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December 12, 2019, 12:56:52 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?


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December 12, 2019, 01:14:42 PM
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a fake project that made a lot of money in my version is ebtc, the token was distributed freely two years ago. the team was very active in the thread and the price kept moving up from day to day, it has a solid orders that could tank the price from the dump. when it was at its peak, the airdrop was worth around $1,000(I forgot about it, but it should be around that). after a few days, the price declined by 90% and it kept declined until dead. I do not know how many they were able to collect, but I am sure it should not be lower than a million.


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December 12, 2019, 01:30:50 PM
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a fake project that made a lot of money in my version is ebtc, the token was distributed freely two years ago. the team was very active in the thread and the price kept moving up from day to day, it has a solid orders that could tank the price from the dump. when it was at its peak, the airdrop was worth around $1,000(I forgot about it, but it should be around that). after a few days, the price declined by 90% and it kept declined until dead. I do not know how many they were able to collect, but I am sure it should not be lower than a million.



Yes, EBTC is a free coin distributed to Airdrop participants and I think when I got to know the first Airdop with an amazing income, the tokens did grow rapidly in their time but somehow these tokens could die if they didn't have any future goals so they really die?

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December 12, 2019, 01:37:50 PM
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a fake project that made a lot of money in my version is ebtc, the token was distributed freely two years ago. the team was very active in the thread and the price kept moving up from day to day, it has a solid orders that could tank the price from the dump. when it was at its peak, the airdrop was worth around $1,000(I forgot about it, but it should be around that). after a few days, the price declined by 90% and it kept declined until dead. I do not know how many they were able to collect, but I am sure it should not be lower than a million.



Yes, EBTC is a free coin distributed to Airdrop participants and I think when I got to know the first Airdop with an amazing income, the tokens did grow rapidly in their time but somehow these tokens could die if they didn't have any future goals so they really die?
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This project could die if the Dev will abandoned it when they get the profit they want and they will not get new traders to pump up their tokens that's why we need to be careful especially with those airdrop tokens implemented since they actually didn't use much money for advertising and other things that's why it's easy for those who handle the project to dump it once they are enough. And for OP actually it's really hard to put a opinion about the legit project since so far some of them produce a product but still goes nothing.

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December 12, 2019, 01:49:28 PM
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Projects that have their product ready or if the prototype is ready for me are not scam projects. Projects that do not fall under this category are a scam for me.

Another one is hyped project always stay out of them, they do nothing but bring misery into the life of investor later on. Some examples: Open Platform, Dfinity and I can quote more but these were the big one.

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December 12, 2019, 01:58:41 PM
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a fake project that made a lot of money in my version is ebtc, the token was distributed freely two years ago. the team was very active in the thread and the price kept moving up from day to day, it has a solid orders that could tank the price from the dump. when it was at its peak, the airdrop was worth around $1,000(I forgot about it, but it should be around that). after a few days, the price declined by 90% and it kept declined until dead. I do not know how many they were able to collect, but I am sure it should not be lower than a million.



Yes, EBTC is a free coin distributed to Airdrop participants and I think when I got to know the first Airdop with an amazing income, the tokens did grow rapidly in their time but somehow these tokens could die if they didn't have any future goals so they really die?
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This project could die if the Dev will abandoned it when they get the profit they want and they will not get new traders to pump up their tokens that's why we need to be careful especially with those airdrop tokens implemented since they actually didn't use much money for advertising and other things that's why it's easy for those who handle the project to dump it once they are enough. And for OP actually it's really hard to put a opinion about the legit project since so far some of them produce a product but still goes nothing.

And as if the EBTC coins are dead, dev has left this project. See the price of this token on the market has not moved at all, so it is true we can conclude that the token results from the airdrop will not last long and will become shitcoin with no price. Maybe there are still many people who hold EBTC and are trapped because of being left by dev.

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December 12, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



I think before investing in a project you could easily see a scam project if you study the project. Most of the time the comments about scam project are true and this kind of comments are not "this project is amazing and soon moon". If someone says that this project is a scam surely most of the time it was a scam we could easily trust good reputation users in this forum and easily ignore some that have bad reputation in the forum. Surely we could trust a legit company that we already know especially in projects like for example google but still, sometimes it is not the company but the one who handles the campaign or the project.

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December 12, 2019, 02:03:57 PM
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Projects that have potentials can die at any time if the teams are not active and its true that its same with fake projects as well, no project is scam until they actually turn scam in crypto world, either ways do not judge any coin, the least ones you expected to end badly can actually do better than those you are focusing on
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December 12, 2019, 02:07:54 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?
This kind of thread has been discussed many times.

