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[Atobmixer]

The working members of ATOBMIXER has decided to add a wallet in our mixer as part of expansion of our mixer in 2020
We also going to add 16 more servers in other countries in 2020 from our existing 8 servers in different countries to avoid service shutdown by FEDS.
This crucial decision was made over some high quality Godfather OG Marijuana.

behalf of ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

As suggested by TryNinja

we have added a warning line on our clearnet

 <p class="check-url-orange" >For hyper sensitive users, kindly use TOR link to ensure highest level of anonymity in mixing </p>

thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[TryNinja]

As suggested by TryNinja

we have added a warning line on our clearnet

 <p class="check-url-orange" >For hyper sensitive users, kindly use TOR link to ensure highest level of anonymity in mixing </p>

thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,

That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.

[Atobmixer]

As suggested by TryNinja

we have added a warning line on our clearnet

 <p class="check-url-orange" >For hyper sensitive users, kindly use TOR link to ensure highest level of anonymity in mixing </p>

thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,

That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.

Thats a valid consideration, will work on that, most likely will do a server side validation
Thanks for the suggestion

p/s : Today been a good mixing day... cant wait for the wallet integration 

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,

That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.

Thanks to TryNinja's very constructive suggestion, we have made the changes :

1. This warns user to check their address before press mix now button
<center><p style="color:#FF4500">Ensure the addresses are correct before clicking STAR MIXING</p></center>
Ensure the addresses are correct before clicking STAR MIXING

2. ensures user enters a address to continue mixing
<center><h3 style="color:#FF4500">ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue</h3></center>
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue

We made the changes on both clear and TOR site

Thank you for your suggestion and we have made improvements


ATOBMIXER ADMIN

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

[AdolfinWolf]

2. ensures user enters a address to continue mixing
<center><h3 style="color:#FF4500">ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue</h3></center>
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue

We made the changes on both clear and TOR site

Thank you for your suggestion and we have made improvements


ATOBMIXER ADMIN

***puff puff pass Thursday ***

....
Damn. this isn't "ensures user enters a adress" it's "ensures user enters anything at all".
It solved exactly 0.
If someone now pastes in the adress with 1 character missing, what happens? You'll say it's valid, and then... you keep the money they send again?

Really, this if(input = any) check doesn't inspire great confidence you actually mix anything at all. But i've said this already.

[Atobmixer]

Damn. this isn't "ensures user enters a adress" it's "ensures user enters anything at all".
It solved exactly 0.
If someone now pastes in the adress with 1 character missing, what happens? You'll say it's valid, and then... you keep the money they send again?

Really, this if(input = any) check doesn't inspire great confidence you actually mix anything at all. But i've said this already.

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[AdolfinWolf]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

[jasmine_crypto]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

[Atobmixer]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.

I have no idea if the allegations are true , but our mixer if functioning for public and if you have not tried, dont just assume with "What if" statements, if your coins go missing in our mixer, talk about it here, else i would just feel you are just paranoid and think too much and a USD 20 to test the system before making any statements is a big money for you... USD20 is peanuts to if you have 17.2 Million USD in your account, just saying

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[AdolfinWolf]

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

I have no words. Why did you decide to post this from an account you used to promote your own mixer in the past?

the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent??

What? 1-3% per transaction is an insane ROI...

We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax,

What the..? When someone loses money due to your site being a primitive sack of shit, you simply say, oh well, that's our money now? That's good to know.

so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money.

So you deliberately don't implement safeguarding measures such as adress checksum checks so that, if the user, by accident, sends a wrong withdrawal adress, you can keep the funds? Huh...

 So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

...






Heh. How mysterious: - Looks like we found the obvious sockpuppet. Sigh.

This site https://www.atobmixer.com AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.

""She"" made a bunch of stupid nonsensical statements. I fail to see how that equates being a genius, but i suspect you know something here that i don't.

I have no idea if the allegations are true , but our mixer if functioning for public and if you have not tried, dont just assume with "What if" statements, if your coins go missing in our mixer, talk about it here, else i would just feel you are just paranoid and think too much and a USD 20 to test the system before making any statements is a big money for you... USD20 is peanuts to if you have 17.2 Million USD in your account, just saying

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

[jasmine_crypto]

we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.

plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.

...
And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?

Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

SWIM

I have no words. Why did you decide to post this from an account you used to promote your own mixer in the past?

the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent??

What? 1-3% per transaction is an insane ROI...

We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax,

What the..? When someone loses money due to your site being a primitive sack of shit, you simply say, oh well, that's our money now? That's good to know.

so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money.

