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[Atobmixer]

Hi There ,

I am working member of Atobmixer.com


Here is our profile ,



AtobMixer was designed in 2015 as our own mixing service as we has trust issues with other public mixers. We group of 3 students got hold of some bitcoins from a client to be mixed but we could not mix using public mixer. We then designed this mixer with help of funders. We did not outsource any part of this as we didnt want anyone to know how the mixer works and the internal building blocks of the mixer.

in 2017 we were the first in the market using MP2C System on TOR for private mixing for our exclusive clients and some public through word of mouth.
We just started marketing on Clearnet since 2019 for public

Atobmixer is a Bitcoin mixer that was started back in 2017 with only private mixing option available for some exclusive mixing opportunities. Now with the launch of the new and upgraded mixing for public, Atobmixer is now looking at public mixing opportunities for users around the world.

The MP2C Protocol
The current MP2C protocol developed by the technical team uses two pools, one of which is used only for receiving funds and the other is only used for sending funds. This helps ensure the all-important feature that you don’t get your mixed coins from two different pools which can cast a shadow over the effectiveness of the mixing program being used by the company.

Available Crypto currencies

Binance BNB
Bitcoin BTC
BitcoinCash BCH
BitcoinGold BTG
Dash DASH
Zcash ZEC
Monero XMR
Ethereum ETH
Ethereum Classic ETC
Horizen ZEN
Ripple XRP
Komodo KMD
LiteCoin LTC
Unobtanium UNO
Zcoin XZC
LiteCoinCash LCC

We support 16 cryptocurrencies including Monero, Although monero is an already privacy-centered coin in the cryptocurrency world, but using a compromised computer still leaves trails even on monero. The traceability index becomes zero after mixing on AtobMixer

Client Protocol and Privacy
Crypto mixing is completely legal and the secrecy of the identities of the users of the platforms are extremely important to the company. The whole idea of mixing is to increase the anonymity of mixer users around the world and compromising even a little bit on privacy and security is not an option.
Best advantage we stand is we operate from a country where we are not obligated to reveal logs as we are not operating in the Big 5 country and crypto mixing is legal here.


Visit the official website: https://www.atobmixer.com
TOR : atobmix5vwucluyj.onion
Learn more about the MP2C Protocol and Bitcoin Mixing process: https://atobmixer.com/learn/

We are also on TOR, It is advices to use proper anonymous connection to our TOR site to achieve highest anonymity, since our clearnet is integrated with google analytics for marketing purposes.

Should you face any issues with our services, or need more info, kindly contact us on our contact page or drop us a line here.

Happy mixing

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[The Cryptovator]

Welcome to the community. First thing is you should open you announcement thread on Service Announcements board, should buy copper membership to eligible create post with image. Your domain age just 20 days, means forum users are not well aware about your mixer nor they had used it. So you can't expect any review right now from the community. There should some reason why people should try your mixer instead of old trusted mixer those are already here from years. So create your ANN thread as I mention above with details explanation.    

[efialtis]

Welcome to the community. First thing is you should open you announcement thread on Service Announcements board, should buy copper membership to eligible create post with image. Your domain age just 20 days, means forum users are not well aware about your mixer nor they had used it. So you can't expect any review right now from the community. There should some reason why people should try your mixer instead of old trusted mixer those are already here from years. So create your ANN thread as I mention above with details explanation.    

You are absolutely right and thats what I also wanted to mention - while the OP is stating their service has been running since 2017, the domain name isnt as aged - actually not even a month old as you said.

Not looking to bash you or your service but that fact combined with the "style" you prepared your opening post to our community - well, it doesnt look too professional. By the way, some other mixing services gave trusted users small amounts of btc to try out the mixer in exchange for a review. This may also be a good idea.

Edit: It is not unlikely though that they just wanted to post their links and never get back... 

[Lanatsa]

Seem this is an ANN thread which this isnt the right place for that one. Take that suggestion above me on moving up the  topic and suggestion on purchasing up Copper mem.

If your part of the team of atobmixer then you should prioritize on how to market this mixer knowing that theres currently an old mixer which been trusted when it comes to mixing service.

You need some more review? Then make some bounty like test out of your mixer on giving the public some funds.

[TryNinja]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing out from nowhere these days.

[efialtis]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing from nowhere these days.

I think php / html tutorials arent even necessary for something like that  - you could buy a template for 5 bucks  But yeah, you are right, this looks very "dangerous"...

[AdolfinWolf]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing out from nowhere these days.

To build onto this:

- The site uses Google Analytics
- The site uses Cloudflare
- The site loads CDN content without integrity checks (ok,doable)
- If, and that's a big IF the status page (https://atobmixer.com/status/) would accurately display mixing statuses, it could easily be bruteforced.
The code is 6 characters long, and i don't think there's a rate limit. (Ok, maybe cloudflare would step in? )

Considering you only use letters and 0-9

Code:

~~~36^6 = 2176782336

Considering a speed of 1 million tries per second (and that's pretty, very modest for cleartext, no?).

One would have access to your entire mixing process in what? 2000 seconds?

Code:

2176782336/10^6 = 2176.782336 

(Unless i'm missing something here. I'd happily be corrected.)



But that's not to mention that you don't even check if the user has even copy & pasted a receiving adress.
And you use cloudflare...  

[Atobmixer]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing out from nowhere these days.

To build onto this:

- The site uses Google Analytics
- The site uses Cloudflare
- The site loads CDN content without integrity checks (ok,doable)
- If, and that's a big IF the status page (https://atobmixer.com/status/) would accurately display mixing statuses, it could easily be bruteforced.
The code is 6 characters long, and i don't think there's a rate limit. (Ok, maybe cloudflare would step in? )

Considering you only use letters and 0-9

Code:

~~~36^6 = 2176782336

Considering a speed of 1 million tries per second (and that's pretty, very modest for cleartext, no?).

One would have access to your entire mixing process in what? 2000 seconds?

Code:

2176782336/10^6 = 2176.782336 

(Unless i'm missing something here. I'd happily be corrected.)



But that's not to mention that you don't even check if the user has even copy & pasted a receiving adress.
And you use cloudflare...  

wow guys ,

yes use google analytics to rank on google search, you cant have a service on clearnet without those for marketing

cloudflare to avoid bots and DDos attacks

Status page is just stating fund received and any errors, then the logs are deleted in 24 hours , our database is clean every 24 hours

how we mix ? we receive from one pool and with the instructions received on our database, we send out using another pool. we send out using a pool from  legal gambling site funds deposits. so u will receive clean funds.


ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[TryNinja]

yes use google analytics to rank on google search, you cant have a service on clearnet without those for marketing

And also to give up on your user's privacy. Basically putting a third-party injected JS code, controlled and created by one of biggest US companies in the world, known for reading emails, spying and tracking users, and selling your data. Congrats.

cloudflare to avoid bots and DDos attacks

And to let them sniff all your traffic. By another US company... Good job.

Status page is just stating fund received and any errors, then the logs are deleted in 24 hours , our database is clean every 24 hours

So, it doesn't matter, right? Why don't you just make a public page with all your user's mixing information? Because anyone can get that in a couple of minutes, as explained above. Btw, a timestamp, (6-24 hours), the last 4 digits of the user's output address (also shown in the status page) and the pay-to address is more than enough to get anyone's complete mixing info. Basically making the process completly useless.

how we mix ? we receive from one pool and with the instructions received on our database, we send out using another pool. we send out using a pool from  legal gambling site funds deposits. so u will receive clean funds.

Btw, many services and gateways block their user's accounts if they receive coins from gambling websites. Even if what you are saying is truth and you don't just receive one coin to send to another user, that's the easiest way of getting your users' accounts, for example on Coinbase, cancelled.

Not to the mention that you still haven't implemented any kind verification for your user's receing address. The page shows:

"You will receive your mixed coins within 6-24 hours evenly distributed to this addresses
- empty space - "

And let's also not forget the fact that you claim to exist since 2017, but your domain was registered last month.

