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November 06, 2019, 07:10:23 PM
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If there is no life after death, then why people die ? Why not people remain always young and healthy and never die ?

Who made you rich and poor and whatever will happen tomorrow, who is controlling it ? Who is moving the earth and bringing the Day and Night ?

Who made our appearances and fate different from each other ?  

Who are You and Me ?  Do you have control on when you should be born and when you should die ? By whom orders all this is being done ?

The one who created us, will make all the people alive again and then you might remember what i just told.

1. We die because of evolution. It's complex, but it's all about investment of finite energy. Your genes put some energy into keeping you alive, and some into the creation and survival of your potential descendants. If your genes put 100% effort into keeping you alive, you wouldn't have any children and so the genes would not survive. And even with 100% investment, you'd still succumb eventually to a random accident. It's statistically inevitable. Have a read of this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/13/biologically-speaking-this-is-why-humans-are-born-to-die/#245648084a48
2. Rich and poor - society, and to an extent your own actions.
3. Gravity moves the Earth. We are falling around the Sun, due to gravity.
4. Rotation of the Earth causes day and night.
5. Appearances different - evolution.
6. Fate different. Circumstances, our own actions, and blind chance.
7. You and me - we are complex organisms that have evolved from simple single-celled organisms over billions of years of natural selection and countless minor random mutations.
8. You have no control over when you are born.
9. You potentially have some control over when you will die. Circumstances, your own actions, blind luck.
10. No-one's orders. Pure physics (which begets chemistry and biology).
11. There is not 'one who created us'. There is not a scrap of evidence for that. Whereas the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.
12. If there was a God, he'd be showering me with sMerit for all the work I'm putting in on these P&S threads.
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If there is no life after death, then why people die ? Why not people remain always young and healthy and never die ?
Because humans suffer from trauma and disease, and human cells are imperfect at repairing/replacing themselves and so slowly acquire mutations which will eventually impair their functioning or kill them. This isn't some mystical concept like you seem to be making it out to be.

How long lasts eternity when you can't feel it?
How long did the last 13.77 billions years feel before you were born? I imagine it's fairly similar after you're dead.
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why people die ?

The question 'why do people die?' can be answered quite easily. I covered it above, but I can go at it from a slightly different angle if you want. I really wish people understood evolution better. Obviously there's more to it, but it's easier on this forum to approach it piece by piece. Let's discuss mutations.

Mutations - negative in this context - can manifest at any time in your life.
Early-onset mutations (those that cover the period of your life when you are at breeding age) are selected out. If you carry a mutation that is going to kill you in your teenage years, you won't reproduce to pass the mutation on.
Late-onset mutations (those that occur after breeding age) - guess what? Exactly. They are not selected out. You've already passed on your genes, and any late-onset stuff is included with that.

In this way, as we go from generation to generation we carry more and more crap that manifests as 'elderly' diseases. We are time bombs waiting to go off (after we've passed breeding age that is). Our bodies pack up because nothing has happened to prevent it.

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You will know it if you are totally dead because how others will know there are no proof that you can exactly can say on what happen when you die.  I think you will the one who can know it but don't try it immediately because you cannot comeback because of your curiosity.

There are many religion or beliefs of the religion but I think all of us doesn't know what will happen.



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November 07, 2019, 03:49:47 PM
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This is most likely going to be a spam board for people in campaigns, but I'll throw my two cents in on this highly philospophical question.

Well the most basic level of that is that we're going to be put into the dirt and slowly decompose. It's a great process folks!

But further, do we go to Heaven or not? Who the fuck knows, and no one on this board or on this Earth that is still alive is going to be able to tell you.

The only thing that we all know is that we're going to decompose and bugs are going to eat us. That's the only thing anyone can fully confirm about death.




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November 07, 2019, 04:48:44 PM
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This is most likely going to be a spam board for people in campaigns, but I'll throw my two cents in on this highly philospophical question.

Well the most basic level of that is that we're going to be put into the dirt and slowly decompose. It's a great process folks!

But further, do we go to Heaven or not? Who the fuck knows, and no one on this board or on this Earth that is still alive is going to be able to tell you.

The only thing that we all know is that we're going to decompose and bugs are going to eat us. That's the only thing anyone can fully confirm about death.

No, we absolutely won't be placed into the dirt to be decomposed by worms and bugs. Ask yourself. Is that you going down the drain every time you use the toilet? I mean, do you feel yourself going along through the piping after you flush? It isn't you. It's simply some stuff that used to be part of you.

The point is, at death, you have been changed. The part of you that is your "self" or "identity," is where? Nobody knows for sure... or even if it exists any longer. God hasn't explained the details that we know of.

While we are still alive, the resurrection is the thing we should be focusing on, so that we do what it takes to have a right resurrection.

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November 09, 2019, 06:34:21 PM
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If there is no life after death, then why people die ? Why not people remain always young and healthy and never die ?
Because humans suffer from trauma and disease, and human cells are imperfect at repairing/replacing themselves and so slowly acquire mutations which will eventually impair their functioning or kill them. This isn't some mystical concept like you seem to be making it out to be.

How long lasts eternity when you can't feel it?
How long did the last 13.77 billions years feel before you were born? I imagine it's fairly similar after you're dead.

It is not as simple and i know i will not be able to convince you because its a spiritual concept but believe me all of us will be wake up again for the judgement day. The value of this world life is almost zero as compare to the ever lasting life in Heaven or Hell, where there will be no death.

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It is not as simple and i know i will not be able to convince you because its a spiritual concept but believe me all of us will be wake up again for the judgement day.
I choose not to believe you. You have no way of knowing what you are claiming, and there is zero evidence to support your position.

