Why do Investors always turn to reduce or deny bounty hunters their payments

[otto93]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

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[SamboNZ]

Its up to you to join and i see other projects adds diclaimer note that they have the right to change the rules or agreement.
Either way bounty is a waste of time now, its better to spend the effort on something else rather than waiting for a long time and get paid for a measly amount.

[Javi_Anibarro]

Why not?
Changes are expected when we are doing something and to prevent an unnecessary problem such as complaints, it is important for the managers to make that statement.
in case something wrong happens with the participant or the project itself.
just make sure you are participating in something that is handled by a professional, to lessen the risk being exploited by the rules.

[Mighty_crypt]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

Every decisions make by the project teams will be passed onto bounty hunters by bounty managers, most times bounty allocation get reduced because the project failed to reach its target hardcap, if they pay bounty hunters when the project failed to met target it will be a total loss for the team, remember that bounty hunters like to dump, just think about it

[otto93]

Its up to you to join and i see other projects adds diclaimer note that they have the right to change the rules or agreement.
Either way bounty is a waste of time now, its better to spend the effort on something else rather than waiting for a long time and get paid for a measly amount.

When you say something better, can you draw me a list of the things that can be useful now sir? I will really like to Chanel my resources if I found it attractive

[zeze18]

Every decisions make by the project teams will be passed onto bounty hunters by bounty managers, most times bounty allocation get reduced because the project failed to reach its target hardcap, if they pay bounty hunters when the project failed to met target it will be a total loss for the team, remember that bounty hunters like to dump, just think about it

Bounty allocation should be not reduced because at the first time the bounty manager made a thread, there are a contract that how many percont of total supply that allocated to bounty.
And i think if the project's really good, even the bounty hunter dump it, the coins will be more valuable in the future because the bounty allocation is usually just 1-2% of total supply

[CryptoBry]

Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

Changing terms of the bounty promotion is actually unacceptable especially after we realized that the project made a good run in its ICO crowdfunding activities. However, these people are making sure that any changes they might implement are still within the parameters they set in the first place, in other words there is nothing we, as bounty hunters, can do but obliged to their decision. There is no way we can stop them to do whatever they want to do. There is no course of action to address any complaint we may have. We have no court where we can file a case against them for some damages or to enforce the original and published terms and conditions. In summary, we are powerless and all we can do is to make some noise in this forum. This can be the big reason why many already stop doing bounties as they are not anymore that attractive to do. Still, am hoping that there will be changes come 2020, hope springs eternal as they say.

[yazher]

Every day you can read posts like this about a bad reputation on engaging in a bounty campaign. This is clearly indicating that almost no bounties are worth our time. From the beginning, we are warned by the veterans' members here that joining some bounties may waste our time. this is the true nature of bounty nowadays If they won't give you anything. they at least reduce your rewards to the smallest part as possible.

[Palider]

It is only right but if it is to be used to derail or reduce the wage we must earn it must be wrong,
It also depends on the circumstances in which it is occurring and it is inevitable that they will need to make an annoucement before the Ico campaign can begin to alert bounty hunters to any potential change. This is a warning and it depends on you if you continue the bounty campaign you are going to join.

[Rodeo02]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

Every decisions make by the project teams will be passed onto bounty hunters by bounty managers, most times bounty allocation get reduced because the project failed to reach its target hardcap, if they pay bounty hunters when the project failed to met target it will be a total loss for the team, remember that bounty hunters like to dump, just think about it

This rules should also add in the OP the day posted it, that they are able to change the allocation depend on the raise fund or else give exact  calculated bounty  2-3% from raised funds not from the total supply .
If bounty hunters want to dump token from payment its thier right to do and owner know it already. before starting the campaign they know that most of the bounty hunter will sell it after the payment.

[JCviggen]

I have seen this phrase many times in the bounty threads, but it did not stop me from participating in the bounty campaign, because this is not the main criterion for participation for me. I study the prospects of the entire project before participating.

[magneto]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

If they stated that before the campaign was opened to participants, then I don't see a problem with it as long as the changes they make in the future aren't drastically different from what the original conditions were of the campaign.

If you sign up to a bounty campaign with these aforementioned conditions, then it's really your own responsibility and risk.

But honestly, there is a lot of campaigns that are completely not worth your while. Do your own research before providing your labour.

[jazmuzika217]

I think they need to stop that kind of activity. They need to be fair to bounty hunters because it can help lot in promoting their projects. As a bounty hunter I was a victim of that kind of system specially in giving delaying rewards and quickly changing rules. Work and duty of every bounty hunters is not easy so they need to receive a right amount of salary in time.

[Kyraishi]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

If it's listed on the thread and available for people to see and read, and then you sign up and accept the terms there's not much you can complain or disagree with. They asked for the permission to fuck you over and they did later on...

A lot of companies use this as a way to advertise fake amounts and then save money by just drastically reducing the budget later on.

In the real world there is contract law so you can't add extreme terms to a contract but in something so unregulated like bounty campaigns you are shit out of luck.

[Mighty_crypt]

I have seen this phrase many times in the bounty threads, but it did not stop me from participating in the bounty campaign, because this is not the main criterion for participation for me. I study the prospects of the entire project before participating.

Many bounty hunters failed to understand that there are many things to consider when promoting projects, developers are humans too, they need funds to be able to pay hunters for their hardwork as well, once project failed to me softcap there will be problem

[gandame]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

You can choose if you join or not but managers have right to change the rules especially when the owner tell to manager what they do.
So if you join in bounty especially altcoins signature campaign expect that the rules will break.

[Kvalentine]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

With this point of yours i think both bounty manager and the project owners planned such from the start, if you see any bounty manager in such act you should raise alarm on here and there will be consequences, bounty hunters need to investigate every bounty projects very well before proceeding

[DabsPoorVersion]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

You can choose if you join or not but managers have right to change the rules especially when the owner tell to manager what they do.
So if you join in bounty especially altcoins signature campaign expect that the rules will break.

Most of the time, managers always put the instruction in every bounty project that the team or the bounty manager has the right to modify the campaign rules. If bounty participants are reading the instructions very well, they should know and understand that the rules and regulation of the project is still in the hands of the one who manage it and the project itself.

[NathanJB]

Some Project owners together with some Bounty managers promise Hunters certain percentage of total tokens to be created.
These promised tokens inturn manipulates hunters to engage in these bounties expecting to be paid.
One main phrase that gets to favor this bounty managers and project owners is "bounty manager and project owners have the rigjt to male changes to the bounty tool at any point in time"
Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

There is rampant manipulation in the bounty section actually. That should not be allowed for me. That is a form of cheating. If there are changes, it should be made at least a month before the bounty ends and not in a day or two. I have seen bounty campaigns whose allocation are suddenly changed even when the campaign is already finished. There are also others that change the duration into more than triple the time without any additional reward. These are all forms of cheating. Nobody should participate in such cheaters.

[livingfree]

Should the above statement be allowed to continue?

They have the rights to change it because if there will be some major changes, the participants will have no voice to disagree. And if this is a big case for you, don't join those bounties that has this kind of rule because it will continue to bother you once you've joined a bounty that has this rule.

With your title about investors, I don't get it why they also take a part of it?