Please, before you open a discussion you should check it first. There is no need many times to use 'serach' function on the right above and put what are you looking for.
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December 12, 2019, 02:18:07 PM
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a fake project that made a lot of money in my version is ebtc, the token was distributed freely two years ago. the team was very active in the thread and the price kept moving up from day to day, it has a solid orders that could tank the price from the dump. when it was at its peak, the airdrop was worth around $1,000(I forgot about it, but it should be around that). after a few days, the price declined by 90% and it kept declined until dead. I do not know how many they were able to collect, but I am sure it should not be lower than a million.


I agree with you, EBTC is a big project but it is all fake, only limited to looking for profits by utilizing airdrops and manipulating prices to such an extent. In the 2016-2017 era, eBTC was able to hit the market, many of the airdrop participants benefited from the high and popular eBTC at that time. And in my opinion eBTC is a pioneer for all airdrops until now, since the eBTC airdrop, from here many airdrops have sprung up and the beginning of the popularity of telegram in the use of bounties and airdrops until now. eBTC has been a success in my opinion, but it is unfortunate if this eBTC is a real and prolonged project of course this is a good thing but today eBTC has become a decoration for our wallet eth, until now I still keep 20 eBTC as memories. And fyi the eBTC website ebtc wp its still can access.

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December 12, 2019, 02:24:46 PM
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We are not here to maintain a good project or not a good project, because we are temporary followers of the project, which maintains the project is the team itself, if the team is able to maintain the project until their goals are achieved, then the project will be successful, if not, then the project will end up a scam.
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December 12, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
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Even so many, I'm not talking about project X is a scam. But it can be analyzed and researched. Actually what makes the project a scam / soft language of shitcoin, that is, most projects that are left by the team in a slow way, because their products are made and marketed to no interested ones, if the prospect of the project has a new solution technology, maybe in the future someone will adopt , making the project grow again. And as a saying that "a failed project does not mean a scam project" many assumptions of someone who has a low ROI project is said to be a scam, whereas if you look at it from a fundamental perspective it could be in the future grow and return.

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December 12, 2019, 02:37:32 PM
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I got scam coin after holding with long time, after receiving from bounty campaign I keep holding and trust much with project become higher price at the future but price is down, maybe next time when got coin project have listed on exchange market selling is better than holding, many scam project got problem after listing and owner looks not serious for get back with higher price.

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December 12, 2019, 02:41:48 PM
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In my opinion, if I get a scam project, then I will leave it. Scam projects should not be allowed to roam because it can make other people suffer losses especially with them making lucrative offers. therefore we better look for a good project even though the offer is not fantastic but can be profitable for us in the long run.
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December 12, 2019, 03:04:29 PM
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Good project is transparent at least for me. They are very open to the people's question and they have real identity. A scam project doesn't want to know who are the people working behind them and don't give the right information of the developers that works for team.
Transparency is important if it's about investing although some project are very anonymous before until now but they've proven to be legit because of their tenure.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 12, 2019, 03:16:24 PM
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There's a lot of factors to consider and not all projects that we know from the start still have no assurance if they will tend to scam us or not. Because there can be reasons for them to say or leave the project alone if they want to. A good project for me is a stable project and has its own fundamentally based right before it starts.
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December 12, 2019, 04:00:06 PM
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First, look at projects for a long term, not a short because it takes some time for good products to be ready. In addition, projects that multiply multiple times are essentially shitcoins. Because the project cannot gain great value without rhyme or reason. This requires a certain reason. It is not difficult to pump the price, essential is to maintain its value.
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December 12, 2019, 04:10:37 PM
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There are criterias of good project, in the others thread discussion already made. you can check in the other thread
I just wanna say something here, that project isnt always represented by the price. even in good project can be down price, vice versa
bcz this is bearish market, most of coins will be falling down at this time

 
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December 12, 2019, 04:46:00 PM
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its getting difficult to catch scam projects these days because scammers are also learning how not to get caught as well. telegram channels made these projects get away, they don't even have to respond on their thread here in the forum because they only reply on the channel whenever they want.

they find it easy to create tokens too, there are services like $50 for creating tokens and websites to ask money from users in the form of IEO to a scam exchange as well. they all conspire together. so better keep a watchful eyes in the scam accusation section.









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December 12, 2019, 05:16:01 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



In the middle of 2018, I experienced scammers from airdrop, but I tried to forget that, a few months ago when I was sharing with a friend, he was trapped in a scamm project, this is certainly unfortunate, when scammers have tried to suppress the amount, but scammers also hone their abilities. I don't know how long our worries about the scamm project will end, hopefully in 2020 they will not be there

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December 12, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
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probably this is the most difficult question for investors now because no one can now find out what will happen to any project. even good projects have problems and that is why they lose 90 percent of their price

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December 12, 2019, 10:15:50 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



If you check out gainers-losers at CMC, you will see mainly shitcoins in the first place. That does not mean they are good, as you know. On the contrary that is proof that they are scam. Now, when we compare this idea with what you said, I guess the situation has become more clear. The change in price does not always show its strength. You can pump or dump every price on the market as you like, depending on the amount required.
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December 12, 2019, 10:44:41 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?




