Bitcointalk.org collectible coin ideas & vote

[tranthidung]

In my opinion, I think 300 collectible coins in total are enough. Let's me explain why I choose that figure.

(1) 50 or 100 coins are very limited, and the forum has so many prominent users as well as staffs. The limitation on 50 or 100 will prevent good users to get them. If we look at BPIP, most merited profile page, most of users in top 50 or even in top 100 are very prominent users. There are very little new users get spots in top-50 or top-100.
(2) 300 will give opportunities to good users, who have been here long enough to have significant contributions, but neighther have had long history enough nor significant contributions to be competitive compared to extremely prominent users and staffs.
(3) Such collectible coins (if new users can get) will play as good proof of motivation, and newbies will be inspired from it.
Newbies are sources of future growth of the forum. Let's give them motivation.

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[johhnyUA]

My vote:

300 funded coins. And even they will be distributed to active forum members I think it's would be fair that coins will be paid by user. And I don't know why forum should give perconalized certificate, with shipping data it's a good way to deanon someone :0 Other questions it's not important to much for me.

I would love to see some Legendary set of coins with holograms of avatars of some of the oldest accounts.
Like a bitcointalk history set.

I had an idea to make a set of plaing cards with some of the established members' avatars, but again lack or time is what stopped me.

I doubt it's good idea, for honest. Most really famous users don't have avatars (LZ, gmaxwell, satoshi and others) and pepople who have them mostly well known in english board. Not even in all boards.  So, if you don't want to get (for example) coin with my avatar and think something like "Who the fuck is this" then it's not a good idea for sure.

[ChiBitCTy]

I definitely love the idea of a forum coin. Back when Satori was still making chips/coins, Hhampuz who had done several group buys for the collectibles board/community had been in touch with them about producing a custom chip/coin for the community. Unfortunately right as we started to get serious about making it happen, Satori closed shop. However we came up with some ideas for it that I think could be applied here..such as having a design competition.

I would absolutely love it if Casascius, Smoothie (Lealana), or Kialara would be interested in taking on this project, however I can tell you the likelihood of that happening is slim to none. I think having either an active maker or someone who’s willing to take on the project (with a strong background in crypto coins or coins in general) as well as winning a design competition would be a cool and fair way to chose whom is to make the coin.

As for whether the coin is loaded or not..I would highly recommend we try and make it a loaded piece. There are ways around producing and selling a loaded coin in which you’re not breaking any laws or acting as a money transaction service without a license  (breaking FinCEN regulation like what Casascius ran in to).

I voted for 300 coins. I know there’s likely 100 of us in the collectibles sub who’d want a coin, and it would sure be a shame if the hardcore collectors like us would not get a chance at grabbing one. If the forum paid for it that would obviously be amazing. I wouldn’t mind paying for a coin however ( plus this might be more feasible   ).

If we do end up running a competition I’d like to throw my hat in the ring..however I’d much prefer if Casacius, Lealana or Kialara took the reigns, but again, HIGHLY unlikely imo.

Thanks for bringing this to life!

[yogg]

I'm watching this thread with interest.

We, at Coldkey, will definitely make something for the community that we cherish the most.
Unfortunately, it will not be in the form of a coin. But still, much collectible and very dedicated to the anniversary of Bitcointalk.
10 years should be commemorated ! It's a huge milestone.

We already have our plan and roadmap for this particular release.
If there are some tweaks that come up here and that we haven't thought of, we will be happy to enhance our offer further on.

[Welsh]

In my opinion, I think 300 collectible coins in total are enough. Let's me explain why I choose that figure.

(1) 50 or 100 coins are very limited, and the forum has so many prominent users as well as staffs. The limitation on 50 or 100 will prevent good users to get them. If we look at BPIP, most merited profile page, most of users in top 50 or even in top 100 are very prominent users. There are very little new users get spots in top-50 or top-100.
(2) 300 will give opportunities to good users, who have been here long enough to have significant contributions, but neighther have had long history enough nor significant contributions to be competitive compared to extremely prominent users and staffs.
(3) Such collectible coins (if new users can get) will play as good proof of motivation, and newbies will be inspired from it.

Looking at the poll result no one wants it as limited as 50 coins, and I can understand that. Although, about the idea with newbies earning these coins I don't think that's what purpose these coins are suppose to represent. I think the plaque idea of earned merit could be more suitable for that.

And limit of 300??  there are thousands of forum members......

They're meant to be rewarded to users who have contributed greatly to the forum while also going to active users. Therefore, it would seem unfair to give these to users who are just established etc. I feel anyone who has contributed greatly to the forum or who is an historical figure on the forum should get a coin.

And I don't know why forum should give perconalized certificate, with shipping data it's a good way to deanon someone :0 Other questions it's not important to much for me.