I really don't think you should be in the "mixers" business.

[Atobmixer]

yes use google analytics to rank on google search, you cant have a service on clearnet without those for marketing

And also to give up on your user's privacy. Basically putting a third-party injected JS code, controlled and created by one of biggest US companies in the world, known for reading emails, spying and tracking users, and selling your data. Congrats.

cloudflare to avoid bots and DDos attacks

And to let them sniff all your traffic. By another US company... Good job.

Status page is just stating fund received and any errors, then the logs are deleted in 24 hours , our database is clean every 24 hours

So, it doesn't matter, right? Why don't you just make a public page with all your user's mixing information? Because anyone can get that in a couple of minutes, as explained above. Btw, a timestamp, (6-24 hours), the last 4 digits of the user's output address (also shown in the status page) and the pay-to address is more than enough to get anyone's complete mixing info. Basically making the process completly useless.

how we mix ? we receive from one pool and with the instructions received on our database, we send out using another pool. we send out using a pool from  legal gambling site funds deposits. so u will receive clean funds.

Btw, many services and gateways block their user's accounts if they receive coins from gambling websites. Even if what you are saying is truth and you don't just receive one coin to send to another user, that's the easiest way of getting your users' accounts, for example on Coinbase, cancelled.

Not to the mention that you still haven't implemented any kind verification for your user's receing address. The page shows:

"You will receive your mixed coins within 6-24 hours evenly distributed to this addresses
- empty space - "

And let's also not forget the fact that you claim to exist since 2017, but your domain was registered last month.

I really don't think you should be in the "mixers" business.

We started our public mixing on TOR in 2017, we moved to clearnet in 2019 for marketing reasons. we been doing private mixes since 2015 for our private clients

Our services Terms and conditions clearly states mixing for privacy reasons to avoid trails and dusting which can reveal the total holding of an account balance , I see no reason why someone should be over paranoid with google analytics and cloudflare if their reason for mixing is for privacy as there is nothing private on clearnet to begin with. Right from your hardware processing ur inputs controlled by Intel to your memory dumps controlled by kingston up to your browser controlled by firefox,

As our services , it cuts the blockchain trails and you receive clean coins that is from gambling sites after its transferred through a series of pools . This coins are not illegally obtained to be blocked by coinbase and safe to use.


Should someone be over cautions with the reason of mixing, They should always use TOR site   atobmix5vwucluyj.onion where we dont use cloudflair and google analytics or javascipt . All traffic inwards are seen as 127.0.0.1


status page doesn't show any addresses

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing from nowhere these days.

I think php / html tutorials arent even necessary for something like that   - you could buy a template for 5 bucks   But yeah, you are right, this looks very "dangerous"...

We didnt want to outsource our page design and compromise our inner workings of our mixing system. we want to keep the circle of "know hows" to limited people to enhance privacy as even we use our mixers to mix our personal coins. If we hire outsiders to make a fancy "trustable" looking page , it will compromise security. Our team is not an expert at UI i guess but the working mixer mixes the coins and thats what matters.

Should anyone lose their money using our site, kindly contact us or msg here.

when type atobmixer on google, this pages appears on top 3 ranking so i guess as long as no scam complains, the service is up and running smoothly.
Just like how i want it my way on the highway

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing out from nowhere these days.

Thank you for your concerns. We truly understand you are an affiliate with Chip mixer , However its not ethical to degrade another services to prove your services superior. You could always test our services and then leave a review based on your experience.

We offer high quality mixing and if anyone has been scammed by our site, they can always put a line or 2 in our review. So far we have mixed without any issues

appreciate if you could test our services before being a whistleblower just based on "i think" " i suspect" basis , its very not professional

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[TryNinja]

Thank you for your concerns. We truly understand you are an affiliate with Chip mixer , However its not ethical to degrade another services to prove your services superior. You could always test our services and then leave a review based on your experience.

We offer high quality mixing and if anyone has been scammed by our site, they can always put a line or 2 in our review. So far we have mixed without any issues

appreciate if you could test our services before being a whistleblower just based on "i think" " i suspect" basis , its very not professional

I’m not affiliated to anyone. I simple rent my signature space for a company, which is unrelated to my own opinions. My post is meant for the community, in these moments where there are so many scam websites and mixers appearing every week. I have seen tens of new mixers showing up from nowhere and vanishing with the users coins. And I have vouched, helped and suggested many mixers other than ChipMixer before (including the now exit-scammed BitBlender).

Please, next time deal with the content of the post and what is being criticized, not with the guy potentially calling you out. You are not the first trying to discredit me based on my “biased” signature.

I’m not risking my coins with your mixer.

Cheers.

[Atobmixer]

ATOBMIXER Maintenance Notice

We will be scheduling a maintenance on our TOR site  atobmix5vwucluyj.onion

Services will not be available on 12 December 2019 from 13:00 UTC to 14:00 UTC

we are upgrading our servers as traffic bottleneck has caused slow page loading time.

Sorry for the inconvenience and happy mixing

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[efialtis]

Thank you for your concerns. We truly understand you are an affiliate with Chip mixer , However its not ethical to degrade another services to prove your services superior. You could always test our services and then leave a review based on your experience.

We offer high quality mixing and if anyone has been scammed by our site, they can always put a line or 2 in our review. So far we have mixed without any issues

appreciate if you could test our services before being a whistleblower just based on "i think" " i suspect" basis , its very not professional

I’m not affiliated to anyone. I simple rent my signature space for a company, which is unrelated to my own opinions. My post is meant for the community, in these moments where there are so many scam websites and mixers appearing every week. I have seen tens of new mixers showing up from nowhere and vanishing with the users coins. And I have vouched, helped and suggested many mixers other than ChipMixer before (including the now exit-scammed BitBlender).

Please, next time deal with the content of the post and what is being criticized, not with the guy potentially calling you out. You are not the first trying to discredit me based on my “biased” signature.

I’m not risking my coins with your mixer.

Cheers.

OP contacted me via PM asking me to remove my post(s) stating they are legit - I really dont mind receiving a PM and thats not the thing. Also let me say that his pm was very polite and friendly!

But he also mentioned I should just try them out and post a review and this is what I will not be doing - definitely not going to risk any coins with a service when there are so many question marks...

[Atobmixer]

[Service message]

we received ~106.00 USD but bot was used and therefore we could not mix the bitcoins since your bot caused a glitch in our PHP processor, (Your fast paced multiple request made to our PHP to execute the same code multiple time before it was able to send the data to the mixer standalone server)
who ever u r kindly contact us for refund back to your sending address, we cant mix this coins since its unsafe method of mixing, and we dont know who you are.
kindly talk to us before writing a review.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[AdolfinWolf]

[Service message]

we received ~106.00 USD but bot was used and therefore we could not mix the bitcoins since your bot caused a glitch in our PHP processor, (Your fast paced multiple request made to our PHP to execute the same code multiple time before it was able to send the data to the mixer standalone server)
who ever u r kindly contact us for refund back to your sending address, we cant mix this coins since its unsafe method of mixing, and we dont know who you are.
kindly talk to us before writing a review.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Someone actually sent you 106$, and you don’t know what adress he’d wanted to have his coins send to?
Is this a bad joke?
“Glitch in the PHP processor”,

We didnt want to outsource our page design and compromise our inner workings of our mixing system. we want to keep the circle of "know hows" to limited people to enhance privacy as even we use our mixers to mix our personal coins. If we hire outsiders to make a fancy "trustable" looking page , it will compromise security. Our team is not an expert at UI i guess Smiley but the working mixer mixes the coins and thats what matters.