Prices fall depending on market demand. If the market demand is good, the price of coins will increase. In this case, it really depends on the performance of a team of the project. If they really develop a project that brings consumers' dependence on the project, it will produce a good price-quality. Conversely, if the scammer team, of course, the price of coins will not increase, not even a release to exchange.
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Yes, EBTC is a free coin distributed to Airdrop participants and I think when I got to know the first Airdop with an amazing income, the tokens did grow rapidly in their time but somehow these tokens could die if they didn't have any future goals so they really die?

I also had a fantastic experience with my first EBTC airdrop, but now it's almost worthless. But the most horrendous in this forum is probably one of them is Project C
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December 13, 2019, 02:34:55 AM
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Scam to me, simply means fraudulent. A project is said to be fraudulent when the purpose behind its establishment is to rip the public or investors from their funds. This could be a short term or long term goal. Some projects are impatient and want to cash out as soon as possible while others would hang around for a while to build up trust before dumping the tokens on the holders.
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December 13, 2019, 03:14:00 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

I cannot give you a specific coin but I can say a thing or two about your other question. A scam project is a project that has a fake team, fake or copied whitepaper, fake or copied vision/objective, fake roadmap, or fake or copied design generally. A scam project could also be used to refer to those projects that raised money and leave after that. It could also refer to projects that do not honor words of agreement. A good project is of course the opposite of all those.

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December 13, 2019, 03:31:06 AM
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I can easily identify a scam project through theur whitepaper and also by reviewing the people behind the projects. Those two ways you can know if the project is sonething fishy or not. A good project have a characteristic of being realistic and also they have commitment. Do not join in a project that offering a high rewards in a shot span of time because it is not realistic and it can definitely a scam project. In order to gain profit you should first focusing on how you will protect it.
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December 13, 2019, 03:51:05 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



I think, but this is only for me, what is on my mind. Success or not from a new project is depends on how price after listed on market. If more than ICO maybe good project, then it is all up to what investor want. All of it they who take the risk, i mean we can out and get profit immediately when it listed in market and get more than ICO price. And bad project is when it can't get ICO or maybe more than ICO price in market. Because after dumped, really hard to pump the token again.

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December 13, 2019, 03:55:36 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

I cannot give you a specific coin but I can say a thing or two about your other question. A scam project is a project that has a fake team, fake or copied whitepaper, fake or copied vision/objective, fake roadmap, or fake or copied design generally. A scam project could also be used to refer to those projects that raised money and leave after that. It could also refer to projects that do not honor words of agreement. A good project is of course the opposite of all those.
Adding to that is they are completely copying concepts and gives some updates to existing project attracting investors that they are much better usages from another coin who already gained support from the public. Scam developers are not going to invest time working with their projects but focus with how they can convinced people to invest money and runaway after. There's no easy task finding this team but if you are concern with your money you will extend your research to avoid or lessen your chance being victimized.

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December 13, 2019, 04:05:56 AM
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I can easily identify a scam project through theur whitepaper and also by reviewing the people behind the projects. Those two ways you can know if the project is sonething fishy or not. A good project have a characteristic of being realistic and also they have commitment. Do not join in a project that offering a high rewards in a shot span of time because it is not realistic and it can definitely a scam project. In order to gain profit you should first focusing on how you will protect it.
It is not reliable to only see their whitepaper, even having a good platform might end up being a scam project. There are some ways to determine a scam and legit project. By doing research, you can at least increase your chance to avoid scam project and this forum has a lot of help by visiting scam accusation wherein scam projects or any related projects will be seen there.

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December 13, 2019, 04:23:32 AM
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Their project is built to make new innovations to be beneficial in the cryptocurrency industry world. But even real projects have a bad ROI as well not only fake projects because investors are not willing to hold their projects for long, exposed to FUD and many more. We must be clever to choose to invest whether hit and run start now because if too long will suffer tremendous loss.

