Bitcointalk.org collectible coin ideas & vote

[Halab]

Friendly bump, don't ban me

I don't want to put pressure on you Welsh, but has the project made any progress ?

[GazetaBitcoin]

Hehe I was thinking also about this topic lately.

Well, as the 10th anniversary already passed, maybe he is thinking to do this for a future anniversary. Maybe the 20th one?

[...] the more time that goes along the more unlikely this will be to happen. Although, you can bet your buck that I'll be wanting to help organize the 20th anniversary one with a little more time to plan, and get things done.

And about users's concerns for shipping (see the above replies), there are good news, as theymos came with a good idea.

It is currently tested by mocacinno. If things go well, maybe Welsh can use it too.

[ChiBitCTy]

Friendly bump, don't ban me

I don't want to put pressure on you Welsh, but has the project made any progress ?

I know Welsh was excited to do this project (& theymos want's this to come to fruition)..if it hasn't been mentioned ..I'm guessing theymos might even post a coin sale Ad on the front page for a week or so, unless this will be limited of course.

Us nerds in collectibles got ya all covered either way.. let me know if I can be of any help Welsh.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Bumping this to keep up the good spirit and hope for this endeavor will come to success.
... and of course we want an update....

[Sandra_hakeem]

I'm happy to realize that an idea of this nature was planned. Atleast it has some certainty et possibility for a second trail.
20th anniversary? I pray we stick together cus certainly, again, Hades' may screw some six-deeper.

^{unless yunno the better.}

Sandra 👩‍🦱

[aoluain]

Whatever happened to this idea?
From reading Welsh's posts here it seems like there was trouble getting it manufactured.

It might be nice to get it restarted for a 15th anniversary.

If I could make a suggestion of making contact with MrCryptHodl if it comes to pass that
the project is resurrected. He is very active making coins or at least releasing coin projects
and he may be able to help!

[Welsh]

Whatever happened to this idea?
From reading Welsh's posts here it seems like there was trouble getting it manufactured.

It might be nice to get it restarted for a 15th anniversary.

If I could make a suggestion of making contact with MrCryptHodl if it comes to pass that
the project is resurrected. He is very active making coins or at least releasing coin projects
and he may be able to help!

Yeah, finding someone willing to do it, with the required quantity was difficult. I can't remember all the specifics now, but I imagine theymos had similar concerns when thinking it up. If it was ever to be done, I'd think a 20th anniversary would be more fitting. However, it would probably need to be organised well in advance, since last time we didn't really give the manufacturers much notice to actualy be able to do it in the required timescale.

I wouldn't say it's completely off the table, but I imagine theymos will have cooked up an idea for the 20th too. If we find a manufacturer the whole process could go pretty smoothly giving it's done in time. So, if anyone knows of anyone then they can give me a message. I like the idea, but there's also the issue of sending it. Since, in the past there's been a ton of competitions with physical prizes, but the majority pass on it. So, I can't imagine there would be a ton of users here willing to give up their personal details, which is absolutely fine, and probably a good idea. However, it kind of defeats the point of giving a collectible coin to specific users, since you'd need multiple back up plans. The list would probably be as long as my arm.

I think I was more naive, and hopeful last time out, plus this is something that should be given a lot of thought before implementing it. So, in a way I'm kind of glad that I didn't find a manufacturer. Although, if something can be thought up to mitigate the above issues, I'd still be interested in doing something along these lines.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Glad you bumped this thread, bro!  I remember it when it was started, and this is part of what I had to say at the time:

Bitcointalk means a lot to me, as do things like the Zepher coin and the silver skull I bought that he owned, and the bitcoin pennies I got from minerjones.  I'd even be more than willing to pay for a coin if the price was reasonable (I don't have a lot of discretionary income right now).

In 2022, all of those things I mentioned above still hold meaning to me and I still have them all.  In fact, I was just looking at the Zepher pennies about a half hour ago by coincidence.  Minerjones was gracious enough to send me some capsules, so I keep them all encapsulated and in a dollar coin tube.

Whatever happened to this idea?
From reading Welsh's posts here it seems like there was trouble getting it manufactured.

