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October 14, 2019, 12:26:06 PM
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Someone is say that 90% of CryptoTalk participants are very low-quality posters, and I agree with that.

I will not agree to this. If 90% of the cryptotalk participants are spammers then this campaign would have ended by now. No one will tolerate this much amount of spam. The fact is that there are good posters too here who are wearing this signature and with banning in place, it should keep the quality increasing.

There's nothing there to disagree with as the stats are openly available for everyone to see. The high quality posters aren't even upto 10% as majority of the current participants are spammers although that those not automatically mean the campaign will be shutdown anything soon since the campaign is been well managed by a campaign manager to reduce the level of spams to some extent.

The major reason the yobit campaign was banned was due to its lacked of moderation by a campaign manager but since the cryptotalk campaign has a manager and a reputed one for that matter I'm sure theymos is only giving @yahoo the opportunity to prove he can guide the campaign on the right track but if he fails to achieve that then the option of a signature ban might be the final answer. Stake Signature was also producing massive spam on the forum but the signature didn't receive a ban could be the same reason Cryptotalk campaign isn't recieving one that's, they're been managed on the forum.





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October 14, 2019, 04:26:34 PM
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From this thread => List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign to here. I've been reading quite a bit(for me at least). A lot of threads are very informative, that I've been missing out on, that even I may be a Sr. Member Rank of this forum but doesn't really pay attention to something like this, or rather choose not to pay attention. Don't get me wrong I've been reading(re-reading) the rules of this forum, and I've been very careful not to disobey such rules. Tbh, I was thinking of creating a new thread just to express my experience after reading through this section (Meta, Trading Discussion etc.). But I realized that'll just gonna create another "spammy thread", so I decided to just post on this specific thread. As I am also wearing the signature of the said campaign.

And I wanna blatantly mention that I, DaftAjax, tried posting 20 constructive posts (I've challenged myself), and you can check my post history, and I can assure you that I did not burst post or spam. And on my experience the consequences of this challenge are brutal. Not only I have to be online for over half of the day(to prevent spamming/burst-posting), but also my body can't handle such a task (in this case, the task I put upon myself--a challenge) that on the very next day I've only posted 2 constructive posts because I've been resting the whole day.

Also maybe one of my biggest realization (at least for me) is that I'd rather just post "enough" (maybe 10 posts?) for this campaign than to harm/risk my account AND my health. Sure I might earn, some would say, easy money but at the risk of my account(?), it's not worth it.

P.S. And I really liked to keep a conversation alive AMAP, so you can see that most of my posts over the couple weeks were in the same-ish topics.

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October 14, 2019, 05:17:02 PM
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And I wanna blatantly mention that I, DaftAjax, tried posting 20 constructive posts (I've challenged myself), and you can check my post history, and I can assure you that I did not burst post or spam. And on my experience the consequences of this challenge are brutal. Not only I have to be online for over half of the day(to prevent spamming/burst-posting), but also my body can't handle such a task (in this case, the task I put upon myself--a challenge) that on the very next day I've only posted 2 constructive posts because I've been resting the whole day.


I am not sure if i should appreciate you on making 20 constructive posts or not, but i appreciate that you realized timely that making 20 good posts in a day is not possible.
I wonder how many more people are challenging themselves to make 20 posts daily and yet not getting tired.  Tongue

