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October 21, 2019, 04:45:30 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

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October 21, 2019, 04:53:11 PM
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Looks more like a pump and dump project to me, investors needs to avoid this kind of coins because once the dev or teams gain what they want in the project they will abandon the project, either ways those who are smart can earn a lot from this type of projects

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October 21, 2019, 04:59:46 PM
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no surprise shitcoin like wixlar and many shitcoins that go up every day it's just that it only lasts in a matter of hours and look for victims who don't understand because they don't have buy orders, believe me if you want to bet there your chances of getting profit is only 1%, it's a rule about this must be done immediately.
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October 21, 2019, 05:02:10 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

This shit coin can't be removed becaus groups of crypto whales making a profit here. All we can do is avoid it so that we don't get stuck in case they start dumping.
Many are still victims and risk their money here even though they know it is dangerous. Because they know that here they will make a profit in a fast way just like gambling!
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October 21, 2019, 05:03:47 PM
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Looks more like a pump and dump project to me, investors needs to avoid this kind of coins because once the dev or teams gain what they want in the project they will abandon the project, either ways those who are smart can earn a lot from this type of projects
I think your statement is wrong, Wixlar is a good project, WIX has been around since the beginning of 2019,
and now the increase of WIX in coin market is 30%, I believe WIX will occupy top 200 coin marketcaps, now WIX is in 266th position



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October 21, 2019, 05:06:41 PM
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From Coinmarketcap I see the price is up only 1.23% with .7BTC Volume. Don't give attention to the shit coins.


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October 21, 2019, 05:17:34 PM
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From Coinmarketcap I see the price is up only 1.23% with .7BTC Volume. Don't give attention to the shit coins.



it's like manipulation ...
better don't pay attention to this altcoin, if you don't want to lose.
with a volume of 0.7btc, there is definitely someone who is trying to pump to make this coin have potential. if the trading volume has increased, then he will sell all the shit coins he has. so be careful ...

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October 21, 2019, 05:28:11 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
In order to get rid of coins like this, it is necessary to not care about them anymore. Unfortunately, there are always people who want to bet their money on shitcoin like this.
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October 21, 2019, 05:28:23 PM
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53 million is not so significant to raise the value of huge marketcap coin like XRP u mentioned. Every project has its moment of glory, not bad for the cryptomarket that such coin make huge gains in a day.they certainly are a preference for some investors. Also someone noted the gains is not as indicated
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October 21, 2019, 05:31:25 PM
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Looks more like a pump and dump project to me
It's got to be, and it's one I've never even heard of.  Hopefully nobody will be taken in by those percentage gains and start believing it's a solid coin.  That's the danger of shit coins getting pumped up beyond belief.

When will these shit coins go away
Probably when the sucker population stops buying them when they're new, or at any other time for that matter.  I have learnt never to underestimate suckers, tho.  If they think something is hot, they'll buy it if you give them a good story.  Don't think coins like this will ever stop being created.
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October 21, 2019, 05:34:46 PM
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From Coinmarketcap I see the price is up only 1.23% with .7BTC Volume. Don't give attention to the shit coins.



it's like manipulation ...
better don't pay attention to this altcoin, if you don't want to lose.
with a volume of 0.7btc, there is definitely someone who is trying to pump to make this coin have potential. if the trading volume has increased, then he will sell all the shit coins he has. so be careful ...

Currently the price of WIX $ 0.015631 USD is up 26% and the current volume is 1.18BTC if this is a manipulation too but I am also still hesitant to buy it, I better look for information about WIX on its official social media.

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October 21, 2019, 05:37:27 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
Believe me any coin or token that rise up over 100% in value apart from bitcoin itself is scam, with this present market condition its pretty hard for every altcoins to surge up in price, even good IEO projects on binance are not returning big returns anymore
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October 21, 2019, 06:28:02 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

I'm seeing a volume of less than 10K today, unless I am looking at he wrong coin there. You really think 10K will move XRP's price? Even if we take all shitcoins and pile their volume up into one big bundle, it wouldn't matter as much as you think -- there is also no saying that money would go into XRP, BTC or any top crypto either. It's a mistaken notion bitcoin maximalists have as well, that all volume will flow back to them if every other coin just disappeared.

Besides, as far as regulations go, be careful what you wish for. If the SEC defines XRP as a security, you might not be so happy about it.
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October 21, 2019, 06:37:48 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

No surprises here. Shitcoins like this have always known to be pumped insanely and then dumped miserably. Their low marketcap makes them easy to target and exploit. Even with regulations, It'll be be reduced but not entirely stopped as anyone can create a shitcoin, get it listed on a small exchange and then start pumping it. The Wixlar pump is not that high. I've seen shitcoins with <$50k marketcap pumping 1200+% in an hour

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October 21, 2019, 06:45:20 PM
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Such increase in price would usually land a coin in the top gainers of coinmarketcap but that is not the case here.



A closer look at the exchanges where wix is being traded, most volume is coming from instant bitex but that wasn't included in the CMC.

If you also add all the volume in the last 24 hours, that's more or less $20,000. From that alone, we can assume that this token's price is still easily manipulated.

