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December 04, 2019, 08:35:57 PM
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The point of all of that is don't believe in exchanges because not all exchanges are really real that many manipulate volume transactions to attract investors so be careful when choosing exchanges if you don't want to lose your money.
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December 04, 2019, 10:04:09 PM
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Due to certain issues in the past, like being scammed or hacked within the process of investing into such projects, investors nowadays tend to be more wiser and even more careful to take full responsibility for their actions to avoid such things to happen once again. Investors really tend to become smarter because even if we are into the crypto community, still real money is being invested into such projects to earn real profits in terms of crypto in exchange. If investors will not be mindful of their actions, they will just remain being fooled or scammed which I am pretty no one wants to experience such thing a couple of times in a row. We tend to learn from our past mistakes and we learn to adapt new strategies from those learnings we have gathered to become more wise than before specially talking about investment.

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December 07, 2019, 04:58:49 AM
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Investors may be getting smarter, but scammers are not asleep, who come up with new projects and new ways to lure funds from our wallets.

Many developers become hostages of the situation when the exchange rate of the coin(token) is controlled by the exchange, an example of yobit which introduces wallets for maintenance.

And listing on other exchanges is not bad, since it is a good advertisement even on an unknown exchange. Binance used to be unknown too, and now everyone is eager to add coins to it.
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December 07, 2019, 09:20:46 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Because the developer is also scam, so he doesn't care about it, he cares about how to get money from investors. only that !
In fact, that don't bother them even in a bit. They don't bother to clear the issue and just focus on what they could milk out from people. Why bother and waste their time here if this can bring more traffic to their exchange site. Tbh, even there's a scam accusation here, some still use the site. I don't know what kind of brain they have.

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December 07, 2019, 09:24:55 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Because the developer is also scam, so he doesn't care about it, he cares about how to get money from investors. only that !
In fact, that don't bother them even in a bit. They don't bother to clear the issue and just focus on what they could milk out from people. Why bother and waste their time here if this can bring more traffic to their exchange site. Tbh, even there's a scam accusation here, some still use the site. I don't know what kind of brain they have.

Actually they don't care if they have that accusations since at the first place they already got the money from there investors and the only thing they care is how to get more that's why you can see so many bastard dev's who makes the lives of the investors hard. And we shouldn't  stick on platforms  especially if we mean on the ICO's since 99% of the dev are scammers.

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December 07, 2019, 08:33:56 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

Do you actually believed developers aren't smart enough to point out bad exchanges? They are, but just chose to list on those exchanges because it will afford them the opportunity to carryout their fraudulent activities of either abandoning the project or coming up with baseless excuses. Investors and other users in this space have learnt this truth, which is why any project listing on a bad exchange will only but repel investors Instead of drawing them closer.
Therefore don't believe whatever reason developers give for listing on a bad exchange.
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December 07, 2019, 10:24:26 PM
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Very nice title. Investors are becoming smarter. That's why they don't bring money into the market. There is no reason for new investors to come. Developers are announcing new agreements with Exchange instead of new products. Everything depends on the price!
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December 07, 2019, 10:30:05 PM
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i think its the otherwise..
investors are not getting smarter, most of them leave or make same mistakes
new comers investors coming and making same mistakes the old did + they think its a competition and shitting on projects in social media and make people run away from this space.
in other hand developers are getting smarter, because they kept building for the last few years and learned from their mistakes
the ecosystem is growing technically but not monetary
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December 08, 2019, 06:05:30 PM
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I think not all boils down to fees, back in the good old days, a project could list in a shit exchange and it would still get a very huge volume upon listing, but it's different these days but some developers are just too low budget to afford listing in better exchanges even if they want to, so they instead go to the shit exchanges in the hopes that their listing fees could be affordable.

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January 08, 2020, 05:10:06 AM
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Exchanges cannot run on their own without any fees from the projects. If somebody is claiming for free, then probably they are going to runaway with most of the money from the traders. We have to extremely careful with such exchanges.
Raising fund with top exchange surely makes a new project reach hardcap easily, why not come to agreement with top exchanges instead? Many developers don't bother to do research on exchanges before listing on them, few small exchanges are still good too

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January 08, 2020, 05:26:55 AM
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Raising fund with top exchange surely makes a new project reach hardcap easily, why not come to agreement with top exchanges instead? Many developers don't bother to do research on exchanges before listing on them, few small exchanges are still good too
True, but making deals with top exchanges does seem easier, but project developers are troubled by the conditions they must fulfill in order for their cooperation with exchanges to be established.
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January 08, 2020, 05:47:34 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Being a developer is not easy, as an investor experience and determine which is more profitable and convincing can be supported by several things and what developers provide. while developers have to think about how to fulfill the wishes of the investors (profits) with what they will get. I have had experiences that are not much different from this, but this is indeed difficult for developers, especially with investor pressure. in my opinion this is not a matter of smarter or not but rather the personal developer itself.