I am not interested in what other people think, feel, believe, etc. If you have evidence to support your position I'm all ears, but all evidence suggests there is no such thing as life after death.
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November 09, 2019, 08:51:26 PM
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It is not as simple and i know i will not be able to convince you because its a spiritual concept but believe me all of us will be wake up again for the judgement day.
I choose not to believe you. You have no way of knowing what you are claiming, and there is zero evidence to support your position.

I am not interested in what other people think, feel, believe, etc. If you have evidence to support your position I'm all ears, but all evidence suggests there is no such thing as life after death.

Consider for a moment, if I could convince you that there was life after death, a far better life than your miserable one. Then when you marched out on the battlefield as a poor foot-soldier, destined to die like thousands of others, you'd be marching forward toward the Afterlife.

You wouldn't even notice your life was miserable and you were a poor foot soldier. The enemy would think you were crazy.

Would that create a competitive advantage on the battlefield? If it would, then since today's culture is winning combination of techniques developed over thousands of years, then we would have those ideas in our culture today.

Oh wait, we do...
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It is not as simple and i know i will not be able to convince you because its a spiritual concept but believe me all of us will be wake up again for the judgement day.
I choose not to believe you. You have no way of knowing what you are claiming, and there is zero evidence to support your position.

I am not interested in what other people think, feel, believe, etc. If you have evidence to support your position I'm all ears, but all evidence suggests there is no such thing as life after death.

Consider for a moment, if I could convince you that there was life after death, a far better life than your miserable one. Then when you marched out on the battlefield as a poor foot-soldier, destined to die like thousands of others, you'd be marching forward toward the Afterlife.

You wouldn't even notice your life was miserable and you were a poor foot soldier. The enemy would think you were crazy.

Would that create a competitive advantage on the battlefield? If it would, then since today's culture is winning combination of techniques developed over thousands of years, then we would have those ideas in our culture today.

Oh wait, we do...

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I should point out that observation of death does not equal experience. Can anybody here claim to have personally experienced death?
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I should point out that observation of death does not equal experience. Can anybody here claim to have personally experienced death?

That's why it is faith in God that is important.

We can see by nature that God exists. But we need to know that we are going to find eternal life. We don't know it, however. We simply believe that God has prepared it for us... except if we don't believe, that is. And that is what God requires... that we believe him.

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^^^ Are you claiming that death is a hoax?
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November 10, 2019, 05:27:58 AM
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It is not as simple and i know i will not be able to convince you because its a spiritual concept but believe me all of us will be wake up again for the judgement day.
I choose not to believe you. You have no way of knowing what you are claiming, and there is zero evidence to support your position.

I am not interested in what other people think, feel, believe, etc. If you have evidence to support your position I'm all ears, but all evidence suggests there is no such thing as life after death.

Unfortunately, when have no way to know what happens with a dead person, so whatever i will say i have no evidence to show you.
But i can give you one example as there are three stages on people life.

1- He is in the mother Womb and that's a whole world where he breathes drink eat etc and one day find out that it was a small temporary place when he come to a bigger world on earth.

2- He thinks that he is living in this earth and this is all until he falls to death which is a transformation from this world to the next stage.

3- When you will reach the last phase of your life, in heaven or hell, then you will think the time you spend on the earth was just temporary and now you are living in bigger world forever.


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November 10, 2019, 05:39:01 AM
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^^^ Are you claiming that death is a hoax?

Death is not a hoax because we have observable, verifiable and easily replicable evidence.
Life after death however...
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November 10, 2019, 06:20:57 AM
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^^^ Are you claiming that death is a hoax?

I have asked this question here and few of the people do believe that death is an Hoax. Few believe that there is another world after the death while many of them says that we will just decay after death and that's all in life.

I think no one has gone come back after the death to tell us what exactly happened after the death but its scary. Isn't ?
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^^^ Are you claiming that death is a hoax?

I have asked this question here and few of the people do believe that death is an Hoax. Few believe that there is another world after the death while many of them says that we will just decay after death and that's all in life.

I think no one has gone come back after the death to tell us what exactly happened after the death but its scary. Isn't ?

Yes, it's scary. But I do also think that the inevitability of death helps to give meaning to life. It makes every second precious.
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November 10, 2019, 05:09:05 PM
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A flawed analogy. Fetuses in the womb have empirical evidence that there is an existence outside of the womb they live. They can feel the movement of their mother. They can hear sounds for the external world. They can feel people palpating their mother's abdomen. They react to changes in their mother's hormone levels. We have not a single shred of evidence that there is any existence beyond the life we live.

Once again, without being disrespectful, I'm not interested in beliefs, analogies, feelings, or similar. Science is based on evidence. The evidence does not support your position.
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November 10, 2019, 05:15:34 PM
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Well, our consciousness lives on. Consciousness can't really die, because for something to end, it has to have a start, our consciousness had no beginning. Our bodies had a beginning when we took birth, but our consciousness, self awareness is something more than just brain vibrations. It lives on, without a memory to store what it experiences after every instance, but it experiences every instant there after.
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November 10, 2019, 06:38:11 PM
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For me, bothering about what will happen after death is a waste of time for two reasons:

1. There is nothing you can do about it and

2. You probably won't know whatever is going on.

For the blunt guy about the decay and maggot feasting on the body, the moment you can feel it, you are not bothered their own prayers just got answered about seeing a new big meat. To the hopefuls of meeting and seeing our loved ones, I think we can only decide for ourselves when we get there. Live life to the fullest to the best of your ability and try to stay away from things that would keep you from having everlasting joy should we get to the other side and see there is life there.
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