropriate for you.

[suchmoon]

After he asked to get the 210€ back we had a further conversation and thereafter he wanted my further assistance without deadline!

I don't see where he says "[I want] further assistance without deadline".

[actmyname]

After he asked to get the 210€ back we had a further conversation and thereafter he wanted my further assistance without deadline!

Interesting, but how did you have a conversation with just one email, which was sent by you?

[game-protect]

h4ns did not want the 210€ back after I informed him that there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer.

GP to h4ns July 1st: "However, there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer."

[suchmoon]

h4ns did not want the 210€ back after I informed him that there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer.

GP to h4ns July 1st: "However, there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer."

Please show us where h4ns said "I don't want the 210€ back".

[game-protect]

h4ns did not want the 210€ back after I informed him that there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer.

GP to h4ns July 1st: "However, there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer."

Please show us where h4ns said "I don't want the 210€ back".

Don't saying that he wants it back is saying that he does not want it back!

[suchmoon]

h4ns did not want the 210€ back after I informed him that there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer.

GP to h4ns July 1st: "However, there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer."

Please show us where h4ns said "I don't want the 210€ back".

Don't saying that he wants it back is saying that he does not want it back!

Considering that he said many times that he wants it back and not once that he doesn't, there should be no doubt that he wants it back.

[game-protect]

h4ns did not want the 210€ back after I informed him that there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer.

GP to h4ns July 1st: "However, there are some things in process and it makes sense to wait longer."

Please show us where h4ns said "I don't want the 210€ back".

Don't saying that he wants it back is saying that he does not want it back!

Considering that he said many times that he wants it back and not once that he doesn't, there should be no doubt that he wants it back.

How many times did he say July 1st that he wants the 210€ back and does not want my assistance anymore?

[AB de Royse777]

How may times did he say July 1st that he wants the 210€ back and does not want my assistance anymore?

Bud, what drag you take?
Please feel free to share some in here.
May be we all need some to get hype like you.
Don't you know how to give up?

[game-protect]

After he asked to get the 210€ back we had a further conversation and thereafter he wanted my further assistance without deadline!

Interesting, but how did you have a conversation with just one email, which was sent by you?

The conversation July 1st consists of at least 4 emails.

[actmyname]

After he asked to get the 210€ back we had a further conversation and thereafter he wanted my further assistance without deadline!

Interesting, but how did you have a conversation with just one email, which was sent by you?

The conversation July 1st consists of at least 4 emails.

Feel free to link that... instead of just one email that comes from you.

[game-protect]

After he asked to get the 210€ back we had a further conversation and thereafter he wanted my further assistance without deadline!

Interesting, but how did you have a conversation with just one email, which was sent by you?

The conversation July 1st consists of at least 4 emails.

Feel free to link that... instead of just one email that comes from you.

Who did the false and misleading scam accusation, I or h4ns?

If h4ns did the false and misleading scam accusation, why do not you ask him to publish our July 1st email conversation?

Why did not h4ns publish our July 1st email conversation?

To mislead extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts?

Despite of this, why do you support a scam accusation and afterwards start to ask for proof?

In the real world you first investigate and collect proof and afterwards decide whether or not you will support it!

[AB de Royse777]

Who did the false and misleading scam accusation, I or h4ns?

FTFY and the answer is h4ns because he asked you to give his money back but you never refunded yet.

If h4ns did the false and misleading scam accusation,

It's you who are saying that it's false and misleading but the evidences do not say the same. It says h4ns asked several time even in he forum to give him the refund.

why do not you ask him to publish our July 1st email conversation?

Not relevant anymore.

Why did not h4ns publish our July 1st email conversation?

Obviously, he wants to show us that you are a scammer.

To mislead extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts?

You are the one who is misleading your extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brain.

Despite of this, why do you support a scam accusation and afterwards start to ask for proof?

The scam accusations had all the evidences it needed to support. Your extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brain may not understand any of it.

In the real world you first investigate and collect proof and afterwards decide whether or not you will support it!

You do not need to teach us the rules and laws, just give the refund.

[game-protect]

Why is the July 1st conversation not relevant anymore?

Why did not h4ns publish our July 1st email conversation?

Obviously, he wants to show us that you are a scammer.

You just confirmed that h4ns intentionally hide proof of the July 1st conversation to mislead extremely me tally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts to support his false and misleading scam accusation!

It says h4ns asked several time even in he forum to give him the refund.

When asked h4ns several time to give him the refund?

July or September 2019?

[AB de Royse777]

Why is the July 1st conversation not relevant anymore?

Because it's publicly known that h4ns wants the refund. There are no point to go back and forth anymore.

When asked h4ns several time to give him the refund?

July or September 2019?

Again it's publicly know there are no need to go back and forth anymore.

Do you have the money to refund?

[game-protect]

Why is the July 1st conversation not relevant anymore?

Because it's publicly known that h4ns want the refund. There are no point to go back and forth anymore.

Yes, it is publicly known that h4ns wants the 210€ back since September 3rd, after his brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam with asking him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€.

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

But why does the false and misleading scam accusation say that the scam happened July 2019, even though he wanted my further assistance until September 3rd?

[AB de Royse777]

Yes, it is publicly known that h4ns wanted the 210€ back September 3rd, after his brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scammer with asking him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€.

But why does the false and misleading scam accusation say that the scam happened July 2019, even though he wanted my further until September 3rd?

Noting else matter as long as it's publicly known that you have not made the refund. So make the refund if you have money.

Do you have it?

Yes, it is publicly known

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[game-protect]

Noting else matter as long as it's publicly known that you have not made the refund. So make the refund if you have money.

Do you have it?

It is publicly known and verified by real world laws and regulations that I made the refund!

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

Please answer my questions?

[AB de Royse777]

So you are going back to the same shit again?

It is publicly known and verified by real world laws and regulations that I made the refund!

No it's not, you have not made the refund yet.

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

h4ns does not require your service anymore. So, your numbers are invalid.

Please answer my questions?

You question was answered but you have not answered mine yet.

Do you have the money to refund?


 

[game-protect]

It is publicly known and verified by real world laws and regulations that I made the refund!

No it's not, you have not made the refund yet.

All judges and state lawyers have studied law and it is clear that low level signature spammers like you are not qualified to assess legal things properly!

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

h4ns does not require your service anymore. So, your numbers are invalid.

Please explain the relationship between h4ns does not require my service anymore and the damage caused by his defamation campaign towards GP?

[AB de Royse777]

All judges and state lawyers have studied law and it is clear that low level signature spammers like you are not qualified to assess legal things properly!

Really! who your fake judges and fake made up state laywers? Obviously they are not qualified to even understand the legal things. Assessing comes later.

Please explain the relationship between h4ns does not require my service anymore and the damage caused by his defamation campaign towards GP?

h4ns did not do any damage towards GP it was you who did it for yourself. The deal was pretty simple - when the concern raised you could just repay his money since your service was a failure.

Now you have skipped my question again,
Do you have the money to repay?

[game-protect]

h4ns did not do any damage towards GP it was you who did it for yourself.

Did I open the scam accusation or h4ns?

The deal was pretty simple -

What was the deal?

[AB de Royse777]

Did I open the scam accusation or h4ns?

Who do you think?

The deal was pretty simple -

What was the deal?

Seems like you lost your eyesight after the "-"?
Read again (now with bold font)

The deal was pretty simple - when the concern raised you could just repay his money since your service was a failure.

Anyway, you have not yet answer the question.
Do you have the money to repay?

[game-protect]

h4ns did not do any damage towards GP it was you who did it for yourself.

The scam accusation caused the damage towards Game Protect!

Did I open the scam accusation or h4ns?

The deal was pretty simple -

What was the deal?

Seems like you lost your eyesight after the "-"?
Read again (now with bold font)

The deal was pretty simple - when the concern raised you could just repay his money since your service was a failure.

When was the concern raised?

What was the deal?

[AB de Royse777]

Did I open the scam accusation or h4ns?

You have not read my response fully, did you? Making it in bold font.

Did I open the scam accusation or h4ns?

Who do you think?

When was the concern raised?
What was the deal?

None does not matter anymore. It's publicly known that you need to repay the money to h4ns.

You are skipping my question again and it's another one of the many times:
Do you have the money to repay?

[game-protect]

When was the concern raised?
What was the deal?

None does not matter anymore.

To determine whether or not and when a scam happened we of course need to know the details!

It's publicly know that you need to repay the money to h4ns.

It is also publicly known that I already refunded the 210€!

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

[AB de Royse777]

It is also publicly known that I already refunded the 210€!

It is publicly known that you did not refund any money yet to h4ns

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

You are the reason of whatever it is going with you and your reputation here. There are no one to blame for this. So you still need to refund the money to h4ns to make yourself clean and to close that scam accusations against you.

You still have not answered my straight forward question.
Do you have the money?

[game-protect]

It is also publicly known that I already refunded the 210€!

It is publicly known that you did not refund any money yet to h4ns

Only because your brain is handicapped does not mean it is publicly known!

Everyone with eyes and a functioning brain in its head is able to see h4ns's public defamation campaign towards Game Protect!

Publicly claims that I scammed him July 2019, but wanted my further assistance until September 3rd!

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

Whether or not your brain is able to understand it does not bear any relevance!

[AB de Royse777]

Only because your brain is handicapped does not mean it is publicly known!

Mine is completely functional however there is a big doubt about your one though.

Everyone with eyes and a functioning brain in its head is able to see h4ns's public defamation campaign towards Game Protect!

Publicly claims that I scammed him July 2019, but wanted my further assistance until September 3rd!

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

Stop playing your broken tap recorder again, you are not saying anything new at all.

Whether or not your brain is able to understand it does not bear any relevance!

It is relevant because my brain understand and function as a normal human being.

Now my question again, which you are ignoring for a while even though it was bold at once if I am not wrong.

Do You Have The Money?

[game-protect]

Whether or not your brain is able to understand it does not bear any relevance!

It is relevant because my brain understand and function as a normal human being.

Great! So your brain should not have any problem to answer the following questions:

What was the deal?

When was the concern raised?

[actmyname]

Great! So your brain should not have any problem to answer the following questions:

What was the deal?

When was the concern raised?

Especially given that it was a deal between you two, Royse777 should not have to answer these questions.The €20 000, if even legitimate, is separate from the €210.

Pay h4ns the €210, then sort out the problem.

[AB de Royse777]

What was the deal?

When was the concern raised?

I already answered those questions. Do you even read? Possibly you are so busy to find your next fish that you are having a short term memory lose. Anyway, I am gonna make it bold font now.

When was the concern raised?
What was the deal?

None does not matter anymore. It's publicly known that you need to repay the money to h4ns.

Now my question still remains (may be I will change he font color so that it catch your eyes):
Do you have the money?

[game-protect]

When was the concern raised?

None does not matter anymore.

"None does not matter anymore" is not a time specification!

What was the deal?

None does not matter anymore.

"None does not matter anymore" is not a description of the deal!

[actmyname]

The €20 000, if even legitimate, is separate from the €210.

Pay h4ns the €210, then sort out the problem.

In the real world, demands are subtracted from each other.

If you want to make it based on arbitrary claims, then sure. Perhaps h4ns suffered consequential damages due to the lack of the €210?

If you're going to go circular with the payments, why not just pay your plumber for your groceries? If you can graph it, you can connect it.

[game-protect]

The €20 000, if even legitimate, is separate from the €210.

Pay h4ns the €210, then sort out the problem.

In the real world, demands are subtracted from each other.

If you want to make it based on arbitrary claims, then sure. Perhaps h4ns suffered consequential damages due to the lack of the €210?

In the real world, a compensation demand for damages caused by a public defamation campaign is not an arbitrary claim!

If you're going to go circular with the payments, why not just pay your plumber for your groceries? If you can graph it, you can connect it.

A direct settlement of claims is not circular!

If I do not have any claim against a supermarket (and until today I had not), then I logically can not reduce their claim for groceries from my non-existing claim!

Do you live in a supervised dorm?

Because almost all of your statements are not anyhow connected to the reality!

[suchmoon]

If I do not have any claim against a supermarket (and until today I had not), then I logically can not reduce their claim for groceries from my non-existing claim!

It's funny how you pretend to be so smart or so dumb depending on how it suits you. I hope actmyname doesn't mind if I crayon this for you.

Plumber unclogged a toilet in the supermarket therefore he has a claim against the supermarket. You pay the plumber and you get the groceries. I wonder why it doesn't work like that in the real world - sounds like a fantastic system based on your last few hundred posts.

[AB de Royse777]

~snipped all nonsense from game-protect~

Now still my original question stands -
Do you have the money?

[game-protect]

Do you have the money?

Do you have the brain?

[AB de Royse777]

Do you have the brain?

