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In this kind of large market it will be difficult to manipulate the price. You will need hundreds of thousands of bitcoins and millions with altcoins just so to make a big wave.
The sad thing though is whales could make it happen if they will do it at once. (discussed privately) It could be dumped easily, specially if their share in a certain coin is way to large like 20 percent of it. Somehow they could really manipulate its market in fast pace. They love playing with altcoins though, specially the starting ones with cheap prices. They will not go near bitcoin though for it is expensive.
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November 12, 2019, 06:59:45 AM |
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Hi all... I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.
Its important to understand the market and how it works. Market manipulation and price dump of coins are normal and been happening since before, but in my experience price dump is worse especially if this particular coin is not well-established like other coins that has a possibility to bounce back. But in crypto what matter is you know how to play every situation because there's always a way to take advantage it.
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November 12, 2019, 07:08:30 AM |
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There is no such thing as scary if you understand that its normal and you know how to play it. Market manipulation could result to dump and pump, that is what is happening in the market, therefore you need to make some strategy to benefit on that.
Lack of confidence on this market is the reason why people are panicking and think its scary every pump and dump. The money you are playing in this market should be the buffer cash on your budget so you won't feel any regrets. I'm also scared to lose money, its normal but if you know what you are doing and you are ready to risk money then it will be fine to you because you know that you can earn that later.
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November 12, 2019, 07:14:02 AM |
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Not all the spikes are a result of market manipulation. In case a coin or a token goes up by 15% or 20% suddenly, then you should look for the reasons behind that spike. If there is a solid reason behind that rally, then you can invest in the coin (depending on your risk raking ability). But what you have said is true. In 90% of the cases, pumps are followed by dumps.
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November 12, 2019, 07:18:50 AM |
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Actually both are scary it depends on the situation, you invested on a project and the price dump and does not recover unless it is bitcoin because it will surely recover some altcoins will never recover and leave you in the dust. Market manipulation is still scary but if you ride on the manipulation you can make it to your advantage if you made the right call but often most traders are rekt and jebaited.
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November 12, 2019, 07:26:53 AM |
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I guess seeing hack news on an exchange you kept huge funds on and when trying to login you were told they have disabled login now till things are put back in place. this will even make one urinate on his body while awake because you don't know if your account was among hacked accounts or not...several thoughts would be revolving around you.
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November 12, 2019, 09:49:37 AM |
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For me I think market manipulation is better because things could still fall back on track rather than the Coin been dump which will make the trader hopeless
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November 12, 2019, 10:12:13 AM |
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Well dumps are actually part of manipulating the market, either to scare people into selling their coins or for big guys to take profit. Market manipulation is a pretty common thing in crypto, so goes with occassional dumps so i think there's no need to be afraid of any of them. As long as there are big whales who own a huge chunk of coins, they can always sway the market to their advantage or whichever way they want. We just have to learn how to adjust and to sway with these changes.
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November 12, 2019, 10:40:23 AM |
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Hi all... I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.
I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.
how about you guys? which makes you scared?
Of the two things, in my opinion the most frightening is market manipulation. Coin dump will be able to recover if coins or tokens have projects that produce good products but tokens whose prices are the result of manipulation, it is difficult to get the trust of investors back
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November 12, 2019, 11:10:58 AM |
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Market manipulation can produce price dump, and not all price dump are as a result of market manipulation. Because some bounty rewards even in this period of price dump are still high because of positive manipulations which is of advantage. The price of the reward will begin to dump if you leave it over time. You rarely have any coin that is rising above the period delivered now. The both could be scary because price dump may last longer but market manipulation can still be countered
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November 12, 2019, 11:34:32 AM |
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Market manipulation can produce price dump, and not all price dump are as a result of market manipulation. Because some bounty rewards even in this period of price dump are still high because of positive manipulations which is of advantage. The price of the reward will begin to dump if you leave it over time. You rarely have any coin that is rising above the period delivered now. The both could be scary because price dump may last longer but market manipulation can still be countered
I believe it wasn't because of market manipulation cause it rarely to happen right now. The sudden ups and drops it wasn't a thing to worried about cause it normally happen all the time. What makes scary if the market will turn down straight. But surely it never happens which means that there is no need to worry about the current situation we have now. The market will surely recover sooner and see prices move back to the most satisfying price we want.