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December 13, 2019, 09:27:21 AM
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Projects that have potentials can die at any time if the teams are not active and its true that its same with fake projects as well, no project is scam until they actually turn scam in crypto world, either ways do not judge any coin, the least ones you expected to end badly can actually do better than those you are focusing on
The team behind the project does have an important role to develop the project that was delivered and no matter how good the project if you have a bad team then over time I think the project will disappear. For me, projects that have failed because softcap has not been achieved and projects that cannot develop what they are carrying out are bad projects and are a waste of time.
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December 13, 2019, 11:50:25 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

I cannot give you a specific coin but I can say a thing or two about your other question. A scam project is a project that has a fake team, fake or copied whitepaper, fake or copied vision/objective, fake roadmap, or fake or copied design generally. A scam project could also be used to refer to those projects that raised money and leave after that. It could also refer to projects that do not honor words of agreement. A good project is of course the opposite of all those.
Adding to that is they are completely copying concepts and gives some updates to existing project attracting investors that they are much better usages from another coin who already gained support from the public. Scam developers are not going to invest time working with their projects but focus with how they can convinced people to invest money and runaway after. There's no easy task finding this team but if you are concern with your money you will extend your research to avoid or lessen your chance being victimized.
Aside from that they also keep on giving you promises that seems impossible and it is the reason why many of us get deceive by them. We tend to believe without even doing our own research, there are some projects these days that was made to take advantage of people so they can get the benefits they wanted that is why I always give myself some time to explore more things before making decision to avoid feeling remorse about it when it didn't turn out great. Some of you may think that it is quite laborious but research is a lot better because you can clearly see the different information regarding that project.

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December 13, 2019, 12:38:05 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



It should be evaluated according to the project itself. There are some projects that do not take a long time to recover, even if they lose value. There are also some that gain big value right after they are listed, but for the long term there is no reason to keep the price high. Therefore do not always consider price as an important indicator that determines the project is good or not. What is the project itself is always the main issue.
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



In the middle of 2018, I experienced scammers from airdrop, but I tried to forget that, a few months ago when I was sharing with a friend, he was trapped in a scamm project, this is certainly unfortunate, when scammers have tried to suppress the amount, but scammers also hone their abilities. I don't know how long our worries about the scamm project will end, hopefully in 2020 they will not be there
Nothing is going to safe you guys from scammers but yourselves, do not be too sure that there will be any form of regulation in 2020 and even if there is scammers will always find a way, it's better to learn how to use resources available to find good projects

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December 13, 2019, 01:08:23 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

I cannot give you a specific coin but I can say a thing or two about your other question. A scam project is a project that has a fake team, fake or copied whitepaper, fake or copied vision/objective, fake roadmap, or fake or copied design generally. A scam project could also be used to refer to those projects that raised money and leave after that. It could also refer to projects that do not honor words of agreement. A good project is of course the opposite of all those.
Adding to that is they are completely copying concepts and gives some updates to existing project attracting investors that they are much better usages from another coin who already gained support from the public. Scam developers are not going to invest time working with their projects but focus with how they can convinced people to invest money and runaway after. There's no easy task finding this team but if you are concern with your money you will extend your research to avoid or lessen your chance being victimized.
Aside from that they also keep on giving you promises that seems impossible and it is the reason why many of us get deceive by them. We tend to believe without even doing our own research, there are some projects these days that was made to take advantage of people so they can get the benefits they wanted that is why I always give myself some time to explore more things before making decision to avoid feeling remorse about it when it didn't turn out great. Some of you may think that it is quite laborious but research is a lot better because you can clearly see the different information regarding that project.
That is actually the common thing they do, giving promises which are impossible to happen especially in the bear market. Many can easily be deceived because of their high hopes. That is when they take their action and take advantage of the people.
It is quite right the way we give ourselves to explore and make our own decision, in that way, we can think and learn more about the project.



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December 13, 2019, 01:18:34 PM
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A good project is when a team is constantly working and has at least a beta version of their product. Otherwise, the roadmap is mostly empty promises. Here investments and labor are always intertwined and a clearly good project is when both indicators are positive.
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good projects are real work either in any part if done continuously and always consistent in the team ,you can see through the road map can always be carried out on time even before the specified time ,the original team in this case we are always fooled by fake accounts of famous people as for the answer is we must to find the authenticity of a team and see input from other people at ANN will also be very helpful

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It is difficult to distinguish which is the scam and legit project at the moment. Scammer is becoming smarter and more sophisticated, it is difficult to catch them. I have invested in several projects in 2019, they are very active and produce products that attract investors. But after the end of IEO they gradually disappeared and their project became dead. I have lost faith in new projects, most of them are scams and I will not waste time and money with them.

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December 13, 2019, 02:05:58 PM
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A coin can become a scam because of many factors, for example because the coin cannot survive because the market is in a prolonged bearish state and the coin becomes in demand and there is no demand so that it disappears from circulation. Cases like this have already happened too.
And one more thing that is most feared because there are coins that are really a scam or cheat with the aim to take investor money.

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December 13, 2019, 02:11:08 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?


