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May 26, 2020, 01:09:29 PM
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Another candidate just added Smiley good luck to Last of the V8s Wink

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 Cool
How very kind you are. Thank you and good luck to all.

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June 01, 2020, 06:22:54 AM
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OP, another application from mikeywith:

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Thank you for the tip, the OP is now updated. Another two applications aslo included, just a side note the listing doesn't care about any nationality or race.

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June 01, 2020, 09:24:30 PM
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just a side note the listing doesn't care about any nationality or race.
No, not really, the last one (vycl87) merited his own application from alt account and self vouched. Account shouldn't be in that list, but I guess you are maintaining list of all users who applied.

I don't know, merit source who is gaming system in every possible way shouldn't be source, but that's my opinion.
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June 01, 2020, 09:49:57 PM
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just a side note the listing doesn't care about any nationality or race.
No, not really, the last one (vycl87) merited his own application from alt account and self vouched. Account shouldn't be in that list, but I guess you are maintaining list of all users who applied.

I don't know, merit source who is gaming system in every possible way shouldn't be source, but that's my opinion.

Did an update on the list with a note that the account is under investigation, this will give me a time to read about those connected accounts. BTW I haven't seen any comment from vycl87 on the case (i might missed something tho). He should at least try to defend/explain what is going on. This sole action of silence (if there is not replay yet)  is weird.
Anyway, as you said the list I want to be just a list of application, no matter the reputation of the applicant. I have ~wolwoo but I still keep his application on that list.

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June 01, 2020, 10:21:03 PM
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just a side note the listing doesn't care about any nationality or race.
No, not really, the last one (vycl87) merited his own application from alt account and self vouched. Account shouldn't be in that list, but I guess you are maintaining list of all users who applied.

I don't know, merit source who is gaming system in every possible way shouldn't be source, but that's my opinion.

Did an update on the list with a note that the account is under investigation, this will give me a time to read about those connected accounts. BTW I haven't seen any comment from vycl87 on the case (i might missed something tho). He should at least try to defend/explain what is going on. This sole action of silence (if there is not replay yet)  is weird.
Anyway, as you said the list I want to be just a list of application, no matter the reputation of the applicant. I have ~wolwoo but I still keep his application on that list.

Bearded:  You may want to consider just clarifying OP to say that your creation / maintenance of this thread/list is not meant to either support or oppose the listed applications, and that if any member wants to support or oppose such applicants, they can provide links to other threads in this thread that support or oppose such applications, but that this thread is not intended for discussing the endorsement or opposition of such applicants... and that might clarify without you having to take any position beyond merely listing applicants while also allowing members to link their support or opposition threads, if any.

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June 02, 2020, 01:08:49 AM
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Bearded:  You may want to consider just clarifying OP to say that your creation / maintenance of this thread/list is not meant to either support or oppose the listed applications, and that if any member wants to support or oppose such applicants, they can provide links to other threads in this thread that support or oppose such applications, but that this thread is not intended for discussing the endorsement or opposition of such applicants... and that might clarify without you having to take any position beyond merely listing applicants while also allowing members to link their support or opposition threads, if any.

And that it's an "Unofficial" or "informal" list of "expressions of interest" given that the process of "applying" doesn't seem to have its own thread where there is an announcement made and the "applicants" then make their cases in the one thread.

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June 02, 2020, 01:39:19 AM
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Bearded:  You may want to consider just clarifying OP to say that your creation / maintenance of this thread/list is not meant to either support or oppose the listed applications, and that if any member wants to support or oppose such applicants, they can provide links to other threads in this thread that support or oppose such applications, but that this thread is not intended for discussing the endorsement or opposition of such applicants... and that might clarify without you having to take any position beyond merely listing applicants while also allowing members to link their support or opposition threads, if any.

And that it's an "Unofficial" or "informal" list of "expressions of interest" given that the process of "applying" doesn't seem to have its own thread where there is an announcement made and the "applicants" then make their cases in the one thread.

That's true.  Theymos had kind of left it up to each applicant to create his/her own thread on the topic, and possibly it could have been easier to follow in a single thread... which could be part of what Bearded had been attempting to achieve with this thread.

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June 02, 2020, 01:00:45 PM
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Thank you guys for responding, I updated the OP with a disclaimer note and added the last merit source application.
Hope now it's clear that his is only a list of applicants.

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June 07, 2020, 06:25:21 AM
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7      wolwoo      Application      30-Nov-19   
   

You can remove this application from the list, as wolwoo ceased trying to become a merit source.

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June 18, 2020, 11:43:14 AM
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Thank you guys for the information, I'll removed the closed one and I will add the new one tomorrow.
The list is getting longer but we haven't heard anything from theymos yet. Now there are more than six months since the last update.

7 months now...

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I've really thought someone has opened up a new thread about this, LoL. Didn't know it was just you iasenko. Changed Name. Though how much longer do you think we still need to wait before a few changes on MSs?
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I've really thought someone has opened up a new thread about this, LoL. Didn't know it was just you iasenko. Changed Name. Though how much longer do you think we still need to wait before a few changes on MSs?

Things changed but I'm still tje same.
Now I have no clue how long we need to wait. Gmaxwell mentioned something about six months or so but now since we already crossed half a year we might need to just bump this until themos decides that it's time.
We wait...