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November 12, 2019, 11:45:51 AM |
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Actually both are scary it depends on the situation, you invested on a project and the price dump and does not recover unless it is bitcoin because it will surely recover some altcoins will never recover and leave you in the dust. Market manipulation is still scary but if you ride on the manipulation you can make it to your advantage if you made the right call but often most traders are rekt and jebaited.
in the world of trading and investment you must be able to have the courage to take the risks that exist, falling and rising and falling prices are normal and you should not be afraid when trading on cryptocurrency like bitcoin when prices fall in assets that you have only change the estimated numbers and can return when the price is already back up, so just think of it as a long-term investment that can be used for future savings.
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November 12, 2019, 11:48:54 AM |
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Hi all... I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.
I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.
how about you guys? which makes you scared?
the place of disposal of coins, the reason is almost the same as you. when a coin suddenly rises very high, but then falls dramatically beyond the purchase price, of course our hope to get profit, it will get a deep loss. while in the period of disposal of the coin, recover prices will be very slow, even the worst possibility is the coin will sink and we do not get anything from what we bought before.
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November 12, 2019, 12:27:16 PM |
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There is no such thing as scary if you understand that its normal and you know how to play it. Market manipulation could result to dump and pump, that is what is happening in the market, therefore you need to make some strategy to benefit on that.
That's how experienced traders are doing, instead of worrying about this certain dump they manage to accumulate and wait for the time that bounce back shows and quickly sell out for decent profits. Repeating steps by steps and having a good skills anticipating how the market brings them is the key in order to place good positioning. Most of the time it's experienced and instinct that helps to make a good decision around this market.
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November 12, 2019, 12:36:08 PM |
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Hi all... I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.
I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.
how about you guys? which makes you scared?
Though I am still looking forward that the cryptomarket would grow huge up to the point that price manipulation by whales would not have this kind of massive impact. I think it is better not to get profit than riding a FOMO that would drag your assets down the drain. What I’m scared about is that I had invested my time, energy and effort for months and yet I would not get anything being a totally waste of resources since in the end they turn out to be scam even those unexpected ones who are managed by reputed people but sometimes they also fall in this kind of trap.
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November 12, 2019, 12:41:57 PM |
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Hi all... I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.
I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.
how about you guys? which makes you scared?
I have the same fear as you. Trading indicators really matter for a market that is always manipulated as strongly as the crypto market. There, it takes people tens of thousands of dollars to realize the problem and experience. so even the knowledgeable person will not easily beat the market. Just to be safe, you shouldn't trade here. hold & sell high is the best strategy.
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November 12, 2019, 12:58:39 PM |
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I have the same fear as you. Trading indicators really matter for a market that is always manipulated as strongly as the crypto market. There, it takes people tens of thousands of dollars to realize the problem and experience. so even the knowledgeable person will not easily beat the market. Just to be safe, you shouldn't trade here. hold & sell high is the best strategy.
TA is pretty much useless, Most analysts have been wrong and only a few correct predictions. Market manipulation can produce price dump, and not all price dump are as a result of market manipulation.
Market manipulation creates opportunity if you played it well.
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November 12, 2019, 01:05:54 PM |
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Hi all... I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.
I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.
how about you guys? which makes you scared?
Though I am still looking forward that the cryptomarket would grow huge up to the point that price manipulation by whales would not have this kind of massive impact. I think it is better not to get profit than riding a FOMO that would drag your assets down the drain. What I’m scared about is that I had invested my time, energy and effort for months and yet I would not get anything being a totally waste of resources since in the end they turn out to be scam even those unexpected ones who are managed by reputed people but sometimes they also fall in this kind of trap. it would be more beneficial if we know the whales scenario, because the crypto world is a decentralized system, so manipulation seems to be a close friend of those who are strong. therefore don't be greedy for profit, so we can consistently get the benefits
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November 12, 2019, 01:10:58 PM |
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it would be more beneficial if we know the whales scenario, because the crypto world is a decentralized system, so manipulation seems to be a close friend of those who are strong. therefore don't be greedy for profit, so we can consistently get the benefits
how do we know that? you might be trapped in this scenario. the market is truly unpredictable now. some sentiments from the celebrities on the market also failed to make the pump. somehow we have to focus on what kind of analysis.
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November 12, 2019, 01:11:12 PM |
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I am not scared, but I am worried if I see the market got dump because that will makes the price is down too deep. That will makes traders will panic because some of them cannot hold longer and they will make fast decision to sell their coin without think that is only for a flash dump. I am worried that the price needs longer to increase again, and sometimes, that will trigger to get another dump. I see that is happening with bitcoin yesterday and make the price down step by step.
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