Those who write about projects, that they will succeed with certainty, almost certainly write so because they have paid for it. Those who write that the project is a scam probably want to lower their price to buy cheaper.
There's no other way, but you have to do the project analysis yourself - check dev team, whitepaper and roadmap. Whether the project succeeds will depend mainly on developer experience and luck.

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December 13, 2019, 02:17:23 PM
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It is difficult to distinguish which is the scam and legit project at the moment. Scammer is becoming smarter and more sophisticated, it is difficult to catch them. I have invested in several projects in 2019, they are very active and produce products that attract investors. But after the end of IEO they gradually disappeared and their project became dead. I have lost faith in new projects, most of them are scams and I will not waste time and money with them.
investing in new projects currently is not recommended, it's better to wait for their coins to be listed on market, so you can determine whether it's good or bad, at least listed in a big market.
but if in IEO it's better to invest from early, especially IEO from binance. The market is clear so don't worry about your money.
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December 13, 2019, 02:39:16 PM
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I always used to say that nearly all projects are scams, but that's not really the case. Most projects are badly executed ideas or ideas that never had a chance of taking off to become a multi million project. These aren't scams.

Scams in my opinion are those that make false promises, lie about who they have working for them, fake partnerships, and so on. These are quite easy to spot and for that reason should be ignored, but people invest in them anyway.

It's all about the gains within crypto, regardless of how risky or scamy a project is.

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December 13, 2019, 02:55:47 PM
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Scam project are not good for us and for crypto community, We working promoting the project but in the end it will going to scam.
We all know they are always scam happen but we need to avoid it maybe we need time to read or search a bounty that would be probably pay us a bounty rewards. Ill think this coming year of 2020 we can find more good project that we need to participate.
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December 13, 2019, 02:56:14 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

Sometimes projects that are to good to be true are not real project, I'm tired of projects telling investors, that they are the new Bitcoin or they are the next big thing, of course people are on the look for the next big thing, who would want to be an early bird investors to a projects that has a potential to be in profit hundred of times, if a projects shows some sign of faking something or giving to many excuses when confronted, be sure to dig deep something is hidden here.
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



There's a lot of definition about scam, but these one is the most common thing that everyone's frequently encountered like a promise to"give a high return of investments in the short span of time, that was too good to be true, since in crypto investments we cant be sure what was the results in the future. that's why it means a big brewing scam tactics to lure investors to invest in the project.  
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Yes, EBTC is a free coin distributed to Airdrop participants and I think when I got to know the first Airdop with an amazing income, the tokens did grow rapidly in their time but somehow these tokens could die if they didn't have any future goals so they really die?
the dev left the community a year ago when they promised us they will list it on big exchanges and payment integration on some companies. I did not remember it clearly at what stage they were, but I am completely sure they were never intended to develop their project to aim their goal because all they did is shilling their project and made some good design to heat it.

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December 13, 2019, 03:46:43 PM
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Projects that have potentials can die at any time if the teams are not active and its true that its same with fake projects as well, no project is scam until they actually turn scam in crypto world, either ways do not judge any coin, the least ones you expected to end badly can actually do better than those you are focusing on
some of them are turning into nothing after they collected all the money from the investors at the end of token sale.
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December 13, 2019, 04:11:54 PM
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Yes, EBTC is a free coin distributed to Airdrop participants and I think when I got to know the first Airdop with an amazing income, the tokens did grow rapidly in their time but somehow these tokens could die if they didn't have any future goals so they really die?
the dev left the community a year ago when they promised us they will list it on big exchanges and payment integration on some companies. I did not remember it clearly at what stage they were, but I am completely sure they were never intended to develop their project to aim their goal because all they did is shilling their project and made some good design to heat it.
Developer become most thing what happen with their project scam or not, if developer want to make their coin become competitor on coin market cap maybe their coin have higher price although long term listed on exchange market, but if not serious with developer maybe just few weeks after coin listing on exchange market price will dump.

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December 13, 2019, 04:47:19 PM
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Honestly, it is very difficult to determine whether is a scam project and legitimate or good project because i have encountered and participated a lot of projects, and most of them are scams due to good promises that attracts me that turns out to be a lie, that is why you should avoid projects that are too good to be true and suspected team members. While good projects the best way to determined them is by asking other people, especially experts because even a project has a good whitepaper and website it could be also a scam, that is why asking for a help could do.
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December 13, 2019, 04:57:12 PM
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Honestly, it is very difficult to determine whether is a scam project and legitimate or good project because i have encountered and participated a lot of projects, and most of them are scams due to good promises that attracts me that turns out to be a lie, that is why you should avoid projects that are too good to be true and suspected team members. While good projects the best way to determined them is by asking other people, especially experts because even a project has a good whitepaper and website it could be also a scam, that is why asking for a help could do.
in making the selection of the current project is indeed difficult to distinguish, and for me as long as they provide a seduction with the benefits that are said then I will avoid the project because it is suspicious. the best way now to look for a lot of references and friends is to get lots of input information and also do your own research to get used to it

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December 13, 2019, 05:34:36 PM
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I am a little confused to understand your question, maybe you mean about a bad project turned out to be successful and vice versa? if so, I think the first thing depends on your own research and how much you believe in the project, but don't forget to research the entire project too, such as the developer & team background, concepts, products, road maps and project partners.


