"HCP's ongoing experiment of the BotHIVE.io Trading Platform"™

[CryptoSparks]

You have no idea how trading works.

I'm not selling a bot, you are, and you keep complaining about getting wrecked by some mythical whales. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by claiming that you have no idea how trading works - I think you probably have a little bit of an idea, just enough to use big words for conning people.

Filling with stops is the 101 of market manipulation. Is not my job to convince you or your buddies of that. My job is to provide people with automated and customizable trading algorithms.

Our bots are optimized to avoid entering traps and survive at shakeouts, that is why Manticore is sitting at 98.342 % win ratio. 100% is impossible without inside trading.

User can pick their own risk and extra stop for every bot, for example

Manticore generated another +26% from since last post   , at 15% max risk and 0% extra stop.




(Notice cyclical ABC correction patterns )










Also is worth mentioning we are the only ones to have public record of every trade and public chat.

Trade History:

https://t.me/BotHIVE_io

Public Chat
https://t.me/BotHive


Happy Trading 

[suchmoon]

Filling with stops is the 101 of market manipulation.

That's great, and it only took you about a year of wasting your customers money to figure that out. Now that you have the magic new bot totally immune to manipulation and other whale-y shenanigans I take it you're going to repay your victims?

[CryptoSparks]

Filling with stops is the 101 of market manipulation.

That's great, and it only took you about a year of wasting your customers money to figure that out. Now that you have the magic new bot totally immune to manipulation and other whale-y shenanigans I take it you're going to repay your victims?

What victims?
Manticore launched with the platform, got 2 max losses visible in the chart and not only recovered fully the loss but is in great profit now. Today made another win.

Aethon with at least 10% extra stop would be in profit too.

Curious to see HCP account now, that suffered losses with Aethon at 0% extra stop.

[suchmoon]

What victims?
Manticore launched with the platform, got 2 max losses visible in the chart and not only recovered fully the loss but is in great profit now. Today made another win.

Aethon with at least 10% extra stop would be in profit too.

Curious to see HCP account now, that suffered losses with Aethon at 0% extra stop.

Victims of all your previous failed experiments. Beta testers who paid to get fucked over. I would seem fair to compensate them now that you finally hit gold.

You're bragging about the great new bot exactly like you bragged about the previous ones, which ended up losing money. So what's it gonna be - put some money where your mouth is or leave your customers holding the bags as usual?

[HCP]

Curious to see HCP account now, that suffered losses with Aethon at 0% extra stop.

Would give a full update, but I'm away on business at the moment... using a shitty old laptop that idles at 70C and thermal throttles "like a boss"™

It took me literally 10 minutes just to get this screenshot, crop it and upload it... >


Nearly back to "break even" from the start of ThePlatform™... just a minor loss of -0.0016BTC... which means that overall, from the original 0.1BTC investment on the old VPS hosted bot, I am down around -0.0616BTC... or roughly ~61% loss.


Note: my overall portfolio is listed as being 0.099134BTC, but 0.059781BTC of that is "fee balance" which is the leftovers from the "loss rebate" that was credited to my account when the platform was launched. This cannot be withdrawn. It's basically "store credit".

[nutildah]

Note: my overall portfolio is listed as being 0.099134BTC, but 0.059781BTC of that is "fee balance" which is the leftovers from the "loss rebate" that was credited to my account when the platform was launched. This cannot be withdrawn. It's basically "store credit".

So in your opinion, would you recommend people use or continue using CryptoSparks' service? Looking for an unbiased opinion here, which you are more capable of giving than any of us... Guigui stopped his "trial" quite some time ago so we know what he thinks.

[HCP]

Honestly? At this point in time, based purely on my experience, I would have to say "No"... I don't think I could recommend it... not unless you have a really solid understanding of the bot settings and can set them to match your personal risk profile.

I was probably needing something that was a bit more "idiot proof" or geared towards "lazy investor"... as I will readily admit, I know almost nothing regarding the in's and out's of trading... and, as we witnessed with the substantial hits that I took, leaving the bots at default settings left you vulnerable to some nasty surprises.

Now, to be fair, I have only been using the plaform now for 4 1/2 months, from Early April through to Late August... and in that time I hit three (more) big losses and changed my bot from using "Aethon" to using "Manticore"...

So far, "Manticore" seems to be doing "OK", in that it has at least recovered all my losses from when I started using the platform. I'm kinda surprised, tbh... I had expected that I was going to get wiped out (or at least drop below min balance threshold) during some of the very volatile trading periods we have seen in the last couple of months.

Currently, I have no plans to "exit"... maybe if my balance gets back around the fiat value I originally invested (~US$735) then I might consider pulling out... for now, I think I'll "let it ride".

[CryptoSparks]

Curious to see HCP account now, that suffered losses with Aethon at 0% extra stop.

Would give a full update, but I'm away on business at the moment... using a shitty old laptop that idles at 70C and thermal throttles "like a boss"™

It took me literally 10 minutes just to get this screenshot, crop it and upload it...


Nearly back to "break even" from the start of ThePlatform™... just a minor loss of -0.0016BTC... which means that overall, from the original 0.1BTC investment on the old VPS hosted bot, I am down around -0.0616BTC... or roughly ~61% loss.