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I wonder how many more people are challenging themselves to make 20 posts daily and yet not getting tired.  Tongue
I can answer that: 19!
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The following users posted in the past 24 hours (sorting: most posts first):
1. 27 Newbie MiningCoinsPool (BPIP)
2. 26 Legendary Deathwing (BPIP)
3. 25 Sr. Member febriyana (BPIP)
4. 25 Legendary TECSHARE (BPIP)
5. 25 Full Member vycl87 (BPIP)
6. 24 Sr. Member EdvinZ (BPIP)
7. 24 Newbie Rimidalv (BPIP)
8. 24 Hero Member wwzsocki (BPIP)
9. 23 Sr. Member gaston castano (BPIP)
10. 22 Sr. Member yazher (BPIP)
11. 21 Member Cakalasia (BPIP)
12. 21 Hero Member iwantapony (BPIP)
13. 20 Sr. Member Bttzed03 (BPIP)
14. 20 Sr. Member Bshiki (BPIP)
15. 20 Newbie K.Tumpa (BPIP)
16. 20 Hero Member game-protect (BPIP)
17. 20 Hero Member TwitchySeal (BPIP)
18. 20 Hero Member Edraket31 (BPIP)
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interesting;  is it possible to derive statistics/post counts for the users for the same amount of time prior to their joining the campaign and compare to while in the campaign?
Suchmoon did that already: Cryptotalk signature campaign participants 2019-10-06.
Short summary: most users post much more after joining the campaign.
I don't think Suchmoon is going to update list of Cryptotalk signature campaign participants. Suchmoon has moved the topic to Archival (I don't think Moderators have moved the topic) and there is no update since October 06.

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I don't think Suchmoon is going to update list of Cryptotalk signature campaign participants.
Less than 2 hours ago: Cryptotalk signature campaign participants 2019-10-14

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Suchmoon has moved the topic to Archival (I don't think Moderators have moved the topic) and there is no update since October 06.
Archival is a nice dumping ground for long lists, I sometimes use that too.

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October 15, 2019, 02:25:14 AM
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I am not sure if i should appreciate you on making 20 constructive posts or not, but i appreciate that you realized timely that making 20 good posts in a day is not possible.

You shouldn't be, I myself also regretted doing anything like that. Yeah, probably one of my greatest lessons as a member of this forum.



I can answer that: 19!
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The following users posted in the past 24 hours (sorting: most posts first):
1. 27 Newbie MiningCoinsPool (BPIP)
2. 26 Legendary Deathwing (BPIP)
3. 25 Sr. Member febriyana (BPIP)
4. 25 Legendary TECSHARE (BPIP)
5. 25 Full Member vycl87 (BPIP)
6. 24 Sr. Member EdvinZ (BPIP)
7. 24 Newbie Rimidalv (BPIP)
8. 24 Hero Member wwzsocki (BPIP)
9. 23 Sr. Member gaston castano (BPIP)
10. 22 Sr. Member yazher (BPIP)
11. 21 Member Cakalasia (BPIP)
12. 21 Hero Member iwantapony (BPIP)
13. 20 Sr. Member Bttzed03 (BPIP)
14. 20 Sr. Member Bshiki (BPIP)
15. 20 Newbie K.Tumpa (BPIP)
16. 20 Hero Member game-protect (BPIP)
17. 20 Hero Member TwitchySeal (BPIP)
18. 20 Hero Member Edraket31 (BPIP)
19. 20 Full Member Rhaizan (BPIP)

Oof! That's a lot, and maybe last October 11th, I was in there too(the ones who posted 20+ posts). Well, technically, anyone can really do 20+ posts per day but I doubt its gonna be constructive/contributive every time, 'cause I'm gonna guess most of it are gonna be replies/answers from previous questions/quotations, continued discussion if you will. Tried it once, never gonna do it again.

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Yobit pays what, 12k satoshi per post up to 20 posts per day?  You better believe everybody and their mother is going to be applying for that campaign.
If the revenue in the yobit campaign is 1.01 $ in per post, multiplied by 20 in one day = 20.2 $ and in one month times 30 = $ 606.
and added 10 uncles = $ 6,060. in one month.


Very noble yobit campaign, can employ all family members there, uncle, mother, grandmother, sister-in-law.

If yobit participants, living in Singapore, may in a few months buy a new car or new home.


I think we all are focusing on 20$ per day thing which is impossible to maintain if anyone wants to remain in the campaign. Theoretically yes, You  can do but practically you cannot. You can do 20 post one day, two, three days and that's all.  So if anyone is dreaming to buy a car or home on basis of this will be disappointed to find their name in the banned list sooner or later.



You can actually, you would be surprised to see what are wages in third world country.