Don't be fooled by such pumps, it helps if you can look into details.
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October 21, 2019, 07:00:40 PM
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This is not about money going in shitcoins, almost all of the coins which have huge gains are prompted up by fake volumes and even fake money . This is a new and very popular trend where individuals , groups of individuals or even exchanges fake the growth to these coins so that other people would get in their trap and lose money.

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October 21, 2019, 07:10:33 PM
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In cryptozink website, WIX pumped 155+% in 24h, but in coinmarketcap, just pumped 26%
No doubt that shit can get hard pump, it just has low volume, the biggest volume i see just 8.1 ETH
so, it's easy to manipulate that shit Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

 
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October 21, 2019, 07:10:55 PM
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This is not about money going in shitcoins, almost all of the coins which have huge gains are prompted up by fake volumes and even fake money . This is a new and very popular trend where individuals , groups of individuals or even exchanges fake the growth to these coins so that other people would get in their trap and lose money.

New trend? Huh?

I remember seeing this happen way back in 2014. It's always happened. And let's not pretend it only occurs with shitcoins, how do you think ETH went to the value it reached? There was a crazy pump on Poloniex.

I guess people have short memories, but the reason that crypto is popular and reached the values it did isn't based on fundamentals or organic price growth. It was all pumped up, even BTC. Remember BTC's first rise was from Mt. Gox and fake money pumping it up. Without that occurring, we may still be looking at 10K BTC buying a pizza.

So folks here shouldn't act all innocent and think this is a new thing or only shitcoins are to blame.
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October 21, 2019, 07:17:30 PM
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This is not new mostly happen in last many years as its most useful weapon for shit devs they use this and many new and greedy investors in try to have some good profit face this and lost some good amount of money so I feel its good now many members understand and take action very quickly they post here which helping community and investors so better avoid this and get away from these projects.
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October 21, 2019, 08:22:53 PM
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I've seen someone posted it on FB that there's other one on coinmarketcap the other day that even pumped by 10,000%. But that was quick and not even appeared on the daily gainers and losers.

Expecting that they will be gone out of this market, I don't think that it will happen soonest but there will be a time to come that most of them will be exterminated because the voice of the people will go with the majority that everyone should invest to great known coins like BTC.

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October 21, 2019, 08:37:17 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
I don't really know much about WIX but after going through the coinmarketcap data, the 24 HR volume is damn low so it's actually not doing so well as purported. Any coin you consider shitcoin, best is to ignore it.
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October 21, 2019, 09:01:03 PM
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With only a few thousand dollars, the price can pump over 100%. There are hundreds of shitcoins on the market like this one and looking at it in such a detailed way gives nothing. I also looked at the exchanges it listed, and these exchanges are the best indication that we are not mistaken. This is just the bait used to deceive the little fishes.
either ways those who are smart can earn a lot from this type of projects
Making a profit here is not as easy as it seems. Big fishes will swallow you immediately.
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October 21, 2019, 09:03:49 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

no worry man its just a P&D, honestly everyday this happens
whales are constantly finding coins that are low volume and high supply to manipulate
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I don't really know much about WIX but after going through the coinmarketcap data, the 24 HR volume is damn low so it's actually not doing so well as purported. Any coin you consider shitcoin, best is to ignore it.

It's such a dinky coin it baffles me why the OP even bothered mentioning it. There will always be random coins that spike up, usually with such low volume it hardly matters. OP acts like the money from those coins are what is keeping the price of XRP (or top coins) down, and money would instead flow into them.

So 10K or so would go into BTC or XRP, big whoop.

Besides the fact that all coins are pumped/dumped, including BTC and ETH, I'm not so sure we should even being wishing for more rules or all 'amazing gains' to regulated out of existence. The reason BTC went insane in 2017 wasn't solely because of BTC, it was because smaller alts went crazy too. When folks see 5-10x gains, or coins doubling in a day, they are willing to invest. If they see 2% gains, they aren't quite as enthusiastic.

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October 21, 2019, 09:19:37 PM
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Trade volume: $3,000.

What's the point of even making this thread? Practically nobody would have profited from its price growth.

Maybe I should mention how Bitcoin Private is up 10% today also, despite falling by 99% in the last year.

Don't give shitcoins attention, and they'll stop appearing.
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October 21, 2019, 09:35:05 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

Shitcoins are never going away. There's no amount of regulation that could chase the pump&dump activities on all the exchanges with hundreds of projects that we have never even heard of. And some of them just happen to be projects of the small fan bases, some without funding, not even trying to be shitcoin projects.
So the real question is, who should have an authority to declare what project people should be allowed to invest to and why?

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October 21, 2019, 09:36:00 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

a lot of shit-coins in the market now, you must becareful if you want to invest your money without knowledge buddy
do your own research is the best idea, before investing now
anyway i didn't like xrp, sorry, because you mentioned xrp in your post above
and better all money from thus shit coins going to bitcoin
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I surprise this coin listing in a lot of exchanges, why all say it is shitcoin !!
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0.73 BTC Is just 2 percent of the whole market value. that is too low for that kind of rise in price. For me, this is clear market manipulation and you should take care if you want to be involved in it's market. There us a big chance that after those up will have a 50 percent down from the original market price! you will end up here losing 80 percent of your funds after entering!


