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November 05, 2019, 05:59:25 PM
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2016-2019 the WAVES community was promised a swap of Sasha Ivanovs old NXT ICOs.
Until today nothing has happened and a community member started to distribute INDEX and CRYPTOFUND nxt assets to alot of members.
www.longlivesasha.com
Now came a answer from Petr Korotin (Waves Manager) that says:

"We are thrilled to announce that all the tokens from the latest revealed list are being swapped successfully and every holder received $WCT (Waves Community Token) in exchange for them."

This is a lie, until now nobody received something for their COINOMAT, CRYPTOFUND, INDEX, NEXT nxt assets.

Sasha therefore will keep the funds for himself.

The old nxt assets are still traded on Nxt Dex.

https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/coinomat-assets/

https://steemit.com/waves/@tecem/the-n-e-xt-chapter-in-the-nxt-asset-swap-to-wavesplatform

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November 05, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
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Thats what Petr Korotin wrote, and its a straight out lie. Nobody of the old investors got something:
"We are thrilled to announce that all the tokens from the latest revealed list are being swapped successfully and every holder received $WCT (Waves Community Token) in exchange for them.
In case you've been a long-time holder of any NXT asset and would like to learn more about the procedure of swap in your particular case, then just email us via: pkorotin@wavesplatform.com
Each case will be considered separately and the final decision will be based mostly on the duration of an asset holding in your wallet. To be more precisely, you need to hold any of your NXT asset since 2016 in order to be eligible for the swap."

Please, if there is a old investor here, can you write how you feel about this scam ?

Sasha didnt swap INDEX which is probably the most successful ETF of all time, its worth millions
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My index and cryptofund is also not swapped yet. They say I am not a long time holder!
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November 05, 2019, 06:13:42 PM
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Questions in waves TG channel regarding this are forwarded to this Petr. He comes with copy paste answers which are incorrect, as stated. If one tries to find out more in mainchannel, posts are deleted and a ban is the result.


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November 05, 2019, 06:17:07 PM
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Questions in waves TG channel regarding this are forwarded to this Petr. He comes with copy paste answers which are incorrect, as stated. If one tries to find out more in mainchannel, posts are deleted and a ban is the result.


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November 05, 2019, 06:20:35 PM
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Also, Mr Ivanov promised to get his enterprise edition of waves, named Vostok at that time, on multiple exchanges. He promised a public sale, by using waves only, with minimum of 1,60$.
Guess what, after hyping and lying about projects using vostok, he sold it all! Leaving his hardcore believers and cummunity in the dark. Vostok is now doing 0.08$ No multiple exchanges, no projects, no guaranteed 1,60$ BUT... he has enriched himself by 120million.
Be aware, be very aware by this dubious CEO.
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November 05, 2019, 06:27:10 PM
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My index and cryptofund is also not swapped yet. They say I am not a long time holder!
I dont understand why they swap their asset only from old users? In my mind it should be 100% swapped and burned
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November 05, 2019, 06:29:05 PM
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Because that way they will earn, simple.
If you just discard some swapps, you dont have to give away money.
Just business, made personal.
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My index and cryptofund is also not swapped yet. They say I am not a long time holder!
I dont understand why they swap their asset only from old users? In my mind it should be 100% swapped and burned

Old holders haven't got the swap either...




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Because that way they will earn, simple.
If you just discard some swapps, you dont have to give away money.
Just business, made personal.
But it hurts their image. A measly <600 BTC as i remember Undecided
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I don't think this is the right section for your thread. Speculation topic is for speculating. Maybe your topic will get more eyes in the altcoin discussion section or better yet, post a reply in the Waves announcement section. Moderators might put this into the scam accusation section.


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November 05, 2019, 06:38:34 PM
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My index and cryptofund is also not swapped yet. They say I am not a long time holder!
I dont understand why they swap their asset only from old users? In my mind it should be 100% swapped and burned

Old holders haven't got the swap either...





Yes, didn't received anything yet. And now his "community manager" is threaten me like a dog.