Finally you spotted the question but still have not answered it though. Talking about brain - it's not something you will figure however I have it and it's functioning better than you.

Now since you spotted the question let's find the answer now.
Do you have the money?

[game-protect]

Do you have the brain?

Finally you spotted the question but still have not answered it though.

You also did not answer my questions and my questions were asked prior to your senseless question!

Do not expect from others what you yourself are not willing to do!

[AB de Royse777]

You also did not answer my questions and my questions were asked prior to your senseless question!

Do not expect from others what you yourself are not willing to do!

Do you see your problem?
I have answered whatever questions you asked. I do not have any need to skip.
Feel free to quote the question I did not answer.

But you are not going anywhere without answering my question:
Do you have the money?

By the way, all this conversation at least give this impression that may be you do not have the money hence you are not sure if you should admit it. The easiest job for you is just not to answer it. Possibly I am right.

[suchmoon]

The system based on my last few hundred posts is between two parties, whereas the system actmyname suggested is between three parties!

From a juridical point of view there is a huge difference between two and three parties involved!

There is a much "huger" difference between a written agreement to refund 210 euro and a made-up defamation claim, for which you apparently haven't even found a lawyer willing to represent you.

[game-protect]

The system based on my last few hundred posts is between two parties, whereas the system actmyname suggested is between three parties!

From a juridical point of view there is a huge difference between two and three parties involved!

There is a much "huger" difference between a written agreement to refund 210 euro and a made-up defamation claim, for which you apparently haven't even found a lawyer willing to represent you.

In the real world, a written agreement to refund 210€ is not a scam!

I am still in the process of collecting proof of the damage caused.

[suchmoon]

In the real world, a written agreement to refund 210€ is not a scam!

It's a scam to promise a refund and to not issue said refund.

I am still in the process of collecting proof of the damage caused.

Then stop demanding 20k euro until you have proof. Refund the 210 euro instead. If you're concerned about your reputation then refunding 210 euro is the best solution.

[AB de Royse777]

Game-protect,
So, you are admitting that you have no money to do the refund?

may be you do not have the money

[game-protect]

I am still in the process of collecting proof of the damage caused.

Then stop demanding 20k euro until you have proof. Refund the 210 euro instead. If you're concerned about your reputation then refunding 210 euro is the best solution.

The higher the damage is caused by h4ns's defamation campaign on bitcointalk.org, the higher will be the compensation demand!

This time extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts work into my hands!

[efialtis]

Flag supported - the only mentally ill and brain dead person here is you, game-protect. Now thats the downside of our beloved internet, any pathetic s***** can act like he s such a cool dude, pretend to be smart, flaming others and continue doing so each and every day. I would really be curious how you d react in real life - if you know what that is, I am not sure you have one. 

[game-protect]

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You read this scam accusation Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails and it convinced you that I scammed h4ns for 210€ July 2019?

[actmyname]

When did the scam happen, July or September 3rd?

A scam would happen the moment you breach the terms of agreement.

A person may not react immediately and give you the benefit of the doubt but if you do not decide to properly follow through with your commitments and if you are enacting arbitrary claims in order to stifle communication and justify the act, then you are little more than a scammer.

[game-protect]

When did the scam happen, July or September 3rd?

A scam would happen the moment you breach the terms of agreement.

A person may not react immediately and give you the benefit of the doubt but if you do not decide to properly follow through with your commitments and if you are enacting arbitrary claims in order to stifle communication and justify the act, then you are little more than a scammer.

You better continue spamming your signature instead of giving false and misleading legal advise!

Fraud

"In law, fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right. Fraud can violate civil law (i.e., a fraud victim may sue the fraud perpetrator to avoid the fraud or recover monetary compensation), a criminal law (i.e., a fraud perpetrator may be prosecuted and imprisoned by governmental authorities), or it may cause no loss of money, property or legal right but still be an element of another civil or criminal wrong."

Without intention no fraud!

[actmyname]

Great! So your brain should not have any problem to answer the following questions:

What was the deal?

When was the concern raised?

Especially given that it was a deal between you two, Royse777 should not have to answer these questions.

What was the deal?

Exactly: what was the deal? Can you answer that?

Every time you repeat asking a question of which you should know the answer, the probability of mental incontinence increases.

[game-protect]

Great! So your brain should not have any problem to answer the following questions:

What was the deal?

When was the concern raised?

Especially given that it was a deal between you two, Royse777 should not have to answer these questions.

What was the deal?

Exactly: what was the deal? Can you answer that?

Every time you repeat asking a question of which you should know the answer, the probability of mental incontinence increases.

You support this scam accusation Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails, so you need to know what the deal was, right?

Or do you support the scam accusation without knowing what happened?

That would be a crimninal offense in many jurisdictions!

[actmyname]

Exactly: what was the deal? Can you answer that?

Every time you repeat asking a question of which you should know the answer, the probability of mental incontinence increases.

You support this scam accusation, so you need to know what the deal was. right?

Or do you suport the scam accusation without knowing what happened?

That would be a crimninal offense in many jurisdictions!

Basically, instead of asking questions, you redirect the question to the other party.

Hence:

You oppose this scam accusation, so you need to know what the deal was. right?

Or are you just a scammer?

That would be a crimninal [sic] offense in many jurisdictions!

[game-protect]

You oppose this scam accusation, so you need to know what the deal was. right?

h4ns himself opposes his scam accusation! Though requires a functioning brain to realise it!

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

So if the suspicion substantiated September 3rd, a scam logically did not happen July 2019!

Yet, you support that a scam happened July 2019!

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

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[actmyname]

So if the suspicion substantiated September 3rd, a scam logically did not happen July 2019!

Yes, you support that a scam happened July 2019!

A scam does not occur at the same time that someone realizes it is a scam. It was a scam from the moment the scammer intended to scam.So what are you trying to derive from this? "I didn't scam him on July, I scammed him on September"?

[game-protect]

It was a scam from the moment the scammer intended to scam.

Absolute nonsense! A person can intent to scam, but finally do not scam.

You do not get sentenced for murder if you intended to kill someone, but never tried to do it!

Therefore a scam happens when the scam happened!

Asking two times if someone can lend BTC worth 10€ is not a scam in the real world!

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

[actmyname]

Absolute nonsense! A person can intent to scam, but finally do not scam.

Therefore a scam happens when the scam happened!

Asking two times if someone can lend BTC worth 10€ is not a scam in the real world!

You're right... asking for 10€ isn't a scam, if you're going to return the money. Refusing to pay back 210€ after the date you were supposed to is a scam.

[game-protect]

Absolute nonsense! A person can intent to scam, but finally do not scam.

Therefore a scam happens when the scam happened!

Asking two times if someone can lend BTC worth 10€ is not a scam in the real world!

You're right... asking for 10€ isn't a scam, if you're going to return the money. Refusing to pay back 210€ after the date you were supposed to is a scam.

Did you just say that a scam happened September 3rd when h4ns asked to get the 210€ back?

(September 3rd) I immediately asked him to refund my money. But his only reaction was that he closed the tickets of my pending cases which generated an automatic email notification.

[game-protect]

Basically, instead of asking questions, you redirect the question to the other party.

I ask all those who support a July 2019 scam, because they should know?

[xtraelv]

Basically, instead of asking questions, you redirect the question to the other party.

I ask all those who support a July 2019 scam, because they should know?

You oppose this scam accusation, so you need to know what the deal was. right?

h4ns himself opposes his scam accusation! Though requires a functioning brain to realise it!

Instead of making stupid statements and asking stupid questions put the 5 btc in an escrow account and let someone trustworthy that is acceptable to both sides decide if you scammed.  At the moment you are just making pointless noise. Effectively - Put up or shut up.

[game-protect]

Basically, instead of asking questions, you redirect the question to the other party.

I ask all those who support a July 2019 scam, because they should know?

Instead of making stupid statements and asking stupid questions put the 5 btc in an escrow account and let someone trustworthy that is acceptable to both sides decide if you scammed.  At the moment you are just making pointless noise. Effectively - Put up or shut up.

Trustworthy by extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts?

Who is this "trustworthy" person?

Investigative and legal expert such a moon who verified that I scammed h4ns April 2019?

[xtraelv]

Basically, instead of asking questions, you redirect the question to the other party.

I ask all those who support a July 2019 scam, because they should know?

Instead of making stupid statements and asking stupid questions put the 5 btc in an escrow account and let someone trustworthy that is acceptable to both sides decide if you scammed.  At the moment you are just making pointless noise. Effectively - Put up or shut up.

Trustworthy by extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts?

Who is this "trustworthy" person?

Investigative and legal expert such a moon who verified that I scammed h4ns April 2019?

If there is absolutely no one you trust and everyone is brain dead then why do you bother posting here ?

[game-protect]

If there is absolutely no one you trust and everyone is brain dead then why do you bother posting here ?

I try to find out what the 75 extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts who support the scam accusation know?

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

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In the real world, if you publicly support a scam accusation you need to know what happened!

[xtraelv]

In the real world, if you publicly support a scam accusation you need to know what happened!

It is referenced in the scam flag

What happened::
Hi,

I want to share my experience with game-protect.com

To start with, I was aware about the negative comments and accusations in this forum but as there was no one who had hard proof that this site/user was a scam (at least as far as I know) I decided to give him a chance.
I do a lot of betting not only at Asian books but also at soft books. Some of them are offshore-licensed in Curacao (BTW I'm the user lonnie55 from that screenshot TwitchySeal posted in #1006). Curacao is a place where from my experience at least 20-25% of the books are scam operations. To date, I was registered at more than 300 books, so occasionally I caught a book that didn't pay out but confiscated my funds. As there is no chance to achieve anything by reaching out to the licensors I asked Game Protect if he can do anything. I told him right from the beginning that I was not willing to spend any money in advance for his services which he was fine with. He offered me a no cure no pay-basis for most of my cases. The condition was that the amount in dispute was high enough (around 5 figures).

It happens back in July 2018 when GP forwarded my first ever case to a lawyer in Curacao. The lawyer from Curacao directly replied to me. I checked if the lawyer exists in reality and found proof that he does. That gave me a little bit of confidence.

Over the time GP and I have sent each other more than 100 emails concerning several issues and scam cases of Curacao based books. He offered me a 65:35 no cure no pay service on almost every case. The fact that he never asked for any money and that I was given the contact details of a real-existing lawyer gave me hope that his service might be legit.

It turned out I was wrong. In April 2019, for the very first time he asked for money. He said he could not apply a no cure no pay model to this specific case since the amount in dispute was too low for that. He asked for 5% of the amount in dispute which was €210. I told him that he knows my position and that I won't spend any money on this. He then said that he can't handle the case without charging a fee. Eventually I thought why not give him a chance after all. He never asked for any money in a time frame of almost a year. Curacao based books scammed me of a 6 digit amount in the past 8 years. €210 is just a drop in the ocean. So I thought f*ck it, let's give him a chance and I sent him the money

This is what he promised:




He also said he will publish an article about that case. This article has yet to appear.




So June 30 passed and he didn't give me any update on my case nor did he refund the money. I've sent him a BTC address and a request to refund the money. He replied: "I handled many claims in the past months (including your other claims) and forgot about this one. However, there are some things in process and it makes sence (sic) to wait longer." I asked him "what kind of process?" and he answered "There are several things going on since the establishment of the foundation. A court case in regard to 1668/JAZ (same license like betmaster.com) was lodged 2 weeks ago. A court case with 365/JAZ claims (including your dobrobet and suprabets claims) will be lodged soon. A 65,000€ claim was successfully settled 2 weeks ago. Casino said duplicate account and canceled account balance and said final decision by management. After involvement of our lawyer they changed to "was an software error! LOL Lawyer is in conversation with different parties."

Of course at this point at the latest his behavior should have raised red flags. Nevertheless I still had the glimpse of a hope he could reach anything in only one of the many cases I had submitted to him, the foundation (of which I'm not sure it really exists as he never handed me out the contact details) or the lawyer.

However, as time passed with no updates from either the foundation or the lawyer and nothing beyond those "some things are in process"-statements from GP I started to consider that all this was possibly a show and the scam accusations were right. My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time. He said he had no money in his BTC wallet but needed €10 for a VPN. So this was actually the point where I lost my hope that he wasn't a swindler. I tried to test him and asked him i.a. for a phone number of the foundation but he ignored my request. I immediately asked him to refund my money. But his only reaction was that he closed the tickets of my pending cases which generated an automatic email notification. He's not made any further comment on this. Four days later I've sent him a reminder. Yesterday I've sent him another email: "The fact that you don't answer means that you won't refund the money, right? I just want to remind you of your own words (as mentioned in your email sent on April 30, 2019 17:15 CET): "My activity either will lead to get your money from Bestmaster or you will get the 210EUR back 30 June 2019. I attached screenshot of 310 support tickets and I can assure you that we handle claims totalling $ millions and the chance that I will ruin the reputation of Game Protect for 210EUR is zero point zero." I don't blame you. I just want to learn if the accusations in the BCT forum were right, so that I can close the whole case."