If I can find a manufacturer which is willing to ship the products direct at least I won't have to deal with shipping issues. Ideally, I don't want to be handling the delivery information or the process. Personal certificates would likely be appointed to usernames rather than names though. Upon receiving their items users could then show off their items without exposing their identity.

I think this is the biggest issue considering the nature of Bitcoin, and I feel like a lot of prominent users on the forum won't want to give out their information, and then the whole project falls flat on its face as our 1st, 2nd, 3rd choices of users might not want the coins, because of the mentioned issues.

[MoparMiningLLC]

In my opinion, I think 300 collectible coins in total are enough. Let's me explain why I choose that figure.

(1) 50 or 100 coins are very limited, and the forum has so many prominent users as well as staffs. The limitation on 50 or 100 will prevent good users to get them. If we look at BPIP, most merited profile page, most of users in top 50 or even in top 100 are very prominent users. There are very little new users get spots in top-50 or top-100.
(2) 300 will give opportunities to good users, who have been here long enough to have significant contributions, but neighther have had long history enough nor significant contributions to be competitive compared to extremely prominent users and staffs.
(3) Such collectible coins (if new users can get) will play as good proof of motivation, and newbies will be inspired from it.

Looking at the poll result no one wants it as limited as 50 coins, and I can understand that. Although, about the idea with newbies earning these coins I don't think that's what purpose these coins are suppose to represent. I think the plaque idea of earned merit could be more suitable for that.

And limit of 300??  there are thousands of forum members......

They're meant to be rewarded to users who have contributed greatly to the forum while also going to active users. Therefore, it would seem unfair to give these to users who are just established etc. I feel anyone who has contributed greatly to the forum or who is an historical figure on the forum should get a coin.

And I don't know why forum should give perconalized certificate, with shipping data it's a good way to deanon someone :0 Other questions it's not important to much for me.

If I can find a manufacturer which is willing to ship the products direct at least I won't have to deal with shipping issues. Ideally, I don't want to be handling the delivery information or the process. Personal certificates would likely be appointed to usernames rather than names though. Upon receiving their items users could then show off their items without exposing their identity.

I think this is the biggest issue considering the nature of Bitcoin, and I feel like a lot of prominent users on the forum won't want to give out their information, and then the whole project falls flat on its face as our 1st, 2nd, 3rd choices of users might not want the coins, because of the mentioned issues.

well from reading the above, this pretty much rules out anyone that has joined in the past few years as I get the feeling those of us that have been around since 2017/2018 are not to be considered as being able to get one of these.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

They're meant to be rewarded to users who have contributed greatly to the forum while also going to active users. Therefore, it would seem unfair to give these to users who are just established etc. I feel anyone who has contributed greatly to the forum or who is an historical figure on the forum should get a coin.

I don't think I'm anywhere near a historical figure on the forum, but I am active and if by any chance I was in the running to receive a coin, I would be grateful forever.  Bitcointalk means a lot to me, as do things like the Zepher coin and the silver skull I bought that he owned, and the bitcoin pennies I got from minerjones.  I'd even be more than willing to pay for a coin if the price was reasonable (I don't have a lot of discretionary income right now).

As far as who should manufacture such a thing, I have to tap out on that debate.  The Collectibles section gurus know a hell of a lot more about who would make a quality coin than I would.  I do have faith that if these ever get minted, they'll be well-done and choice collectibles for those who are passionate about the forum.

I like the idea of funded ones but would buy one unfunded as well.

I certainly would like to see them funded, and if I were to get one I'd pay for the funding, again depending on the amount.  And if they were to be unfunded I'd be completely cool with that as well.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that to give opportunity for those new members who do not have much history in the forum, and want to obtain currency, a Merit Contest can be established, where a low percentage of coins is given as awards, this would put in context that they can actually demonstrate quality and deserve the currency, being an incentive for them, in this way the whole forum would have participation in general and  would avoid claims in the future.

[gentlemand]

I don't think I'm anywhere near a historical figure on the forum, but I am active and if by any chance I was in the running to receive a coin, I would be grateful forever. 

Quite a few of the truly legendary figures have disappeared or gone mad. It would be quite the grind to decide who's in and who's out. I myself have contributed nothing to Bitcoin itself other than a bunch of knob gags and spending too much of it.

I've been around for a long time. That doesn't make me of any use to anyone.

[tranthidung]

Although, about the idea with newbies earning these coins I don't think that's what purpose these coins are suppose to represent. I think the plaque idea of earned merit could be more suitable for that.

I did not mean about real newbies who are at newbie rank. I consider myself as a newbie compare to older users. Newbies in my post above are users who stay at high ranks, maybe from Senior member and above ranks, and have good contributions that partially shown via their earned merits. They have long period in the forum, long enough to see how they contributed over years (around 2 years, like me, is long enough).