Note: my overall portfolio is listed as being 0.099134BTC, but 0.059781BTC of that is "fee balance" which is the leftovers from the "loss rebate" that was credited to my account when the platform was launched. This cannot be withdrawn. It's basically "store credit".

Good to see you recovered from Aethon, also keep in mind that graphs tracks net profit after paying bothive fees and bitmex.

Meanwhile the winning strike goes on




Happy trading  

[suchmoon]

Meanwhile the winning strike goes on

So I take it that you're just going to ignore the prior losing "strikes". And when this bot inevitably shits the bed you're gonna create a new winning one. Sounds about right?

[CryptoSparks]

Meanwhile the winning strike goes on

So I take it that you're just going to ignore the prior losing "strikes". And when this bot inevitably shits the bed you're gonna create a new winning one. Sounds about right?

Well, i hope none will forget or ignore the ABC correction pattern and wrongly leave bot in fear.




0.01 BTC Free Credit for who guesses the next algorithmic top before correction 

As always, public trade history

https://t.me/BotHIVE_io

Public chat

https://t.me/BotHive

[suchmoon]

Well, i hope none will forget or ignore the ABC correction pattern and wrongly leave bot in fear.

How much of your own money do you have riding on that magic bot? Your screenshots show 0.009 BTC so considering the 10000%+ claimed gains you started with what... ~0.0001 BTC? AKA one US dollar?

[HCP]

My biggest issue with these charts and the "10000% ROI" claim... is that it is obviously all "backtest" results... (and labelled as such, so credit for that at least!)

The bot and platform were only available from around April this year. So this historical data going back to the beginning of 2019 is obviously not representative of what an actual user would have received if they had invested on day 1 of it actually being available to users.

When I switched to Manticore around 1st May... I was around -0.009 BTC from where I started started on the new platform... which would have meant I started using Manticore with a "bankroll" of ~0.0344 BTC... today, I am at 0.047306 BTC "bankroll"...

So, it's made approximately ~0.0129 BTC since the start of May from a starting balance of 0.0344 BTC... which is about a 37.5% increase over basically 4 months (with a couple of big 30% losses inbetween)... which is obviously nowhere near this mythical 10000% return.


I'm just glad I switched bots...

[suchmoon]

So, it's made approximately ~0.0129 BTC since the start of May from a starting balance of 0.0344 BTC... which is about a 37.5% increase over basically 4 months (with a couple of big 30% losses inbetween)... which is obviously nowhere near this mythical 10000% return.

With the 32% max risk that means you have slightly more than one loss worth of gains, right? And if you get a couple of losses one after another... well, I'm rooting for you but I feel like we've seen this movie before.

Edit: actually you might be underwater again after just one loss because percentage math is weird. 0.0473 - 32% = 0.0322

[CryptoSparks]

My biggest issue with these charts and the "10000% ROI" claim... is that it is obviously all "backtest" results... (and labelled as such, so credit for that at least!)

When I switched to Manticore around 1st May...  which is about a 37.5% increase over basically 4 months (with a couple of big 30% losses inbetween)... which is obviously nowhere near this mythical 10000% return.

You are forgetting a big part in your argument, which is TIME.

Keep Manticore and this diary alive for 20 months total and you will see the magic of compound.

Funny how you and the haters in this thread were already considering this bitmex account as DEAD, lots of "I TOLD YOU SO" and here we are where it not only recovered the "DEAD" but is in big profit.

Meanwhile, the winning streak keeps going  

[HCP]

... and here we are where it not only recovered the "DEAD" but is in big profit.

My initial investment: 0.1 BTC
My current bankroll: 0.0536 BTC

That's a 0.0464 BTC loss... Not sure what "big profit" you're referring to. Or are you referring to the mythical 15,000% ROI from an imaginary account, that could not possibly have been started in Jan 2019 as the bot wasn't released until April 2020?

See, this is what I'm saying, you're busying generating mythical scenarios and charts, while ignoring the very real results that your users are experiencing. It's great that your backtest shows exponential growth... but this is not what users have experienced.

Platform Start Balance: 0.0346 BTC
Platform Current Balance: 0.0536 BTC

Granted, that is a somewhat impressive ~64.6% gain since April... but it certainly isn't anywhere near 15000%

[HCP]

Well, i hope none will forget or ignore the ABC correction pattern and wrongly leave bot in fear.

Looks like it's more of an "ABCD" correction pattern this time around

[suchmoon]

Looks like it's more of an "ABCD" correction pattern this time around

Damn, I feel bad even just thinking "I told you so"...

you might be underwater again after just one loss

And it looks like you got three losses in quick succession. New bot coming soon?

[nutildah]

Looks like it's more of an "ABCD" correction pattern this time around

Were you using the bot incorrectly again?

The BotHive account still have a 25,000% gain rate overall, so whats a minor loss every now and then?

Just wait until the next bot comes out, Mothra.


Looks like the bot got trapped in a short position, tried to double-down and then triple-down... ouch.

[LoyceV]

Looks like it's more of an "ABCD" correction pattern this time around

It still looks like classic martingale.

[suchmoon]

It still looks like classic martingale.

Yeah that's pretty much what CryptoSparks does. He finds a "strategy" that has a long non-losing streak in his backtests and pretends that it will continue forever. And when it inevitably fails, it's time to blame the whales, or the users not using the bot correctly. And then a new bot that will definitely fix the issue. Except he never puts his own money at risk, such a mystery.