Here in India, labourers earn 200-300 INR for days work (about 8 hours)

I am sure making 20 posts a day is easier than whole days work and you earn more.

It all depends where you live and how you live.

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4. 25 Legendary TECSHARE (BPIP)
I had to LOL at this for personal reasons.  He and I haven't exactly had the warmest, coziest relationship on the forum but I always thought he would have been good for the Chipmixer campaign.  Not because I agree with his posts, but he's certainly not a shitposter and his posts do get a lot of views.  Chipmixer would thus probably get their money's worth by having him in the campaign--but, not my decision. 

I also always thought that TECSHARE would have been on the wealthier side since he's been into bitcoin since the early days and wouldn't need to be in a campaign like Yobit's.  Funny the assumptions you can make about people on the internet, eh?

Here in India, labourers 200-300 INR for days work (about 8 hours)

I am sure making 20 posts a day is easier than whole days and you earn more.
I don't know how much that amount of INR is relative to USD, and I'm too tired to google it, but your second statement leads me to believe that it isn't much.  I know shitting in the streets in India is a problem, but I didn't think the average wage would be so low.  All the Indians I've met in the US tend to be very smart and extremely hard working.  Makes me wonder why the country is so poor--probably the government, just like most other countries with depressed economies.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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4. 25 Legendary TECSHARE (BPIP)
I had to LOL at this for personal reasons.  He and I haven't exactly had the warmest, coziest relationship on the forum but I always thought he would have been good for the Chipmixer campaign.  Not because I agree with his posts, but he's certainly not a shitposter and his posts do get a lot of views.  Chipmixer would thus probably get their money's worth by having him in the campaign--but, not my decision.  

I also always thought that TECSHARE would have been on the wealthier side since he's been into bitcoin since the early days and wouldn't need to be in a campaign like Yobit's.  Funny the assumptions you can make about people on the internet, eh?

Apparently I am "too controversial" to advertise a mixer and gambling website. Do I need to join a campaign? No, but getting paid for something I am doing anyway is a no brainer.

On a side note...


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Here in India, labourers earn 200-300 INR for days work (about 8 hours)

I am sure making 20 posts a day is easier than whole days work and you earn more.
I don't know how much that amount of INR is relative to USD, and I'm too tired to google it, but your second statement leads me to believe that it isn't much.  I know shitting in the streets in India is a problem, but I didn't think the average wage would be so low.  All the Indians I've met in the US tend to be very smart and extremely hard working.  Makes me wonder why the country is so poor--probably the government, just like most other countries with depressed economies.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It makes about 2.8 - 4 USD but then things here are cheap as well. For example, you can buy many vegetables for under 40 Rs/kg (56 cents).

Street shitting in India is indeed a problem, government has also started initiatives to encourage people to build and use toilets. We also have garbage problem, our PM had tweeted about ban on single use plastics. I hope it gets implemented soon.

Most of our problems come from over population and lack of self-discipline (if you ever visit India, it will become obvious).

Those who can't tolerate these things, have means to move out, they fly away.

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I wonder how many more people are challenging themselves to make 20 posts daily and yet not getting tired.  Tongue
I can answer that: 19!

But according to suchmoon's stats  Grin Grin Grin ; ...there are only 5 people who have managed to get over 140posts in the last seven days. And I lost another bet, not all five of them are in the cryptotalk campaign...damn, I'm really bad at those.

Bullshit, can make $ 606 in monthly and per year of that incredible $ 60,600 per account.
The government salary is above average.
If one year counts, the income in the yobit campaign will generate $ 727,200. Per 10 accounts if not discovered and banned.
This will be a dream in broad daylight and reality.

There is an extra 0 in that. A family of 10 and each having 10 accounts, each posting 20 a day continuously?
2000 posts? Speaking again without having a clue that would be probably 1/2 or 1/3 of the entire campaign post count?

4. 25 Legendary TECSHARE (BPIP)
I had to LOL at this for personal reasons.  He and I haven't exactly had the warmest, coziest relationship on the forum but I always thought he would have been good for the Chipmixer campaign.

