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October 02, 2019, 08:19:01 AM Last edit: October 02, 2019, 10:23:28 PM by YOSHIE Merited by The Cryptovator (5), suchmoon (4), bones261 (4), Ezravdb (3), The Sceptical Chymist (2), 1miau (2), d_fitrie (2), KTChampions (1), masulum (1), BITCOIN4X (1), pandukelana2712 (1) |
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Mycro management, team and manager, dishonest, cheating, corruption, breaking promises, i declare mycro the greatest gift of fraud.Flag support. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=796From the start of the agreement: (MYO token. 3.5% (3,500,000 MYO) will be assigned to the Bounty Pool).
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2F4b63.jpg&t=665&c=8PJUQODfmeZGhQ)
But after the bounty ran for about 52 weeks, the rules were changed with KYC within three days, this was clearly a fraud, for their benefit.
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Formulir KYC: https://forms.gle/8ZmJqD9CqNNZFWMM6
🔥[BOUNTY][ICO][MYO]🔥MYCRO JOBS - SIMPLY GETTING THE JOB DONE🔥
MYO token agreement given to participants as much as (3.5% (3,500,000 MYO).
Please check participation here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1paUtIQV2oQaP4CP_e024YUY6KfnIITOwV6Ad4WuUiwA/edit#gid=602533092
translation and moderation.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2F49b4.jpg&t=665&c=B9Ui-aU24-7bGA) Total: MYO 46.392
Campaign bonus
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2F938c.jpg&t=665&c=1_uyR18Ne7Zltw) Total: MYO 75.000
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If calculated from spreadsheets, half of the agreement they cut, this also applies to other social campaigns, Twitter, signatures, faecebooks etc.
1. translation and moderation. 5% ~ 175.000 MYO 2. Twitter Campaign 10% ~ 350.000 MYO 3. Facebook Campaign 10% ~ 350.000 MYO 4. Sgnature Campaign 22,5% ~ 787.500 MYO 5. Telegram 5% ~ 175.000 MYO 6. Telegram Name Logo 7,5% ~ 262.500 MYO 7. Content Creation 22,5% ~ 787.500 MYO 8. Istagram Campagn 5% ~ 175.000 MYO 8. Youtube Campaign 5% ~ 175.000 MYO 9. Crypto Compare 2,5% ~ 87,500 MYO 10. Bonus Campaign 5% ~ 175.000 MYO
And now management, the company, the MYCRO prize team, cut each MYO campaign token into two, to be stolen to a partial mycro company and given to part participants, this is clearly cheating. Topik: 🔥 [BOUNTY] [IEO] [MYO] MYCRO JOBS PROGRAM BOUNTY http://archive.is/6aeaGMycro's main telegram: 1. https://t.me/mycrojobs2. https://t.me/simplemedikomThis, obviously a fraud, I want an opinion about the MYCRO JOBS BOUNTY PROGRAM, what the manager deserves, red paint.Manager: 1. HavucHamdi#
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October 02, 2019, 08:39:06 AM |
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I think someone participating in the campaign can start a type 3 flag as an agreement about the total number of bounty tokens to be paid was made earlier and broken by the bounty manager or at most the team. Also, no instructions about the requirements of the KYC were given before had, so that participants could decide before joining the campaign according to there convince, the sudden change does smells fishy. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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October 02, 2019, 08:58:02 AM |
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I am not a participant in their bounty program, but usually every time there is a change in allocations or rules the manager and the team will announce it to everyone. If the team and the manager don't do it, then they deserve the consequences. I think.
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YOSHIE (OP)
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October 02, 2019, 09:10:53 AM |
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I think someone participating in the campaign can start a type 3 flag as an agreement about the total number of bounty tokens to be paid was made earlier and broken by the bounty manager or at most the team.
Yes, i think so too. Flag 3, from the beginning there was no KYC agreement, even worse, KYC, had to take a link via telegram, not published in the topic mycro bounty, I think only a few participants saw the telegram and got the KYC link. This is different from other prizes, they try to fool all MYO tokens, and per kyc slice makes no sense, burdening the participants.