We started our public mixing on TOR in 2017, we moved to clearnet in 2019 for marketing reasons. we been doing private mixes since 2015 for our private clients

you’ve been in business for 3 years and this hasn’t happend before? How interesting.
<smirks>

[Atobmixer]

[Service message]

we received ~106.00 USD but bot was used and therefore we could not mix the bitcoins since your bot caused a glitch in our PHP processor, (Your fast paced multiple request made to our PHP to execute the same code multiple time before it was able to send the data to the mixer standalone server)
who ever u r kindly contact us for refund back to your sending address, we cant mix this coins since its unsafe method of mixing, and we dont know who you are.
kindly talk to us before writing a review.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Someone actually sent you 106$, and you don’t know what adress he’d wanted to have his coins send to?
Is this a bad joke?
“Glitch in the PHP processor”,

We didnt want to outsource our page design and compromise our inner workings of our mixing system. we want to keep the circle of "know hows" to limited people to enhance privacy as even we use our mixers to mix our personal coins. If we hire outsiders to make a fancy "trustable" looking page , it will compromise security. Our team is not an expert at UI i guess Smiley but the working mixer mixes the coins and thats what matters.

We started our public mixing on TOR in 2017, we moved to clearnet in 2019 for marketing reasons. we been doing private mixes since 2015 for our private clients

you’ve been in business for 3 years and this hasn’t happend before? How interesting.
<smirks>

actually yeah, this never happened before, This person used a bot to send 22 entries at the same second (YES same second), with 22 different addresses to send out to, but our system only gave out only 3 sending addresses , and he deposited in 2 of our address (71 USD and 35 USD), because our PHP was not designed to handle such request in such short intervals,

and we actually dont know where to send the funds to, we are being honest that our system is not designed to handle this kind of automated request on our forms on our website, if wanna use bots, we have an API key for mass transactions.

actually our terms and condition states that the use of bots or automated systems is not allowed , however we  will be sending back to his original account provided he can give us the prove of identity by providing the MP2C code that was generated automatically by our system and the time of deposit to prove identity, we dont collect ID so we really dont know who

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[efialtis]

You guys are really doing yourselves a big favor with this thread...

[Atobmixer]

Great news, with our great hit on monero mixing,
We are in talks to add NEO (NEO) coin to our mixing services
We are very exited for this

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

The working members of ATOBMIXER has decided to add a wallet in our mixer as part of expansion of our mixer in 2020
We also going to add 16 more servers in other countries in 2020 from our existing 8 servers in different countries to avoid service shutdown by FEDS.
This crucial decision was made over some high quality Godfather OG Marijuana.

behalf of ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

As suggested by TryNinja

we have added a warning line on our clearnet

 <p class="check-url-orange" >For hyper sensitive users, kindly use TOR link to ensure highest level of anonymity in mixing </p>

thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[TryNinja]

As suggested by TryNinja

we have added a warning line on our clearnet

 <p class="check-url-orange" >For hyper sensitive users, kindly use TOR link to ensure highest level of anonymity in mixing </p>

thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,

That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.

[Atobmixer]

As suggested by TryNinja

we have added a warning line on our clearnet

 <p class="check-url-orange" >For hyper sensitive users, kindly use TOR link to ensure highest level of anonymity in mixing </p>

thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,

That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.

Thats a valid consideration, will work on that, most likely will do a server side validation
Thanks for the suggestion

p/s : Today been a good mixing day... cant wait for the wallet integration 

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,

That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.

Thanks to TryNinja's very constructive suggestion, we have made the changes :

1. This warns user to check their address before press mix now button
<center><p style="color:#FF4500">Ensure the addresses are correct before clicking STAR MIXING</p></center>
Ensure the addresses are correct before clicking STAR MIXING

2. ensures user enters a address to continue mixing
<center><h3 style="color:#FF4500">ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue</h3></center>
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue

We made the changes on both clear and TOR site

Thank you for your suggestion and we have made improvements


ATOBMIXER ADMIN

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

[AdolfinWolf]

2. ensures user enters a address to continue mixing
<center><h3 style="color:#FF4500">ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue</h3></center>
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue

We made the changes on both clear and TOR site

Thank you for your suggestion and we have made improvements


ATOBMIXER ADMIN

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

....
Damn. this isn't "ensures user enters a adress" it's "ensures user enters anything at all".
It solved exactly 0.
If someone now pastes in the adress with 1 character missing, what happens? You'll say it's valid, and then... you keep the money they send again?

Really, this if(input = any) check doesn't inspire great confidence you actually mix anything at all. But i've said this already.

[Atobmixer]

Damn. this isn't "ensures user enters a adress" it's "ensures user enters anything at all".
It solved exactly 0.
If someone now pastes in the adress with 1 character missing, what happens? You'll say it's valid, and then... you keep the money they send again?

Really, this if(input = any) check doesn't inspire great confidence you actually mix anything at all. But i've said this already.

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[AdolfinWolf]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

[jasmine_crypto]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

[Atobmixer]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.

I have no idea if the allegations are true , but our mixer if functioning for public and if you have not tried, dont just assume with "What if" statements, if your coins go missing in our mixer, talk about it here, else i would just feel you are just paranoid and think too much and a USD 20 to test the system before making any statements is a big money for you... USD20 is peanuts to if you have 17.2 Million USD in your account, just saying

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[AdolfinWolf]

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

I have no words. Why did you decide to post this from an account you used to promote your own mixer in the past?

the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent??

What? 1-3% per transaction is an insane ROI...

We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax,

What the..? When someone loses money due to your site being a primitive sack of shit, you simply say, oh well, that's our money now? That's good to know.

so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money.

So you deliberately don't implement safeguarding measures such as adress checksum checks so that, if the user, by accident, sends a wrong withdrawal adress, you can keep the funds? Huh...

 So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

...






Heh. How mysterious: - Looks like we found the obvious sockpuppet. Sigh.

This site https://www.atobmixer.com AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.

""She"" made a bunch of stupid nonsensical statements. I fail to see how that equates being a genius, but i suspect you know something here that i don't.

I have no idea if the allegations are true , but our mixer if functioning for public and if you have not tried, dont just assume with "What if" statements, if your coins go missing in our mixer, talk about it here, else i would just feel you are just paranoid and think too much and a USD 20 to test the system before making any statements is a big money for you... USD20 is peanuts to if you have 17.2 Million USD in your account, just saying

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

[jasmine_crypto]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

I have no words. Why did you decide to post this from an account you used to promote your own mixer in the past?

the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent??

What? 1-3% per transaction is an insane ROI...

We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax,

What the..? When someone loses money due to your site being a primitive sack of shit, you simply say, oh well, that's our money now? That's good to know.

so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money.

So you deliberately don't implement safeguarding measures such as adress checksum checks so that, if the user, by accident, sends a wrong withdrawal adress, you can keep the funds? Huh...

  So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

...






Heh. How mysterious:

This site https://www.atobmixer.com AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....

[Atobmixer]

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts

the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and  but had not actually tested the system themself

and to those paranoid people who knows how to only criticize (bet your life is not that great having this kind of attitude)
 
We have someone tested the services and our mixer is on the trusted list

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129376.0

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Thumbs up for the Russians

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[TryNinja]

Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts

the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Quoting for future reference. IMO, there is a very fine line between this and scamming. You don’t want to help your users or make sure they get your coins. You literally want to profit from people mistake’s. Most mixers do the opposite and try to help their users.

That must have been the stupidities thing I have ever read a mixer admin say. A integrity check literally costs nothing else to you and can be done in less than 20 minutes by someone with a basic coding knowledge. Literally just google what you gotta check and use it. There are tons of fully working examples everywhere.

I must say that I never really recommended people to NOT use a mixer, but yours will be the 2nd or 3rd. Why the heck should anyone use your mixer when YOU LITERALLY WANT TO PROFIT FROM “STUPIDITY” (honest mistakes)? FFS.

