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November 11, 2019, 07:51:22 AM
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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

The dump you are pertaining is a retracement for the price surcharge, This always occur once the buy power was already exhausted and it's nothing to fear about it if you are familiar on technical analysis of chart.
In the other hand. Price manipulation is the most scarier things for trader because you can't have basis for your trading and applying TA will just make your money burn. This always happened on bitmex.
I agree with that market manipulation is normal in crypto, Large marketcap coin is not an Exception. Even BTC(The largest markecap) are being manipulate by whale holders.. That's why crypto trading is risky compared to Forex and SE.

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November 11, 2019, 08:07:46 AM
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I think those two things are the same. dump occur because of market manipulation. so how can we choose one of them. Market manipulation causes pumps and dumps, this is the scariest. when you think the market is in a good line, but it turns out that waiting ahead is a dump.

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November 11, 2019, 08:10:12 AM
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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?
What often makes me feel scared is when the price drops dramatically. I don't really understand whether this is a coincidence, it often happens when I want to sell a coin suddenly the market has a overall price decline from bitcoin to altcoin.This made my mind a little annoyed because the coins I wanted to sell had diminished in value. Especially in my condition I needed cash
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November 11, 2019, 08:15:51 AM
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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?
Till date some belief that bitcoin the grandfather of all crypto can still be manipulated, i don't find it hard to believe because i know how powerful the whales are so we can't escape manipulation, as for coin dumps this mostly happens with not too good coins or tokens, i feared this the most, to avoid been a victim of coin dump i prefer to invest in top altoins

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November 11, 2019, 08:18:22 AM
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Every seasoned altcoin traders will prefer market manipulations over the price dump.
The price of any coin can still be corrected when manipulated since it is often caused by the whales trying to buy more or sell some of the coin/token in their wallet.
Price dump is often from the weak hands or developer of the coin trying to raise money, which ever way, price dump always keep the market on the low by shedding more than 200% of the actual price.

I prefer price manipulations over the price dump.
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November 11, 2019, 08:32:25 AM
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I think those two things are the same. dump occur because of market manipulation. so how can we choose one of them. Market manipulation causes pumps and dumps, this is the scariest. when you think the market is in a good line, but it turns out that waiting ahead is a dump.

You said manipulation caused the pump and dump. and obviously this is different right? Who's afraid when the market experiences pumping because of manipulation? no, they were all happy when they saw the bullrun market even though it was all because of manipulation.

so I ask, which is more frightening when manipulation makes it difficult for the market to make a reversal, and when the market is dumped by the Whales.



The dump you are pertaining is a retracement for the price surcharge, This always occur once the buy power was already exhausted and it's nothing to fear about it if you are familiar on technical analysis of chart.
In the other hand. Price manipulation is the most scarier things for trader because you can't have basis for your trading and applying TA will just make your money burn. This always happened on bitmex.
I agree with that market manipulation is normal in crypto, Large marketcap coin is not an Exception. Even BTC(The largest markecap) are being manipulate by whale holders.. That's why crypto trading is risky compared to Forex and SE.

No, what I mean is not such a dump. but when people sell to make prices fall very deep. like yesterday when bitcoin. I bought bitcoin at a price of 5K, I thought at that time the price was already at the lowest limit. but the reality is not like that, bitcoin falls deeper even under 3K. isn't that very scary?

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November 11, 2019, 08:37:44 AM
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The most scary is price dump, but there is assurance that price dumps will only occur on weak projects, pick top altcoins and you won't be in worries over price dumps

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November 11, 2019, 08:37:50 AM
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Every seasoned altcoin traders will prefer market manipulations over the price dump.
The price of any coin can still be corrected when manipulated since it is often caused by the whales trying to buy more or sell some of the coin/token in their wallet.
Price dump is often from the weak hands or developer of the coin trying to raise money, which ever way, price dump always keep the market on the low by shedding more than 200% of the actual price.

I prefer price manipulations over the price dump.
That is true, manipulation often occurs in every exchange and we can still minimize losses. But if the price dump has occurred and the cause comes from the developer itself, then we will definitely suffer losses, because everything is over and the developer has left the project.

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November 11, 2019, 08:51:28 AM
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Every seasoned altcoin traders will prefer market manipulations over the price dump.
The price of any coin can still be corrected when manipulated since it is often caused by the whales trying to buy more or sell some of the coin/token in their wallet.
Price dump is often from the weak hands or developer of the coin trying to raise money, which ever way, price dump always keep the market on the low by shedding more than 200% of the actual price.