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October 02, 2019, 09:27:13 AM |
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For reference, here is the archived bounty thread https://archive.fo/6aeaGNote that this campaign started with a No KYC rule
I've been watching their telegram and I can share the reason for some of the points here. 1. The reduction in bounty pool was due to the fact that they ended their token sale early because of the market condition (according to them). New calculation of tokenmetrics We planned to sell 11% of all our tokens via IEO sales, and on Bitforex, we sold 2.8M of them. This means that 2.8M MYO becomes 11% of the whole token supply. The resulting new calculation of the tokenmetrics will be released for our community shortly. 2. The new bounty pool was supposedly around 1.2 Millio MYO based on the new token metrics but for some reason the bounty manager slashed it again into almost half. According to the team on telegram, they will take over the spreadsheet and make the necessary adjustment after the KYC. Another 1.2 million has already been allocated to those who successfully took part in our bounty campaign. We will revise the sheet after the KYC procedure
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October 02, 2019, 09:59:44 AM Last edit: October 02, 2019, 10:09:53 AM by aundroid Merited by suchmoon (4), YOSHIE (1), Bttzed03 (1) |
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To my knowledge 75% of the total supply was burned, the % for the Bounty campaign remained the same. Here the tokenomics before and after the burn: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fr0jmAcL.jpg&t=665&c=MryEi6WU20TzlA) [source: https://www.mycrojobs.io/blog/mycros-new-token-metrics] For the subsequently introduced KYC I also wanted to create a scam-accusation.First, it was claimed that the German law requires KYC. Which, by the way, is complete nonsense. ["We are a German company and have to abide the law"] ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGz7ttoN.jpg&t=665&c=yhceAAv8maYUxQ) [source: https://t.me/mycrojobsbounty/15539] Thereupon I wanted them to present the legal text to me, which specifies a KYC procedure for the distribution of a utility token to bounty participants. Unfortunately the Bounty Manager has deleted our private chat history (and I did not export the history before ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) ) Now they say: Their legal department wants KYC and "to ensure that no MYO end up with fraudsters" Shouldn't that be the job of a bounty manager? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYowhuLt.jpg&t=665&c=5NwcNw5GtUD86A) [source: https://t.me/mycrojobs/34169] I took part in the signature campaign and 'No KYC' was a decisive reason for me to participate in the campaign at all. But that's not all.The team always talked about using a reputable KYC provider and that our sensitive data is in good hands. (see screenshot above) and now they' re giving us a Google form? Seriously, which reputable KYC provider collects the data via a Google form? Edit: And according to the team, tokens that would have been assigned to a scammer will not be distributed amongst all legit participants. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fgbfw869.jpg&t=665&c=Sh80LHuYynTdtg) Looks to me like they're just introducing KYC to pay less.
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October 02, 2019, 10:11:10 AM |
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I took part in the signature campaign and 'No KYC' was a decisive reason for me to participate in the campaign at all.
This is an good example of what I said earlier, many ( most of the ) participants would have joined the campaign by taking into consideration there own anonymity, and changing such an based rule of "NO KYC" to "KYC REQUIRED" is not a acceptable change. Seriously, which reputable KYC provider collects the data via a Google form?
No one legitimate would do this, its straight away an attempt of grabbing people's personal info by giving them a fake sense of security. Using google form is just out of the box and of course risky !
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October 02, 2019, 10:14:26 AM Last edit: October 02, 2019, 10:27:39 AM by Bttzed03 |
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Thereupon I wanted them to present the legal text to me, which specifies a KYC procedure for the distribution of a utility token to bounty participants. Unfortunately the Bounty Manager has deleted our private chat history (and I did not export the history before ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) ) I once asked the team about the specific legal ground for the KYC but never got a response. Asking the team again now would also be useless and might get you banned because they want the chat to be free of bounty discussion. That bounty manager banned me a long time ago for questioning the longevity of the campaign ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) EDIT: And according to the team, tokens that would have been assigned to a scammer will not be distributed amongst all legit participants. ~~
Looks to me like they're just introducing KYC to pay less.
It looks like it. I was expecting them to reallocate tokens and pay more to legit participants until I saw your conversation with them.