[LoyceV]

OP keeps creating new ANN-threads, trying to get rid of the negative posts. Unfortunately for him, Mods keep deleting them because it's against the forum rules.
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.

I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:

To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and  but had not actually tested the system themself

There's no reason to test a service that you don't trust. Even if they wouldn't steal a small amount, this post is what's expected when someone's building up to selective scamming. Like BITMIXCOIN.IO scam confirmed: 16+ Bitcoin stolen.

[Atobmixer]

Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts

the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Quoting for future reference. IMO, there is a very fine line between this and scamming. You don’t want to help your users or make sure they get your coins. You literally want to profit from people mistake’s. Most mixers you do the opposite and try to help their users.

That must have been the stupidities thing I have ever read a mixer admin say. A integrity check literally costs nothing else to you and can be done in less than 20 minutes by someone with a basic coding knowledge. Literally just google what you gotta check and use it. There are tons of fully working examples everywhere.

I must say that I never really recommended people to NOT use a mixer, but yours will be the 2nd or 3rd. Why the heck should anyone use your mixer when YOU LITERALLY WANT TO PROFIT FROM “STUPIDITY” (honest mistakes)? FFS.

I dont understand your claims, If you send bitcoin to a wrong address , even through a normal bitcoin transfer p2p , thats just stupidity. Its users responsibility to enter the right address

[Atobmixer]

OP keeps creating new ANN-threads, trying to get rid of the negative posts. Unfortunately for him, Mods keep deleting them because it's against the forum rules.
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.

I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:

To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and  but had not actually tested the system themself

There's no reason to test a service that you don't trust. Even if they wouldn't steal a small amount, this post is what's expected when someone's building up to selective scamming. Like BITMIXCOIN.IO scam confirmed: 16+ Bitcoin stolen.

Are you being a chipmixer bias marketing agents ?

   
Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
Today at 06:14:53 AM

we have collaborated with 37 websites "Top 10 mixers" ranked on google search and we  have ommited chipmixer from the list as they practice unmoral advertising strategies . The signature campaign AdolfinWolf and TryNinja just goes around making unjust remarks on other mixers without actually testing the services is a very bias marketing strategy thats tarnishes the good image of ChipMixer

We are taking actions against Chipmixer on a global level for all this bias agents unjust remarks on other services

[marlboroza]

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.

"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"

Leeme put that like this:

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.

[Atobmixer]

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.

"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"

Leeme put that like this:

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.

Another Chipmixer agent talking about stealing funds,

its actually simple, you enter the correct address and you get your funds mixed in a secured manner, if you enter a wrong address, we cant trackback your correct address. We are in the mixing business not in mind reading business , we cant read your mind if you put a wrong address and expect us to magically know your right address.

I dont understand your point here ... you are speaking on behalf of almost negligible amount of people who is dumb enough to put a wrong address and expect to get their funds ?

so you go to ebay and buy stuff and put a wrong address and you blame ebay for sending the item to the wrong address ?? be sensible
your argument is immature

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[AdolfinWolf]

I dont understand your point here ... you are speaking on behalf of almost negligible amount of people who is dumb enough to put a wrong address and expect to get their funds ?

so you go to ebay and buy stuff and put a wrong address and you blame ebay for sending the item to the wrong address ?? be sensible
your argument is immature

See, this is especially ironic considering that, if you enter an invalid postal code or adress, most reputable sites will mention that it is invalid.

Something you specifically refrain from doing. (Despite it costing less than 10 minutes to implement).

Also, the argument was never about a wrong adress- it was about an INVALID adress. "Ebay" won't keep your money if you entered an invalid shipping adress, while at the same time not sending anything out....

its actually simple, you enter the correct address and you get your funds mixed in a secured manner, if you enter a wrong address, we cant trackback your correct address. We are in the mixing business not in mind reading business , we cant read your mind if you put a wrong address and expect us to magically know your right address.

... You (purposefully) don't get what he said?..  ...You can always say that, whether the adress was right or wrong.

 "Oops, you pasted your adress wrong, the money is ours now!"  
-- Adding another unnecessary factor of trust.

I already know what your reply to this is going to be: "Muh M2POPOCPO code" - Yeah, you only store that for 24H, and the customer has another hoop to jump through, while he still doesn't know whether you're being malicious, or if it's actually their own fault. -- That also didn't work last time, right? The code was already deleted when you found out 106$ was stuck.

If you have the best intentions for your customers, i really, really don't understand why you're being so stubborn about trivial things such as this.

[Atobmixer]

I dont understand your point here ... you are speaking on behalf of almost negligible amount of people who is dumb enough to put a wrong address and expect to get their funds ?

so you go to ebay and buy stuff and put a wrong address and you blame ebay for sending the item to the wrong address ?? be sensible
your argument is immature

See, this is especially ironic considering that, if you enter a wrong postal code or adress, most reputable sites will mention that it is invalid.

Something you specifically refrain from doing. (Despite it costing less than 10 minutes to implement).

its actually simple, you enter the correct address and you get your funds mixed in a secured manner, if you enter a wrong address, we cant trackback your correct address. We are in the mixing business not in mind reading business , we cant read your mind if you put a wrong address and expect us to magically know your right address.

... You (purposefully) don't get what he said?..  ...You can always say that, whether the adress was right or wrong.

 "Oops, you pasted your adress wrong, the money is ours now!" 
-- Adding another unnecessary factor of trust.

We have confirmed that clearly in the past , if wrong address is entered , the money becomes ours

Users are advised to check their address before mixing.

Its users responsibility to ensure the address is correct.

If correct address is entered, then the mixing is done in a proper safe manner and logs are deleted after mixing.
We are the only mixer uses MP2C system where since we have so much of funds, the receiving pool and sending pool is totally different, we receive from one pool and send from a totally different pool.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[jasmine_crypto]

Stop it Choong, stop replying them and wasting your time, concentrate on bringing down Chipmixer just like how they brought you down with allegations, Chipmixer is actually operated by FBI? Work along this line and in 3 months, they are finished

[Atobmixer]

Stop it Choong, stop replying them and wasting your time, concentrate on bringing down Chipmixer just like how they brought you down with allegations, Chipmixer is actually operated by FBI? Work along this line and in 3 months, they are finished

Haizzzzz, i hate doing this kinddda stuff but left us with no choice, they stepped on the wrong shoe i guess. allegations over allegations...
what goes around comes around i guess. I will have to mirror their style just on a bigger global scale

[marlboroza]

I'll highlight important parts.

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

I dont understand your point here ...

So we Chinese

This is first time I have seen thumbler sharing their origin. Never mind, this part is interesting:

We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money

We service laundry for Bitcoin Monero Horizen Ripple Ethereum Classic Ethereum Komodo LiteCoin Unobtanium Zcoin Zcash Dash Binance BitcoinCash BitcoinGold LiteCoinCash in our mixer using MP2C tumbler technology for maximum anonymity

https://www.atobmixer.com/

Do you fill tax report with the same words?

Stop it Choong, stop replying them and wasting your time, concentrate on bringing down Chipmixer just like how they brought you down with allegations, Chipmixer is actually operated by FBI? Work along this line and in 3 months, they are finished

More sockpuppeting...so blackmail and defamation threats.

Stop it Choong

I don't know, Choong, you said:

~
I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.

[Atobmixer]

We file tax return report with "Online services"

Told you we operate from a region where the laws are open and as long as we pay tax, no questions asked, we need not provide logs, and our passport colour is dark brown , not blue not red sometimes green

laundry means mixing , not synonyms for money laundering

[Atobmixer]

WOW guys thank you so much
we are having a spike in our mixer thanks to you guys bumping the post
keep the argument going , go go go my lil soldiers
This is working out better for me

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[marlboroza]

laundry means mixing , not synonyms for money laundering

Where?

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

I dont understand your point here

Lets try different approach.

What happens if you take someone's funds because they maybe used "wrong" address, and your customer say they didn't?