Yeah, wow!  I think I tuned out after I saw Theymos's first reply and then the back-and-forth between members who could get a project like this done--at that point I realized there was nothing constructive I could possibly add.

I will say that I'd love to see this come to fruition, and it doesn't matter if the coins are giveaways or for sale.  Like I said in 2019, I'd be happy to buy one.  There aren't any bitcointalk collectibles out there that come to mind, and I think there's a need for one like this.

[OgNasty]

Whatever happened to this idea?
From reading Welsh's posts here it seems like there was trouble getting it manufactured.

It might be nice to get it restarted for a 15th anniversary.

If I could make a suggestion of making contact with MrCryptHodl if it comes to pass that
the project is resurrected. He is very active making coins or at least releasing coin projects
and he may be able to help!

Yeah, finding someone willing to do it, with the required quantity was difficult. I can't remember all the specifics now, but I imagine theymos had similar concerns when thinking it up. If it was ever to be done, I'd think a 20th anniversary would be more fitting. However, it would probably need to be organised well in advance, since last time we didn't really give the manufacturers much notice to actualy be able to do it in the required timescale.

I wouldn't say it's completely off the table, but I imagine theymos will have cooked up an idea for the 20th too. If we find a manufacturer the whole process could go pretty smoothly giving it's done in time. So, if anyone knows of anyone then they can give me a message. I like the idea, but there's also the issue of sending it. Since, in the past there's been a ton of competitions with physical prizes, but the majority pass on it. So, I can't imagine there would be a ton of users here willing to give up their personal details, which is absolutely fine, and probably a good idea. However, it kind of defeats the point of giving a collectible coin to specific users, since you'd need multiple back up plans. The list would probably be as long as my arm.

I think I was more naive, and hopeful last time out, plus this is something that should be given a lot of thought before implementing it. So, in a way I'm kind of glad that I didn't find a manufacturer. Although, if something can be thought up to mitigate the above issues, I'd still be interested in doing something along these lines.

I don't think it's really an issue with time or anything like that.  I could bring a coin from idea to shipping in under 90 days without much effort.  I could probably do it in 60 days if people had designs ready.  Once you have an established process and the right contacts, it's really not difficult.  I think it's a farce that coinmakers need a long preparation time.  Typically when I see claims of coins taking a long time, it's because the coinmaker took preorders in BTC hoping they'd make money on the exchange rate, and then the rate went down leaving them holding the bag with not enough money to pay for the manufacturing.  So they make excuses and hope people believe them.  There are multiple coin projects going on right now in the Collectibles section where makers are giving excuses while they try to figure out how to move forward without losing a ton of money on their gamble to take preorders in BTC.  

In short, it wouldn't be difficult to get this coin made now and in people's Christmas stockings.  The issue is that nobody wants to pay for it and there's no design.

[GazetaBitcoin]

If I could make a suggestion of making contact with MrCryptHodl if it comes to pass that
the project is resurrected. He is very active making coins or at least releasing coin projects
and he may be able to help!

With all due respect to MrCryptHodl and other manufacturers, I believe that no other coin can have the reputation of (in this order) Casascius, Lealana or Kialara. These were also Welsh's suggestions from OP, if you take a look. And, for such an emblematic event, like a 15th or a 20th anniversary, a special coin is needed, if the idea gets traction...

Everybody can print a coin at a 3D printer. But it's something to have a Casascius coin, as example, compared to a coin made by me or by you...

Yeah, finding someone willing to do it, with the required quantity was difficult. I can't remember all the specifics now, but I imagine theymos had similar concerns when thinking it up. If it was ever to be done, I'd think a 20th anniversary would be more fitting. However, it would probably need to be organised well in advance, since last time we didn't really give the manufacturers much notice to actualy be able to do it in the required timescale.

Welsh, by seeing how many users keep asking for these collectible coins, perhaps it would be time to talk to theymos about this subject... Maybe there is a chance to have this on the 15th anniversary... maybe for the 20th... but if he (you two) decide it could be done for the 15th anniversary, there is enough time to do it... There are still 2 years until then. I remember that on the 10th anniversary you started working on this idea with about 10 months before the event, and that amount of time was not enough. Perhaps two years would suffice...?