[yogg]

Thank you everyone for the ideas that are emitted here.
Still working on this, but shall be released soon. (This week)

I certainly would like to see them funded, and if I were to get one I'd pay for the funding, again depending on the amount.  And if they were to be unfunded I'd be completely cool with that as well.

There can be both versions, the only thing that would change is the denomination on the item.
What denomination would be suitable in your opinion ?
0.001337BTC ?

I think this is the biggest issue considering the nature of Bitcoin, and I feel like a lot of prominent users on the forum won't want to give out their information, and then the whole project falls flat on its face as our 1st, 2nd, 3rd choices of users might not want the coins, because of the mentioned issues.

True that, this is a concern.
Hence this is why we are now using a fully automated shop on our website to handle the sales.
Doing so, there is no identity that is linked to some specific bitcointalk profile.
(if you use basic OP sec, like "not have your username in your email address", etc..)


I think that this release should not be limited in quantity, but in availability, time-wise.
We want the most users to be able to grab one and spread the party and the event.
We will make it less expensive than our current products line, but our prices are already in the low category and we cannot really go much lower.

[hugeblack]

What do you think of some ideas that resemble YouTube shields that give some users a counterpart for their participation in the forum.
Shields consist of several shapes of silver, gold, and diamond so with a private key containing some coins.
The prize is worth 10 Bitcoin.

[cabalism13]

Thank you everyone for the ideas that are emitted here.
Still working on this, but shall be released soon. (This week)

I was curious, are we really going to go for 'paid by users' per coin? If yes, how much would it cost? Does it includes the shipment fees? Or are we gonna pay for it also? (P. S. I don't mind paying, but just want to know how much would be the cost)

[actmyname]

I think this is the biggest issue considering the nature of Bitcoin, and I feel like a lot of prominent users on the forum won't want to give out their information, and then the whole project falls flat on its face as our 1st, 2nd, 3rd choices of users might not want the coins, because of the mentioned issues.

I had previously talked to some users about the logistics of this... If post offices started using GPG then we could essentially have a shipper to receiver end-to-end encrypted passage.

Quite a few of the truly legendary figures have disappeared or gone mad. It would be quite the grind to decide who's in and who's out. I myself have contributed nothing to Bitcoin itself other than a bunch of knob gags and spending too much of it.

Right... age != contribution especially when you look back at the still-spamming account farmers.

[Thekool1s]

Community poll for the design, democracy is most of the time is a good idea

More like mob rule! Or are we going to elect the "Puppets" who will vote on our behalf? Speaking of democracy, why limit it at all? We should open up a shop and let everyone buy one for a limited period of time I will be damn pissed if I don't get 1 even tho I haven't contributed shit to the forum...

[Welsh]

I've had one manufacturer out of all of those contacted state that they'll get back to me. I'm presuming they'll take this back to the office, and decide whether they can fit it along with some of their other projects.  Hopefully, they come back to me with some good news, and we can then discuss it a little more specifically. For me, its a great project to be involved in, and should appeal to manufacturers if not for being part of Bitcoin, and Bitcointalk history, but the marketing benefits that come associated with that. 

Also, from a manufactures point of view these coins are a guaranteed sale, and therefore profit to them. We'll be able to find 300 users willing to pay for the coins if we take a look at the votes, and if they can give us a good price potentially covered by a crowdfund sort of situation between a few users passionate about Bitcointalk.org

Right... age != contribution especially when you look back at the still-spamming account farmers.

I assure you being an old user, and that fact alone isn't going to net you one of these coins if this project does become a reality.

I had previously talked to some users about the logistics of this... If post offices started using GPG then we could essentially have a shipper to receiver end-to-end encrypted passage.

That's an interesting idea not only for a project like this, but in general. 

More like mob rule! Or are we going to elect the "Puppets" who will vote on our behalf? Speaking of democracy, why limit it at all? We should open up a shop and let everyone buy one for a limited period of time I will be damn pissed if I don't get 1 even tho I haven't contributed shit to the forum...

Trying to stick to what the community wants, and what theymos would be likely to put the official name on it if it was deemed good enough is fairly difficult. This is also partly the reason why I don't want to be the one picking the users to get coins. I'm trying to think of a unbiased way of going about that.

[transvestite lamb]

What denomination would be suitable in your opinion ?
0.001337BTC ?

0.0042069

[teeGUMES]

Funded by an address known and owned by theymos/bitcointalk forum would be fairly meaningful.

[gentlemand]

Funded by an address known and owned by theymos/bitcointalk forum would be fairly meaningful.

Pah. It's got to be funded from the Genesis block or nothing. I don't care if that block is unspendable. They'll just have to unstick it. And nominated descendants should be guaranteed dust from the very final block ever mined in 2140.

[Vod]

Let me know if you need any statistical help deciding who gets their coins subsidized!