I prefer price manipulations over the price dump.
That is true, manipulation often occurs in every exchange and we can still minimize losses. But if the price dump has occurred and the cause comes from the developer itself, then we will definitely suffer losses, because everything is over and the developer has left the project.

yes I agree, if it is caused by the development of the project. when a new project has no certainty there will always be a dump on the market, and in the end the coin will be delisted from the exchange. this is very scary for investors who dedicate themselves to the project. they get nothing but losses. manipulation can be compromised, because this is common. every time there is a pump there will always be a dump and vice versa. like now the people in the market are waiting for the pump because in recent years the market is on a bearish trend.
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November 11, 2019, 09:01:38 AM
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Hacking on the exchange, it makes me afraid because it also affects the overall market price, especially Btc.

Whatever it is, if the price drops so deep that it scares me.

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November 11, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
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I think those two things are the same. dump occur because of market manipulation. so how can we choose one of them. Market manipulation causes pumps and dumps, this is the scariest. when you think the market is in a good line, but it turns out that waiting ahead is a dump.

You said manipulation caused the pump and dump. and obviously this is different right? Who's afraid when the market experiences pumping because of manipulation? no, they were all happy when they saw the bullrun market even though it was all because of manipulation.

so I ask, which is more frightening when manipulation makes it difficult for the market to make a reversal, and when the market is dumped by the Whales.
I think your question is just the same, comparing two types of possible scenarios that are happening in the market without realizing that they are just the same. You just do not accept his opinion. For me, it is like asking someone as "Don't you understand?", whether the answer is yes or no, the meaning of the answer is just the same.

Market manipulation is the reason for the price to dump.
So, basically your question is going only in the same point, wherein the reason for the market price to dump is the market manipulation.

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November 11, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
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Back then in 2016 I have felt the scare when price was dramatically dropping. I remember me call my friends(traders) once that what is up with their bets and to discuss how to save mine from liquidating.

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November 11, 2019, 09:29:03 AM
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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?
Of course dump, if we can see, manipulation can be pump or dumped coin and when pumped, maybe we can take a little chance to make profit in there. But when price dump happen, nothing that we can do except see and wait for the bottom or maybe good price to buy and hold until price can back increased again and make profit with it. But if dumped, will need longer time to get pumped again.

 
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November 11, 2019, 09:48:50 AM
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I think those two things are the same. dump occur because of market manipulation. so how can we choose one of them. Market manipulation causes pumps and dumps, this is the scariest. when you think the market is in a good line, but it turns out that waiting ahead is a dump.
For me manipulation can create a lot of new investment opportunities for many other investors because it is always a very good time to buy some cheap coins. Maybe people are afraid of pumps and dumps in this market but I have had a long time here and this problem does not affect my psychology much. Every market will have whale manipulation and you should be familiar with it because this is a financial market and they have the right to control or adjust at any time if they want.

I am not afraid of any investment issues because before I joined I spent a lot of time to research and analyze this market every day so any investment issues I can solve in short time.






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November 11, 2019, 09:55:07 AM
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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

Dumps happen so fast that i can't be afraid of those, Neither am i afraid of market manipulation, because i know it's constantly happening anyway. Why would i worry about it on the top of it?
Honestly i am more scared when the price is up, so basically any time before the fall, it's like he higher you climb the harder you will fall. Exiting on going to the top is somehow scary too. It feels like a vertigo or fomo will kick in after you do that.
I find my feelings weird anyway, like relics of the real world, that don't apply on the markets, and i have to constantly fight against them

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November 11, 2019, 10:02:55 AM
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Is not it very clear? traders are looking for profit, no matter what happens with the market as long as they get a profit everything is fine.
a dump is a nightmare not only for traders but also for everyone. nobody wants to see the coin they are holding to get dumped because in most cases when it gets dumped there is a high possibility for the project to get abandoned.

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November 11, 2019, 10:05:23 AM
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Hacking on the exchange, it makes me afraid because it also affects the overall market price, especially Btc.

Whatever it is, if the price drops so deep that it scares me.
Not part of the list but yeah this is also scarier if you experience it . I experience it my self when my account has been hacked if i remember it correctly its c-cex exchange this exchnage gone already. But he left me with fond memories  not that big amount but its difficult to accept since the price of btc is different from  the price when i experience it.

And for the OP market manipualtion can also be a way to earn you just need to feel the market and sell your coin before whales sell all thier holdings.

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November 11, 2019, 10:06:32 AM
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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

I'm more scared with hackers.. In this cryptocurrency world hacker is everywhere moreover if you have more than thousand dollars assets in a wallet you might be targeted by the hackers. So, we have to be careful with visiting any crypto websites or filling forms that might be a phising site from hackers that want to steal you wallet.
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November 11, 2019, 10:11:50 AM
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Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?
Both do not always lead to the same result. Dump is already caused by price manipulation and manipulation does not always cause us to lose. Sometimes it brings a large amount of profit, therefore, dumping the price is less preferred. Sometimes when we want to collect potential coins from the cheap price, dump is useful. Otherwise, we love the increase.

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