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December 13, 2019, 06:35:14 PM
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Scam project are not good for us and for crypto community, We working promoting the project but in the end it will going to scam.
We all know they are always scam happen but we need to avoid it maybe we need time to read or search a bounty that would be probably pay us a bounty rewards. Ill think this coming year of 2020 we can find more good project that we need to participate.
It's needed a lots of time and patience to work with your knowledge, identifying scams is now possible since there's a lots of scammy projects that
spread out inside the market, you need to take your time and not rushly engaged with anything without proper research. This venue of business are
prone of scammers so be wise to always recheck and analyze everything.
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December 13, 2019, 06:40:28 PM
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Good project is the one who really takes care of their investors and keep progressing with the project update and moving forward. Rest all are just scams. They really have short term views only.
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December 13, 2019, 06:52:20 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?
Are you trying to say that "a scam project for someone might not be a scam project for others?". Well, this is wrong actually. If any single person gets scammed, no matter how good they are, no matter how many people they "haven't scammed", scamming a single person means they are a scammer and must be avoided at all cost.
Scam project might have good price, because the price is being manipulated by the developers. You will see that their price eventually falls because the tokens get dumped by the devs.

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December 13, 2019, 07:13:22 PM
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Good project is the one who really takes care of their investors and keep progressing with the project update and moving forward. Rest all are just scams. They really have short term views only.
but if you think that a good project is a project that can keep investors who have funds then I think the project is not good in full, for me good projects are those that can provide benefits to the wider community not just profit in terms of money
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For me, what defines a good project is very simple... A good project for me is a project that delivers exactly everything that it promises in it's whitepaper, whitepapers are sometimes what attracts us to a project, because they tend to promise a lot of things but when it comes to actually implementing those things, this is where most projects show their true purpose, which is to collect as much funds as possible and do nothing in terms of development, but while developing, a good project should also keep a keep eye on it's token price as wella Nd ensure that investors don't regret holding their tokens.
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December 13, 2019, 08:26:57 PM
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Scam project will certainly die quickly if in current market conditions. we can see several new projects that register tokens on the exchange but within a few days the price has dropped by 80%. from some of these history investors or traders must have a genius analysis in trading do not be sure of the sweet words of developers if there is no evidence on the development of the project.

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December 13, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
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how is that possible ? people loves to donate thier money on un-geniune investments rather than a geniune one  ? wtf  . if a project is good then why only get small income or sometimes getting rekt . i guess they are only have a lack of budget to promote thier project really well  . you know these days there are now tons of ico's and its now hard to market an ico to stand out on the crowd if you wont make a really good efforts for promoting it but sometimes bad and scammy project do put a good effort so that they can get as much as profit  .
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December 13, 2019, 08:56:01 PM
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Users will shill on the project specially the ones who had invested to it. But wait til its token will be on exchange because after they dumped you will not see even their shadows in the thread to support the project.

There are lots of scam projects some are not in a hurry to do it. They list the project in the exchange but after some time, the team will sell all the tokens they have in their wallet and for get about the project.

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December 13, 2019, 08:58:57 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?




There are projects that failed to meet their goals but not all of them are scam. I only personally consider a project to be a scam if at the first glance, you can see that their goals are very unrealistic. Those sort of projects are created to fail. They are nothing but a way for the dev team accumulate and stole money from investors.

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December 13, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
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Scam project will certainly die quickly if in current market conditions. we can see several new projects that register tokens on the exchange but within a few days the price has dropped by 80%. from some of these history investors or traders must have a genius analysis in trading do not be sure of the sweet words of developers if there is no evidence on the development of the project.
You can obviously notice that the scam project is the project wherein you did your best supporting them, giving them your money and they will make you profitable in return but the plot twist is that they failed and just give back your money, sometimes not. While in a good project you can actually make money by earning your investment and making it twice the value or even tripled. For you to notice whether the project is good or bad you can actually check their whitepaper wherein the plans and targets of that particular project are already stated there, you can also visit their webpage/website.
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

For me it's simple. There are features a project just cannot have and each time you see it it's a strike. Some of them are:
Fake teams or team pictures
Big premine
Scamming people before the launch (like not paying for bounties or changing rules)
Mandatory KYC even for little things like bounties or airdrops
Devs lying about something being done while it is not

There's more but when you're in the space long enough you know what projects you should stay away from.
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?
Full of surprises right? that's the cryptocurrency world. Projects that look doubtful because the development team is being disguised doesn't mean they don't have potential, like Minter, at first I was hesitant but I decided to keep on joining and in fact giving a lot of profit. On the other hand, projects that look promising with a team of developers who appear to shine, cannot develop as expected, the price does not match expectations when listing. That is why don't expect too high or underestimate other projects, act halfway, support it if you agree and ignore it if you don't and don't criticize. Luck also plays a big role here.