Is it your word against theirs then?

[Atobmixer]

laundry means mixing , not synonyms for money laundering

Where?

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

I dont understand your point here

Lets try different approach.

What happens if you take someone's funds because they maybe used "wrong" address, and your customer said they didn't?

Is it your word against theirs then?

Dear Cheapmixer agent,

That doesnt happen if they input the right address, the coins are mixed and sent to them , no dispute needed.

again you are talking on something that never happened before

is your next question gonna be "what if a asteroid hits world and everyone dies, will you still send the mixed coins to the customers?"

If users input right address then its right and the mixing happens, coins are mixed in a secured manner using MP2C system,

However if they enter a wrong address then its donation towards our system and we pay tax and buy a bottles of wine and enjoy with the Russian girls with the money.

So please ensure the address is entered correctly or we are buying wine with the money received as donation towards our system.

Atobmixer ADMIN

[marlboroza]

Dear Cheapmixer agent,

That doesnt happen if they input the right address, the coins are mixed and sent to them , no dispute needed.

Dear moron,

what happens if you take someone's funds because they maybe used "wrong" address, and your customer say they didn't?

[Atobmixer]

Dear Cheapmixer agent,

That doesnt happen if they input the right address, the coins are mixed and sent to them , no dispute needed.

Dear moron,

what happens if you take someone's funds because they maybe used "wrong" address, and your customer say they didn't?

Dear Chipmixer agent,

That doesnt happen, if they put the right address , they will get their funds mixed using secured MP2C mixing system. No dispute needed

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[eddie13]

However if they enter a wrong address then its donation towards our system and we pay tax and buy a bottles of wine and enjoy with the Russian girls with the money.

So please ensure the address is entered correctly or we are buying wine with the money received as donation towards our system.

Lol, that is the disclaimer you should put on the site!

[Atobmixer]

However if they enter a wrong address then its donation towards our system and we pay tax and buy a bottles of wine and enjoy with the Russian girls with the money.

So please ensure the address is entered correctly or we are buying wine with the money received as donation towards our system.

Lol, that is the disclaimer you should put on the site!

LOL LOL you seriously cracked me up, LOL you made my day, i wish i could actually do that, that would be fun

[TryNinja]

LOL. Sounds like a teenager that decided to « open an easy business » and now went full mental breakdown. I started posting as a worry community member - just like I did with other mixers, which sometimes even lead to me chearing for them - but now it’s pretty clear that OP should NOT own any website at all. This whole behavior makes me doubt if he even does anything with the coins - like he says - or just sends coins from an address to the other (probably the last one). Actions and behavior speaks higher than words (empty ones).

There is no point of return anymore, OP. I don’t think you will be getting many customers after all of this (you will probably say otherwise, tho. lol).

Just one last thing, if that matters. People are here for years and they act the same for everyone. You can scream all you want that this is a ChipMixer raid, but anyone with a half brain can see that the concerns are 100% valid.

[Atobmixer]

LOL. Sounds like a teenager that decided to « open an easy business » and now went full mental breakdown. I started posting as a worry community member - just like I did with other mixers, which sometimes even lead to me chearing for them - but now it’s pretty clear that OP should NOT own any website at all. This whole behavior makes me doubt if he even does anything with the coins - like he says - or just sends coins from an address to the other (probably the last one). Actions and behavior speaks higher than words (empty ones).

There is no point of return anymore, OP. I don’t think you will be getting many customers after all of this (you will probably say otherwise, tho. lol).

Just one last thing, if that matters. People are here for years and they act the same for everyone. You can scream all you want that this is a ChipMixer raid, but anyone with a half brain can see that the concerns are 100% valid.

OK so we are done with your assumptions , so we can move on now

was a pleasure

[eddie13]

What happens if you take someone's funds because they maybe used "wrong" address, and your customer say they didn't?

Is it your word against theirs then?

This is a valid concern..

If you (mixer guy) want to consider invalid addresses as donations you should clearly state that on the page and provide a way for customers to prove what addresses they entered with an unforgeable receipt or something before the mixing process is started, to protect you both in case of any scam accusations...

i wish i could actually do that, that would be fun

I think you need to state something similar even if you don't have the balls to keep the wine and prostitutes part..
Or implement address verification like other users here are recommending..

You can scream all you want that this is a ChipMixer raid, but anyone with a half brain can see that the concerns are 100% valid.

Imagine never being on Bitcointalk before, googling "bitcoin mixer", and ending up reading this thread..
All the chipmixer signatures do look like shit if someone didn't know better..

Not to say concerns aren't valid, but wearing signatures does have its downsides..

[Atobmixer]

What happens if you take someone's funds because they maybe used "wrong" address, and your customer say they didn't?

Is it your word against theirs then?

This is a valid concern..

If you (mixer guy) want to consider invalid addresses as donations you should clearly state that on the page and provide a way for customers to prove what addresses they entered with an unforgeable receipt or something before the mixing process is started, to protect you both in case of any scam accusations...

i wish i could actually do that, that would be fun

I think you need to state something similar even if you don't have the balls to keep the wine and prostitutes part..
Or implement address verification like other users here are recommending..

You can scream all you want that this is a ChipMixer raid, but anyone with a half brain can see that the concerns are 100% valid.

Imagine never being on Bitcointalk before, googling "bitcoin mixer", and ending up reading this thread..
All the chipmixer signatures do look like shit if someone didn't know better..

Not to say concerns aren't valid, but wearing signatures does have its downsides..

Yes you are right, will work on the receipt for scam accusations, what you say sounds wayyyyy more professional and very constructive suggestion, the way you said it makes alot of different compared to the chipmixer agents, they were all about accusation, negative marketing, and defaming i would never want my badge on any of them ever , it will be a disgrace to my website's good name

Eitherway, FYI the game is still on, I give it 3 months, you defame me , i defame you, being a mirror , i behave like how you behave

[marlboroza]

Yes you are right, will work on the receipt for scam accusations, what you say sounds wayyyyy more professional and very constructive suggestion, the way you said it makes alot of different compared to the chipmixer agents, they were all about accusation, negative marketing, and defaming i would never want my badge on any of them ever , it will be a disgrace to my website's good name

Eddie13 more or less repeated what I asked you...

Imagine never being on Bitcointalk before, googling "bitcoin mixer", and ending up reading this thread..
All the chipmixer signatures do look like shit if someone didn't know better..

Not to say concerns aren't valid, but wearing signatures does have its downsides..

It might look like that, but if someone posted some concerns from newbie account, they would be accused of spreading FUD from newbie account and "they are scared to post from their real account so their voice doesn't count", or accounts with signature are usually accused of spamming for cents, or accounts without signature are usually accused of just spreading FUD.

Non of that really addresses anything, final line, "who" is pretty much irrelevant.

what you say sounds wayyyyy more professional and very constructive suggestion, the way you said it makes alot of different compared to the chipmixer agents

Are you really pulling this card?

However if they enter a wrong address then its donation towards our system and we pay tax and buy a bottles of wine and enjoy with the Russian girls with the money.

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

[SockyMcSockFace]

Is it really that difficult to implement basic address validation? Instead of simply putting all the onus on the user to ensure everything is 100% correct, shouldn't (wouldn't?) a "professional" want to try to mitigate the risks and make things as easy and "safe" as possible for the end user?

Almost all decent services (mixers, exchanges, gambling sites etc) have some sort of basic address validation to prevent users from entering an "invalid" address. Note that this is a completely different scenario to a "wrong" address, which could be caused by copy/paste virus or the user copying from the wrong wallet etc. You can't easily protect against that. You can however easily stop a user entering "thisISMyBitcoinAddress" in a bitcoin address field!

However, I can type whatever I want in the box, "gfhfghjgffghgfhfghdh" and then when I try to mix I see:
https://i.imgur.com/kd9Jftd.png

So, it would seem that a user can't even double check that the address has been entered correctly before sending money. Is there a way that the user can do a last minute double check what address(es) the coins will be sent to before sending money? Or is it only after sending that they get a letter of guarantee etc?