But he didn't reply. Usually he replies with minutes or hours. Due to the fact he is actively posting in this forum right now whilst a) ignoring all of my emails for almost 7 days and b) not refunding my money either, I must assume that he is a scammer.

tl;dr
- I sent GP €210 for covering a processing fee which he promised to refund on June 30 in the event he isn’t able to recover my funds
- he didn’t return the money to date
- he stopped replying to my emails for almost a week



Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg52407790#msg52407790

Amount Scammed:
0.0448 BTC or €210 at that time

Payment Method:
Bitcoin

Proof of Payment:
https://www.blockchain.com/de/btc/address/1Jomvg8ajgWb15tnxtoepGLkKPCj7ska1m

PM/Chat Logs:
see above

Additional Notes:
I advise you to not deal with this user.

[game-protect]

You show screenshots of email conversation dating 30.04.2019, what happened afterwards?

[suchmoon]

You show screenshots of email conversation dating 30.04.2019, what happened afterwards?

You didn't get money for h4ns from Betmaster and you didn't refund 210 euro, i.e. you scammed h4ns. And yes, we know all that bullshit about a new agreement and defamation and all that nonsense that you cooked up to justify your scam. No one cares about your fantasies.

[AB de Royse777]

It seems a non stop cycling LOL
Whatever you will ask to game-protect he will answer you with a question as if he really does not know the answer. I am still waiting for the answer of the question which I asked him and seems like he does not want to answer even which his question anymore LOL

Anyway, let's start again,
Do you have the money?

[game-protect]

You show screenshots of email conversation dating 30.04.2019, what happened afterwards?

You didn't get money for h4ns from Betmaster and you didn't refund 210 euro, i.e. you scammed h4ns.

September 3rd h4ns asked to get the 210€ back and I refunded it with reducing it from the current 20,000€ compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790

And yes, we know all that bullshit about a new agreement and defamation and all that nonsense that you cooked up to justify your scam.

If you all know that there was a new agreement, why do you support a non-existing July 2019 scam?

No one cares about your fantasies.

h4ns will care! He breached criminal laws and is liable for the damage caused!

The interesting point is when separate fantasy dream world nonsense shit meets the reality!

[mu_enrico]

I try to find out what the 75 extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts who support the scam accusation know?

I know that your username (and your business) itself is a scam.
You keep talking about real world. May I know:
- Your legal entity;
- your license/permit for "protection service" business;
- Your office address; and
- Your portfolio, list of your court cases.

[AB de Royse777]

Anyway, let's start again,
Do you have the money?

Still no answer LOL
Knock knock game-protect! Hello!!

[actmyname]

September 3rd h4ns asked to get the 210€ back and I refunded it with reducing it from the current 20,000€ compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790

And yes, we know all that bullshit about a new agreement and defamation and all that nonsense that you cooked up to justify your scam.

If you all know that there was a new agreement, why do you support a non-existing July 2019 scam?

No one cares about your fantasies.

h4ns will care! He breached criminal laws and is liable for the damage caused!

The interesting point is when separate fantasy dream world nonsense shit meets the reality!

Have you started any legal work on this 20 000€ case? Surely, if it's that much money to you, it must be worth pursuing.

Maybe I want to join this case! Perhaps h4ns has defamed me as well... what are the details of this case?

You shouldn't be refunding the 210€ to yourself before a decision has been made, after all... so what's the court date?

[game-protect]

No one cares about your fantasies.

h4ns will care! He breached criminal laws and is liable for the damage caused!

The interesting point is when separate fantasy dream world nonsense shit meets the reality!

Have you started any legal work on this 20 000€ case?

As you can see, since weeks I try to figure out how the supporters understood his scam accusation, when it happened, etc.?

You investigated that a scam happened September 3rd, but the scam accusation says July 2019

That is the part I am not able to understand

[actmyname]

Have you started any legal work on this 20 000€ case?

As you can see, since weeks I try to figure out how the supporters understood his scam accusation, when it happened, etc.?

You investigated that a scam happened September 3rd, but the scam accusation says July 2019

That is the part I am not able to understand

Do you know what part I am not able to understand?

The part where you respond to a question with something completely irrelevant. Have you started any legal work on this 20 000€ case?

[game-protect]

Have you started any legal work on this 20 000€ case?

As you can see, since weeks I try to figure out how the supporters understood his scam accusation, when it happened, etc.?

You investigated that a scam happened September 3rd, but the scam accusation says July 2019

That is the part I am not able to understand

Do you know what part I am not able to understand?

The part where you respond to a question with something completely irrelevant. Have you started any legal work on this 20 000€ case?

Trying to figure out how the supporters understood his scam accusation, when it happened, etc. is part of the legal work!

The more deceitful he worded his public defamation, the higher will be the punishment!

Only because you are a juridical clueless does not mean I did not answer your question!

[suchmoon]

That is the part I am not able to understand

Why are you demanding 20k for something you can't understand? Refund 210 euro as you promised and stop fucking around.

[xtraelv]

You show screenshots of email conversation dating 30.04.2019, what happened afterwards?

You didn't get money for h4ns from Betmaster and you didn't refund 210 euro, i.e. you scammed h4ns.

September 3rd h4ns asked to get the 210€ back and I refunded it with reducing it from the current 20,000€ compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790

Archived

See that is where it gets interesting. In some jurisdictions you cannot offset one debt against another - it is illegal unless done with prior written permission.

I see this is an effective admission that:

1) You admit you owe 210€ to h4ns

2) According to your own words paid that 210€ to yourself.

As for all the "defamation" nonsense. You called around 75 people "mentally ill" and "child abusers" so your I think you will have a hard time pursuing defamation in ANY jurisdiction without facing some severe repercussions. i.e. a massive counterclaim.

[game-protect]

As you can see, since weeks I try to figure out how the supporters understood his scam accusation, when it happened, etc.?

You investigated that a scam happened September 3rd, but the scam accusation says July 2019

That is the part I am not able to understand

Why are you demanding 20k for something you can't understand?

I can not understand what?

Refund 210 euro as you promised and stop fucking around.

I refunded the 210€ September 3rd with reducing it from the compensation demand for damage caused by his defamation campaign.

h4ns to GP 20,000 Euro current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

[suchmoon]

I can not understand what?

I'm glad you asked. Here's what you need to understand: you must refund 210 euro to h4ns.

[game-protect]

I'm glad you asked. Here's what you need to understand: you must refund 210 euro to h4ns.

I understood and refundend 210€ September 3rd with reducing it from the compensation h4ns has to pay for the damage caused by his defamation campaign:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€



"Game-Protect is probably a scam, read the reviews in the Bitcointalk forum. He is the least trusted user in this forum"

[suchmoon]

I'm glad you asked. Here's what you need to understand: you must refund 210 euro to h4ns.

I understood and refundend 210€ September 3rd

You didn't.

with reducing it from the compensation h4ns has to pay for the damage caused by his defamation campaign:

There was no defamation campaign. As a very smart person whom you trust and respect very much once said:

Where is the judgement

[game-protect]

There was no defamation campaign. As a very smart person whom you trust and respect very much once said:

Where is the judgement

Where is the judgement that Game Protect is a scam?

Is h4ns the judge?

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

Real world judges will laugh their asses off if a brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam because I asked it the second time if it can lend me BTC worth 10€!!!

[suchmoon]

Where is the judgement that Game Protect is a scam?

Is h4ns the judge?

If you're demanding a judgement about you being a scammer then please present the judgement of h4ns owing you 20k and we'll do the subtraction math that you love so much.

Otherwise - h4ns has a contract with you, according to which you owe him 210 euro and you don't have any contract regarding 20k.

I can't wait to see what kind of nonsense you'll reply with.

[game-protect]

Where is the judgement that Game Protect is a scam?

Is h4ns the judge?

If you're demanding a judgement about you being a scammer then please present the judgement of h4ns owing you 20k and we'll do the subtraction math that you love so much.

According to you, a claim is not valid without a judgement!

h4ns does not have a judgement that I have to give him 210€ and therefore you false and misleading support a juridically not valid scam accusation!

Otherwise - h4ns has a contract with you, according to which you owe him 210 euro and you don't have any contract regarding 20k.

Please show the contract where it says that I owe 210€ to h4ns?

[suchmoon]

According to you, a claim is not valid without a judgement!

You're getting me confused with yourself. I'm flattered but you're the one yapping about your imaginary lawyers and judgements. For me the e-mail (posted many many times across multiple threads) between you and h4ns and your admission that you haven't paid him back is enough to see that you're a scammer.

[game-protect]

According to you, a claim is not valid without a judgement!

For me the e-mail (posted many many times across multiple threads) between you and h4ns and your admission that you haven't paid him back is enough to see that you're a scammer.

Thank you for confirming that the email from 30.04.2019 h4ns published misleaded you to believe that I scammed him July 2019!  

[suchmoon]

According to you, a claim is not valid without a judgement!

For me the e-mail (posted many many times across multiple threads) between you and h4ns and your admission that you haven't paid him back is enough to see that you're a scammer.

Thank you for confirming that the email from 30.04.2019 h4ns published misleaded you to believe that I scammed him July 2019!  

Try reading the sentence to the end. YOUR admission that you haven't repaid him, combined with YOUR promise to repay (in the e-mail) is what makes it clear that you're a scammer. Nothing is "misleaded" here. You haven't denied that you made that promise and you haven't shown a refund. 2+2 = scam.

[game-protect]

According to you, a claim is not valid without a judgement!

For me the e-mail (posted many many times across multiple threads) between you and h4ns and your admission that you haven't paid him back is enough to see that you're a scammer.

Thank you for confirming that the email from 30.04.2019 h4ns published misleaded you to believe that I scammed him July 2019!  

Try reading the sentence to the end. YOUR admission that you haven't repaid him, combined with YOUR promise to repay (in the e-mail) is what makes it clear that you're a scammer. Nothing is "misleaded" here. You haven't denied that you made that promise and you haven't shown a refund. 2+2 = scam.

YOUR reference to the email sent 30.04.2019 as proof that I scammed h4ns July 2019 while h4ns himself informs that his suspicion was substantiated September 3rd after I asked him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€ obviously confirms that the scam accusation fully misleaded YOU to believe that I scammed h4ns July 2019!

[actmyname]

If the 'defamation campaign' happened before you "refunded" h4ns by reducing it from the 20 000€ total, then it's not a defamation campaign since you did not repay them.
If the 'defamation campaign' happened after you "refunded" h4ns by reducing it from the 20 000€ total, then the 20 000€ appeared out of thin air since you did not repay them.

Conclusion: you did not repay h4ns.
Corollary: you are a scammer.

[game-protect]

If the 'defamation campaign' happened before you "refunded" h4ns by reducing it from the 20 000€ total, then it's not a defamation campaign since you did not repay them.
If the 'defamation campaign' happened after you "refunded" h4ns by reducing it from the 20 000€ total, then the 20 000€ appeared out of thin air since you did not repay them.

You are obviously extremely mentally ill and or brain dead!

h4ns started a defamation campaign towards Game Protect September 3rd, after his brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, after I asked him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€.

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

His illegal defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused a compensation demand towards h4ns September 3rd!

[actmyname]

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

His illegal defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused a compensation demand towards h4ns September 3rd!

Since when is being suspicious of someone the same thing as defamation?

[game-protect]

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

His illegal defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused a compensation demand towards h4ns September 3rd!

Since when is being suspicious of someone the same thing as defamation?

Since never!

A suspicion is a suspicion and publicly false and misleading claiming that Game Protect is a scam / show is the criminal offense of defamation!

[actmyname]

Not breaking apart the quote pyramid because context is important here.

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

His illegal defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused a compensation demand towards h4ns September 3rd!

Since when is being suspicious of someone the same thing as defamation?

Since never!

A suspicion is a suspicion and publicly false and misleading claiming that Game Protect is a scam / show is the criminal offense of defamation!

So exactly: h4ns was suspicious on September 3rd. Did his 'defamation campaign' start when he became suspicious? It seems strange because the thread on Bitcointalk was only started on the 9th, so how could you refund his 210€ into the defamation total which did not exist at the time?


If you reduced the 20 000€ total BEFORE his 'defamation campaign' started, then the 20 000€ is based on thin air and unjustified.
If you reduced the 20 000€ total AFTER his 'defamation campaign' started, then you need to show where h4ns is lying for it to be defamation in the first place. You both agree that you were supposed to refund him 210€ so where is the lie?

[game-protect]

Not breaking apart the quote pyramid because context is important here.

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

His illegal defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused a compensation demand towards h4ns September 3rd!