I wouldn't say it's completely off the table, but I imagine theymos will have cooked up an idea for the 20th too.

This is also what I had in mind: considering that, most likely, theymos would come with a fabulous idea for the 20th anniversary, perhaps the idea with a collectible coin can come to fruition for the 15th...?

If we find a manufacturer the whole process could go pretty smoothly giving it's done in time. So, if anyone knows of anyone then they can give me a message.

I am still thinking that one of these three manufacturers should be chosen: Casasciuns, Smoothie (Lealana) or Kialara. And, if possible, Casascius... If you want I can try to ping them and see if they would be interested in this event and also offer us some information about necessary time, costs etc.

I like the idea, but there's also the issue of sending it. Since, in the past there's been a ton of competitions with physical prizes, but the majority pass on it. So, I can't imagine there would be a ton of users here willing to give up their personal details, which is absolutely fine, and probably a good idea. However, it kind of defeats the point of giving a collectible coin to specific users, since you'd need multiple back up plans. The list would probably be as long as my arm.

I already addressed this issue once... Can't we use theymos' method for shipping?

Additionally, krogoth also has a method, using privnote.com. I did not study it very well, but I think we can do something also about the shipping method.

In the end, I think there are much more users willing to own such a coin, than the ones not willing to, therefore, for this reason, I believe that the idea of such a collectible coin should not be abandoned.

[aoluain]

I will say that I'd love to see this come to fruition, and it doesn't matter if the coins are giveaways or for sale.  Like I said in 2019, I'd be happy to buy one.  There aren't any bitcointalk collectibles out there that come to mind, and I think there's a need for one like this.

I don't think it should be a giveaway but a 'not for profit' project would be a possible idea
and having it as a limited edition would increase the demand so Welsh or whomever
wouldn't be left with surplus coins.

Additionally, krogoth also has a method, using privnote.com. I did not study it very well, but I think we can do something also about the shipping method.

In the end, I think there are much more users willing to own such a coin, than the ones not willing to, therefore, for this reason, I believe that the idea of such a collectible coin should not be abandoned.

Over in the Collectibles board everyone is encouraged to use Privnote.com to share an address
when buying items.

And I think there are a lot of members who would like to see this through.

Would it be an idea to move this thread to the Collectibles board? or maybe start a new one there
when it's decided on the project being started up again?

[GazetaBitcoin]

Over in the Collectibles board everyone is encouraged to use Privnote.com to share an address
when buying items.

Then we have already a tested (and working) option...

And I think there are a lot of members who would like to see this through.

Yes, there are certainly very many which would appreciate such a special coin.

Would it be an idea to move this thread to the Collectibles board? or maybe start a new one there
when it's decided on the project being started up again?

No, this thread certainly does not belong there, as it's not a simple raffle, nor an ordinary giveaway. This is an event concerning an important date for the forum, which regards all its users, therefore it belongs to Meta. It's not a simple user offering a (more or less) particular collectible item. It is a special moment, concerning forum's 15th (or 20th?) anniversary...

Furthermore, if you remember 10th anniversary art contest, theymos also posted it in Meta, not in a particular board, no matter that, among other prizes, he also offered prizes in BTC. Would you have expected that topic to be posted in Games and rounds board?

[Welsh]

Welsh, by seeing how many users keep asking for these collectible coins, perhaps it would be time to talk to theymos about this subject... Maybe there is a chance to have this on the 15th anniversary... maybe for the 20th... but if he (you two) decide it could be done for the 15th anniversary, there is enough time to do it... There are still 2 years until then. I remember that on the 10th anniversary you started working on this idea with about 10 months before the event, and that amount of time was not enough. Perhaps two years would suffice...?

I'm assuming theymos had good reason to abandon the idea in the first place. Although, I imagine theymos could potentially pick this up again in the future if they deem it appropriate to do so. They've definitely got the pulling power that someone like myself wouldn't have. I just liked the idea, and thought it would be cool like everyone else. However, I'm not very involved in the collectibles section, so having the contacts like OgNasty mentioned just wasn't there. Maybe, that's something that could be established by the time the 20th anniversary comes though.

