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[Atobmixer]

"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"

Leeme put that like this:

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.

This is a valid concern..

If you (mixer guy) want to consider invalid addresses as donations you should clearly state that on the page and provide a way for customers to prove what addresses they entered with an unforgeable receipt or something before the mixing process is started, to protect you both in case of any scam accusations...

Do you see the professionalism portaited by eddie13 ? and what of unprofessioanal remarks made by marlboroza by accusations of something that has not happen ? All i know is Chipmixer agents has caused huge trust impact on our well running services with many accusations and many many "What If's statements" although we have zero scam accusations to date. We are gonna follow suit.

You want us to prove we are not running a scam mixer, we will do right after Chipmixer proves they are not operated by FBI

[Atobmixer]

After such a hot weather day yesterday, today seems cooler,
Our mixer is running great , with zero disputes....
amazing day , amazing day .....


ATOBMIXER ADMIN 

[jasmine_crypto]

Is it really that difficult to implement basic address validation? Instead of simply putting all the onus on the user to ensure everything is 100% correct, shouldn't (wouldn't?) a "professional" want to try to mitigate the risks and make things as easy and "safe" as possible for the end user?

Almost all decent services (mixers, exchanges, gambling sites etc) have some sort of basic address validation to prevent users from entering an "invalid" address. Note that this is a completely different scenario to a "wrong" address, which could be caused by copy/paste virus or the user copying from the wrong wallet etc. You can't easily protect against that. You can however easily stop a user entering "thisISMyBitcoinAddress" in a bitcoin address field!

However, I can type whatever I want in the box, "gfhfghjgffghgfhfghdh" and then when I try to mix I see:
https://i.imgur.com/kd9Jftd.png

So, it would seem that a user can't even double check that the address has been entered correctly before sending money. Is there a way that the user can do a last minute double check what address(es) the coins will be sent to before sending money? Or is it only after sending that they get a letter of guarantee etc?


Also, I'm not sure I would personally trust a business owner who conducts their business while high:

This crucial decision was made over some high quality Godfather OG Marijuana.

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

I don't have anything against recreational drug use, but it doesn't give me confidence that the business is being run in a professional manner. Much like Elon Musk smoking up. It's bad "optics". Best of luck with your mixing service, and I hope you consider some of the very good recommendations that have already been made. I like Eddie's idea of a signed receipt. Using a signed message from a publicly staked address that states the addresses entered would be good.

So lemme just explain why atobmixer doesn't wanna change that functionality, firstly he is not really into public mixing, they are more into private mixing for their private clients and also they mix their own coins using the system as they have lots of Bitcoin from sources. They didn't trust any mixer around and came up with their own mixer...

Now the problem is they can't prove source of income to declare tax and use the money, if they implement bitaddesss verification, they must send the coins to the Address even its wrong addresses, but now, like this scenario if an invalid address is inserted, they need not send the coins and that becomes profit and they declare tax and can use the money. They need this function to clean their money and only reason they are in public mixing is to declare that users made a mistake by inserting wrong Addess, mixing can't be done and that's now become profit,

They however have to abide by the law and can't scam because they need this services running to clean all their money.. And their private clients money...

If public uses this services, they will get good cleaned coins because atobmixer needs to show their site works not to get public trust, but to get the government trust that the are running a legit business and pay the tax..

They are not interested in 1-3% mixing fee. They are more interested in their own agenda... That's why the OP can effort to talk shyte and still get away because he is a genius that doesn't actually needs your trust or even use his services. He is above it all. Use if you wanna use or talk shyte is not his problem..

But now I feel the OP is pissed and aims to wipe out Chipmixer of the charts because maybe he was bored and needed someone to step on his toes and now seems like he is on a mission, a guy with lots of money and bored is not someone we should mess around with. He is capable of anything we can only dream of.

It was never the OP's intention to scam. If a right address is inserted, you will get your mixed coins... Its users responsibility to put the right address, and its negligible amount of people actually puts wrong addresses.

This is my opinion from what OP has said before...

[jasmine_crypto]

<...>

Just when you thought you couldn’t lose any more braincells from reading this thread...