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October 15, 2019, 10:11:54 AM
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More than 500 participants in one campaign, so let someone say it's normal number to be managed by only one man and not to produce spam. Most of them did not earn even single merit, and it is funny to see "post per day" before and now, lots of zeros.

How long will it take for the number to reach 1000?

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There's still so much shit coming from this campaign. Yahoo should talk with them to get them to implement some sort of button where the user has to be accepted by him first before they can earn. If it's still anyone can sign up and get paid immediately it's like opening up the floodgates to a flurry of shit and that's going to be unmanageable for anyone because it will never end.

I also always thought that TECSHARE would have been on the wealthier side since he's been into bitcoin since the early days and wouldn't need to be in a campaign like Yobit's.  Funny the assumptions you can make about people on the internet, eh?

Getting into bitcoin early can come with misconceptions. I know some people who were here long before me but they kinda blew their beans and sold all their coins at sub $1k. Some even sold most or all of their stash when it hit $100 or even much less. I sold quite a few coins at £1000 and would have had ten times as much if I'd have just waited a few months but I can't complain. Joining a signature campaign also comes with misconceptions (mostly from idiots). It always make me laugh when cryptocunter accuses people of being "broke bums" because they're on a campaign, which I always find ironic because calling people bums when they're earring money is kind of stupid but he needs some sort of ad hominem to try make his arguments. I don't care if I was a billionaire I would still have a signature campaign because I'm not going to throw money away. I don't "need" to be on a campaign but my earnings from this forum sure help me out a lot. Money I've made from this forum will ensure me that I don't ever need to get an extortionate mortgage which was always one of my goals when I got into bitcoin. If I was that rich though I'd probably just give it to charity. I've always admired the superrich people who donate most of their income once they become super wealthy. There's only so much money someone needs and if you're still hoarding wealth when you have hundreds of millions in the bank it becomes kinda of silly and pointless (though what people do with their own money is up to them and their business).

Here in India, labourers 200-300 INR for days work (about 8 hours)

I am sure making 20 posts a day is easier than whole days and you earn more.
I don't know how much that amount of INR is relative to USD, and I'm too tired to google it, but your second statement leads me to believe that it isn't much.  I know shitting in the streets in India is a problem, but I didn't think the average wage would be so low.  All the Indians I've met in the US tend to be very smart and extremely hard working.  Makes me wonder why the country is so poor--probably the government, just like most other countries with depressed economies.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

A lot of people live on less than a few dollars a day. Some people live on nothing, so getting paid even a dollar a post is very lucrative to many people (or however much yobit is paying), and lets be honest, would you rather earn money doing backbreaking work or earn the same or even more from making a few posts from the comfort of your own home or wherever they may be doing it from.

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October 15, 2019, 01:20:09 PM
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There's still so much shit coming from this campaign. Yahoo should talk with them to get them to implement some sort of button where the user has to be accepted by him first before they can earn. If it's still anyone can sign up and get paid immediately it's like opening up the floodgates to a flurry of shit and that's going to be unmanageable for anyone because it will never end.

How he will talk to anybody when he is saying that YoBit is not responsible for anything but payment which is technically true, no one advertises that exchange. They made forum and force users to register on their exchange in order to get pay, the perfect way to advertise very shady exchange with hundreds of scam reports only on this forum.

He is saying that the signature code that everyone sees on this forum does not say anything about yobit. So technically noone is advertising for yobit, regardless of where the payment is sent.

I agree that the situation could have been even worse without any control, but we cannot say that it is much better even with some control. The only way to fix this situation is to force YoBit (if at all possible) to remove an automatic application and to reduce number of posts per day/week. But I am sure that will not do that, they have huge exposure and so far there is no official reaction from the forum staff.

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October 15, 2019, 01:24:52 PM
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There's still so much shit coming from this campaign. Yahoo should talk with them to get them to implement some sort of button where the user has to be accepted by him first before they can earn. If it's still anyone can sign up and get paid immediately it's like opening up the floodgates to a flurry of shit and that's going to be unmanageable for anyone because it will never end.