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January 08, 2020, 06:18:50 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
The main reason is that they don't risk any money. They are just execpting every opportunity that knocks to them without considering its effect to their clients. On behalf of that, investors are getting smarter because they are risking their money. Unlike developers, if they accept every opportunity that knocks to them, there is a huge possibility that they ended up being scammed rather than making a profit.
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January 08, 2020, 07:45:38 AM
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I think not all boils down to fees, back in the good old days, a project could list in a shit exchange and it would still get a very huge volume upon listing, but it's different these days but some developers are just too low budget to afford listing in better exchanges even if they want to, so they instead go to the shit exchanges in the hopes that their listing fees could be affordable.
that's the real problem, the inability of developers to strengthen all funding capability structures before actually introducing projects to the public sphere, and the majority eventually become trends that affect their quality, in this case developers don't think at all about how investors can support the stability of their projects, only around how the project can make money as soon as possible.

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January 08, 2020, 07:53:12 AM
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Raising fund with top exchange surely makes a new project reach hardcap easily, why not come to agreement with top exchanges instead? Many developers don't bother to do research on exchanges before listing on them, few small exchanges are still good too
Do you mean IEO? I don't think it's easy to launch IEO on large exchanges because besides the cost of the exchange, the team of exchange have to be more careful in choosing projects to launch. And the developer mistake is to force the collection of funds on an exchange that has a bad reputation so that investors are not interested.

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January 08, 2020, 09:02:15 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

I think the difference is obvious here. Investors draw with their own funds, which means they try to more carefully study projects for investment. Developers simply do the work and get rewarded for it, while their risk is much less than that of investors. So it turns out that the investor is better versed in crypto projects than developers.
I don't think so, because the experience that developers have is also needed to be able to develop the projects they have. Because for me the developer plays an important role for the success of a project but developers cannot do it themselves and they need the role of investors to be able to carry out plans that have been prepared so that the project can run smoothly and successfully.
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January 08, 2020, 10:38:05 AM
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Yeah investors are getting smarter day by day. It is obvious that many of these project are just there to scam innocent investors by luring them in investing in fake project. Developers also are just in for the money and not thinking about the effect to investors
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January 08, 2020, 10:50:07 AM
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.
for example like this, for large exchanges such as binance, large fees and they are reluctant to enter there. means that they don't have enough money and means the project isn't working. they chose an exchange with a cheap or even free fee, instead it became a boomerang because it was prone to price scams and quiet of demand.
Well, if they knew that it would be a boomerang for them, I think they were really not serious about developing their projects. yes, it's good enough if the not-so-bad exchanger starts. but, some projects even put their tokens in a really bad exchanger. it's the same as turning off their own project.'
thinking about this, I sometimes only see projects that have a good market.
Some projects put a bad exchange and maybe it's a way to shut down their project or maybe they don't have enough funds to put in a good exchange and it's true what you say sometimes I rate a project that has a good market, but for now this if we see new projects as less profitable because most of them end in failure and perhaps lack of funding is the reason that developers choose to list their tokens in bad exchange.
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January 08, 2020, 12:19:54 PM
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.
for example like this, for large exchanges such as binance, large fees and they are reluctant to enter there. means that they don't have enough money and means the project isn't working. they chose an exchange with a cheap or even free fee, instead it became a boomerang because it was prone to price scams and quiet of demand.
Well, if they knew that it would be a boomerang for them, I think they were really not serious about developing their projects. yes, it's good enough if the not-so-bad exchanger starts. but, some projects even put their tokens in a really bad exchanger. it's the same as turning off their own project.'
thinking about this, I sometimes only see projects that have a good market.
Some projects put a bad exchange and maybe it's a way to shut down their project or maybe they don't have enough funds to put in a good exchange and it's true what you say sometimes I rate a project that has a good market, but for now this if we see new projects as less profitable because most of them end in failure and perhaps lack of funding is the reason that developers choose to list their tokens in bad exchange.

That would be the main reason, due to financial reasons, they will choose to put their coin in a not so good exchange.
They focus more on things to benefit themselves and just let the project to die. And create another project just to repeat what they just did.


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January 08, 2020, 03:48:41 PM
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.
for example like this, for large exchanges such as binance, large fees and they are reluctant to enter there. means that they don't have enough money and means the project isn't working. they chose an exchange with a cheap or even free fee, instead it became a boomerang because it was prone to price scams and quiet of demand.
Well, if they knew that it would be a boomerang for them, I think they were really not serious about developing their projects. yes, it's good enough if the not-so-bad exchanger starts. but, some projects even put their tokens in a really bad exchanger. it's the same as turning off their own project.'
thinking about this, I sometimes only see projects that have a good market.
Some projects put a bad exchange and maybe it's a way to shut down their project or maybe they don't have enough funds to put in a good exchange and it's true what you say sometimes I rate a project that has a good market, but for now this if we see new projects as less profitable because most of them end in failure and perhaps lack of funding is the reason that developers choose to list their tokens in bad exchange.

That would be the main reason, due to financial reasons, they will choose to put their coin in a not so good exchange.
They focus more on things to benefit themselves and just let the project to die. And create another project just to repeat what they just did.

Agreed and a very good reason. and indeed the fact from what we know is like that, devs do not really care where the listing exchange place, if the project is already listed after that is abandoned and create new projects again. in other words, the devs who make projects and do things like this are a scammer, he said investors are getting smarter but in fact are still being fooled by devs of this kind.

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