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Never mind such altcoins they are just pumped by the whales to get people's attention. Once people buy the tokens then the whales will dump the price and the people will end up losing their amount of money. I don't actually trust such altcoins rather the top 50 coins in the market to avoid getting ripped by the whales.  
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In cryptozink website, WIX pumped 155+% in 24h, but in coinmarketcap, just pumped 26%
No doubt that shit can get hard pump, it just has low volume, the biggest volume i see just 8.1 ETH
so, it's easy to manipulate that shit Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
that means if cryptozink is a fully manipulated mcap site. no doubt if OP posted about that consider about that's a part of the promotion trick. That's a crap coin with almost zero volume that must not be included in our consideration.
Op used the word of shitcoin to attract readers.
It looks like this can be considered as a promotion thread that already made by OP.

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What's the point of even making this thread?
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To promote OP website, everything about the OP is leads to his website.

PnD have a group they will choose random coin with low volume to pump and make a trap for new traders, don't be surprise about this.

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Never mind such altcoins they are just pumped by the whales to get people's attention. Once people buy the tokens then the whales will dump the price and the people will end up losing their amount of money. I don't actually trust such altcoins rather the top 50 coins in the market to avoid getting ripped by the whales.  
whales often manipulate price by creating fake pump.they sacrifice retail trader in order to get much profits.and its be the law in market if beginner trader will always be the victim if they dont understand all of this just pump and dump scenario.

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Such is the uncommon beauty of this cryptocurrency market. Its trend can never be truly or accurately predicted. I saw a coin doing 7000 percent on Binance DEX and it was shocking. An investment of just 300 us dollars in MDAB would have given about 20000us dollars. I guess this is one of the reason some investors are still fund of investing outside the coin market cap top 50. The higher the risks the juicier the reward

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October 21, 2019, 11:44:48 PM
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Never mind such altcoins they are just pumped by the whales to get people's attention. Once people buy the tokens then the whales will dump the price and the people will end up losing their amount of money. I don't actually trust such altcoins rather the top 50 coins in the market to avoid getting ripped by the whales.  
whales often manipulate price by creating fake pump.they sacrifice retail trader in order to get much profits.and its be the law in market if beginner trader will always be the victim if they dont understand all of this just pump and dump scenario.
What? Whale? the volume is $10k below, This is just fishes creating a fake pump to let other smaller fishes to buy their bags.
This shitcoin isn't even listed in a decent exchange, its only available to ignored exchangers.
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Anything can happen, especially pump and dump on shitcoin. Usually coins like this are whales or developer games themselves. Which later they will continue to sell the rest of the coins they store at a good price. after that, they run away and the coins are ignored and become a scam. That's how the shitcoin cycle is and it has been happening ever since I entered the crypto world.



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This is a more common occurrence in the altcoin scene knowing how some coins and their teams are still perpetrating such activities. Even with intense regulations already set in place against such kind of trading schemes, some still get away with it in the open. Until actual people are apprehended with their participation on pumps and dumps, this will never stop.

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October 22, 2019, 01:00:42 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

It's obvious mate, just another pump-and-dump coin so there are no surprises here. I'm sure that it will fall as hard as it goes up, just a matter of days before the price plummeted to a level in which it will be very difficult to bounce back.

And for those who are lucky and joined this hype, I advise you to be very careful and vigilant because at any given time, the price will go down. So better exited on time and book for your profits. Be smart and use logic here, and don't be greedy, just saying.

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October 22, 2019, 01:15:33 AM
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It can be possible that the price of that coin was manipulated by a dump and pump group. With that, we shouldn't be fall for those 155% increased. That's their way to attract new investors to buy the coin. However, according to CMC it is ranked as 227. No way I'm gonna buy it. We can still choose to buy deserving and trusted coins. Their platform isn't that special, too. Buying and selling with their blockchain.
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October 22, 2019, 01:31:06 AM
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You already said it's a shitcoin so why are you surprised by the sudden price movement.

But this reflects the current state of crypto market, specially alts, many coins are being used for pure purposed of many money out of noobs today. I'm sure there are noobs who are caught by the hype of this project and thinks that it's good. This give them false hope that crypto is a get rich scheme and then when they see that they are losing money because they don't know how to play then they will get out, sad but true and I feel sorry for those who are victims by this shitcoin.

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October 22, 2019, 01:43:16 AM
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I see lots of successful projects, many of which are only successful at the beginning. It's hard to find a good coin right now, I hope the shit coins will be gone.
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October 22, 2019, 07:20:38 AM
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Whales won't risk pumping a coin during the current bear market. Makes no sense. It would end up with them holding bags. Unless Bitcoin holds its price steady for a few days or weeks, they will likely hold off that sort of activity. However coins that don't have much holders, had pumps. I saw today quite a few coins were showing as much as 200 percent 24 hour gains that aren't on CoinMarketCap.