Here is the post made by Yahoo62278 about 10 days ago.

Hello Yahoo,
I would like to give one suggestion, hope you would discuss it with YoBit management and implement if possible.
Currently posts for any account is counted and accounted for in YoBit panel in 3-4 hours. This opens the door for negative accounts and spammers to take advantage and withdraw payment for 10-15 posts before getting banned. Won't it be better if stats are updated after 24 hours (once a day would be good) so that you will have adequate time to ban anyone before he/she makes any withdrawal? This will help in longevity of campaign as well as reduce spam to certain degree.
I certainly can ask them if that's a feasible option but no guarantees on what they do. I know they're considering a merit requirement as well so that would help a ton

There might be some changes in a near future. We should wait and see whether there will be some requirements or not.

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I don't know how much that amount of INR is relative to USD, and I'm too tired to google it, but your second statement leads me to believe that it isn't much.  I know shitting in the streets in India is a problem, but I didn't think the average wage would be so low.  All the Indians I've met in the US tend to be very smart and extremely hard working.  Makes me wonder why the country is so poor--probably the government, just like most other countries with depressed economies.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I live in Pakistan which is a neighbor country to India and i can tell you the exact situation here.

1 USD can buy you around 71 INR in India
1 USD can buy you around 156 Rs in Pakistan
1 USD can you around 51 Peso in Philiphines

The average wage in our country is normal like yours, but if we convert our average wage in dollars and compare it with yours, it look like a tiny figure.
But then prices of things in our country (when converted to dollar) are also less than your country.

Its only the conversion rate which makes a bit confusion else people are earning good who have good jobs and business in our region too.
Why these people countrymen feel pride to work in US and other European countries because they are paid in Dollars and Euro and when they convert those Dollars to their local currencies, this turns out to be an handsome amount of money.

All this is not related to cryptotalk but since you asked this question here, i thought to shed some light on it.

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October 15, 2019, 03:55:38 PM
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There's still so much shit coming from this campaign. Yahoo should talk with them to get them to implement some sort of button where the user has to be accepted by him first before they can earn. If it's still anyone can sign up and get paid immediately it's like opening up the floodgates to a flurry of shit and that's going to be unmanageable for anyone because it will never end.
For now @ yahoo, still able to serve yobit participants with the rules he made at this time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188200.0

Not a few yobit participants are kicked, but this does not prevent other participants to entering, for the sake of the dollar.

I don't think water dams and hurricanes that hit the Forum can now be banned, unless stopped.

Many forum members today help @yahoo in eradicating spamer, without expecting rewards from the yobit manager.

As happened in local Pilipinas and lndonesia.
Local pilipinas and indonesian mods have to work hard in holding flood water dams at this time again in the lunge in the Philippines and indonesia.


Local: Pilipinas
Local: Altcoins Pilipinas
Local: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192243.0
Local: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189873.60

This is the same for Indonesian locales, currently hit by floods and hurricanes.

Local: Altcoins lndonesia
Local: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032757.500
Local: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163472.80

If, the flow of water on the opponent of all the anchors will be broken.
One way to wait for the water to run out, finished the problem.





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October 15, 2019, 04:13:40 PM
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Yobit introducing a minimum merit earned would be the best approach if we are to prevent spambots from joining the campaign and I would like to make sure that people understand that there are good posters in this campaign and we aren't all abusing the system. I haven't posted in a couple of days and I'm not looking to abuse the campaign. Its just something that I get paid when I do post and don't have to worry about reaching a minimum post count.
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October 15, 2019, 06:12:52 PM
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Makes me wonder why the country is so poor--probably the government, just like most other countries with depressed economies.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Its an off topic but I just wanted TP to know why.

Only reason is Population,almost they are hitting 1.5 billion and expected to hist the first place of most populated country in the near future since China have lot of laws related to birth control.

But India is where we can get more smart people at cheapest price that is why Indians found every corners of this world and also some sitting as most salaried jobs in the world as well.

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