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October 02, 2019, 11:29:20 AM |
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Only 3 days to pass KYC - they are insane. That is totally scam move. Their telegram channel is not with negative posts after KYC was introduced. I think that means only few people read pinned message and lots of participants soon will be disappointed/angry that they wont get anything.
And it is obviously a scam, because after kyc procedure they wont recalculate rewards.
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October 02, 2019, 04:05:16 PM |
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I did not really pay attention to this. apparently quite a lot of cheating they did. Only 3 days to pass KYC
FYI - I saw the telegram channel and they have started KYC since September 30th, I think this is the last day to do KYC, and I think there are enough people who have done KYC to get their rewards. it's quite sad considering this is a bounty that ran for 1 year. I'm sure many are willing to do KYC to get their rewards even though the allocation is cut so big.
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There's another Mycro scam accusation raised almost two weeks ago but the OP must have decided to drop it already. Too many shady activities done by this team based on what's being presented here. Where will the tokens originally computed for supposed cheaters go? It won't go the the participants who will pass KYC so are they going to be burned?
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Yeah, aundroid brought it up in the German section and the shitcoin devs are obviously misinformed or clearly lying to scam their bounty participants. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) There is no law in Germany that KYC is enforced for tiny amounts of shitcoins and their response is so poor that they can't show the law and instead deleting evidence for their scam. I did some research (round about 15 minutes) and found obvious proof that the "lawyers" are completely misinformed (or not existing): Regierungsplan: Deutsche sollen Gold nur noch bis 2000 Euro anonym bekommen
Der Gesetzesentwurf soll zum 10. Januar 2020 in Kraft treten und geltende EU-Richtlinien zur Geldwäsche (Geldwäschegesetz) umsetzen. Hintergrund ist der verstärkte Kampf der EU gegen Geldwäsche und Finanzierung von Terroristen. Die Richtlinie (EU) 2018/843 umfasst diverse Maßnahmen, entsprechend betrifft auch der Referentenentwurf des deutschen Finanzministeriums neben dem Goldmarkt Bereiche wie die Immobilienbranche, das Glücksspiel, den Kunstmarkt oder die Kryptogeld-Branche. Sie alle gelten als besonders anfällig für Geldwäsche. Source: Regierungsplan: Deutsche sollen Gold nur noch bis 2000 Euro anonym bekommenTranslation: Government plan: Germans are allowed to receive gold only up to 2000 euros anonymously
The law could get enforced on 10 January 2020 and implement EU directives on money laundering (Money Laundering Act). The background is the EU's increased fight against money laundering and terrorist financing. The Directive (EU) 2018/843 includes various measures, accordingly, the draft bill of the German Ministry of Finance in addition to the gold market areas such as the real estate industry, gambling, the art market or the crypto industry. They are all considered particularly vulnerable to money laundering. So in fact, right now it's even allowed to buy gold (and other mentioned goods) anonymously up to 10,000€ without KYC in Germany and in 2020 the limits will go down to 2,000€ for purchases without KYC. Conclusion: German law only requires KYC for large amounts of money. I see a clear intention of MYCRO team to scam bounty participants here.
I would like to support your flag but I don't know how the bounty manager is related to the scammers. If he's part of the team and not hired independently he deserves a tag and a scammer flag. Is it known in which way he's related to the team?
There's another Mycro scam accusation raised almost two weeks ago but the OP must have decided to drop it already.
Or he's fed up from all the scammers and doesn't want to waste more time with it catching them. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I would like to support your flag but I don't know how the bounty manager is related to the scammers. If he's part of the team and not hired independently he deserves a tag and a scammer flag. Is it known in which way he's related to the team?
HavucHamdi #, a team / member of Thomas Miller, @Thomas Miller, he is a mycro manager, and a derector of the mycro company. I once contacted him. A few weeks ago. But: Unfortunately it did not go smoothly, Thomas, it ran away. My conversation.![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2Fa5a0.jpg&t=665&c=IDeL6fuFnPvCkQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2F9bee.jpg&t=665&c=owUSdJjeV4jJKQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2F8ef3.jpg&t=665&c=1eCJuWGhsolTZw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2F3f96.jpg&t=665&c=2SgxEBJyZZyLbw) Havuc Hamdi #, an independent manager, who manages the mycro bounty, indicated by Thomas. And he is active 3 weeks to renew the bounty that he manages.Logic, Where there is an active manager every three weeks in managing the campaign. Except, it's an insider / close person.