Since when is being suspicious of someone the same thing as defamation?

Since never!

A suspicion is a suspicion and publicly false and misleading claiming that Game Protect is a scam / show is the criminal offense of defamation!

So exactly: h4ns was suspicious on September 3rd. Did his 'defamation campaign' start when he became suspicious? It seems strange because the thread on Bitcointalk was only started on the 9th, so how could you refund his 210€ into the defamation total which did not exist at the time?

No, until September 3rd h4ns was suspicious that Game Protect is a scam.

This suspicion substantiated September 3rd after I asked him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€.

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

After his suspicion was substantiated September 3rd, he immediately asked to get the 210€ back and I agreed and confirmed with immediately closing his pending support tickets.

Agreeing and confirming to give the 210€ back is not a scam in the real world!

September 3rd h4ns also started his defamation campaign on sportsbookreview.com



"Game-Protect is probably a scam, read the reviews in the Bitcointalk forum. He is the least trusted user in this forum"

You both agree that you were supposed to refund him 210€ so where is the lie?

One lie is that he claims I violated a written contract resulting in damages July 2019!

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

[actmyname]

This suspicion substantiated September 3rd after I asked him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€.

Quoting for reference.

After his suspicion was substantiated September 3rd, he immediately asked to get the 210€ back and I agreed and confirmed with immediately closing his pending support tickets. Agreeing and confirming to give the 210€ back is not a scam in the real world!

Sure... but weren't you supposed to give the money back much, much earlier?

September 3rd h4ns also started his defamation campaign on sportsbookreview.com

Defamation would be based on falsities, correct?

Let's start in reverse:

>He is the least trusted user in this forum.
True.
>Game-Protect is probably a scam, read the reviews in the Bitcointalk forum.
Opinion, substantiated with the multiple-month delay towards a previous financial agreement as well as alternative feedback from other users.
>The email address of gamestrict is similar to the one that allegedly belongs to the foundation that collects the money (same provider)
Opinion.
>It could be a sister-site of game-protect.com
Opinion, substantiated with the commonality in the name and game.

Where are the lies?

[game-protect]

After his suspicion was substantiated September 3rd, he immediately asked to get the 210€ back and I agreed and confirmed with immediately closing his pending support tickets. Agreeing and confirming to give the 210€ back is not a scam in the real world!

Sure... but weren't you supposed to give the money back much, much earlier?

If I was supposed to give the 210€ back much much earlier and failed, his suspicion would have been substantiated much much earlier, right?

And his suspicion would not have been substantiated only September 3rd, right?

And his suspicion would have been substantiated based on not giving him the 210€ back and not based on asking him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€, right?

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

[actmyname]

If I was supposed to give the 210€ back much much earlier, his suspicion would have been substantiated much much earlier, right?

Maybe, but h4ns could easily have given you the benefit of the doubt. And you were supposed to give it back earlier: you had created an agreement for that very purpose.

And not September 3rd and not based on asking him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€, but based on not giving him the 210€ back, right?

I can't understand this fragmented sentence with no clear context. Rewrite it.

[game-protect]

If I was supposed to give the 210€ back much much earlier and failed, his suspicion would have been substantiated much much earlier, right?

Maybe, but h4ns could easily have given you the benefit of the doubt.

Someone who already has the suspicion that Game Protect is a scam / show (even though only based on extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit posted on bitcointalk.org and not based on own experience) does not give the benefit of doubt when the 210€ are due and not delivered!

The behavior of h4ns clearly confirms my assessment!

September 3rd he asked to get the 210€ back and the same day he felt the necessity to inform the public that Game Protect is almost certainly a scam.

Few days later September 9th he felt the necessity to open a public scam accusation on bitcointalk.org

So if the 210€ were much much earlier due, h4ns almost certainly would have informed the public much much earlier, right?

[actmyname]

If I was supposed to give the 210€ back much much earlier and failed, his suspicion would have been substantiated much much earlier, right?

Maybe, but h4ns could easily have given you the benefit of the doubt.

Someone who already has the suspicion that Game Protect is a scam / show (even though only based on extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit posted on bitcointalk.org and not based on own experience) does not give the benefit of doubt when the 210€ are due and not delivered!

So the 'defamation campaign' and opinion that you were a scammer was justified: that's what you're saying.

[game-protect]

If I was supposed to give the 210€ back much much earlier and failed, his suspicion would have been substantiated much much earlier, right?

Maybe, but h4ns could easily have given you the benefit of the doubt.

Someone who already has the suspicion that Game Protect is a scam / show (even though only based on extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit posted on bitcointalk.org and not based on own experience) does not give the benefit of doubt when the 210€ are due and not delivered!

So the 'defamation campaign' and opinion that you were a scammer was justified: that's what you're saying.

I am not a psychiatrist and do not know how extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains function, but I never said that his false and misleading defamation campaign is justified!

If your brain read this, then you doubtless suffer a serious mental disorder!

[actmyname]

I am not a psychiatrist and do not know how extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains function, but I never said that his false and misleading defamation campaign is justified!

So where's the lie?

If your brain read this, then you doubtless suffer a serious mental disorder!

I thought you weren't a psychiatrist and don't know how brains function.

[game-protect]

I am not a psychiatrist and do not know how extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains function, but I never said that his false and misleading defamation campaign is justified!

So where's the lie?

I already posted it, but here we go again:

One lie is that he claims I violated a written contract resulting in damages July 2019!

If your brain read this, then you doubtless suffer a serious mental disorder!

I thought you weren't a psychiatrist and don't know how brains function.

Yes, I do not know how extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains neurologically function, but it is easy for me to detect such brains based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit they post.

You can be the best car driver without knowing how a car technically runs!

Continuously stating things without any connection to the real world highly indicates a serious mental disorder!

[actmyname]

Yes, I do not know how extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains neurologically function, but it is easy for me to detect such brains based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit they post.

You would first need to understand what is considered "extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit", whatever that is. How do you know what mentally ill brains post?

You can be the best car driver without knowing how a car technically runs!

Sure but you need to know how to drive. If your analogy compares a car to a driver, then in this case it would be a brain to a... online gaming consumer protection service.

You know...

Continuously stating things without any connection to the real world highly indicates a serious mental disorder!

[game-protect]

Yes, I do not know how extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains neurologically function, but it is easy for me to detect such brains based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit they post.

You would first need to understand what is considered "extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit", whatever that is. How do you know what mentally ill brains post?

Continuous statements without any connection to the real / legal world highly indicate a serious mentall disorder or reading things that were never posted and so on.

You can be the best car driver without knowing how a car technically runs!

Sure but you need to know how to drive. If your analogy compares a car to a driver, then in this case it would be a brain to a... online gaming consumer protection service.

You know...

Continuously stating things without any connection to the real world highly indicates a serious mental disorder!

Online consumer protection service daily interacts with extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains and it is very easy for me to discover such brains.

[actmyname]

Online consumer protection service daily interacts with extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains and it is very easy for me to discover such brains.

I doubt many people are scrambling to your door to send you their psychoanalyses of medical records. As such, it is impossible to determine the mental illness or lack thereof for a certain individual without having the required qualifications, of which you have already stated you have none.

[game-protect]

Online consumer protection service daily interacts with extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains and it is very easy for me to discover such brains.

I doubt many people are scrambling to your door to send you their psychoanalyses of medical records.

Criminals also do not scramble to my door and nevertheless I discover them!

As such, it is impossible to determine the mental illness or lack thereof for a certain individual without having the required qualifications, of which you have already stated you have none.

You can detect a serious mental disorder solely based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit such a brain posts!

Please quote where I have stated that I do not have the required qualifications to discover extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains?

[actmyname]

As such, it is impossible to determine the mental illness or lack thereof for a certain individual without having the required qualifications, of which you have already stated you have none.

You can detect a serious mental disorder solely based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit such a brain posts!

Is this true? Which qualified psychiatrist told you so?

Please quote where I have stated that I do not have the required qualifications to discover extremely mentally and or brain dead brains?

To determine the difference between an 'extremely mentally and or brain dead' brain and any other brain, you would need to know how to identify a dichotomy between brains with certainty.

Otherwise, that would be a lie! And perhaps a defamation suit will be aimed towards your direction?

[game-protect]

As such, it is impossible to determine the mental illness or lack thereof for a certain individual without having the required qualifications, of which you have already stated you have none.

You can detect a serious mental disorder solely based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit such a brain posts!

Is this true?

Yes.

Please quote where I have stated that I do not have the required qualifications to discover extremely mentally and or brain dead brains?

To determine the difference between an 'extremely mentally and or brain dead' brain and any other brain, you would need to know how to identify a dichotomy between brains with certainty.

I already informed that the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit posted is sufficient to discover it!

Legal experts usually have studied law at an university and it is very unlikely that they will thereafter spam its signature for cents on brain wash forums!

However, almost every extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account making statements about Game Protect claims to know how legal things in the real world work!

It is so laughable and obvious!

[xtraelv]

Please quote where I have stated that I do not have the required qualifications to discover extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains?

Considering that you are providing a "professional service" and was challenged in regards to your qualifications this can be considered as a claim that you have "professional qualifications" in detecting extreme mentally illness and/or brain dead brains (zombies ?)

Is that your claim ?

Because scammers are usually vague about their qualifications or claim to have fraudulent qualifications or qualifications they do not have.

Perhaps you would like to clarify this by stating your qualifications rather than being deliberately vague.

[game-protect]

Please quote where I have stated that I do not have the required qualifications to discover extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains?

Considering that you are providing a "professional service" and was challenged in regards to your qualifications this can be considered as a claim that you have "professional qualifications" in detecting extreme mentally illness and/or brain dead brains (zombies ?)

Mentally brain dead, not physically!

I logically can only assess the mental estate of these accounts based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit they post and not the physical estate.

[xtraelv]

Please quote where I have stated that I do not have the required qualifications to discover extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains?

Considering that you are providing a "professional service" and was challenged in regards to your qualifications this can be considered as a claim that you have "professional qualifications" in detecting extreme mentally illness and/or brain dead brains (zombies ?)

Mentally brain dead, not physically!

I logically can only assess the mental estate of these accounts based on the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit they post and not the physical estate.

You didn't answer the question.

Do you have such a qualification ?

[actmyname]

If we are playing by GP rules then we shall play by GP rules:

I have the ability to assess the mental state of accounts which are "irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return".
I don't have the qualifications to psychoanalyze anyone but because of my time on the forum, I can do the above.
All "irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return" users cannot be trusted and their opinions are null.

I now retroactively apply this tag of "irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return" to game-protect, nullifying all of his opinions.game-protect owes me 20 000 Euros for this assessment. Thanks.

[game-protect]

If we are playing by GP rules then we shall play by GP rules:

I have the ability to assess the mental state of accounts which are "irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return".
I don't have the qualifications to psychoanalyze anyone but because of my time on the forum, I can do the above.
All "irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return" users cannot be trusted and their opinions are null.

I now retroactively apply this tag of "irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return" to game-protect, nullifying all of his opinions.

In the real world, you only can be called

- untrustworthy if you breached the trust of others!

- thief if you stole things

- killer if you killed someone

Only on bitcointalk.org you can call someone untrustworthy while he never breached the trust of anyone!

game-protect owes me 20 000 Euros for this assessment. Thanks.

In the real world, the "assessments" of extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts are worth exactly zero cents!

[actmyname]

game-protect owes me 20 000 Euros for this assessment. Thanks.

In the real world, the "assessments" of extemely mentaly ill and or  brain dead bitcointalk accounts are worth zero cents!

Exactly. Since I am not "extemely mentally ill and or  brain dead" and since game-protects is an "irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return" user, his assessments are not substantial and can be ignored with full fruition.

It is so laughable and obvious!

[game-protect]

Only because an extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account is not able to realise that he is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead does not mean that he is not!

It is so laughable and obvious!

This.

[actmyname]

Only because an extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account is not able to realise that he is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead does not mean that he is not!

Exactly! Only Just because an irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return user is not able to realize that he is irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return, it does not mean they are not!

It is so laughable and obvious!

This.

This.

[game-protect]

Only because an extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account is not able to realise that he is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead does not mean that he is not!

Exactly! Only Just because an irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return user is not able to realize that he is irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return, it does not mean they are not!

Your claim that the brains of the below mentioned extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts are irreparably is false and misleading, because only a physical examination could assess whether or not they are irreparably!

1982dre, actmyname, alexrossi, Astargath, Avirunes, bL4nkcode, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, WinRateCasino, xtraelv, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg

It is so laughable and obvious!

This.

[actmyname]

Only because an extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account is not able to realise that he is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead does not mean that he is not!

Exactly! Only Just because an irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return user is not able to realize that he is irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return, it does not mean they are not!