I am still thinking that one of these three manufacturers should be chosen: Casasciuns, Smoothie (Lealana) or Kialara. And, if possible, Casascius... If you want I can try to ping them and see if they would be interested in this event and also offer us some information about necessary time, costs etc.

I did contact some of these, but some of them never got back to me. I believe I remember vaguely one getting back to me, but that burned out pretty quickly. Forgive me for not remembering specifics, I've slept since then .

I may have the message still, but may have deleted it since.

In the end, I think there are much more users willing to own such a coin, than the ones not willing to, therefore, for this reason, I believe that the idea of such a collectible coin should not be abandoned.

I'd like to think so, but these sort of ideas always get a lot of attention, and then when it comes to fruition that interest dies down simply because of the privacy issues. I personally, wouldn't even like to receive the data, and would probably want the manufacturer to handle shipping, but then that introduces its own concerns.

This is why I said earlier that I'm kind of glad it didn't work out, since I think this should be thoroughly planned instead of being rushed. Have everything pinned down, actually get the numbers down on who would be interested, and what their concerns with the process would be. How to handle shipping etc. Ultimately, it's a coin for the community, and therefore the community should probably have a large influence on these specifics.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't think it should be a giveaway but a 'not for profit' project would be a possible idea
and having it as a limited edition would increase the demand so Welsh or whomever
wouldn't be left with surplus coins.

I would buy one, no questions asked (assuming I could afford it, and even then I'd most likely find a way to afford it); I'm not looking for a freebie.  I strongly think a 15 or 20-year anniversary coin or just a general bitcointalk commemorative coin ought to be made, because there are a lot of members to whom this forum means a great deal--and I'm one of those, and that's the reason I'd buy one.  It'd be for keeps, not for resale.

I am still thinking that one of these three manufacturers should be chosen: Casasciuns, Smoothie (Lealana) or Kialara. And, if possible, Casascius...

You all know I'm not a regular in the Collectibles section, and my knowledge of the creators of physical bitcoins and such is lacking, but I definitely recognize Casascius and Kialara as being top-notch.  Smoothie I recognize by name but not reputation--but in any case I agree that if a bitcointalk coin gets made it should be done right, and your suggestions are probably spot-on (with the sliver of uncertainty based on my aforementioned ignorance).

In the end, I think there are much more users willing to own such a coin, than the ones not willing to, therefore, for this reason, I believe that the idea of such a collectible coin should not be abandoned.

Agree(1000)^21million

[GazetaBitcoin]

I would buy one, no questions asked (assuming I could afford it, and even then I'd most likely find a way to afford it); I'm not looking for a freebie.  I strongly think a 15 or 20-year anniversary coin or just a general bitcointalk commemorative coin ought to be made, because there are a lot of members to whom this forum means a great deal--and I'm one of those, and that's the reason I'd buy one.  It'd be for keeps, not for resale.

True! I also share same thoughts here. Perhaps it would be a good idea -- if the collectible coin would be made -- to make a few coins which would be distributed through a raffle and some more, which can be bought... Thus, depending on the demand, more users could have the chance of owning such a precious gem.

You all know I'm not a regular in the Collectibles section, and my knowledge of the creators of physical bitcoins and such is lacking, but I definitely recognize Casascius and Kialara as being top-notch.  Smoothie I recognize by name but not reputation--but in any case I agree that if a bitcointalk coin gets made it should be done right, and your suggestions are probably spot-on (with the sliver of uncertainty based on my aforementioned ignorance).

No worry about lack of knowledge regarding coin manufacturers, nor about not being a regular of Collectible coins. I mentioned these names as (1) (almost) everybody would know them; (2) Welsh himself mentioned them in OP; (3) Casascius must be well know for everybody as being the very first BTC coin creator -- his reputation precedes him by far. I, for one, would love to have such coin created by Casascius. But it's not up to me... It's not even (only) up to theymos or Welsh, as Casascius should be also contacted (as well as the other two manufacturers). Everything also depends on their time, on their willing to be involved in such event... But it would be nice if things could be done this way...