Also a lot of people learned their lesson about putting money into shitcoins. I've been around Crypto since 2015 and I’ve never seen a coin pump that didn’t go right back down.  a thing that has been strange to me all the time is, Why during a bear market there are almost NONE updates from Crypto teams and developers?
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Looks more like a pump and dump project to me, investors needs to avoid this kind of coins because once the dev or teams gain what they want in the project they will abandon the project, either ways those who are smart can earn a lot from this type of projects
this is not too strange for me, in fact it often happens several times in binance, especially coins with low volumes. This is due to the pump & dump group and not from the developer in my opinion, as seen in their social feeds there has not been significant progress since their last post. They are targeting etherflyer/vindax, and now prices are back down. for new traders this is very risky because the momentum has passed.
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October 22, 2019, 04:33:20 PM
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This is happening because of the lack of real trading volume. Imagine that a coin is listed on Coinexchange and has a trading pile with 15 buying orders. Every order has a value of 0,1 USD but the price is between 0,001 and 1 USD. Once anyone buys 10 bucks worth of those tokens, the price makes x100 on CMC.

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Looks more like a pump and dump project to me, investors needs to avoid this kind of coins because once the dev or teams gain what they want in the project they will abandon the project, either ways those who are smart can earn a lot from this type of projects
for newcomer must beware because i know few group especially in telegram they give signal to pump some shitcoin in market, usually from yobit, they speak to user in the channel to buy somecoin and in few day are pumped and for trader are buying in the top are lossing their money, because after few hours they dump the prie again

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This is why it is a shitcoin, this use to be a normal, some of these coins lacks liquidity and do have wide spread and it is very easy to move their prices, you are talking about this now but in months to come you won't even know the project exit because it would have dumped, newbies need to watch out for things like this and not get burnt buying at the top


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October 22, 2019, 08:05:39 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
Current price is $0.0136 so its just actually a man made bump and look at their trading volume its under one btc so never consider any coin with this much trading volume as going to moon,they were literally going to dump it after the small bump.
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This is why it is a shitcoin, this use to be a normal, some of these coins lacks liquidity and do have wide spread and it is very easy to move their prices, you are talking about this now but in months to come you won't even know the project exit because it would have dumped, newbies need to watch out for things like this and not get burnt buying at the top

Shitcoins are eccentric and the most often than not very unpredictable and that's it can make people rich in seconds and poor in seconds as well due to the associated high risks. I think the feeling of not knowing what to expect from a token gets people more attracted and addicted into these shitcoins especially when there's is thought that it can become big anytime. For some people like me, the huge uncertainty around shitcoins remains a turnoff for me

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Even on other markets price pumping is a thing, the only difference is ones the prices starts to get abnormal SEC has the power to pull off a trading halt on the particular stock in a crypto exchange this isn't a thing since they aren't regulated the same way compared to what stock markets have. I don't know if this will be a thing in the crypto market but if this happens think off what will happen to cryptocurrencies that aren't "shitcoins" like Bitcoin, would you ever be satisfied with a 10% price increase and suddenly the authorities ordered to stop the trading because of it? Of course not we want BTC to keep pumping up. Also a regulation of this kind isn't possible since even if they stop the trading for a cryptocurrency they can't totally stop it since the people could continue to trade on other platforms as well as a P2P exchange which they can't really control.
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Even on other markets price pumping is a thing, the only difference is ones the prices starts to get abnormal SEC has the power to pull off a trading halt on the particular stock in a crypto exchange this isn't a thing since they aren't regulated the same way compared to what stock markets have. I don't know if this will be a thing in the crypto market but if this happens think off what will happen to cryptocurrencies that aren't "shitcoins" like Bitcoin, would you ever be satisfied with a 10% price increase and suddenly the authorities ordered to stop the trading because of it? Of course not we want BTC to keep pumping up. Also a regulation of this kind isn't possible since even if they stop the trading for a cryptocurrency they can't totally stop it since the people could continue to trade on other platforms as well as a P2P exchange which they can't really control.

That's why those who cry for more regulation thinking it'd somehow be a good thing are misguided in my opinion. It's not like these low volume alts would flow into BTC to begin with, or even move prices that much, but do we want all crypto, including BTC, to be locked into stock-market like movement? So 5-10% a year would be great, and we'd go years without any movement at all?

They also seem to have short memories. ETH went up crazy amounts during its first big rise, like over 10x, and  BTC went from around 1K to 20K in less than a year ...  asking for more regulation is throwing the baby out with the bathwater... tiny alts would no longer do their crazy pumps, but it'd also mean BTC wouldn't do its crazy rise either.
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10,000%? I believe it though. Sometimes those sh*t coin stats don't appear anywhere.

I've seen someone posted it on FB that there's other one on coinmarketcap the other day that even pumped by 10,000%. But that was quick and not even appeared on the daily gainers and losers.

Expecting that they will be gone out of this market, I don't think that it will happen soonest but there will be a time to come that most of them will be exterminated because the voice of the people will go with the majority that everyone should invest to great known coins like BTC.

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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.




Hilding shicoins is a gamble and high risk but anyway nobody can tell which shitcoins grow up their price in the market, I think depends on the volume availablity of the coins and the demands into the market cap.
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It is just a pump. Do not pay attention to projects that use such methods of raising the price of a coin. However, the project owners may not be associated with this pump. It seems to me that this coin is not really shit.