Also, I'm not sure I would personally trust a business owner who conducts their business while high:

This crucial decision was made over some high quality Godfather OG Marijuana.

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

I don't have anything against recreational drug use, but it doesn't give me confidence that the business is being run in a professional manner. Much like Elon Musk smoking up. It's bad "optics". Best of luck with your mixing service, and I hope you consider some of the very good recommendations that have already been made. I like Eddie's idea of a signed receipt. Using a signed message from a publicly staked address that states the addresses entered would be good.

[eddie13]

you defame me , i defame you, being a mirror , i behave like how you behave

Let me explain some things to you..

As far as I know not a single one of these users have anything to do with ChipMixer other than being paid to advertise for them with their add on every one of their posts..
They are not in any way agents of the company ChipMixer, or out to hurt the competition of ChipMixer..  
I have tried doing the same thing, advertising for CM like them, but they have not accepted me, because reasons..

The CM advertising campaign is the best of the best and highest paid on the forum, and they have limited positions, so only the best of the best users get accepted by them..
Therefore, when you see someone wearing a CM advertising signature, you can reasonably deduce from that that they are some of the best and most powerful users on this forum.. If you want to have a good time here you do not want to get on their bad side, which you are doing..

You should darn well know how many scams their are in the crypto space so how can you blame them for scrutinizing and finding flaws in your service?
You come with this out of the middle of nowhere, ofcourse it looks like it could possibly be a scam to most of us.. Ok, yeah, maybe they aren't so nice about it all the time..

Fighting with them is not a good plan.. It is a losing strategy if you want to be here on this forum.. ChipMixer actually has absolutely nothing to do with this so attacking ChipMixer is also a poor strategy..


A good strategy would be to work on fixing these flaws that have been identified with your mixer, and trying to salvage what you can of your relationship with these users..

The first thing you should do is remove the negative feedback you left on their profiles, because now you know they aren't "ChipMixer" or CM agents/employees at all..
Maybe apologize a little bit for being a noob here and not knowing how things work around here, and coming in with a bit too big of a head..
Then, maybe, you can eventually get them to remove their negative they put onto your profile, which would be very good for you if you want your service to have any success here..

Your sent negatives are basically meaningless no matter what words they contain, on the other hand their negatives are very powerful.. You are far outgunned in that department, and you fucked up by doing that in more ways than one.. So you should most definitely take it back or it won't matter how good your mixer is or not, you will just end up screwed because of your mistakes..
Don't use that negative button atleast untill you know what you are doing.. It's kinda a big deal..

[Atobmixer]

"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"

Leeme put that like this:

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.

This is a valid concern..

If you (mixer guy) want to consider invalid addresses as donations you should clearly state that on the page and provide a way for customers to prove what addresses they entered with an unforgeable receipt or something before the mixing process is started, to protect you both in case of any scam accusations...

Do you see the professionalism portaited by eddie13 ? and what of unprofessioanal remarks made by marlboroza by accusations of something that has not happen ? All i know is Chipmixer agents has caused huge trust impact on our well running services with many accusations and many many "What If's statements" although we have zero scam accusations to date. We are gonna follow suit.

You want us to prove we are not running a scam mixer, we will do right after Chipmixer proves they are not operated by FBI

[Atobmixer]

After such a hot weather day yesterday, today seems cooler,
Our mixer is running great , with zero disputes....
amazing day , amazing day .....


ATOBMIXER ADMIN 

[jasmine_crypto]

Is it really that difficult to implement basic address validation? Instead of simply putting all the onus on the user to ensure everything is 100% correct, shouldn't (wouldn't?) a "professional" want to try to mitigate the risks and make things as easy and "safe" as possible for the end user?

Almost all decent services (mixers, exchanges, gambling sites etc) have some sort of basic address validation to prevent users from entering an "invalid" address. Note that this is a completely different scenario to a "wrong" address, which could be caused by copy/paste virus or the user copying from the wrong wallet etc. You can't easily protect against that. You can however easily stop a user entering "thisISMyBitcoinAddress" in a bitcoin address field!

However, I can type whatever I want in the box, "gfhfghjgffghgfhfghdh" and then when I try to mix I see:
https://i.imgur.com/kd9Jftd.png

So, it would seem that a user can't even double check that the address has been entered correctly before sending money. Is there a way that the user can do a last minute double check what address(es) the coins will be sent to before sending money? Or is it only after sending that they get a letter of guarantee etc?


Also, I'm not sure I would personally trust a business owner who conducts their business while high:

This crucial decision was made over some high quality Godfather OG Marijuana.

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

I don't have anything against recreational drug use, but it doesn't give me confidence that the business is being run in a professional manner. Much like Elon Musk smoking up. It's bad "optics". Best of luck with your mixing service, and I hope you consider some of the very good recommendations that have already been made. I like Eddie's idea of a signed receipt. Using a signed message from a publicly staked address that states the addresses entered would be good.

So lemme just explain why atobmixer doesn't wanna change that functionality, firstly he is not really into public mixing, they are more into private mixing for their private clients and also they mix their own coins using the system as they have lots of Bitcoin from sources. They didn't trust any mixer around and came up with their own mixer...

Now the problem is they can't prove source of income to declare tax and use the money, if they implement bitaddesss verification, they must send the coins to the Address even its wrong addresses, but now, like this scenario if an invalid address is inserted, they need not send the coins and that becomes profit and they declare tax and can use the money. They need this function to clean their money and only reason they are in public mixing is to declare that users made a mistake by inserting wrong Addess, mixing can't be done and that's now become profit,

They however have to abide by the law and can't scam because they need this services running to clean all their money.. And their private clients money...

If public uses this services, they will get good cleaned coins because atobmixer needs to show their site works not to get public trust, but to get the government trust that the are running a legit business and pay the tax..

They are not interested in 1-3% mixing fee. They are more interested in their own agenda... That's why the OP can effort to talk shyte and still get away because he is a genius that doesn't actually needs your trust or even use his services. He is above it all. Use if you wanna use or talk shyte is not his problem..

But now I feel the OP is pissed and aims to wipe out Chipmixer of the charts because maybe he was bored and needed someone to step on his toes and now seems like he is on a mission, a guy with lots of money and bored is not someone we should mess around with. He is capable of anything we can only dream of.

It was never the OP's intention to scam. If a right address is inserted, you will get your mixed coins... Its users responsibility to put the right address, and its negligible amount of people actually puts wrong addresses.

This is my opinion from what OP has said before...

[jasmine_crypto]

<...>

Just when you thought you couldn’t lose any more braincells from reading this thread...

Oh cool look who is talking about braincells,
Someone that goes around talking trash on other people's services, making statement like
"this is scam" without even testing the system
Even made statement like "looks like a website done after watching a 5 minute php tutorial"
And goes around commenting on every new mixer thread saying "another day another mixer appears, must be a scam"

Dude it's a free world, if you can't take compertion, so what if new mixers come into the market. Where it hurts you? Maybe being a loyal Chipmixer puppy, getting pennies out of  being a badge carrier for Chipmixer, not capable of making his own mixer and make the big cash, only knows how to critisize, you actually talking about the braincells of Asians.... You must be such a loser in real life too. Bet nothing much goes your way in real life, bet u have even failed to raise a functional family with this attitude. Your life is falling apart and you take your frustration on people online, being a bully. You must have been bullied in your school days I am guessing, feels good being a bully behind a keyboard now eh tough boy...

[jasmine_crypto]

<...>

Just when you thought you couldn’t lose any more braincells from reading this thread...