In the end, I think there are much more users willing to own such a coin, than the ones not willing to, therefore, for this reason, I believe that the idea of such a collectible coin should not be abandoned.

Agree(1000)^21million

Perhaps, then, to wait for Welsh's input here...? Perhaps after he talks to theymos about this matter... I am willing to bring a hand of help, my any means, if the idea for such coin would be decided.

[Welsh]

If there's no official plans or other substantial community effort I'll likely revisit the idea, and determine how viable it is closer to the time. I think I'd be more interested in doing something like this for the 20th anniversary as opposed to the 15th though. No other reason than I think it's more significant, due to it being the second decade. Hence why I would've liked to seen something like it for the 10th anniversary.

I definitely wouldn't leave it so late, and I'd probably get the communities input once again well in advance. It would be properly planned, and thought out if I were to pick it up in the future.

All I can say for now, is hopefully . However, it's a little bit too soon at the moment.

[ChiBitCTy]

If there's no official plans or other substantial community effort I'll likely revisit the idea, and determine how viable it is closer to the time. I think I'd be more interested in doing something like this for the 20th anniversary as opposed to the 15th though. No other reason than I think it's more significant, due to it being the second decade. Hence why I would've liked to seen something like it for the 10th anniversary.

I definitely wouldn't leave it so late, and I'd probably get the communities input once again well in advance. It would be properly planned, and thought out if I were to pick it up in the future.

All I can say for now, is hopefully . However, it's a little bit too soon at the moment.

I hope we can make this come to life before the 20th anniversary.  I've got a lot of ideas and can certainly help out in any way needed.  Not sure if Casascius or Kialara would be interested.  I'm actually chatting w/Kialara right now, so I will send him this thread to see what he thinks.

[aoluain]

If there's no official plans or other substantial community effort I'll likely revisit the idea, and determine how viable it is closer to the time. I think I'd be more interested in doing something like this for the 20th anniversary as opposed to the 15th though. No other reason than I think it's more significant, due to it being the second decade. Hence why I would've liked to seen something like it for the 10th anniversary.

I definitely wouldn't leave it so late, and I'd probably get the communities input once again well in advance. It would be properly planned, and thought out if I were to pick it up in the future.

All I can say for now, is hopefully . However, it's a little bit too soon at the moment.

I hope we can make this come to life before the 20th anniversary.  I've got a lot of ideas and can certainly help out in any way needed.  Not sure if Casascius or Kialara would be interested.  I'm actually chatting w/Kialara right now, so I will send him this thread to see what he thinks.

Surely some maker like Kialara would be interested in getting on board with this, it should
be a very inviting project to work on and I think there is enough support already for something
to happen. I can only guess that as the project developed it will gain more interest.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I definitely wouldn't leave it so late, and I'd probably get the communities input once again well in advance. It would be properly planned, and thought out if I were to pick it up in the future.

All I can say for now, is hopefully . However, it's a little bit too soon at the moment.

No worry, this thread will certainly not go silent and it will remind you -- even if you'd forget -- about what we talked here. Just remember to keep an eye on it (or to check your name mentions). Indeed, if we talk about the 20th anniversary, we are too early now. But time flies...

Not sure if Casascius or Kialara would be interested.  I'm actually chatting w/Kialara right now, so I will send him this thread to see what he thinks.

Surely some maker like Kialara would be interested in getting on board with this, it should
be a very inviting project to work on [...]

Perhaps, another great thing would be -- and this idea just crossed my head now -- to have all three kind of coins (Casascius, Kialara and Lealana) distributed at 20th anniversary. That is, of course, if the manufacturers would like to be part of and if there can be made a deal with them. I guess that having most important coin manufacturers involved would give more chances to users to get a coin but also: it would also give more prestige to the event.

[aoluain]

^
That is a wild idea for sure, The collectibility of that set of coins from the triad of Bitcoin
coin makers would be enormous.

There is nothing to stop the coins being organised and minted well in advance of a 20th
anniversary and just released then! they could be ready in 2 3 years time, even next year and
held in storage for the commemoration!