[OFFICIAL] P2PB2B - resolving misunderstandings

[TMAN]

But, negative trust must be deleted from P2PB2B Bounty Manager

oi princess, stop punching above your weight and demanding things. This is a community and the community will decide not you!

[marlboroza]

I can't believe my eyes what I am reading in this thread  

First thing first, @p2pb2b

What we should do next?

Address this https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/dz4snw/i_think_p2pb2b_exchange_scammed_nearly_3000_from/f86sx19/ here. I am interested in Svitlana - Valerii  relationship and his role in Coinsbit ponzi exchange (for now).

[eddie13]

With all the twisting, turning, excuses, and reality called out as lies it is hard to know ... but it looks like it is going down like this...

So just to recap... Lauda's known gang have BULLIED a project to use LAUDA's escrow service?  is this correct?

Because someone said this should not have happened then Lauda gave them red trust??

Is this correct?  I smell some nice EXTORTION going on here.

So they were being called a scam and getting flack but if they use laudas escrow ( and pay him some funds) they can go ahead??

Are these cliff notes correct? Seems like  some " possible"  new material for my BLACKMAIL and EXTORTION thread in meta.

Now lauda says if you stop saying things I do not like I may consider you non-malignant.... is this like benign ?? hmmm very tasty.

Don't waste it buried in some thread if it turns out to be true..

I can't believe my eyes what I am reading in this thread  

Some stuff..

[logfiles]

But, negative trust must be deleted from P2PB2B Bounty Manager and p2pb2b.io as the trust greatly affects on the participants.

Like i said before, I am more than willing to remove my negative trust if the complainant's issues have been resolved (I mean the scam accusations that were raised in the scam accusations board of you locking out people's money)

I haven't seen any owner of the threads come out and say that the issue has been resolved. Maybe what you should do it tell those people to comment here and confirm that they have been helped

[pilosopotasyo]

But, negative trust must be deleted from P2PB2B Bounty Manager and p2pb2b.io as the trust greatly affects on the participants.

Like i said before, I am more than willing to remove my negative trust if the complainant's issues have been resolved (I mean the scam accusations that were raised in the scam accusations board of you locking out people's money)

I haven't seen any owner of the threads come out and say that the issue has been resolved. Maybe what you should do it tell those people to comment here and confirm that they have been helped

Some of them do not have proofs to show at all, like this idiot that just posted without showing proof and how are they going to answer when they are not log in anymore and just here to ask for loans and post baseless accusations
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202319.msg53106551#msg53106551

profile of this idiot
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035779

trust rating of this idiot
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1035779

[ataArt]

But, negative trust must be deleted from P2PB2B Bounty Manager and p2pb2b.io as the trust greatly affects on the participants.

Like i said before, I am more than willing to remove my negative trust if the complainant's issues have been resolved (I mean the scam accusations that were raised in the scam accusations board of you locking out people's money)

I haven't seen any owner of the threads come out and say that the issue has been resolved. Maybe what you should do it tell those people to comment here and confirm that they have been helped

By marking in red, you have assumed the responsibility of a judge.

It turns out that you draw conclusions based on the evidence of the prosecution, and the fact that the accused party provided you with reasoned evidence with screenshots of transactions and support dialogs is not a weighty fact for you to revision the charges.

You have a strange justice.

[mosprognoz]

So just to recap... Lauda's known gang have BULLIED a project to use LAUDA's escrow service?  is this correct?
Because someone said this should not have happened then Lauda gave them red trust??
Is this correct?  I smell some nice EXTORTION going on here.
So they were being called a scam and getting flack but if they use laudas escrow ( and pay him some funds) they can go ahead??
Are these cliff notes correct? Seems like  some " possible"  new material for my BLACKMAIL and EXTORTION thread in meta.

Let me introduce you to One-Above-All mentally sick troll and paranoid schizophrenic.

Here is his trust page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2580400

Here are some more interesting details about him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138419.0

Strongly believes in conspiracy theories, devils and ghosts. Thinks that everyone on this forum are his enemies and especially DT members. I recommended him to visit a doctor many times, but he is refusing of doing so.

Just check the topics started by him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=2580400;sa=showPosts

[mosprognoz]

BTW p2pb2b promised to launch the sig campaign on 3th of December. We have December 5 already and nothing is happening.

[coin-investor]

BTW p2pb2b promised to launch the sig campaign on 3th of December. We have December 5 already and nothing is happening.

Btw thanks for recommending an escrow I'm thinking of joining a campaign but I read that there's a possibility of yobit refilling the wallet or not,
it's hard decision, but if the manager is honest and there is escrow, like all the other bounty, are doing. I might weigh my option, the holiday season is coming and this is a good choice of signature.

[P2PB2B Bounty Manager]

BTW p2pb2b promised to launch the sig campaign on 3th of December. We have December 5 already and nothing is happening.

We turned for escrow. This man advised us to create a topic in order to refute the red trust and safely launch a signature campaign, so as not to expose the participants to risks as last time.
That's actually, we wrote a responce on each  red trust point, even more. But those who put red trust are in no hurry to drop the charges. You wrote wise thing:  

If I understand you correctly, we need to set up an escrow account and allocate all funds needed for sig campaign there. After that - you will remove the red flag from this sig campaign and we will be able to continue. Right?

Note:  I am not responsible for tags from other DT members, that can still consider even an escrowed campaign of this exchange as a scam advertising.