Oh cool look who is talking about braincells,
Someone that goes around talking trash on other people's services, making statement like
"this is scam" without even testing the system
Even made statement like "looks like a website done after watching a 5 minute php tutorial"
And goes around commenting on every new mixer thread saying "another day another mixer appears, must be a scam"

Dude it's a free world, if you can't take compertion, so what if new mixers come into the market. Where it hurts you? Maybe being a loyal Chipmixer puppy, getting pennies out of  being a badge carrier for Chipmixer, not capable of making his own mixer and make the big cash, only knows how to critisize, you actually talking about the braincells of Asians.... You must be such a loser in real life too. Bet nothing much goes your way in real life, bet u have even failed to raise a functional family with this attitude. Your life is falling apart and you take your frustration on people online, being a bully. You must have been bullied in your school days I am guessing, feels good being a bully behind a keyboard now eh tough boy...

Actually i apologise. I was actually talking about the other chipmixer's puppy TryNinja.. I retract what I said in my last post and direct that to TryNinja
Applogise on that mistake.

[Atobmixer]

another amazing mixing day

We from AtoBmixer would like to wish everyone Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2020
May this year brings good health wealth and wisdom.

From our proud family at ATOBMIXER DOT COM

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[SockyMcSockFace]

So lemme just explain why atobmixer doesn't wanna change that functionality, firstly he is not really into public mixing, they are more into private mixing for their private clients and also they mix their own coins using the system as they have lots of Bitcoin from sources. They didn't trust any mixer around and came up with their own mixer...

Now the problem is they can't prove source of income to declare tax and use the money, if they implement bitaddesss verification, they must send the coins to the Address even its wrong addresses, but now, like this scenario if an invalid address is inserted, they need not send the coins and that becomes profit and they declare tax and can use the money. They need this function to clean their money and only reason they are in public mixing is to declare that users made a mistake by inserting wrong Addess, mixing can't be done and that's now become profit,

That pretty much makes zero sense.

You're saying that the only reason this "public" mixer exists is so they can get people to make mistakes so they can keep the money and make profit that way so they can declare tax because they can't declare tax on and/or use the money from their private mixing?

Maybe next time, just try using this: http://programmingexcuses.com/

It'll probably make more sense.

This is my opinion from what OP has said before...

I would certainly hope that this isn't the actual reason why the OP is being so stubborn and belligerent...


@Atobmixer, you might want to find a better cheerleader

[marlboroza]

lemme put that in capital

So lemme just explain

~

I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.

 

[Atobmixer]

We take constructive suggestions objectively if it is inline with our business model,
We will soon update our site to display the addresses input by users and issue a ticket of guarantee for their reference
We have also disable cloud flare on our mixer sites.
We will be using a server side DDos protection services to enhance our security of our mixer
We are happy to announce that,
We are expending our mixer to partnership platforms.
We will officially make the announcement once we get green light from our CEO for an official publication.


Jessica
ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[laptop69]

Hello,

This site is a scam as far as "monero" is concerned.

I sent the equivalent of 30 euros to test the system, please look at picture 1.

https://ibb.co/f45SP18

I got the mixing code NRD8J8

I made a pasted copy of one of my "Mymonero" addresses and 24h00 later my wallet was still empty.

While searching for my mix, I came across this message, please look at picture 2.

https://i.postimg.cc/qMLhF2rw/atob.png

It's impossible that the logs are erased 24 hours after sending since the shortest time to receive the funds is 06h00. So if the funds had been sent the logs would have been deleted on January 15th at 06:00 am.

I sent an email to support and still no answer 20 hours after the message was sent.

Atobmixer => Monero => Scam

[Atobmixer]

Hello,

This site is a scam as far as "monero" is concerned.

I sent the equivalent of 30 euros to test the system, please look at picture 1.



I got the mixing code NRD8J8

I made a pasted copy of one of my "Mymonero" addresses and 24h00 later my wallet was still empty.

While searching for my mix, I came across this message, please look at picture 2.



It's impossible that the logs are erased 24 hours after sending since the shortest time to receive the funds is 06h00. So if the funds had been sent the logs would have been deleted on January 15th at 06:00 am.

I sent an email to support and still no answer 20 hours after the message was sent.

Atobmixer => Monero => Scam

Hi there,

The mechanism we deploy is to erase logs in 24 hours so the MP2C code will be deactivated , however if you have not receive your mixing funds there could be one of few reason,

possibly a wrong receiving address is inserted that the funds could not be transferred,
or
the use of bots to transfer the funds which our system is not designed to handle (stated in T&C)
or
we found a security breach that mixing safely was not possible (its better to be safe than to make a unsafe mixing) since clients privacy is our upmost priority
or
a malware in your system made a man in middle attack has changed your receiving address to other address

if we cant do a mixing due to security concerns , we will check the balance of each day transaction and if it match with what is claimed to be deposited , we will refund the unable to mix coins to the address specified in 7 days, provided there is no 2 parties claiming the same. in event 2 parties claim for the same funds, we will have to check on 2nd level proof with the transaction ID.

kindly PM us the exact date and time of the transaction and we will check on the blockchain as our internal database doesn't hold records of MP2C beyond 24 hours. if we can identify the transaction date and time and amount, we can solve this by checking with our daily balance if there is any extra funds. we make 100's of transactions daily and we cant identify the transaction you mentioned without the exact time of transfer.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

We are currently having issues with Binance coin mixing,

We running low on fresh Binance Coin from our suplier,

We will monitor the situation for another 48 hours or
we will discontinue the mixing for Binance

Carol Ming
ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

Great news,
We are continuing Binance mixing on our platform.
We are proud to announce that we are also looking into 4 more altcoins to be added into our system by April 2020

This will make us the only service provider that mixes to most amount of alt coins

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

Service maintenance notice

We will be conducting a scheduled maintainace
Services will not be available from 1st March 3PM UTC till 5PM UCT

Services will resume as usual after this,
This maintainace is due to the addition of a new coin into our mixing services

Atobmixer Admin

[Atobmixer]

Another great mixing day
Thank you all for the support

Atobmixer Admin

[Crazymoon]

Hello,

I followed all your rules, I've read everything before trying to mix my coins.
I deposited BTC to the requested address that showed up on the mixing page. I see the coins have been moved to another BTC address but so far I haven't received any coins. When I check with the code it still says "Mixing Status Waiting For Funds". It's been almost 3 days and still not a single BTC I have received. Yes, the address is correct and everything. I can put as much proof as needed.

[LeGaulois]

4 days without a reply to a customer inquiry is rather worrying when we're dealing with money, do you have a problem on the site?
Would you mind taking care of the problem with @crazymoon? He used your service 4 or 5 days ago and didn't receive anything. Apparently he tried to contact you but didn't receive any reply despite the fact you were logged in here.

You're not the only one behind the site so there is surely someone available to resolve his/her issue.

[JeromeTash]

Hello,

I followed all your rules, I've read everything before trying to mix my coins.
I deposited BTC to the requested address that showed up on the mixing page. I see the coins have been moved to another BTC address but so far I haven't received any coins. When I check with the code it still says "Mixing Status Waiting For Funds". It's been almost 3 days and still not a single BTC I have received. Yes, the address is correct and everything. I can put as much proof as needed.

These chaps have been very shady from day 1 and the movie script they are playing looks familiar to the Smartmixer exit scam. I would advise you to open up a scam accusation right away. I hope you didn't send them lots of Bitcoins.
Only use bitcoinmixers which have been operating for a long time and avoid such shady controversial services

[Crazymoon]

This is a scam mixer. Please do not use it guys! I have provided proof through PM to LeGaulois. Once he sees the PM, he can comment below and confirm that it's a scam.

[LeGaulois]

@crazymoon showed me details with addresses and when I checked the MP2C code it's still saying "Mixing Status Waiting For Fund". He started to mix on Feb 29. Knowing that @AtoBmixer stopped to log in here to reply to him, it doesn't smell good to use it.