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December 14, 2019, 02:34:14 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

I cannot give you a specific coin but I can say a thing or two about your other question. A scam project is a project that has a fake team, fake or copied whitepaper, fake or copied vision/objective, fake roadmap, or fake or copied design generally. A scam project could also be used to refer to those projects that raised money and leave after that. It could also refer to projects that do not honor words of agreement. A good project is of course the opposite of all those.
Adding to that is they are completely copying concepts and gives some updates to existing project attracting investors that they are much better usages from another coin who already gained support from the public. Scam developers are not going to invest time working with their projects but focus with how they can convinced people to invest money and runaway after. There's no easy task finding this team but if you are concern with your money you will extend your research to avoid or lessen your chance being victimized.

That is included in the copied whitepaper and objectives. There are so many of this kind of imitation projects nowadays. One of the reasons for this is that documents such as the design, objectives, economics, etc of a certain crypto project is open to the public. Other developers could easily have access to them and copy them with some changes to make it appear original. Another reason is probably the accessibility of codes. Codes are open also nowadays. Everything could also be accessed and copied from Github. Investors need to invest more time and research.

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December 14, 2019, 05:04:22 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?
Full of surprises right? that's the cryptocurrency world. Projects that look doubtful because the development team is being disguised doesn't mean they don't have potential, like Minter, at first I was hesitant but I decided to keep on joining and in fact giving a lot of profit. On the other hand, projects that look promising with a team of developers who appear to shine, cannot develop as expected, the price does not match expectations when listing. That is why don't expect too high or underestimate other projects, act halfway, support it if you agree and ignore it if you don't and don't criticize. Luck also plays a big role here.
"Luck" is the most appropriate keyword to reveal the many new projects that have arisen and cannot be analyzed with certainty. because what we predict is going well and maybe many investors have joined, but the results are not a few that are very disappointing, lost without any trace left behind alias lost from circulation. on the other hand that is considered not good can actually produce the best and run smoothly. so this is a crypto that is not possible.

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December 14, 2019, 06:20:18 AM
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Good Project i think, this project is have good reputation, always do their work same with their Whitepaper. Always fast response to their members.
And Bad Project i think the project who always delay of their work. Give bad reputation to their member, slow response to their members.
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If you go to website deadcoins.com you will see that there are many coins that are scam coins that ended up being just a way for the owners to take ICO and leave. So, I doubt that we can have a "favorite" scam coin, there are thousands of them and I think they all suck equally since they all scammed people. However the favorites are quite marginally different in peoples eyes depending on what you consider "altcoin".

For example, if we are allowed to pick ethereum then I am picking ethereum, it is second biggest coin and it has an insane value and utility to use so I feel like it will never die so I support it, however some people don't consider ethereum as altcoin anymore since it became so mainstream, thats why my new favorite is EOS which is going on ethereums steps following it.

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A good project is one whose team is committed to the achievement of the goals of the project and are consistently developing the project to meet with the technical required standards. Every good project should have a well composed team who are actively working for the promotion of the team and have a social face to relate with the community and give them a feeling of their presence.
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December 14, 2019, 07:31:22 AM
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A scam project is a project that has never released its tokens to the market, only plans and plans with high exchange rate crap. a successful project is a project that is able to melken tokens to the market on schedule, can be a little faster or late, even though the exchange rate is cheap, but in my opinion they are already successful because they have reached the final goal of the project.
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December 14, 2019, 09:36:06 AM
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A scam project is a project that has never released its tokens to the market, only plans and plans with high exchange rate crap. a successful project is a project that is able to melken tokens to the market on schedule, can be a little faster or late, even though the exchange rate is cheap, but in my opinion they are already successful because they have reached the final goal of the project.
I was also a victim of those scam project in my own case the token was released however the coin was never listed in any exchange since April 2018 after the ICO ended the admin or team kept on postponing listing everyday every efforts to convince the team to speed up listing of the token proved abortive the reasons for delay is beyond the reach of investors these are some the risk involved in investing in ICO.