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I don't think this is the right section for your thread. Speculation topic is for speculating. Maybe your topic will get more eyes in the altcoin discussion section or better yet, post a reply in the Waves announcement section. Moderators might put this into the scam accusation section.

Waves is lying and censoring us, we need to spread the word and warn people about trusting in Sasha Ivanov.

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They've been promising this swapping for years and up to this day its yet not happening. Sasha must have been protecting NXT from collapsing too, you can see what would happening if its all going to be done while its on its brink of dying. Even waves isn't one of the best project to come in mind right now that there are lots of platforms best used for developing projects.

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November 05, 2019, 06:48:58 PM
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I don't think this is the right section for your thread. Speculation topic is for speculating. Maybe your topic will get more eyes in the altcoin discussion section or better yet, post a reply in the Waves announcement section. Moderators might put this into the scam accusation section.

Waves is lying and censoring us, we need to spread the word and warn people about trusting in Sasha Ivanov.

But, buddy. Who will read your message in Bitcointalk except Wave holders? Try to post in their announcement thread or even in their sub-Reddit. Another venue would be Twitter. A lot of more crypto peeps use Twitter.


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I don't think this is the right section for your thread. Speculation topic is for speculating. Maybe your topic will get more eyes in the altcoin discussion section or better yet, post a reply in the Waves announcement section. Moderators might put this into the scam accusation section.

Waves is lying and censoring us, we need to spread the word and warn people about trusting in Sasha Ivanov.

But, buddy. Who will read your message in Bitcointalk except Wave holders? Try to post in their announcement thread or even in their sub-Reddit. Another venue would be Twitter. A lot of more crypto peeps use Twitter.

I'll do it.Many thanks Smiley

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November 05, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
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2016-2019 the WAVES community was promised a swap of Sasha Ivanovs old NXT ICOs.
Until today nothing has happened and a community member started to distribute INDEX and CRYPTOFUND nxt assets to alot of members.
www.longlivesasha.com
Now came a answer from Petr Korotin (Waves Manager) that says:

"We are thrilled to announce that all the tokens from the latest revealed list are being swapped successfully and every holder received $WCT (Waves Community Token) in exchange for them."

This is a lie, until now nobody received something for their COINOMAT, CRYPTOFUND, INDEX, NEXT nxt assets.

Sasha therefore will keep the funds for himself.

The old nxt assets are still traded on Nxt Dex.

https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/coinomat-assets/

Ouch.  I guess this shouldn't surprise me, ive always been critical of sasha, he always seems to pull stuff like this, pull the rug out from people after the fact Sad
Guy's arrogant and dosent care about the common man and the people that made him his money, thats for sure : /
Thx for the heads up on this man, here's hoping for a positive outcome for investors as this progresses

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November 05, 2019, 07:05:00 PM
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Well, something new is in progress for me Ivanov, another moneygrab crowdfunding for his Tokenomica. Yes, apparently he needs more funds, remarkably while it used to be on Waves' roadmap for a long time.
Mind you, mr Ivanov is sitting on 30k btc ico for waves and 120million for selling Vostok. Apart from all btc forks we can conclude he is worth around 500million$. He wabts more, and by not swapping NXT assets he gives the impression he wants it all.
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November 05, 2019, 07:18:30 PM
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you all post this on waves thread, i remember he also mentioned this there but were not tackled again for years. i'm a waves holder too, but things like this should have been addressed longtime ago before he does some more sidechains. NXT assets is actually hard to use for a newbie, so it deserves attention.

Well, something new is in progress for me Ivanov, another moneygrab crowdfunding for his Tokenomica. Yes, apparently he needs more funds, remarkably while it used to be on Waves' roadmap for a long time.
Mind you, mr Ivanov is sitting on 30k btc ico for waves and 120million for selling Vostok. Apart from all btc forks we can conclude he is worth around 500million$. He wabts more, and by not swapping NXT assets he gives the impression he wants it all.

no projects right now receives that much of funds from investors. its just crazy that he just kept it for himself.


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The management does not want to enclose details how ico funds is spent, nor how much of it is left.
Some funds were reserved for marketing, but the amount of marketing is laughable.
Just saying, draw your own conclusions.
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