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October 26, 2019, 02:31:20 AM
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How will regulations change anything? If people are stupid and buy shitcoin how can you stop that? People are free to do as they please that includes waste their money. It is unfortunate for us since as you say it could be used for much better projects that are actually projects and not just a copypaste coin with no reason to be. People just need to stop being so stupid, no regulation in the world can change stupidity.

I understand sometimes you do not know if a project is a scam and I understand that but gees the things people fall for... *facepalm*

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Shit is shit, just look at the volume is very little. The price of this coin rises because of manipulation, when it is at a certain price, this coin will break like a bubble and you will be trapped inside. If getting stuck on shitcoin is very difficult to recovery, and the only way to get out of here you have to cut losses.

 
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October 26, 2019, 03:04:21 AM
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Shit is shit, just look at the volume is very little. The price of this coin rises because of manipulation, when it is at a certain price, this coin will break like a bubble and you will be trapped inside. If getting stuck on shitcoin is very difficult to recovery, and the only way to get out of here you have to cut losses.
shitcoin will not be in the top 200 coinmarketcap !, indeed the 24 hour volume is only around $ 8000 and that is small,
but WIXLAR has the potential to fly to the top 100, it is a big risk if you use 100% funds, it's better to invest using 10- 20% or maybe you can trade WIXLAR,
of course with analytical techniques
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October 26, 2019, 03:10:15 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
This is just a slight push for the whales. you will see that such coins grow more than 200% or even 500%, but the volume is just under $ 5k. and it is not considered growth, it is only seen as a temporary price push and does not work much.

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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

You can never expect regulations in the altcoin market, much less in the whole world of crypto. Who or what agency will do that? The cryptocurrency phenomenon is saturating the entire globe and they are subject to no single country's laws and regulations. But the shitcoins will die if the people will begin to see their true colors. For now, lessons are being taught to them in the hard way.

When you complained about Wixlar (WIX) and compare it to a real project, you should not have cited Ripple (XRP). A lot are saying that Ripple (XRP) is also a shitcoin. Why not mention Bitcoin instead?
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October 26, 2019, 03:27:14 AM
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The problem comes when it's time to sell. No body is buying a coin that goes up that high. You have to wait until it goes negative in order to be able to sell.

Looks more like a pump and dump project to me
It's got to be, and it's one I've never even heard of.  Hopefully nobody will be taken in by those percentage gains and start believing it's a solid coin.  That's the danger of shit coins getting pumped up beyond belief.

When will these shit coins go away
Probably when the sucker population stops buying them when they're new, or at any other time for that matter.  I have learnt never to underestimate suckers, tho.  If they think something is hot, they'll buy it if you give them a good story.  Don't think coins like this will ever stop being created.

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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

During the past 5 days, the prices have crashed like anything. They have fallen from $0.035 per coin to around $0.01 per coin. And this is why these coins are being called as "shitcoins". Who ever pumped the prices was able to dump whatever holdings they had at a profit and then made a quick exit. Now those noobs who purchased this coin at the peak prices are stuck, as the prices have fallen by 70% in 5 days.

If you ask me, I would advice you to book losses (even if it is 70%). Because looking at the trends, it is clear that the "pump" phase is over and the coin will continue to go down over the next few days. Those who still have the coin in their wallets missed the first pump and they can either sell them now or wait for another pump to happen (which looks very unlikely).

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I dont see any reason why people judge this as shitcoin while I can see that this coin is doing great on the current price action it is normal for every altcoins to go up the price when bitcoin is pumping.

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 There's no one can wipe out shitcoin on this market mate.  Because shitcoin are very hard to determine. Wherein they all comes up only and can be recognized as a ponzi once they failed scamming.  What i mean we will realize it only by the end that it was fake project  when it shows bad performance and constantly showing negative sign. So we cannot remove that kind of projects here in crypto world ..but we still able reduced it actually because in fact here in forum there are some list of some ponzi project.  So before joining check the list first to assure you can prevent joining such project that always become worthless after putting all your efforts.
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It is just a pump. Do not pay attention to projects that use such methods of raising the price of a coin. However, the project owners may not be associated with this pump. It seems to me that this coin is not really shit.
at least there is still activity on that coin. and it could be that the team began to prepare something to improve the project. although it may not be the project owner who did it, but with the increase there will be many investors researching the project and this is a good step


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I dont see any reason why people judge this as shitcoin while I can see that this coin is doing great on the current price action it is normal for every altcoins to go up the price when bitcoin is pumping.

ROFLMAO... have you checked the prices and market cap recently? Wixlar was trading at $0.035 per coin a few days back, before it crashed. Against USD, it has lost 70% of its value. Against Bitcoin, it has lost more than 80%. The picture is very clear. There was manipulation in some of the exchanges (VinDAX or Mercatox), and someone managed to do a pump. But that phase is over now. Now it is just like any other shitcoin and will inch slowly towards its death every day. As I can see, the trade volumes are also going down.

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So a 300% up is really 2%. The 298% is fake trading volume. I get it.

This is not about money going in shitcoins, almost all of the coins which have huge gains are prompted up by fake volumes and even fake money . This is a new and very popular trend where individuals , groups of individuals or even exchanges fake the growth to these coins so that other people would get in their trap and lose money.