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June 18, 2020, 07:52:12 PM
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Is there any badge for merit sources, or some plans to add this in future?
It would be good to know them and recognise them easy all if Theymos plans to expand and add more decentralization to merit distribution.

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June 18, 2020, 08:09:31 PM
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Is there any badge for merit sources, or some plans to add this in future?
No, there's no badge for merit sources, and there's probably no plan to add this;
there's a huge difference between showing up in a "list of probable merit sources" and having a quote out there of you basically saying "I'm a merit source, come beg me for merit, complain about every merit I send, and accuse me of being part of the anti-X/pro-Y conspiracy."

The list of merit sources is also not made public, it's a voluntary position and there's no need to expose them to scrutiny, anyone paying attention would likely know who they are eventually, but the spammers are not really doing that.

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June 18, 2020, 08:29:58 PM
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Is there any badge for merit sources, or some plans to add this in future?
No, there's no badge for merit sources, and there's probably no plan to add this;
there's a huge difference between showing up in a "list of probable merit sources" and having a quote out there of you basically saying "I'm a merit source, come beg me for merit, complain about every merit I send, and accuse me of being part of the anti-X/pro-Y conspiracy."

The list of merit sources is also not made public, it's a voluntary position and there's no need to expose them to scrutiny, anyone paying attention would likely know who they are eventually, but the spammers are not really doing that.

I agree with everything you said, Upgrade00, and I will elaborate by mentioning that theymos had specifically announced that it was not his intention to announce merit sources because he did not want to encourage merit begging (or excessive merit begging, if there is a difference?).

But, surely one of the better threads on the topic of attempting to suss out who may or may not be a merit source (to the extent that they have not admitted being a merit source) has been maintained by Coin-1 through the past couple of years.  It is called: 

   
[TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits

Maybe the name of the thread is not exactly literally accurate, but it is still an interesting thread that largely seems to assign a creative approach and a convincing degree of confidence to which members are considered to be or are not merit sources.  By the way, Coin-1 has been doing a great service to the forum to provide this information, even while source members still can attempt to maintain some plausible deniability, unless some of the source members have actually admitted to their source status (but still, plausible deniability in terms of any time that source status could be removed)...

By the way, one of my own funny stories is that when merit source status was first announced, I was confused by the whole thing, and I had read theymos's assertion that he was not going to announce who were the merit source, and asserted that members will likely figure it out with the passage of time, but then a few posts later, he was finger pointing at me, even though I have never really completely admitted to it, except for just proclaiming that I know things about my practices in regards to smerits, and maybe some other quasi-incriminating but attempting to be somewhat vague admissions.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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I've really thought someone has opened up a new thread about this, LoL. Didn't know it was just you iasenko. Changed Name. Though how much longer do you think we still need to wait before a few changes on MSs?

Things changed but I'm still tje same.
Now I have no clue how long we need to wait. Gmaxwell mentioned something about six months or so but now since we already crossed half a year we might need to just bump this until themos decides that it's time.
We wait...
Seems like reasonable... But if we're going to count it by then it should be 3mos or so, though I just hope we really can see changes by this time especially the ones who're asking for another increase just like me.

Just been saving so I won't run out again...
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June 24, 2020, 07:44:55 PM
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Things changed but I'm still tje same.
Now I have no clue how long we need to wait. Gmaxwell mentioned something about six months or so but now since we already crossed half a year we might need to just bump this until themos decides that it's time.
We wait...
Seems like reasonable... But if we're going to count it by then it should be 3mos or so, though I just hope we really can see changes by this time especially the ones who're asking for another increase just like me.

Just been saving so I won't run out again...

I was expecting something  to happen around Jun 14 too. I mean excatly six months. Now, we all know how theymos loves to delegate tedious duties to algorithms, but actually the strict 6 months deadline might have been a little bit too much: everyone (or many of us) were expecting a revision around that time, so someone could have "played" with merits habits to present himself ready for that appointment. I guess he might value a little bit of "randomness" or "human touch" dealing with such delicate aspects.

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Things changed but I'm still tje same.
Now I have no clue how long we need to wait. Gmaxwell mentioned something about six months or so but now since we already crossed half a year we might need to just bump this until themos decides that it's time.
We wait...
Seems like reasonable... But if we're going to count it by then it should be 3mos or so, though I just hope we really can see changes by this time especially the ones who're asking for another increase just like me.

Just been saving so I won't run out again...

I was expecting something  to happen around Jun 14 too. I mean excatly six months. Now, we all know how theymos loves to delegate tedious duties to algorithms, but actually the strict 6 months deadline might have been a little bit too much: everyone (or many of us) were expecting a revision around that time, so someone could have "played" with merits habits to present himself ready for that appointment. I guess he might value a little bit of "randomness" or "human touch" dealing with such delicate aspects.

I'm fine waiting, anyway I have so much to do this summer so the time spent on the forum is not that much anymore.
From September til New year's eve I'll be home on a leave so maybe I'll have some more time then, if the house project is over by then. As i said I can wait, theymos is a great guy so whenever he decides to take some steps I'll be there to help Smiley

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