Oh cool look who is talking about braincells,
Someone that goes around talking trash on other people's services, making statement like
"this is scam" without even testing the system
Even made statement like "looks like a website done after watching a 5 minute php tutorial"
And goes around commenting on every new mixer thread saying "another day another mixer appears, must be a scam"

Dude it's a free world, if you can't take compertion, so what if new mixers come into the market. Where it hurts you? Maybe being a loyal Chipmixer puppy, getting pennies out of  being a badge carrier for Chipmixer, not capable of making his own mixer and make the big cash, only knows how to critisize, you actually talking about the braincells of Asians.... You must be such a loser in real life too. Bet nothing much goes your way in real life, bet u have even failed to raise a functional family with this attitude. Your life is falling apart and you take your frustration on people online, being a bully. You must have been bullied in your school days I am guessing, feels good being a bully behind a keyboard now eh tough boy...

[jasmine_crypto]

<...>

Just when you thought you couldn’t lose any more braincells from reading this thread...

Oh cool look who is talking about braincells,
Someone that goes around talking trash on other people's services, making statement like
"this is scam" without even testing the system
Even made statement like "looks like a website done after watching a 5 minute php tutorial"
And goes around commenting on every new mixer thread saying "another day another mixer appears, must be a scam"

Dude it's a free world, if you can't take compertion, so what if new mixers come into the market. Where it hurts you? Maybe being a loyal Chipmixer puppy, getting pennies out of  being a badge carrier for Chipmixer, not capable of making his own mixer and make the big cash, only knows how to critisize, you actually talking about the braincells of Asians.... You must be such a loser in real life too. Bet nothing much goes your way in real life, bet u have even failed to raise a functional family with this attitude. Your life is falling apart and you take your frustration on people online, being a bully. You must have been bullied in your school days I am guessing, feels good being a bully behind a keyboard now eh tough boy...

Actually i apologise. I was actually talking about the other chipmixer's puppy TryNinja.. I retract what I said in my last post and direct that to TryNinja
Applogise on that mistake.

[Atobmixer]

another amazing mixing day

We from AtoBmixer would like to wish everyone Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2020
May this year brings good health wealth and wisdom.

From our proud family at ATOBMIXER DOT COM

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[SockyMcSockFace]

So lemme just explain why atobmixer doesn't wanna change that functionality, firstly he is not really into public mixing, they are more into private mixing for their private clients and also they mix their own coins using the system as they have lots of Bitcoin from sources. They didn't trust any mixer around and came up with their own mixer...

Now the problem is they can't prove source of income to declare tax and use the money, if they implement bitaddesss verification, they must send the coins to the Address even its wrong addresses, but now, like this scenario if an invalid address is inserted, they need not send the coins and that becomes profit and they declare tax and can use the money. They need this function to clean their money and only reason they are in public mixing is to declare that users made a mistake by inserting wrong Addess, mixing can't be done and that's now become profit,

That pretty much makes zero sense.

You're saying that the only reason this "public" mixer exists is so they can get people to make mistakes so they can keep the money and make profit that way so they can declare tax because they can't declare tax on and/or use the money from their private mixing?

Maybe next time, just try using this: http://programmingexcuses.com/

It'll probably make more sense.

This is my opinion from what OP has said before...

I would certainly hope that this isn't the actual reason why the OP is being so stubborn and belligerent...


@Atobmixer, you might want to find a better cheerleader

[marlboroza]

lemme put that in capital

So lemme just explain

~

I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.

 

[Atobmixer]

We take constructive suggestions objectively if it is inline with our business model,
We will soon update our site to display the addresses input by users and issue a ticket of guarantee for their reference
We have also disable cloud flare on our mixer sites.
We will be using a server side DDos protection services to enhance our security of our mixer
We are happy to announce that,
We are expending our mixer to partnership platforms.
We will officially make the announcement once we get green light from our CEO for an official publication.


Jessica
ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[laptop69]

Hello,

This site is a scam as far as "monero" is concerned.

I sent the equivalent of 30 euros to test the system, please look at picture 1.

https://ibb.co/f45SP18

I got the mixing code NRD8J8

I made a pasted copy of one of my "Mymonero" addresses and 24h00 later my wallet was still empty.

While searching for my mix, I came across this message, please look at picture 2.

https://i.postimg.cc/qMLhF2rw/atob.png

It's impossible that the logs are erased 24 hours after sending since the shortest time to receive the funds is 06h00. So if the funds had been sent the logs would have been deleted on January 15th at 06:00 am.

I sent an email to support and still no answer 20 hours after the message was sent.

Atobmixer => Monero => Scam

[Atobmixer]

Hello,

This site is a scam as far as "monero" is concerned.