Your claim that the brains of the below mentioned extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk are irreparably is false and misleading, because only a physical examination could assess whether or not they are reparable!

I did not mention any of those users and you are doing some heavy projection.

[game-protect]

Only because an extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account is not able to realise that he is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead does not mean that he is not!

Exactly! Only Just because an irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return user is not able to realize that he is irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return, it does not mean they are not!

Your claim that the brains of the below mentioned extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk are irreparably is false and misleading, because only a physical examination could assess whether or not they are reparable!

I did not mention any of those users and you are doing some heavy projection.

You spoke about mentally damaged brains, so the suspicion immediately fall to the below extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts!

1982dre, actmyname, alexrossi, Astargath, Avirunes, bL4nkcode, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, WinRateCasino, xtraelv, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg

[yogg]

Only because an extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account is not able to realise that he is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead does not mean that he is not!

Exactly! Only Just because an irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return user is not able to realize that he is irreparably mentally damaged beyond the point of return, it does not mean they are not!

@GP :

[spoiler]
I think actmyname was talking about you.
[/spoiler]

Do you realize that, there are only two possibilities.
It's either the whole group of people who supported your flag and who you list in your posts that are mentally ill;
or it is simply you.

What is the most likely ?

And yes, it is hilarious to watch you dance and play with words.

[xtraelv]

And yes, it is hilarious to watch you dance and play with words.

I think you mean "the dancing grammar butcher".

[game-protect]

Do you realize that, there are only two possibilities.
It's either the whole group of people who supported your flag and who you list in your posts that are mentally ill;
or it is simply you.

What is the most likely ?

Considering that the group support a July 2019 scam, even though h4ns himself publicly states that he asked to get the 210€ back September 3rd and I confirmed his request with immediately closing all his pending support tickets, it is obvious and clear that the group supporting the false and misleading scam accusation is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead!

And it is also obvious and clear that based on its extreme mentall illness and or brain deadness the brains of the group are not able to realise it!

[actmyname]

Considering that the group support a July 2019 scam, even though h4ns himself publicly states that he asked to get the 210€ back September 3rd and I confirmed his request with immediately closing all his pending support tickets, it is obvious and clear that the group supporting the false and misleading scam accusation is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead!

Translation:

I did not scam, because the flag says it's around July when the scam was actually supposed to be on September, when I refused to pay back h4ns!

[game-protect]

Considering that the group support a July 2019 scam, even though h4ns himself publicly states that he asked to get the 210€ back September 3rd and I confirmed his request with immediately closing all his pending support tickets, it is obvious and clear that the group supporting the false and misleading scam accusation is extremely mentally ill and or brain dead!

Translation:

I did not scam,

Finally you got it!

[actmyname]

Translation:

I scammed h4ns

Finally you got it!

Cool, thanks for verifying that.

[game-protect]

Translation:

I scammed h4ns

Considering your criminal style, I am not surprised at all that you scammed h4ns!

[actmyname]

Translation:

I scammed h4ns

Considering your criminal style, I am not surprised at all that you scammed h4ns!

Nice. Glad to see you are finally confessing.Pack up, boys: we're done here.

[game-protect]

Pack up, boys: we're done here.

Can you as the leader of the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit group ask your partners in crime at what day and how the scam happened?

@ 1982dre, actmyname, alexrossi, Astargath, Avirunes, bL4nkcode, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, WinRateCasino, xtraelv, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg

At what day did the scam happen and how?

[mu_enrico]

at what day and how the scam happened?

Allow me to explain the day when the scam happened and your modus operandi.

On 30/04/2019, you lured h4ns to pay 210 EUR and to participate in your extortion attempt. Ignore the foundation bullshit, and clearly, your strategies were about extortions via article and email (scam #1).

Game Protect via email:

So first they could ignore, but later decide to get rid of the article.

Too bad, on 30/06/2019, your extortion efforts were not producing any results.

You then asked for more time, and hopefully, they (Betmaster.com) would decide to get rid of the article, bribe you, and you then can give some portion to h4ns.

However, h4ns then realized he was being suckered and decided to post here.

-Fin-

Hmm.. let's see bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io are your next targets, aren't they?

Note (edit):
- Article about betmaster was never produced (scam #2);
- There is no guarantee that the extortion money will be sent to GP clients; and
- h4ns never received the 210 EUR back (scam #3).

[game-protect]

at what day and how the scam happened?

Allow me to explain the day when the scam happened and your modus operandi.

On 30/04/2019, you lured h4ns to pay 210 EUR and to participate in your extortion attempt.

I asked at what day and how the scam happened, brain dead answers when an extortion happened!

[suchmoon]

On 30/04/2019, you lured h4ns to pay 210 EUR and to participate in your extortion attempt. Ignore the foundation bullshit, and clearly, your strategies were about extortions via article and email.

You're giving him way too much credit. His strategy was to con h4ns into sending him 210 euro and perhaps 10 euro extra as a loan - that last part didn't work out. He has already admitted that he didn't do anything on the case, because he "forgot".

The extortion schemes that he's trying to run are probably a separate income source for him. I doubt that money (if he gets any) ever makes it to his clients.

[game-protect]

On 30/04/2019, you lured h4ns to pay 210 EUR and to participate in your extortion attempt. Ignore the foundation bullshit, and clearly, your strategies were about extortions via article and email.

He has already admitted that he didn't do anything on the case, because he "forgot".

If mental illness would hurt, you would cry the whole day!

Over the time GP and I have sent each other more than 100 emails concerning several issues and scam cases of Curacao based books.

[mu_enrico]

The extortion schemes that he's trying to run are probably a separate income source for him. I doubt that money (if he gets any) ever makes it to his clients.

My bad!!

You are right! There is no guarantee that GP will ever pay the extortion money back to h4ns!
I'll put a note on my work here.

[suchmoon]

Over the time GP and I have sent each other more than 100 emails concerning several issues and scam cases of Curacao based books.

Those e-mails happened before you got the 210 euro, probably part of your attempt to con h4ns. After you got the money this happened:

So June 30 passed and he didn't give me any update on my case nor did he refund the money. I've sent him a BTC address and a request to refund the money. He replied: "I handled many claims in the past months (including your other claims) and forgot about this one. However, there are some things in process and it makes sence (sic) to wait longer."

Typical con artist lies.

I don't know how much you value your time but seeing how you're clinging to that 210 euro amount I guess 100 e-mails was worth it to you to run this scheme at ~2 euro per e-mail.

[game-protect]

Those e-mails happened before you got the 210 euro, probably part of your attempt to con h4ns.

How do you know what happened after 30.04.2019?

I don't know how much you value your time but seeing how you're clinging to that 210 euro amount I guess 100 e-mails was worth it to you to run this scheme at ~2 euro per e-mail.

Thank you for confirming that I did not scam h4ns, because ~1,5 Euro per email is not a scam in the real world!

[suchmoon]

Do you know that h4ns received 450 Euro after 30.04.2019?

I know that he didn't receive 210 euro from you and didn't receive the ~4000 euro from Betmaster (the claim you promised to resolve). Everything else is irrelevant.

Thank you for confirming that I did not scam h4ns, because ~1,5 Euro per email is not a scam in the real world!

He paid you not for the e-mails. He paid you to handle the claim that you "forgot".

[mu_enrico]

Do you know that h4ns received 450 Euro after 30.04.2019?

That sucks you got scammed.  Did he ever actually recover anything for you?

No, not a penny.

There was no new agreement.

[game-protect]

Do you know that h4ns received 450 Euro after 30.04.2019?

I know that he didn't receive 210 euro from you and didn't receive the ~4000 euro from Betmaster (the claim you promised to resolve). Everything else is irrelevant.

1) The 210€ are refunded with reducing it from the current 20,000€ compensation demand for damages caused by h4ns's defamation campaign:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

2) How do you know that h4ns did not receive the Betmaster claim? I never promised to solve the Betmaster claim!

3) For extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts it is irrelevant as they are anyway not able to understand basic real world things!

But for functioning real world brains it is very important, because h4ns is 240 Euro up and did not suffer a damage as he false and misleading claims!

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

He paid you not for the e-mails.

He donated for my assistance and my assistance includes email conversations!

[suchmoon]

2) How do you know that h4ns did not receive the Betmaster claim? I never promised to solve the Betmaster claim!
[...]
He donated for my assistance and my assistance includes email conversations!

Bullshit. You promised to get money from Bestmaster for h4ns by June 30, otherwise you promised to refund the "donation". You didn't get money from Betmaster and you didn't refund.

Whether you use e-mails or carrier pigeons in your "assistance" is irrelevant. You didn't do what you promised.

[game-protect]

2) How do you know that h4ns did not receive the Betmaster claim? I never promised to solve the Betmaster claim!
[...]
He donated for my assistance and my assistance includes email conversations!

Bullshit. You promised to get money from Bestmaster for h4ns by June 30, otherwise you promised to refund the "donation".

Please quote where I promised to get money from Betmaster?

You didn't get money from Betmaster and you didn't refund.

Please publish the confirmation by Betmaster that h4ns did not receive its claim?

Whether you use e-mails or carrier pigeons in your "assistance" is irrelevant. You didn't do what you promised.

Please show us proof that I didn't do what I promised?

[suchmoon]

~

I can assure you - nobody cares about your stupid questions. No one is gonna look at this thread and think "if GP keeps asking about it 300 more times maybe the scam will disappear?"

The fact that some users occasionally respond to you just means that we're probably bored and can spare a few minutes to help bump your scam story up.

[game-protect]

~

I can assure you - nobody cares about your stupid questions.

I can assure you - authorities will care!

No one is gonna look at this thread and think "if GP keeps asking about it 300 more times maybe the scam will disappear?"

At what day and how did the scam happen?

The fact that some users occasionally respond to you just means that we're probably bored and can spare a few minutes to help bump your scam story up.

If you support a scam, then you should be at least able to tell at what day and how the scam happened!

None of the 80 extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts is able to say at what day and how the alleged scam happened!

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

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[suchmoon]

~

I can assure you - nobody cares about your stupid questions.

I can assure you - authorities will care!

No, they won't. You can't even find a lawyer who wouldn't laugh at your bullshit defamation claim, let alone convince "authorities".

[Foxpup]

I can assure you - authorities will care!

Why, do you intend to persist in this nonsense long enough to add harassment to your list of crimes?

[actmyname]

The 210€ are refunded with reducing it from the current 20,000€ compensation demand for damages caused by h4ns's defamation campaign:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

Please provide evidence of the defamation campaign. Specifically, outline where h4ns has written or said something that is both untrue and harms your reputation.

Subjective statements, as long as there is no evidence that the speaker/writer is lying, are always true.

[game-protect]

Please provide evidence of the defamation campaign.

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

Warning: Trade with exteme caution!

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

Specifically, outline where h4ns has written or said something that is both untrue and harms your reputation.

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time (September 3rd).

In the real world, the substantiation of a suspicion that something is a scam / show happens when the scam happens. Therefore, according to h4ns a scam happened September 3rd and not July 2019 as he false and misleading claims in his false and misleading scam accusation!

Despite of this, whether or not someone comitted the criminal offense of fraud is defined by the public criminal laws and not by personal and subjective opinions!

[actmyname]

Please provide evidence of the defamation campaign. Specifically, outline where h4ns has written or said something that is both untrue and harms your reputation.

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

I asked for specifics.

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This harms your reputation though you still have not shown me where h4ns has written or said something that is untrue.

[suchmoon]

Despite of this, whether or not someone submitted the criminal offense of fraud is defined by the public criminal laws and not by personal and subjective opinions!

So you're basically saying that you will not refund h4ns unless he sues you, and you're probably hoping that 210 euro is not a large enough amount to get sued for. Your business model is getting clearer. Scam small amounts, threaten customers victims, and try to bury any accusations under a mountain of bullshit.

[game-protect]

Despite of this, whether or not someone submitted the criminal offense of fraud is defined by the public criminal laws and not by personal and subjective opinions!

So you're basically saying that you will not refund h4ns unless he sues you, and you're probably hoping that 210 euro is not a large enough amount to get sued for.

I say that I already refunded h4ns:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

Your business model is getting clearer. Scam small amounts, threaten customers victims, and try to bury any accusations under a mountain of bullshit.

Please quote where I threaten h4ns?

Your partner in crime marlboroza failed, but maybe you are able to deliver?

So stop threatening h4ns and send him his funds back.

How can I quote something what can't be found?  

[yogg]

I say that I already refunded h4ns

Can you post the transaction id ? I can't find it.

[game-protect]

I say that I already refunded h4ns

Can you post the transaction id ? I can't find it.

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

[yogg]

I say that I already refunded h4ns

Can you post the transaction id ? I can't find it.