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That's normal pump and dump even the shittiest project can do better than that. Thats why everytime we look at the coinmarketcap we should double check everything if the data is credible. We can't judge all of them are useless project it just happen that pump and dump are normal game in unregulated market.
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That's normal pump and dump even the shittiest project can do better than that. Thats why everytime we look at the coinmarketcap we should double check everything if the data is credible. We can't judge all of them are useless project it just happen that pump and dump are normal game in unregulated market.

But you need to be cautious when a shitcoin is pumping and dumping. They are looking for victims with that scheme. Some people will notice how such shitcoins are making spikes every once in a while and they will probably get curious and join the pump and dump. They are lucky if they are able to ride them perfectly. But if not, they will be caught in the middle and lose. At times, a pump is intentionally done by the team themselves to make it appear that their coin is still alive.
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we cant blame people who still wanna buy any coins even shitcoin, they buy with their money so it's absolutely not a crime
shitcoin is just for dump and pump scheme. fortunately, many people are smart enough to know what is good and bad coins
the good coin will have consistency big marketcap, vice viersa
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Considering how small the 24h volume was, it could be a market manipulation or someone trying to bait the price to go up. It's a common thing actually. It has quite a good amount of market cap. But the daily volume is quite small. At least it aint dead yet. And people still buying them despite how small the volume was.
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Considering how small the 24h volume was, it could be a market manipulation or someone trying to bait the price to go up. It's a common thing actually. It has quite a good amount of market cap. But the daily volume is quite small. At least it aint dead yet. And people still buying them despite how small the volume was.

This is worst than a bull trap, because engaging to this kind of investment can be brutal. this is what we called pump and dump coin. if the price will fall, you cannot get back what you invested. because the price will not increase anymore after they dumped it.  the best thing you could do is leave this kind of coin, just ignore it.

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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
We never expect sometime for these shitcoins can go higher the price and we surprise that go up early and reach the price quietly. But sometimes a shitcoin are still in no value if listed in a exchange site. And we ignore it and remove from our wallet because of no value in a future. I want to ask you, did you buy that kind of shitcoin raise in a high price? If you do maybe you earn profit for buying on it.

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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
I understand your despair but those projects will never go away, when greedy investors get to pick if they desire to invest in bitcoin and expect to get 100% or even 200% each year or they can invest in an altcoin and get that in a single day which one do you think they will choose? As long as this market is dominated by speculators you can be sure this is never going to end, but forget about them eventually they will lose their money while those that invest in good coins will have the last laugh.
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November 03, 2019, 04:14:51 AM
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pumping the price of tokens like this is very easy because of the small daily transaction volume.
Exchanger options are also few, so don't be surprised by the price increase.
You only need a little capital to pump.

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November 03, 2019, 04:29:54 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

If that coin is don't have a real product i think it's just the whale's bait to attract people to invest on them because the coins looks promising.
The latest people who invest on it when the whales doing mass sell is the one who get baited and they will lost much of their assets. I think we should learn more about the coin if we see a coin that experienced price pump more than 100% in a short time, if there is a very good news from it maybe we should trust it a little bit, but we have to learn further also.
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November 03, 2019, 05:08:22 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
We can't do anything about shitcoins. This is basically a market of manipulation and sin. many frauds and price increases are just a hopeless attempt.
ignore shitcoins, because the investors there are amateur investors. We are not too worried about that, they will soon sell the coins and move on to invest in the top coins.

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November 03, 2019, 05:14:49 AM
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We all know that this shutcoins wants to gain what they want because they want that investor to fall their marketing strategy. And after they gain what their goal of profit by the investor they will gone like a bubble. So better to avoid shitckins or else lose your investment. Invest to right coin that give you nice profit not in just a shitcoins.
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The purchase of such altcoins always runs as a quick lottery. I think everyone understands that this is a fust pumping up of the price and then there will be a quick dump.
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November 03, 2019, 11:35:46 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
What regulations are you referring?its every investors rights on what they wanna do with their money and if they want to invest in certain coin to make a pump and dump it’s not against the rules
ANd besides nothing’s wrong with this because some favors this and some are victims ,that’s the market cycle and must happen to prove how crypto market is healthy .

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The purchase of such altcoins always runs as a quick lottery. I think everyone understands that this is a fust pumping up of the price and then there will be a quick dump.

Indeed! these are just casual pump and dump in most shit coins in the market.If you do able to get in on earlier or had able to purchase before it pumped then youre lucky if not
then you would be caught up on the dump and ending on holding shitcoins.This isnt really a new thing though because any coins can possibly be pumped up for sole purpose
which is to make money into those who bag holds. Creating some sort of shilling or giving out some signal to noobs to purchase their token then suddenly dumped.