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This is one of the problems always experienced by most bounty hunters after doing some really long campaigns with no assurance of payment at all and the most unfortunate they will changed the rules requires KYC and modify the reward on the final day, what a shame to this project owners this bounty managers and project owners who are responsible to pay hunters must be tagged/flagged so that in the future hunters will avoid them and to all hunters out there I hope this will be a lesson for all of us dont ever join campaigns managed by random accounts in this forum select campaigns managed by experienced and trusted bounty managers and to all BM please escrow the bounty tokens first before starting a campaign for transparency and to avoid cheating its your responsibility afterall.
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Sadly, the KYC form is aldeady closed. It was open in the middle of a day September 30, and got closed October 2, 22:20. Less than 3 days...
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Sadly, the KYC form is aldeady closed. It was open in the middle of a day September 30, and got closed October 2, 22:20. Less than 3 days...
Were you part of the campaign? They were rushing to meet the set date for distribution which was kind of funny to me when the campaign ran for 51 weeks. They are ignoring the community now after they got what they wanted. I even asked them to allow submission for at least 10 days. No response from them as usual.
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Also, no instructions about the requirements of the KYC were given before had, so that participants could decide before joining the campaign according to there convince, the sudden change does smells fishy. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Yep, and we've seen that before. Adding a KYC requirement right at the end, along with a rule about not faking documents is probably done by the devs (or campaign manager) to shake out some of the participants and thus keep more of the money for themselves. I have no issue with KYC in bounties per se, but they need to state that it's required up front when the bounty starts. They know how big a deal it is for people in the crypto community and that a lot of participants can't or won't give up their dox--you can't trust an ICO team not to sell those dox to even shadier folks on the darkweb. They are ignoring the community now after they got what they wanted.
Of course they are. That's always the final step of the scam, suppressing dissent or just not acknowledging the people who they made promises to and who helped them advertise their scam project. It never changes.
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Apparently, they were the Mycro team that was more suspicious than I thought, all the participants wanted to break the neck of the Mycro team, with KYC already closed, before the time came. What's worse, my Telegram was also blocked by the Mycro team, so that I was cut off from communication with them. The most ridiculous Mycro company that exists today. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEfWuyTz.jpg&t=665&c=_s-mIii9gOuxXQ) Is there a Mycro team here, a bitcointalk account, I challenge you, I invite you here. Don't be like: coward, loser, con artist.I'm not fighting for me, it's for the sake of the crowd, see people who promote your silly ads in 52 weeks without the rewards they get.
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Sadly, the KYC form is aldeady closed. It was open in the middle of a day September 30, and got closed October 2, 22:20. Less than 3 days...
Were you part of the campaign? I havent participates in campaign, but saved it to favourites and checked their social media peofiles from time to time. Was intending to change my signature to Mycro, as lots of forum members had it. Now I see such a scam act from the team. Joined their telegram for news, and only see how people are angry with kyc... I cant imagine how people feel after wasting 51 weeks on them...
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I would like to support your flag but I don't know how the bounty manager is related to the scammers. If he's part of the team and not hired independently he deserves a tag and a scammer flag. Is it known in which way he's related to the team?
HavucHamdi #, a team / member of Thomas Miller, @Thomas Miller, he is a mycro manager, and a derector of the mycro company. I once contacted him. A few weeks ago. But: Unfortunately it did not go smoothly, Thomas, it ran away. I get you 100% that the devs are scammers and deserve a red tag if they would have an account here. I would give it right away. But my problem is that I have difficulties in supporting the flag against the independent bounty manager who seems to be hired by the scammers. If I start tagging him as an independent bounty manager I would have to tag all other bounty managers where a bounty turned out to be a KYC-scam. So for supporting the flag I need a very strong proof that the bounty manager is a part of the team and involved in the scam by supporting it. Maybe that's also the reason why your flag hasn't sufficient support yet because the manager seems to be related to them but not with final proof. I checked his profile and he managed also some other campaigns before.
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