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

That is not a valid transaction.

Code:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/h4nstoGP20,000€currentcompensationdemandfordamagescausedbyhisdefamationcampaign-GPtoh4ns210€=h4nstoGP19,790€:)

This gives an error, so the transaction cannot be found on the blockchain.

h4ns sent you BTC. Where is the transaction where you gave h4ns the BTC back ?

Do you have a court order instructing h4ns to pay you back 20,000€ ?
This number comes from your extremely mentally ill or brain dead bitcointalk account  

[game-protect]

I say that I already refunded h4ns

Can you post the transaction id ? I can't find it.

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

That is not a valid transaction.

Please quote the applicable laws where it says that this is not a valid transaction?

[yogg]

Please quote the applicable laws where it says that this is not a valid transaction?

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

This transaction does not exist.

Here is the same link but to the transaction h4ns sent you :

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/9cbe929809fe52d1f5d8f31b8b6b0a02a9eb0e80ba454ed66e46e51a0562185a

You see, this one works.

Where is your refund ?
It can't be found in the blockchain.

[game-protect]

The blockchain is not a law!

Please quote the applicable laws where it says that this is not a valid transaction?

[yogg]

The blockchain is not a law!

Please quote the applicable laws where it says that this is not a valid transaction?

You are the one talking about laws.

Your refund transaction is invalid because it can't be found on the blockchain but h4ns transaction can be found on the blockchain.

A BTC transaction that cannot be found on the blockchain is inexistant So your refund is inexistant !


You like talking about laws, don't you ?

Do you have a court order instructing h4ns to pay you back 20,000€ ?

Where is the legal court order requiring h4ns to pay you back the amount of 20,000€ ?
This number comes from your extremely mentally ill or brain dead bitcointalk account  

What payment method do you accept for the remaining 19790€ ?
Since this is what you claim, it means that you admit to already hold 210€ belonging to h4ns, but you don't have any court order allowing you to do so

[suchmoon]

Please quote where I threaten h4ns?

Threat of a defamation claim:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€

And before you start throwing around some made-up pseudo-legalese, here is a dictionary definition:

threat
/THret/
noun
1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

You're expressing intent to inflict monetary damage of 20k euro to h4ns as a retribution for publicizing your scam.

[game-protect]

threat
/THret/
noun
1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

Thank you for confirming that h4ns threatened me!

I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this. If he doesn't reply or refund my money I will red-flag him at a later point.

Make a statement or refund my money or I will publish a (false and misleading) scam accusation that will cause Game Protect a damage!

Thanks for your advice.

The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts!

[yogg]

~

Mr Protect, you forgot to address my request.

It is only 2 posts above.
Do you have problems with your eyes in addition to your brain being extremely mentally ill or dead ?

Where is the legal court order requiring h4ns to pay you back the amount of 20,000€ ?
This number comes from your extremely mentally ill or brain dead bitcointalk account  

What payment method do you accept for the remaining 19790€ ?
Since this is what you claim, it means that you admit to already hold 210€ belonging to h4ns, but you don't have any court order allowing you to do so

The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts!

You're right. Nobody should take your words seriously!

[suchmoon]

Make a statement or refund my money or I will publish a (false and misleading) scam accusation that will cause Game Protect a damage!

It's not false or misleading. You did scam 210 euro, and you made up a defamation claim as an excuse to not pay it back. If you suffered any damage it's because of your scam and your subsequent trolling, not because someone asked you to return what's rightfully theirs.

[marlboroza]

~

Lets see, you asked "where is proof of threat", you have been pointed where to look and then you went 180 degrees. Do you agree that you are threatening h4ns with this defamation bullshit or not?

It's not false or misleading. You did scam 210 euro, and you made up a defamation claim as an excuse to not pay it back. If you suffered any damage it's because of your scam and your subsequent trolling, not because someone asked you to return what's rightfully theirs.

For some strange reason I feel like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EneFmy8h1wQ and new round has started!

[game-protect]

Make a statement or refund my money or I will publish a (false and misleading) scam accusation that will cause Game Protect a damage!

It's not false or misleading.

If it is not false and misleading, then you should not have any problem to tell at what day and how the scam happened?

You did scam 210 euro, and you made up a defamation claim as an excuse to not pay it back.

Did you conclude that I scammed h4ns for 210€ based on this scam accusation?

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

[h4ns]

Do you know that h4ns received 450 Euro after 30.04.2019?

I wish I would have received 450 EUR but unfortunately this is not true.

[mu_enrico]

at what day and how the scam happened?

Allow me to explain the day when the scam happened and your modus operandi.

On 30/04/2019, you lured h4ns to pay 210 EUR and to participate in your extortion attempt. Ignore the foundation bullshit, and clearly, your strategies were about extortions via article and email (scam #1).

Game Protect via email:

So first they could ignore, but later decide to get rid of the article.

Too bad, on 30/06/2019, your extortion efforts were not producing any results.

You then asked for more time, and hopefully, they (Betmaster.com) would decide to get rid of the article, bribe you, and you then can give some portion to h4ns.

However, h4ns then realized he was being suckered and decided to post here.

-Fin-

Hmm.. let's see bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io are your next targets, aren't they?

Note (edit):
- Article about betmaster was never produced (scam #2);
- There is no guarantee that the extortion money will be sent to GP clients; and
- h4ns never received the 210 EUR back (scam #3).

- h4ns never received the 450 EUR (lie #4).

[game-protect]

Lets see, you asked "where is proof of threat", you have been pointed where to look and then you went 180 degrees.

In the real world, the one who claims that I threaten h4ns has to quote where?

[marlboroza]

Lets see, you asked "where is proof of threat", you have been pointed where to look and then you went 180 degrees.

In the real world, the one who claims that I threaten h4ns has to quote where?

Those are your words GP, take your time and read this part: "threatened to get sued", did they THREATENED to sue you for DEFAMATION?  

So you can't sue h4ns because you will reveal your identity then and you obviously risk serious charges and in real world without lawsuit your defamation case makes no sense.

It is best that you just return 210€ and get over with it.

[game-protect]

So you can't sue h4ns because you will reveal your identity then and you obviously risk serious charges and in real world without lawsuit your defamation case makes no sense.

Real world people who have studied law do not spam its signature for cents!

I the real world, you can file criminal complaints anonymously and engage a lawyer to enforce a damage compensation through civil court proceeding!

[Foxpup]

I the real world, you can file criminal complaints anonymously and engage a lawyer to enforce a damage compensation through civil court proceeding!

You obviously live in a different world than the rest of us (I mean, even more obviously than it was already). In our world, you can't file a court case anonymously without the approval of the judge, which is only granted in extraordinary circumstances, what with the whole "right of the accused to know their accuser" thing. Human rights are so inconvenient like that.

[game-protect]

I the real world, you can file criminal complaints anonymously and engage a lawyer to enforce a damage compensation through civil court proceeding!

In our world, you can't file a court case anonymously without the approval of the judge, which is only granted in extraordinary circumstances, what with the whole "right of the accused to know their accuser" thing.

1) Game Protect operates in the real world and not in your separate fantasy dream world!

2) The civil court proceeding will be enforced by a hired lawyer!

I the real world, you can file criminal complaints anonymously and engage a lawyer to enforce a damage compensation through civil court proceeding!

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Please show the written contract?

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

[xtraelv]

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Please show the written contract?

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

You've been told numerous times now.

Based on what is published here:

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

1) It is a contract. (Yes - I did actually study contract law at University)
2) It is in writing.
3) You did ruin your reputation because you breached the conditions of the contract by not returning the 210 Euro on 30 June 2019.

I don't know what makes you so stupid, but it really works.

[game-protect]

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Please show the written contract?

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

You've been told numerous times now.

Based on what is published here:

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

1) It is a contract. (Yes - I did actually study contract law at University)

Game Protect only accepts donations and does not make any contracts!

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Judgements by extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts do not have any validity in the real world!

Please show the judgement by a real world court that my emails are a written contracts

2) It is in writing.

Really, emails are written?

3) You did ruin your reputation because you breached the conditions of the contract by not returning the 210 Euro on 30 June 2019.

Thank you for confirming that this false and misleading scam accusation ruined my reputation.

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

[yogg]

Game Protect only accepts donations and does not make any contracts!

So, you are a beggar ?

If the only thing you do is accept donations and not doing anything in return:

What are you doing on this forum ? Begging is not allowed.

[actmyname]

They're not forming a contract with me -- they were merely donating money in return for services provided.

How ridiculous that you assume the services would have been successful!

[Foxpup]

Really, emails are written?

We know you're illiterate (presumably your "lawyer" takes the time to read these posts aloud to you), but surely you recognise that emails are generally composed of a written language of some form, even if you don't understand it? I mean, you can see the strange symbols of the alphabet arranged in patterns that literate people call "words" and "sentences" and which are collectively known as "writing", right?

[AB de Royse777]

Really, emails are written?

Explain "written" in your own words granny.

We know you're illiterate (presumably your "lawyer" takes the time to read these posts aloud to you), but surely you recognise that emails are generally composed of a written language of some form, even if you don't understand it? I mean, you can see the strange symbols of the alphabet arranged in patterns that literate people call "words" and "sentences" and which are collectively known as "writing", right?

Does this mean, GP does not have the intellectual level even of a 5 year kid?

[Foxpup]

Does this mean, GP does not have the intellectual level even of a 5 year kid?

Unless he starts showing some evidence of primary-school level thought, I'll have to assume that he's composing his posts on a Magna Doodle™ he was given after having his crayons taken away because he kept scribbling on walls.

[AB de Royse777]

~snip~
Unless he starts showing some evidence of primary-school level thought, I'll have to assume that he's composing his posts on a Magna Doodle™ he was given after having his crayons taken away because he kept scribbling on walls.

You nailed it and it would be interesting to see his response (GP's) in here.
Out of sMerts :-P

[game-protect]

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

2) It is in writing.

Really, emails are written?

We know you're illiterate (presumably your "lawyer" takes the time to read these posts aloud to you), but surely you recognise that emails are generally composed of a written language of some form, even if you don't understand it? I mean, you can see the strange symbols of the alphabet arranged in patterns that literate people call "words" and "sentences" and which are collectively known as "writing", right?

First time I hear that emails are written!

And because emails are written, they are a written contract!

So always when someone writes an email it is (according to xtraelv) a written contract!

[yahoo62278]

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

2) It is in writing.

Really, emails are written?

We know you're illiterate (presumably your "lawyer" takes the time to read these posts aloud to you), but surely you recognise that emails are generally composed of a written language of some form, even if you don't understand it? I mean, you can see the strange symbols of the alphabet arranged in patterns that literate people call "words" and "sentences" and which are collectively known as "writing", right?

First time I hear that emails are written!

And because emails are in writen, they are a written contract!

So always when someone writes an email it is (according to xtraelv) a written contract!

Are you really this dumb? How can you offer a service and expect people to take you seriously if you act like an ignorant person all the time? Look at your recent trust wall tirade, it's ridiculous and shows potential customers you are nothing but a vindictive child.

You obviously know you offered a service to that h4ns guy. You obviously know you offered a refund for services due in June/July of 2019. You have decided to just act ignorant and not back your words about your offers or services. You have shown people that you do not stand behind what you offer. You just look for excuses.

Anyone dumb enough to contact you deserves to get screwed, cause that's all you can offer them. I'm sure you started off with good intentions, but actimg as you do shows how much of a joke you are.

Take a step back and look at your behavior man. Fix the mess you created. If you ever want anyone to take you seriously, you need to start acting like a rational person and not one of the dumbest people to ever post on this forum.

[actmyname]

Unfortunately, game-protect is either unable to deduce the false equivalency or is unable to honestly admit to their faults.

There is no problem, though, as we can gather that game-protect's values prioritize deceptive manipulation of semantics and repetitive indignance and deflection.

[xtraelv]

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Judgements by extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts do not have any validity in the real world!

Please show the judgement by a real world court that my emails are a written contracts

2) It is in writing.

Really, emails are written?

3) You did ruin your reputation because you breached the conditions of the contract by not returning the 210 Euro on 30 June 2019.

Thank you for confirming that this false and misleading scam accusation ruined my reputation.

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

1) UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.
For a contract via email to be legally binding under UK law there needs to be:
An offer;
Acceptance of the offer;
Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

Under USA law
https://www.icaew.com/archive/library/subject-gateways/law/legal-alert/2018-02/case-law-court-confirms-emails-can-create-legally-binding-contracts

2) Yes - they are a written form of communication.

3) Your reputation - by your own conduct - was already absolutely rubbish.  I cannot imagine how this could ruin it even more. What this claim proved was that you go to extreme lows to deceive people from their funds. The only person that has a fantasy that you have a "good reputation" - is you.