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November 03, 2019, 01:07:29 PM
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We all know that this shutcoins wants to gain what they want because they want that investor to fall their marketing strategy. And after they gain what their goal of profit by the investor they will gone like a bubble. So better to avoid shitckins or else lose your investment. Invest to right coin that give you nice profit not in just a shitcoins.
With so many shitcoins the best that we can do is to stay away on this kind of coin. True, mostly who create this want to gain money from investors. So better we should have a proper assessment before we invest and let us not fall on this kind of bait. Another shitcoin pop up in the market and we cannot avoid those who would like to invest.
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November 03, 2019, 01:09:59 PM
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The purchase of such altcoins always runs as a quick lottery. I think everyone understands that this is a fust pumping up of the price and then there will be a quick dump.

Indeed! these are just casual pump and dump in most shit coins in the market.If you do able to get in on earlier or had able to purchase before it pumped then youre lucky if not
then you would be caught up on the dump and ending on holding shitcoins.This isnt really a new thing though because any coins can possibly be pumped up for sole purpose
which is to make money into those who bag holds. Creating some sort of shilling or giving out some signal to noobs to purchase their token then suddenly dumped.
I think everyone should know or already know about that kind of strategic pump that's trying to bait the bigger fish. The good old days of shit coins are long gone since the era of ICO disappear because of unstoppable scams almost every altcoins. Investors are trying hard to get back their lost investment through the other project while hoping that there would be no scam again.

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The purchase of such altcoins always runs as a quick lottery. I think everyone understands that this is a fust pumping up of the price and then there will be a quick dump.
I understand it's just manipulation so that it becomes a condition to trap some investors or traders ,especially for newbies that they are definitely after due to minimal knowledge ,this scenario has been around since altcoin and many markets have springing up in 2013 ago

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November 03, 2019, 01:46:26 PM
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shitcoin will forever shitcoin, my advice is better to avoid coins like that except for people who want to get a profit, it's up to you.

The purchase of such altcoins always runs as a quick lottery. I think everyone understands that this is a fust pumping up of the price and then there will be a quick dump.
I understand it's just manipulation so that it becomes a condition to trap some investors or traders ,especially for newbies that they are definitely after due to minimal knowledge ,this scenario has been around since altcoin and many markets have springing up in 2013 ago
traps from the project team and big investors. The newbie taking part in the trade will immediately lose all his money. this is often happens to shitcoin.

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November 03, 2019, 01:49:31 PM
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shitcoin will forever shitcoin, my advice is better to avoid coins like that except for people who want to get a profit, it's up to you.

The purchase of such altcoins always runs as a quick lottery. I think everyone understands that this is a fust pumping up of the price and then there will be a quick dump.
I understand it's just manipulation so that it becomes a condition to trap some investors or traders ,especially for newbies that they are definitely after due to minimal knowledge ,this scenario has been around since altcoin and many markets have springing up in 2013 ago
traps from the project team and big investors. The newbie taking part in the trade will immediately lose all his money. this is often happens to shitcoin.

It depends on how clever the investor go in and go out. I think it's could be a chance for a quick profits if we can enter in the right time and out in the right time.
But anyway it's not recommeded to do because too high risk and yeah you're right, it's just like a lottery because no news from the coins and no updates just a random pump that can be dump anytime and it's up to the whales
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November 03, 2019, 03:56:23 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP?
Not new when altcoin whose volume is low can experience a huge increase. I've even seen it based on coinmarketcap data. there is an altcoin that is able to go up 300% in more than 24 hours. when I check this statistics it turns out that trading there is quite low so that there is a potential for such a big increase. You can check on the forkdelta where there are dead tokens that have no volume but sometimes have a huge increase  Cheesy

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November 03, 2019, 04:05:14 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

Someone is mad because they have a tons of XRP and the price won't move , calm down man. That is a pure pump&dump in that coins so check it again in 48 hours and see how low the price will get. Also you think that small amount of money will pump xrp's price ? Then you don't understand crypto especially when you want regulations.

Pump and dumps happens all the time in those kind of altcoins.

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November 03, 2019, 05:07:37 PM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
You will see many shit coins moving a long way on a daily basis if you check the coin market cap and there is nothing you can do about it, people are making money and there is manipulation in the market and it is hard to predict for a normal trader like me to understand which coins is going to pump and hence i usually avoid all these pump and dump coins.
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Manipulation and trap project for those of you who are interested in trading in it. Manipulation of volume with pump and dump will be very fast. This will make a loss if you force it. It is better to stay away from coins with unnatural increases, don't buy coins when going up at% 155, when the money drops dramatically, your money will disappear.

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November 03, 2019, 08:50:43 PM
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Manipulation and trap project for those of you who are interested in trading in it. Manipulation of volume with pump and dump will be very fast. This will make a loss if you force it. It is better to stay away from coins with unnatural increases, don't buy coins when going up at% 155, when the money drops dramatically, your money will disappear.
you are right to not buying this shitcoin, it is very dangerous to buy this pump and dump coin

but, we often to avoid chance in cryptocurrency. pump and dump coin can make us profit if we know how to do it

sometimes, i buy shitcoin with tight stoploss, so i never get big lose with high possibilty return

it can give me big profit same as the risk too. just view on the other side, not always to avoid/ skeptical about something
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November 07, 2019, 02:02:06 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
What regulations are you referring?its every investors rights on what they wanna do with their money and if they want to invest in certain coin to make a pump and dump it’s not against the rules
As much as I do not like those kind of altcoins which are there just to speculate with them there is nothing wrong with them, no investor is being forced to invest in them and if they want to do it then that is their problem, I would advice them to not do it but when it comes to cryptocurrencies we know we are completely free to do as we wish, I just hope they do not regret their decision as most likely such token will crash to less than 10% of its value during the next days.
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November 07, 2019, 02:12:13 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.