So you deliberately don't implement safeguarding measures such as adress checksum checks so that, if the user, by accident, sends a wrong withdrawal adress, you can keep the funds? Huh...

  So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins

...






Heh. How mysterious:

This site https://www.atobmixer.com AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....

[Atobmixer]

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts

the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[Atobmixer]

To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and  but had not actually tested the system themself

and to those paranoid people who knows how to only criticize (bet your life is not that great having this kind of attitude)
 
We have someone tested the services and our mixer is on the trusted list

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129376.0

⭐Name: AtoB Mixer
🔹Clearnet ccылкa: https://www.atobmixer.com/
🔹Tor ccылкa: atobmix5vwucluyj.onion
🔹Ccылкa нa Bitcointalk тeмy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207219.0
🔹Кoмиccия:  oт 1% дo 2.99% (+ кoмиccия ceти. Moжeт быть paзнoй)

Thumbs up for the Russians

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

[TryNinja]

Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts

the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Quoting for future reference. IMO, there is a very fine line between this and scamming. You don’t want to help your users or make sure they get your coins. You literally want to profit from people mistake’s. Most mixers do the opposite and try to help their users.

That must have been the stupidities thing I have ever read a mixer admin say. A integrity check literally costs nothing else to you and can be done in less than 20 minutes by someone with a basic coding knowledge. Literally just google what you gotta check and use it. There are tons of fully working examples everywhere.

I must say that I never really recommended people to NOT use a mixer, but yours will be the 2nd or 3rd. Why the heck should anyone use your mixer when YOU LITERALLY WANT TO PROFIT FROM “STUPIDITY” (honest mistakes)? FFS.

[LoyceV]

OP keeps creating new ANN-threads, trying to get rid of the negative posts. Unfortunately for him, Mods keep deleting them because it's against the forum rules.
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.

I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:

To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and  but had not actually tested the system themself

There's no reason to test a service that you don't trust. Even if they wouldn't steal a small amount, this post is what's expected when someone's building up to selective scamming. Like BITMIXCOIN.IO scam confirmed: 16+ Bitcoin stolen.

[Atobmixer]

Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....

Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts

the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND

ATOBMIXER ADMIN

Quoting for future reference. IMO, there is a very fine line between this and scamming. You don’t want to help your users or make sure they get your coins. You literally want to profit from people mistake’s. Most mixers you do the opposite and try to help their users.

That must have been the stupidities thing I have ever read a mixer admin say. A integrity check literally costs nothing else to you and can be done in less than 20 minutes by someone with a basic coding knowledge. Literally just google what you gotta check and use it. There are tons of fully working examples everywhere.

I must say that I never really recommended people to NOT use a mixer, but yours will be the 2nd or 3rd. Why the heck should anyone use your mixer when YOU LITERALLY WANT TO PROFIT FROM “STUPIDITY” (honest mistakes)? FFS.

I dont understand your claims, If you send bitcoin to a wrong address , even through a normal bitcoin transfer p2p , thats just stupidity. Its users responsibility to enter the right address

[Atobmixer]

OP keeps creating new ANN-threads, trying to get rid of the negative posts. Unfortunately for him, Mods keep deleting them because it's against the forum rules.
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.

I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:

To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and  but had not actually tested the system themself

There's no reason to test a service that you don't trust. Even if they wouldn't steal a small amount, this post is what's expected when someone's building up to selective scamming. Like BITMIXCOIN.IO scam confirmed: 16+ Bitcoin stolen.

Are you being a chipmixer bias marketing agents ?

   
Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
Today at 06:14:53 AM

we have collaborated with 37 websites "Top 10 mixers" ranked on google search and we  have ommited chipmixer from the list as they practice unmoral advertising strategies . The signature campaign AdolfinWolf and TryNinja just goes around making unjust remarks on other mixers without actually testing the services is a very bias marketing strategy thats tarnishes the good image of ChipMixer

We are taking actions against Chipmixer on a global level for all this bias agents unjust remarks on other services

[marlboroza]

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.

"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"

Leeme put that like this:

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.

[Atobmixer]

If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.

"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"

Leeme put that like this:

You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.

With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.

Another Chipmixer agent talking about stealing funds,

its actually simple, you enter the correct address and you get your funds mixed in a secured manner, if you enter a wrong address, we cant trackback your correct address. We are in the mixing business not in mind reading business , we cant read your mind if you put a wrong address and expect us to magically know your right address.

I dont understand your point here ... you are speaking on behalf of almost negligible amount of people who is dumb enough to put a wrong address and expect to get their funds ?

so you go to ebay and buy stuff and put a wrong address and you blame ebay for sending the item to the wrong address ?? be sensible
your argument is immature

ATOBMIXER ADMIN