@crazymoon
You should open a thread in the 'scam accusation' section

[Atobmixer]

Hi crazy moon, can you PM me the transaction details so we can look into this matter

Atobmixer admin

[Crazymoon]

Hi crazy moon, can you PM me the transaction details so we can look into this matter

Atobmixer admin

I already sent you private message last night ...

[hakaiserpent]

100% sure this is a scam. 

Here is why I think that:

1.  I used the URL: http://atobmix5vwucluyj.onion/ and when I "Check Mix" the status is:  Status : "Waiting For Funds"

 

2.  I contacted the admin via: http://atobmix5vwucluyj.onion/contact/ and got no response.

3.  I checked the transaction ID on Blockchain.com and the received time is 2020-03-10 18:59 with 237 confirmations.  I'd be happy to share the transactionID with an admin over PGP. 

Note: I will edit or repost if anything is resolved, but tread this with the upmost caution based on my experience and the posted before me

It seems I'm 0/2 with mixers recently and I'm down $500.  Its a shame as these formerly reliable services have been replaced by sprawling scams.  I think the only legit solution I'd try in the future is Wasabi Wallet's coin join and similar methodologies. 

[TryNinja]

It seems I'm 0/2 with mixers recently and I'm down $500.  Its a shame as these formerly reliable services have been replaced by sprawling scams.  I think the only legit solution I'd try in the future is Wasabi Wallet's coin join and similar methodologies. 

That's because you are using the wrong mixers. Yes, I am biased (my signature) but ChipMixer has mixed hundreds of BTCs at the same time without exit scamming and they spent literally millions on advertising here. This alone makes them more trusted than these random mixers that appear from time to time.

[Atobmixer]

The mixer is working fine, there is no roll over funds from our mixing from the past 14 days, we would like to understand further on this issue, kindly share us more info

Atobmixer admin

[hakaiserpent]

@atobmixer, can you share my your PGP public key and I'll happily post the details of the transaction on this forum?

I tried to send you a DM but it does not allow me as this is a newbie account.  PS.  As mentioned I've already contacted you via atobmix5vwucluyj.onion. 

My temporary email is hakaiserpent@gmail.com so please reach out, will happily update these posts if the matter is resolved. 

[Crazymoon]

The mixer is working fine, there is no roll over funds from our mixing from the past 14 days, we would like to understand further on this issue, kindly share us more info

Atobmixer admin

You are getting online on a daily basis at least 3-5 times. Yet, it took you a couple of days to even reply to this thread. Even though you were getting online on a daily basis and still reading this thread. Look when I decided to post in this thread. And no, I would keep calling this mixer a scam until I get the funds. There's already enough evidence and it's been way too long since I tried to use "your service". I even PM'ed you, but yet you decide to ignore.

Even though I already gave up and I know I was scammed, I decided today to just check again the MP2C code and still it says "Mixing Status Waiting For Funds".

All I am trying to say is that you are just buying a time, like you are playing "nice" or "innocent" so someone else will come and decide to mix large amount and get scammed.

And this what is written on your website is truly false "We reply all our clients within 1-24 hours and we suport PGP encryption". Even before writing in here I contacted you through the "contact" form on your website and yet you haven't replied. Still in here you are finding excuses... I don't care about the amount as it's only $30 worth of BTC.

Even though you somehow try to send me the funds and I receive it, I will be more than happy to apologize but I would never be using your service as this is way too shady. People shouldn't wait for 2 weeks to get their funds ...

[JeromeTash]

-snip-

Even thou you don't care about the $30 worth of BTC. Please I would advise you to open up a scam accusation so that other newbies can avoid this mixer. DT memebers might also leave them negative feedback and flags based on your previous experience with them.

They are obviously never to be trust as new complaints are starting to come in.

[Atobmixer]

We will look into this and update you soonest.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Crazymoon]

We will look into this and update you soonest.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

So, how long this would take? Another 2 weeks or?

[hakaiserpent]

We will look into this and update you soonest.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Please look into why you aren't responding to my message in this thread or my message submitted through your contact form while you are at it...   

How does one make a scam accusation?  I've tracked my information well.   

[TryNinja]

How does one make a scam accusation?  I've tracked my information well.   

You can make one in the Scam Accusations board and with this format.

You can also create a flag against him with all your evidence and I'll support if there is enough.

[JeromeTash]

We will look into this and update you soonest.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

What a joke.
How long does a client have to wait to have their coins mixed? A month?
In fact @crazymoon has been someone who is very lenient. If it had happened to someone else or even me... Just know that you would already be having a sizeable number of negative tags on your profile.

[hakaiserpent]

Thank you TryNinja, I reported the scam here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233545

I'll chalk it up to a relatively expensive lesson but it ain't the end of the world as I was mostly interested in learning about how mixers work.  Careful out there! 

[JeromeTash]

Thank you TryNinja, I reported the scam here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233545

I'll chalk it up to a relatively expensive lesson but it ain't the end of the world as I was mostly interested in learning about how mixers work.  Careful out there! 

Goes out to show how low life and cheap the scammers behind Atobmixer are.
It's one more reason to avoid new mixers that pop out of nowhere?
Always stick to the old more reputable and reliable mixers that have been in business for a while.

[Atobmixer]

We have run a diagnostic on our system and we found no amount of unmixed fund in our mixer. We have looked into our aqusation claim repost and found those to be as no basis, our mixer is working perfectly.

Atobmixer admin

[hakaiserpent]

We have run a diagnostic on our system and we found no amount of unmixed fund in our mixer. We have looked into our acquisition claim repost and found those to be as no basis, our mixer is working perfectly.

Atobmixer admin

Indeed it is, perfectly as in unsuspecting newbs like myself send you coins and you do not send them back.  Insert the above post over an over (social aspect to the scam) to cast just enough doubt (perhaps we are the scammers right, trying to tarnish your good name) and with that perhaps you'll catch another newb.  Enjoy my coins! 

[logfiles]

We have run a diagnostic on our system and we found no amount of unmixed fund in our mixer. We have looked into our aqusation claim repost and found those to be as no basis, our mixer is working perfectly.

Atobmixer admin

Nice try.
Try scamming people from other forums... Bitcointalk is not for you. Adding you my negative feedback soon. Someone can't wait for over 2 weeks and then you claim there were no unmixed funds in your mixer. It's stupid!!!

[Crazymoon]

We have run a diagnostic on our system and we found no amount of unmixed fund in our mixer. We have looked into our aqusation claim repost and found those to be as no basis, our mixer is working perfectly.

Atobmixer admin

0 response through PM, even though I've PM'ed you with the transaction details.

Looks like a nice java script you are running on your website.

Don't use this mixer guys. It's a scam. I don't care about my $30 that I've lost but someone might try and do big amount. So don't do it guys. I can't open scam accusation and provide details due to me being limited to a certain point. But if any member from Sr. Member and above that is interested I will provide you details through PM, so you can take a closer look.

[Atobmixer]

We do so many mixing a day, I don't see any issues with our site. We undertand there has been parties that were hired to bring a bad name to our mixer, every accusations are from new registed accounts on bitcoin talk forum. We are looking at who are this group that is making this false aqusations.

Our mixer is online and working well. We even upgraded our system to handle more traffic as we had bottle neck issues.

[Atobmixer]

We from Atobmixer family wishing everyone a speedy recovery from covid 19 and God Bless the world. Hope everything goes well for everyone and stay healthy and improve your immune system, eat healthy balanced diet and vitamin C and go get some sun to get your vitamin D and also work out and don't compromise your health even at this stressful times,

From my personal view is everyone or almost everyone gonna get covid so the deciding factor is your own immune

Stay strong and lots of hugs and love

Rebecca Tang

[Atobmixer]

We will not be adding ZEN coin in our mixing service as we are experiencing a little setback due to covid and restricted movements in China. We will keep you guys posted on the latest as time to time

Thank you for your support

[Tsyhan]

Hello, what about its mixer? it`s scam?