unfortunatelly XRP is a project that 80% of the coins are held by insiders
you can make money with that, but you can not bring it as an example for a real project
i will never put my life savings in a project like this
think about it.. its just not safe to make investment plan in an asset that controlled mostly by 1 party, and most of the coins are not in circulation
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unfortunatelly XRP is a project that 80% of the coins are held by insiders
you can make money with that, but you can not bring it as an example for a real project
i will never put my life savings in a project like this
think about it.. its just not safe to make investment plan in an asset that controlled mostly by 1 party, and most of the coins are not in circulation
they have a road map, you have to understand that first. it's good that coins are held by their teams and private investors. that means they have a really strong development fund. although manipulation can be done at any time, but no developer wants the value of their coins to be destroyed. not just XRP, most projects do the same manipulation. this is the effort of the developer to increase adoption and trade. but that is only for projects that are good and have a good trade in the market. if for assets that do not have a product we better avoid it even though in the market they have a large pump.
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I don't feel tempted by the current price of WIX, which is arguably being pumped, it is very unnatural and too kicky, and I smell the trap at the current price of WIX  Smiley . It could be that it is their strategy to attract interested investors or traders to be more intense in the movement of Wix. Yes it is speculation and prediction from market regulation. But judging from the roadmap and process of Wix, it is arguably appropriate if Wix is currently occupying a good performance in the market. But it is also the most harsh how you react to it, which certainly has all its risks.

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November 07, 2019, 07:44:37 AM
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don't expect shitcoin, I personally do not expect shitcoin, because it is only a coin pump and dump, I have several shitcoins that I bought, and experienced a dump of more than 50%. so I was pessimistic and chose not to think about it. if you have funds, it's better to buy real coins, like BTC, ETH, STR, BNB, ... because the increase in shitcoin is just fake.
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November 07, 2019, 08:46:42 AM
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this is of course a classic p&d game. you can recognize it by the comparatively small volume.
and to have more meaningful data please rather rely on cmc and no dubious sources. that's definitely better. Smiley
and generally best to keep away from everything that had such an increase. 99% of it comes back just as fast.
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November 07, 2019, 09:32:32 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
pump and dump is normal in crypto you must know that anyway Welcome to Cryptocurrency community.
dont bother about those scenarios because that indicates the healthiness of market and that still people are trusting the investments here.
and Riplple?no thats impossible to happen because this is cryptocurrency and we need privacy here thats why we are deregulated,dont push your idea because no one will listen to you.

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November 07, 2019, 09:56:41 AM
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When will these shit coins go away so all the damn money spent on them can go to real projects like Ripple's XRP? We need regulations now.

Wixlar (WIX) today's price is $0.0225 with a current market cap of $53,889,162.00. Wixlar (WIX) 24-hour price change is 155.54% up.
I agree with you that the coins are shitcoins, but what point is it to leave those coins and go to invest in ripple when you know that ripple is not a project that I see as an investment coin. I guess majority of ripple holder are still looking at when ripple found its value to $4, and that was totally because of bitcoin bull run.

Before ripple can make any increase, it will still have to depend on bitcoin, and I don’t think that there is any increase in x that can be higher than bitcoin, so what is the point in holding ripple when you can just simply make investment in bitcoin. What usually confuse people is the fact that they think ripple is cheap, and that bitcoin is expensive, but it is not about that, but it is about how much they can grow as a multiplier.
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This is an accident, not a normal day incident! You can't tell which shitcoin price will go up and what is the exact reason behind it!  Even I feel wonder who gives the value to these shit coins! Because this sudden pump is very harmful in many ways to the altcoin markets. Altcoin markets are suffering because of these shitcoin and many dead/scam projects!

Bitcoin is gonna hit 100K usd
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Arguably is arguable;) I think any objective person who views altcoins objectively must accept that they are vulnerable to pumps AND dumps. Nothing natural about how they shoot up, like WIX. No community worth mentioning, not utility worth showing off. It's 99% speculators driving the market for WIX and most other altcoins.

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I don't feel tempted by the current price of WIX, which is arguably being pumped, it is very unnatural and too kicky, and I smell the trap at the current price of WIX  Smiley . It could be that it is their strategy to attract interested investors or traders to be more intense in the movement of Wix. Yes it is speculation and prediction from market regulation. But judging from the roadmap and process of Wix, it is arguably appropriate if Wix is currently occupying a good performance in the market. But it is also the most harsh how you react to it, which certainly has all its risks.
And just a few days later the price of the coin went from 0.0225 to 0.0047 which is an 80% crash from that price and that coin has crashed 97% since its all time high and reached its all time low just a few days ago, many never take the time to see what happens to coins after they pump and this is clear evidence that it is not worth to invest in those coins, by the time you see the growth of that coin and you try to take advantage of it then it is too late.
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