4) By making the claim that it is a donation and by falsely claiming that "there is no contract"  you make it absolutely obvious with your current argument  to everyone that:

If we were to accept your argument then using your own logic and terminology:

a) You made a written statement that you had no intention of keeping in an effort to get a non refundable "donation".
b) You used your "reputation" to convince him to accept that "promise".
c) You have now clearly and publicly stated that you had no intention of keeping that promise because you consider it a "donation".

[game-protect]

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Judgements by extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts do not have any validity in the real world!

Please show the judgement by a real world court that my emails are a written contracts

2) It is in writing.

Really, emails are written?

3) You did ruin your reputation because you breached the conditions of the contract by not returning the 210 Euro on 30 June 2019.

Thank you for confirming that this false and misleading scam accusation ruined my reputation.

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

1) UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

An offer;
Acceptance of the offer;
Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

Thank you for confirming that a legally binding agreement, let alone a written contract, does not exist!

Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make any contracts.

[xtraelv]

Game Protect does not make any contracts. Contracts are only made with the enforcement foundation.

This is where you are wrong.

You deceived the h4ns by stating that he would get a refund by 30 June 2019.

Whether you believe this is a contract is irrelevant.

h4ns believed he was making a contract with you and as a result of the promise made by you transferred the funds.

Whether you like it or not - you made a contract with h4ns to send the 210 euro to the foundation.

Whether you get the 210 euro back from the foundation is irrelevant. You owe h4ns 210 euro.

How does Game Protect make money? What are the numbers?
The site is barely making enough money to cover expenses, with the monthly profit being about 300/month. The sites makes money from:

– Affiliate commissions.

– Monthly/yearly contributions.

– Individual orders for investigation and assistance.

How big is your team? What do they do and what are their backgrounds?
The number of participants varies depending on the cases and whether it includes lawyers, private investigators and IT experts.

I personally have good knowledge with regards to civil laws, criminal laws and private investigations.

Source: https://bitcoin-millionaire.com/business-gameprotect/
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20191104234928/https://bitcoin-millionaire.com/business-gameprotect/

[game-protect]

h4ns believed he was making a contract with you and as a result of the promise made by you transferred the funds.

h4ns believed that he made a written contract with Game Protect?

In the real world, you make something only if you fulfill the applicable laws and requirements!

You will not get sentenced for murder only because you believe that you killed someone!

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

In the real world, if you publicly believe and claim that an entity is a scam / show because it asked you to lend BTC worth 10€, then you are at a high risk that the judge will order a medically psychological examination!

[xtraelv]

[yogg]

In the real world, if you publicly believe and claim that an entity is a scam / show because it asked you to lend BTC worth 10€, then you are at a high risk that the judge will order a medically psychological examination!

Let us try that ! Curious to see who's gonna end up in coocoo land.
Please give us the details to your lawyer or your sollicitor so we can explain to him what's going on ?

Wait, do you have one because it was asked a few times and you are never able to do so ?

[game-protect]

The enforcement options are clearly and publicly stated on the Game Protect website:

https://game-protect.com

How can I qualify?

1) Simply register your betting or gambling account with any Qualify free operator.

2) If you ignored the option 1) and got scammed, then you still have the following enforcement options:

a) Collection proceeding on a 65:35 no cure no pay basis, if the claim is at least around 5,000 Euro or

b) Donate 5% of your claim (minimum 100 Euro) in advance or

c) Register with any Qualify free operator and accumulate affiliate commission worth 5% of your claim.

Anyone claiming that this is a deception, obviously is not sound of mind!

[AB de Royse777]

b) Donate 5% of your claim (minimum 100 Euro) in advance or

Donate! LOL
I must say that I am not really updated with the information. It seems we have a beggar here :-D


or

c) Register with any Qualify free operator and accumulate affiliate commission worth 5% of your claim.

We have these poor online affiliates who can do anything just to get a sign up LOL

GP, get a real job bud. I hope you do not have a family to feed.

[game-protect]

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Your partner in crime xtraelv investigated that a legally binding agreement, let alone a written contract, does not exist!

1) UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such.

[actmyname]

The Parmasist

@The Pharmacist is this your cousin?

This makes me think that game-protect types the names out one-by-one (prior to their copy-pasting) which makes me think they're even more insane than I originally thought. TwitchySeal's theory might make some sense here.

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such.

Nice. Outside of the law, huh?

[suchmoon]

This makes me think that game-protect types the names out one-by-one (prior to their copy-pasting) which makes me think they're even more insane than I originally thought.

Well, his list is sorted alphabetically instead of by activity or whatever the default sort order is on a flag, so he's clearly putting some effort into reformatting it.

I wonder what McDonald's is paying in his country. I bet he would have been able to earn a lot more than 210 euro if he spent this time flipping burgers instead of trolling. Unless he's too crazy to the point of unemployable.

[DireWolfM14]

I wonder what McDonald's is paying in his country. I bet he whould have been able to earn a lot more than 210 euro if he spent this time flipping burgers instead of trolling. Unless he's too crazy to the point of unemployable.

Yes, even McDonald's has burger-flipper standards, and bat-shit-crazy is an automatic disqualifier.

[efialtis]

@ 1982dre, actmyname, addarmstrong, alexrossi, asphyxiate, Astargath, Avirunes, BigBoy89, bL4nkcode, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, ChiBitCTy, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DiamondCardz, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, The Parmasist, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, whitcher_sense, WinRateCasino, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg, Zwei

Your partner in crime xtraelv investigated that a legally binding agreement, let alone a written contract, does not exist!

1) UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such.

I am so glad I finally made it to your list man - seriously! About time...! Online Gaming Consumer Protection... LOL

[AB de Royse777]

~snip~

I am so glad I finally made it to your list man - seriously! About time...! Online Gaming Consumer Protection... LOL

Welcome to the elite group :-P

[game-protect]

xtraelx deliberately misleads the public with claiming that this email



is a WRITTEN CONTRACT!

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

[xtraelv]

After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

According to you game protect makes no contracts.

Show me the contract that continues his claim.  Show your capacity to represent him in a real life court !

You can claim either that you don't make contracts or that you have a contract with him to enforce his claim. You can't claim both without exposing the other as a lie.

[game-protect]

After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

According to you game protect makes no contracts.

Correct.

Show me the contract that continues his claim.

Game Protect does not make contracts!

Show your capacity to represent him in a real life court !

Game Protect does not represent claimants at courts!

[xtraelv]

After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

According to you game protect makes no contracts.

Correct.

Show me the contract that continues his claim.

Game Protect does not make contracts!

Show your capacity to represent him in a real life court !

Game Protect does not represent claimants at courts!

How can you enforce his claim if you do not have a contract to represent him ?

[game-protect]

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

The below extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts persist to abuse the trust system with knowingly supporting the incorrect fact-statement that Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019, but are not able to show the alleged written contract!

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Support: 1982dre, actmyname, addarmstrong, alexrossi, Alveus, asphyxiate, asu, Astargath, Avirunes, babo, BayAreaCoins, BigBoy89, bL4nkcode, blurryeyed, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, ChiBitCTy, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DiamondCardz, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Game-Protects, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, The Parmasist, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, whitcher_sense, WinRateCasino, xtraelv, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg, Zwei

[marlboroza]

@The Pharmacist is this your cousin?

This makes me think that game-protect types the names out one-by-one (prior to their copy-pasting) which makes me think they're even more insane than I originally thought. TwitchySeal's theory might make some sense here.

Lol!
It is not so bad after all, more time game-protect spend typing user names, less time to scam he has.

@gp report us to administration, make everyone aware of your behaviour 

[LoyceV]

Around 2 days ago, h4ns (the creator of the Flag) withdrew it:

2019-11-12 Tue 03.18h
source: loyce.club

741 Active. (Withdrawn!) h4ns flagged game-protect (type 3, see why). Supported by Foxpup, alexrossi, suchmoon, babo, yahoo62278, LFC_Bitcoin, RHavar, mocacinno, SyGambler, DaveF, bones261, The Pharmacist, yogg, examplens, mindrust, Avirunes, nutildah, actmyname, Lutpin, Slow death, marlboroza, bL4nkcode, TMAN, Pamoldar, subSTRATA, stompix, LeGaulois, TheUltraElite, Kalemder, AdolfinWolf, Hhampuz, squatz1, HCP, crwth, DiamondCardz, bob123, asu, TwitchySeal, xtraelv, Royse777, o_e_l_e_o, iasenko, mosprognoz, witcher_sense, pandukelana2712, mu_enrico, ChiBitCTy, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DireWolfM14, morvillz7z, TECSHARE, BayAreaCoins, hopenotlate, NeuroticFish, iluvbitcoins, eckmar, robelneo, BigBoy89, passwordnow, Astargath, 1982dre, Initscri, Rodeo02, sheenshane, Alveus, cabalism13, blurryeyed, CASlO, yazher, Captain Corporate, JSRAW, lighpulsar07, rhomelmabini, Harkorede, PassThePopcorn, Mirae, Zwei, efialtis, kruglikov, DreamerBT, WinRateCasino, ScamViruS, Kevinn22, jimmyhate, addarmstrong, LeonGhibli, asphyxiate, Game-Protects. Opposed by nobody.

The Flag system requires Flag-creators to withdraw their support once they've been made whole. Did that happen?

[game-protect]

The Flag system requires Flag-creators to withdraw their support once they've been made whole. Did that happen?

Game Protect never scammed h4ns and the scam accusation is false and misleading!

theymos announced to remove DT members who knowingly support a flag containing incorrect fact-statements. Did that happen?

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

Game Protect does not make any contracts and never made any written contract with h4ns!

The supporters know that a written contract does not exist, because I asked them multiple times to show the alleged written contract, but they are not able to show it!

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Support: 1982dre, actmyname, addarmstrong, alexrossi, Alveus, asphyxiate, asu, Astargath, Avirunes, babo, BayAreaCoins, BigBoy89, bL4nkcode, blurryeyed, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, ChiBitCTy, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DiamondCardz, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Game-Protects, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, The Parmasist, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, whitcher_sense, WinRateCasino, xtraelv, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg, Zwei

[mocacinno]

I have mixed feelings about this post... But here I go:

I will drop my support for h4ns's flag and exchange my negative tag on GP's trust page by a different negative tag because h4ns withdrew his claim. I feel that when a flag has been dropped by the flag creator, i no longer have the right to keep supporting the flag or tag, since withdrawing a flag more or less means that h4ns was reimbursed or forgave GP (unless he tells us otherwise).

However, i still believe my initial support for this flag was correct. I read h4ns's topic and to the best of my knowledge, i tought it was valid.
I am not a lawyer, and i'm not interested in discussing wether or not an e-mail is to be considered to be a written contract (or not), or that mixing the word "donation" into the conversation results in making every payment a donation (or not).
As I said: i'm not a lawyer,  it's perfectly possible that in a court of law GP's statement would hold, however, my gut feeling tells me these are all semantics, and i believed there was some kind of agreement between GP and h4ns, and GP did not honour said agreement thus deserved a flag and a tag, no matter how hard he tried to focus on the semantics to find a loophole that would prove his "innocence".

But, like i said, the withdrawal of h4ns more or less forces me to withdraw my support... I still wouldn't trust GP with a single penny, the way he handles all criticism tells me i never want to be a client of his company, and leads me to believe he'll be able to weasel his way out of any commitment he makes.

[AB de Royse777]

~snip~

~snip~

What about blackmailing.
GP could be blackmailing h4ns and as a result possibly h4ns is going silent? Don't forget that GP has h4ns's identifications.

And if this is true then how we as a community response here against GP?

PS: I am sure yogg, actmyname, marlboroza are aware of what I am trying to point out.

[mocacinno]

--snip--
What about blackmailing.
GP could be blackmailing h4ns and as a result possibly h4ns is going silent? Don't forget that GP has h4ns's identifications.

And if this is true then how we as a community response here against GP?

This would change everything offcourse, but it would be really hard to proof blackmailing unless h4ns could confirm this.
If h4ns is being blackmailed, i'd encourage him to go to his local law enforcement agency and open a case against GP, then come to the forum with this case. Theymos has ip logs, there are payment traces, GP has an active website and claims to have defended cases. I'm pretty sure a serious law enforcement agence would be able to trace him in case somebody opened a police report against him.

I will continue to support all flags i'm confronted with that are based on valid claims, this includes any future flags on GP (for example, a flag for blackmailing, eventough i don't know which type of flag you'd have to create if you were being blackmailed). At this moment, I'm just confronted with the fact that the flag creator withdrew his flag, and i'm not presented with evidence that he was being forced to do so... So i feel i have no other choice but to drop my support for this particular flag.

[AB de Royse777]

This would change everything offcourse, but it would be really hard to proof blackmailing unless h4ns could confirm this.

There are some other users I have mentioned in my last post can confirm such thing. May be a fear from h4ns has forced him (h4ns) to drop the claim.