A lot of guys write me in PM with questions: "when you start the campaign, holidays are coming", "we need money for happy holydays " etc... We are interested in launching the campaign as soon as possible. We will bring more than $ 1000 to the forum, every week. But, still waiting for the problem with the trust to be resolved so as not to expose participants to the risks. That's the reason for this delay.

mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

[pilosopotasyo]

BTW p2pb2b promised to launch the sig campaign on 3th of December. We have December 5 already and nothing is happening.

They're afraid of a flag but check livecoin flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2650265, but they still manage to push with the campaign and it was a long campaign, I hope they can include junior member been out of bounty, I can't even remember the last one  

[examplens]

mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

You missed this post and answer to it. I'm also interested in your side of the story here.

I can't believe my eyes what I am reading in this thread 

First thing first, @p2pb2b

What we should do next?

Address this https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/dz4snw/i_think_p2pb2b_exchange_scammed_nearly_3000_from/f86sx19/ here. I am interested in Svitlana - Valerii  relationship and his role in Coinsbit ponzi exchange (for now).

[mosprognoz]

mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

You missed this post and answer to it. I'm also interested in your side of the story here.[/b]

I am not sure about Lauda's position regarding this. Did they reached a deal regarding escrow of the funds? If yes, then open a new topic and start your sig campaign. Nobody can stop you, even if your exchange is an obvious scam, because due to forum politics scams are not moderated.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
 

Regarding all that scam accusations. As I stated here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53232333#msg53232333

"Let potential traders read what is mentioned in scam accusations, study supporting evidence and make up their own minds."

If you ask me, I am still considering it as a scam due to connections with coinsbit scam exchange and other facts posted by Jolly in his thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192497.0

If we will start to talk about the ethical side of advertising such exchange, that will lead us very far, because there were a lot of campaigns, advertised by some reputable members and at the end they turned out to be scams or at least failed projects.

[smyslov]

mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

You missed this post and answer to it. I'm also interested in your side of the story here.

I can't believe my eyes what I am reading in this thread 

First thing first, @p2pb2b

What we should do next?

Address this https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/dz4snw/i_think_p2pb2b_exchange_scammed_nearly_3000_from/f86sx19/ here. I am interested in Svitlana - Valerii  relationship and his role in Coinsbit ponzi exchange (for now).

The dev has set up this thread because he believes things will be resolve here
I hope the other party knows this issue so he can come forward and bring his issue here, it's her opportunity, so while resolving the issues, there should be no hindrance on campaign if they want to, it's a good continuity, resolving the issue plus running a campaign win win situation for all the concern parties, this is just my two cents worth of thought.

[marlboroza]

[...]But, still waiting for the problem with the trust to be resolved so as not to expose participants to the risks.

Cool story. You missed this:

What we should do next?

Address this https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/dz4snw/i_think_p2pb2b_exchange_scammed_nearly_3000_from/f86sx19/ here. I am interested in Svitlana - Valerii  relationship and his role in Coinsbit ponzi exchange (for now).

[mosprognoz]

But, still waiting for the problem with the trust to be resolved so as not to expose participants to the risks. That's the reason for this delay.
mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

That is a very silly excuse. If only one neg tag from DT member is stopping you from starting of this bloody sig campaign, than buy a new legal copper member account and start the promised campaign. I will wait for couple of days and if nothing happens, I will consider this promised sig campaign as a scam and will stop any communications with them. I tried to do almost everything to help them regarding mentioned campaign, but it seems to me, that I just wasted my time.

[eddie13]

But, still waiting for the problem with the trust to be resolved so as not to expose participants to the risks. That's the reason for this delay.
mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

That is a very silly excuse. If only one neg tag from DT member is stopping you from starting of this bloody sig campaign, than buy a new legal copper member account and start the promised campaign.

Now you are suggesting he evade red trust by using multi accounts?

Why do you want this campaign to run so badly?
How are you so ignorant of proper business etiquette here?

You don't "force" escrow..
You don't advertise for scams, escrow or not..
You don't just create a new account to evade red trust..
"Legal" is not a descriptor of legitimacy..
LEARN

You trying to step up as some position of authority to "resolve" anything is laughable while stating so many utterly distasteful propositions..
I am almost in disbelief..

[pilosopotasyo]

But, still waiting for the problem with the trust to be resolved so as not to expose participants to the risks. That's the reason for this delay.
mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

That is a very silly excuse. If only one neg tag from DT member is stopping you from starting of this bloody sig campaign, than buy a new legal copper member account and start the promised campaign.

Now you are suggesting he evade red trust by using multi accounts?

I think he is implying buying a copper membership, it's cheap than buying an account, buying account will cast doubts on the character so it is buying copper membership

[ataArt]

But, still waiting for the problem with the trust to be resolved so as not to expose participants to the risks. That's the reason for this delay.
mosprognoz, can you give one more good advice on how to speed it all up?

That is a very silly excuse. If only one neg tag from DT member is stopping you from starting of this bloody sig campaign, than buy a new legal copper member account and start the promised campaign.

what's the point of buying a new copper element?
What would JollyGood leave a new review again?
there is such a thing as a “agreement is more expensive than money”

[mosprognoz]

Now you are suggesting he evade red trust by using multi accounts?

Anyone can buy a copper member account any time. That is completely legal.

what's the point of buying a new copper element?
What would JollyGood leave a new review again?
there is such a thing as a “agreement is more expensive than money”

p2pb2b bounty campaign manager is very concerned about red trust and mentioning it as a reason for delay. I really do not know what will Jolly do, but you can ask him yourself. I just offered a solution for that situation.