I sent the equivalent of 30 euros to test the system, please look at picture 1.



I got the mixing code NRD8J8

I made a pasted copy of one of my "Mymonero" addresses and 24h00 later my wallet was still empty.

While searching for my mix, I came across this message, please look at picture 2.



It's impossible that the logs are erased 24 hours after sending since the shortest time to receive the funds is 06h00. So if the funds had been sent the logs would have been deleted on January 15th at 06:00 am.

I sent an email to support and still no answer 20 hours after the message was sent.

Atobmixer => Monero => Scam

Hi there,

The mechanism we deploy is to erase logs in 24 hours so the MP2C code will be deactivated , however if you have not receive your mixing funds there could be one of few reason,

possibly a wrong receiving address is inserted that the funds could not be transferred,
or
the use of bots to transfer the funds which our system is not designed to handle (stated in T&C)
or
we found a security breach that mixing safely was not possible (its better to be safe than to make a unsafe mixing) since clients privacy is our upmost priority
or
a malware in your system made a man in middle attack has changed your receiving address to other address

if we cant do a mixing due to security concerns , we will check the balance of each day transaction and if it match with what is claimed to be deposited , we will refund the unable to mix coins to the address specified in 7 days, provided there is no 2 parties claiming the same. in event 2 parties claim for the same funds, we will have to check on 2nd level proof with the transaction ID.

kindly PM us the exact date and time of the transaction and we will check on the blockchain as our internal database doesn't hold records of MP2C beyond 24 hours. if we can identify the transaction date and time and amount, we can solve this by checking with our daily balance if there is any extra funds. we make 100's of transactions daily and we cant identify the transaction you mentioned without the exact time of transfer.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

We are currently having issues with Binance coin mixing,

We running low on fresh Binance Coin from our suplier,

We will monitor the situation for another 48 hours or
we will discontinue the mixing for Binance

Carol Ming
ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

Great news,
We are continuing Binance mixing on our platform.
We are proud to announce that we are also looking into 4 more altcoins to be added into our system by April 2020

This will make us the only service provider that mixes to most amount of alt coins

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

Service maintenance notice

We will be conducting a scheduled maintainace
Services will not be available from 1st March 3PM UTC till 5PM UCT

Services will resume as usual after this,
This maintainace is due to the addition of a new coin into our mixing services

Atobmixer Admin

[Atobmixer]

Another great mixing day
Thank you all for the support

Atobmixer Admin

[Crazymoon]

Hello,

I followed all your rules, I've read everything before trying to mix my coins.
I deposited BTC to the requested address that showed up on the mixing page. I see the coins have been moved to another BTC address but so far I haven't received any coins. When I check with the code it still says "Mixing Status Waiting For Funds". It's been almost 3 days and still not a single BTC I have received. Yes, the address is correct and everything. I can put as much proof as needed.

[LeGaulois]

4 days without a reply to a customer inquiry is rather worrying when we're dealing with money, do you have a problem on the site?
Would you mind taking care of the problem with @crazymoon? He used your service 4 or 5 days ago and didn't receive anything. Apparently he tried to contact you but didn't receive any reply despite the fact you were logged in here.

You're not the only one behind the site so there is surely someone available to resolve his/her issue.

[JeromeTash]

Hello,

I followed all your rules, I've read everything before trying to mix my coins.
I deposited BTC to the requested address that showed up on the mixing page. I see the coins have been moved to another BTC address but so far I haven't received any coins. When I check with the code it still says "Mixing Status Waiting For Funds". It's been almost 3 days and still not a single BTC I have received. Yes, the address is correct and everything. I can put as much proof as needed.

These chaps have been very shady from day 1 and the movie script they are playing looks familiar to the Smartmixer exit scam. I would advise you to open up a scam accusation right away. I hope you didn't send them lots of Bitcoins.
Only use bitcoinmixers which have been operating for a long time and avoid such shady controversial services

[Crazymoon]

This is a scam mixer. Please do not use it guys! I have provided proof through PM to LeGaulois. Once he sees the PM, he can comment below and confirm that it's a scam.

[LeGaulois]

@crazymoon showed me details with addresses and when I checked the MP2C code it's still saying "Mixing Status Waiting For Fund". He started to mix on Feb 29. Knowing that @AtoBmixer stopped to log in here to reply to him, it doesn't smell good to use it.

@crazymoon
You should open a thread in the 'scam accusation' section