If h4ns is being blackmailed, i'd encourage him to go to his local law enforcement agency and open a case against GP, then come to the forum with this case. Theymos has ip logs, there are payment traces, GP has an active website and claims to have defended cases. I'm pretty sure a serious law enforcement agence would be able to trace him in case somebody opened a police report against him.

The idea is good and off course theymos has the IP logs but question is if he will share it or not. If he does not then things will go worse for h4ns. And from practical experience I never seen theymos to step in to this sorts of case.

[mocacinno]

--snip--
And from practical experience I never seen theymos to step in to this sorts of case.

I have, my memory fails me so i cannot find the topic in question.

--snip--
I am willing to cooperate with police on real scams. Whenever someone asks me to release a scammer's IP, I tell them to have police email me from an official police address. I have received police requests a handful of times. Mostly the cases were real scams and I gave the police the requested info. In some cases I've rejected their requests. For example, I refused to give information to some foreign version of the SEC because securities laws are unjust. Of course, you should not trust that I will act in your best interest. If you want to be anonymous, then you must use Tor (or whatever).

[AB de Royse777]

~snip~

I have, my memory fails me so i cannot find the topic in question.

--snip--
I am willing to cooperate with police on real scams. Whenever someone asks me to release a scammer's IP, I tell them to have police email me from an official police address. I have received police requests a handful of times. Mostly the cases were real scams and I gave the police the requested info. In some cases I've rejected their requests. For example, I refused to give information to some foreign version of the SEC because securities laws are unjust. Of course, you should not trust that I will act in your best interest. If you want to be anonymous, then you must use Tor (or whatever).

Yeah, I am aware of this but I said in practice I have never seen it. May be h4ns can talk prior about this with theymos before going for such steps if he really wants.

But here is my question that is concerning me:

What we as a community do when we know that there are some bad force behind something and someone (x) is blackmailing someone else (y) to drop a claim because he (x) has such information to put him (y) trouble in real life.

Do we allow the person x to do such thing? If not then how to we keep the community safe from such person so that some other user (z) does not fall a victim of the same?

[game-protect]

However, i still believe my initial support for this flag was correct. I read h4ns's topic and to the best of my knowledge, i tought it was valid.

I asked you to show the alleged written contract and you are not able to deliver!

Therefore you knowingly support a flag containing incorrect fact-statements and abused the trust system!

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

I am not a lawyer, and i'm not interested in discussing wether or not an e-mail is to be considered to be a written contract (or not), or that mixing the word "donation" into the conversation results in making every payment a donation (or not).

In other words, you publicly support that a written contract was violated, but you do not want to know whether or not it is true!

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

[mocacinno]

--snip--

What we as a community do when we know that there are some bad force behind something and someone (x) is blackmailing someone else (y) to drop a claim because he (x) has such information to put him (y) trouble in real life.

Do we allow the person x to do such thing? If not then how to we keep the community safe from such person so that some other user (z) does not fall a victim of the same?

Personally, i feel bad i had to remove my support for the tag, but with the withdrawal of h4ns, i'd be supporting something the original victim doesn't want support for. It's perfectly possible it was a case of backmail, but so far there is no proof...
Blackmailing is a real life offence, not just breaking a forum rule, i personally feel that if h4ns is being blackmailed, the least of his worries would be getting GP tagged or flagged, he'd rather see him fined or behind bars. The only way to do this is getting law enforcement involved.
But once again, this is all speculation... I've seen no proof h4ns is being blackmailed. It's perfectly possible GP just payed h4ns the €210 to get rid of this problem, or that h4ns just decided to forgive GP since he tought €210 wasn't worth his troubles...

But, if there ever is a flag for blackmailing, and there is sufficient proof for me to conclude h4ns was blackmailed, i'd support that flag in a heartbeat. For now, i have left negative trust on GP's profile based on the things i've actually observed: his erratic behaviour, the fact that he posts medical information about mental illnesses without consent (thus invades other's privacy), the fact that he twists words and defenitions to find loopholes (think about fixating on dates, the word "donation", the fact that he makes financial claims for unproven facts and then deducts refunds from these claims,...

@GP's rant: keep repeating the same semantics over and over again won't make me change my mind. I find the fact that you don't think an email is a written contract semantics. I find the fact that you brought the word "donations" in your emails semantics. I find the fact that the original flag wasn't pinpointing the exact date semantics.

I'm not in DT1, but please contact Theymos if you feel i should be excluded from DT1 if i would ever make it into there by the voting system (highly doubtfull, i don't think a lot of people would ever include me in their trustlists)

The only reason i withdrew my support was because h4ns withdrew his flag... For some strange reason, you've gotten what you wanted...

[AB de Royse777]

~snip~
It's perfectly possible GP just payed h4ns the €210 to get rid of this problem,

The personality we experienced from GP so far, I do not think a person like GP would not try to take leverage of the refund he made and kept it silent. In fact GP is saying he owes y amount of money from h4ns and the amount of €210 has been deducted from that y amount (do you see how he is counter attacking?)

or that h4ns just decided to forgive GP since he tought €210 wasn't worth his troubles...

This could be a reason but again I do not think this is the case.

If I have a clash with someone then I will not go and write a long easy to some xyz person saying that ignore that someone coz this does not worth beep beep beep coz he has my beep beep beep etc.

By the way, you are perfectly okay to support or not to support a flag. My goal of this conversation is not anything to do with your flag supporting or dropping. I hope you understand and don't feel bad about it.

I am trying to find a ground of what we as a community should do if we have this feeling that there are some odd things going on and someone is becoming a victim of blackmailing. If we allow this kind of blackmailing then in the future the same person will make more victim of him. You or me could be the next one!

[game-protect]

How can the community prevent bitcointalk accounts to abuse the trust system?

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

The below extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts knowingly support the incorrect fact-statement that Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019, but are not able to show the alleged written contract!

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Support: 1982dre, actmyname, addarmstrong, alexrossi, Alveus, asphyxiate, asu, Astargath, Avirunes, babo, BayAreaCoins, BigBoy89, bL4nkcode, blurryeyed, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, ChiBitCTy, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DiamondCardz, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Game-Protects, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, IconFirm, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, (mocacinno), morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, The Parmasist, TheUltraElite, thisnewcoin, TMAN, TwitchySeal, whitcher_sense, WinRateCasino, xtraelv, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg, Zwei

Is bitcointalk.org a legal-free zone where everyone can abuse the trust system?

[nutildah]

Is bitcointalk.org a legal-free zone where everyone can abuse the trust system?

Seeing as how you, one of the worst trust abusers on the forum, is still here, there's obviously not much "legality" associated with the trust system. What are you even doing here? Every chance you've had to salvage your reputation you just doubled down with your crazy antics. You should not be in charge of any kind of business whatsoever, and certainly nobody should trust you with their money (or confidence, or personal information, or time for that matter).

[game-protect]

Is bitcointalk.org a legal-free zone where everyone can abuse the trust system?

Seeing as how you, one of the worst trust abusers on the forum, is still here, there's obviously not much "legality" associated with the trust system. What are you even doing here? Every chance you've had to salvage your reputation you just doubled down with your crazy antics. You should not be in charge of any kind of business whatsoever, and certainly nobody should trust you with their money (or confidence, or personal information, or time for that matter).

Why do you abuse the trust system and knowingly support a flag containing the incorrect fact-statement that a written contract was violated around July 2019?

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Support: nutildah

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

[nutildah]

Why do you abuse the trust system and knowingly support a flag containing the incorrect fact-statement that a written contract was violated around July 2019?

h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Support: nutildah

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

You violated a written contract, and theymos is not on your side here. We as a community have decided that your email to h4ns in which you promised to refund his money constitutes a written contract, even if it is not a legally enforceable one. I'm sure you've sent theymos a hundred PMs. If he agreed with you and not us, we would have heard about it by now.

[game-protect]

You violated a written contract,

Please show the violated written contract?

At what day and how did the scam happen?

[game-protect]

@ 1982dre, actmyname, addarmstrong, AdolfinWolf, alexrossi, Alveus, asphyxiate, asu, Astargath, Avirunes, babo, BayAreaCoins, BigBoy89, bL4nkcode, blurryeyed, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, ChiBitCTy, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DiamondCardz, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Game-Protects, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, IconFirm, iluvbitcoins, Indymoney, Initscri, jimmyhate, Joel_Jantsen, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, Lafu, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, (mocacinno), morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, Ringg, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death, sockpuppet1911, squatz1, stompix, Stryfe, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, The Parmasist, TheUltraElite, thisnewcoin, TMAN, TwitchySeal, whitcher_sense, WinRateCasino, xtraelv, yahoo62278, Yatsan, yazher, yogg, Zwei

You publicly support that Game Protect violated a written contract July 2019

h4ns alleged the following, but later withdrew it: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Please show the written contract?

[nutildah]

You violated a written contract,

Please show the violated written contract?

At what day and how did the scam happen?

We've discussed this point a hundred times already. You don't consider your email to h4ns to be a written contract. We do. Nobody is going to change their mind that you are the least trustworthy member of this forum, and if you keep posting here we will always remind you of your scamming past. Your business here is finished. You can leave now.

[game-protect]

You don't consider your email to h4ns to be a written contract.

The publicly stated and appicable laws do not consider the email I sent to h4ns as a written contract!

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

We do.

Thank you for confirming that 95 extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts knowingly support a flag containing incorrect fact-statements!

Nobody is going to change their mind that you are the least trustworthy member of this forum, and if you keep posting here we will always remind you of your scamming past.

Who did I scam and how?

[game-protect]

109 bitcointalk accounts support that h4ns withdrew his false red flag towards game-protect!

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

Why is the red flag still shown above my threads and why is the "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" still shown at my public profile?

[nutildah]

109 bitcointalk accounts support that h4ns withdrew his false red flag towards game-protect!

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

Why is the red flag still shown above my threads and why is the "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" still shown at my public profile?

Because you're still a scammer.

[game-protect]

Because you're still a scammer.

You are still a mentally ill criminal, yet I neither see a red flag shown above your threads nor "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" at your public profile.

Therefore your explanation does not make any sense!

Stating nonsense in the name of sportsbet.io speaks for itself!

[suchmoon]

Can we please just ignore game-protect? Except when he's trolling random threads trying to rope in new victims, in which case report to mods for off-topic / promotional spam etc. Hopefully the third ban will be a permanent one.

[game-protect]

game-protect banned = bitcointalk.org domain permanent seized!

If this is your wish, I am fine with it!

[suchmoon]

game-protect banned = bitcointalk.org domain permanent seized!

Oh no...

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=game-protect

3/3/2020 2:12:26 AM    Changed to Archived status    Autoban user

Also his thread seems to have disappeared.

[nutildah]

game-protect banned = bitcointalk.org domain permanent seized!

Oh no...

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=game-protect

3/3/2020 2:12:26 AM    Changed to Archived status    Autoban user

Also his thread seems to have disappeared.

Well, guess we'll all have to find another hobby now.

RIP game-protect... He was... a guy, or not, who was very... persistent. His legacy will be... um, memorialized... in the form of a Bitcointalk and BPIP profile.

[mocacinno]

--snip--
His legacy will be... um, memorialized... in the form of a Bitcointalk and BPIP profile.

Well, in the form of bitcointalk and bpip profiles AND loads of inconsistent retaliatory red trust ramblings on the profiles of anybody who spoke up against him...

[TheBeardedBaby]

Why I think there will be a ban evading event to be happening very soon, if it's not already happened.
Maybe check the last accounts created after today at 01:55:09 AM - that was the last login of the account. I don't think he/she will give up that easy.
We have to backup the database before the is domain permanent seized. /jk

[DaveF]

It would be nice if they purged all of GPs posts / threads / feedback / everything.
Kind of like erasing them from existence. Would probably dive them insane that their ramblings are no longer here.


-Dave

[NeuroticFish]

It would be nice if they purged all of GPs posts / threads / feedback / everything.

This would be wonderful!
The ban is also great; it just took way too long until it happened.

His legacy will be... um, memorialized... in the form of a Bitcointalk and BPIP profile.

And maybe a bugfix in bpip extension.    (edit: indirectly, but this is how I've found it).

[LeGaulois]

game-protect banned = bitcointalk.org domain permanent seized!

Oh no...

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=game-protect

Merry Christmas! 🎅

[actmyname]

I'm not so certain it's a good thing, considering that in lieu of the massively-tagged account, a brand new account trying to scheme newbies into his website would potentially have a higher success rate. On one hand, there is the constant "ban evasion" looming over future accounts, but on the other hand that takes time and is subject to circumstantial evidence (what of the argument, "i'm not related to gp and just advertising their service") if they're not going to sign up with the same network identification.Instinctively, though, I want to say that I'm happy with the outcome.