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well, fake projects do not withdraw their coins into trade, they are minimized at the stage of raising capital. And if the project was completed, the coin began to be traded, but as a result, all the project assets disappeared - then this is not scam, but more failure and illiterate team work

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well, fake projects do not withdraw their coins into trade, they are minimized at the stage of raising capital. And if the project was completed, the coin began to be traded, but as a result, all the project assets disappeared - then this is not scam, but more failure and illiterate team work
My opinion with fake or scam project is not listed on exchange market because they have scam many investor, but for coin have lower price after listing is trusted and good site project because they are responsibility for listing their coin on exchange market although have lower price than ICO value but they keep with their promise for listing coin on exchange market.
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My opinion with fake or scam project is not listed on exchange market because they have scam many investor, but for coin have lower price after listing is trusted and good site project because they are responsibility for listing their coin on exchange market although have lower price than ICO value but they keep with their promise for listing coin on exchange market.
But there are some projects that i know about when listing on exchangers they are scam and gone. Like social media they are not active or deleted. If the list in the exchanger investor also wants to get profit from their investment, therefore they keep asking about its development.

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December 14, 2019, 02:06:27 PM
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It is very easy to identify the scam projects. If the promoters take all of your money and vanish suddenly, then you can be sure that the project is a scam. The catch here is that we'll come to know that it is a scam, only after we lose all of our hard earned money. It is much more difficult to spot good projects. You need to keep track of the project at regular intervals and need to make sure that the timelines are being honored.
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You can easily identify an obvious scam project and you can also identify the real project, for me, I am considering it as a scam if they are just a pump and dump coin, and with that be very careful as they are the ones (team) dumping it and not the investors, then just buying back for them to be able to tell the community that there is a buying pressure and hyping the community again and they are slow in the development of their project.
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everyone has a different opinion. when I look at telegrams, many people say that "this is a good project" but in my opinion, it is a pretty bad project.
however, my opinion of a good project is when their concept goes according to plan, and the team is very professional in covering up the shortcomings of the project, for example, binance. and a scam project is a project that contradicts that principle. that is the main point.


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everyone has a different opinion. when I look at telegrams, many people say that "this is a good project" but in my opinion, it is a pretty bad project.
however, my opinion of a good project is when their concept goes according to plan, and the team is very professional in covering up the shortcomings of the project, for example, binance. and a scam project is a project that contradicts that principle. that is the main point.
You should not depend on only one resource or few groups and people of telegrams. Go for the news and search about the project by your own. Any project that gets listed by famous exchanges can be given a try but others should be ignored. Binance is a huge name in the market; it is among the top three exchanges with users in millions. You can easily trust its digital coin and the projects that are supported by Binance.
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



Scam projects is when the team are have no any idea when the investors candidate asking about the projects related questions.
If the projects is well prepared and don't have any intention for scamming they must be capable to answer any question realted to projects. So i think this thing is a core thing of choosing which project to involve
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



Scam projects is when the team are have no any idea when the investors candidate asking about the projects related questions.
If the projects is well prepared and don't have any intention for scamming they must be capable to answer any question realted to projects. So i think this thing is a core thing of choosing which project to involve
Still remember with scam project investing during ICOs is TOKENOMY or TEN, I bought on ICOs time with higher price about $0.2 and now price have drop lower under $0.02. I can't trust why price very cheap with success reached hard cap with TEN ICO and now never serious for listing coin with bigger market and burning coin supply to make TEN have higher price above ICOs.

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December 22, 2019, 10:56:30 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?




There are projects that failed to meet their goals but not all of them are scam. I only personally consider a project to be a scam if at the first glance, you can see that their goals are very unrealistic. Those sort of projects are created to fail. They are nothing but a way for the dev team accumulate and stole money from investors.
But not all scam projects have unrealistic goals, scammers are smart people and always have ideas to be able to attract investors to invest in the project, some projects are difficult to judge or arguably some projects that are made sometimes have realistic and difficult goals for us to assess whether this project will really run according to what has been determined. So, I personally better invest now in the top coins than in new projects.

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A scam and a good project is a like, that is why it is difficult for us to determined a legitimate project nowadays that even we check the whitepapers and their website, we still ended up getting scammed that the team members didn't response when you try dm them. In my own opinion, to determine if it is a scam projects if they make promises that are too good to be true.
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December 29, 2019, 07:16:25 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

A project lead that just exit scammed with the money, or people who are just funding their luxury life and have no updates in github after the ico.
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



A fraudulent project a priori will not be able to do x. This is absurd.The market is very unpredictable due to its age.Therefore, it is difficult to predict anything. A lot of uncertainties.
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Almost or let us just say that all projects do really looks promising so determining a scam project from good projects is really difficult for me. Scam projects just like the good ones do really look promising at first glance which proves the phrase "looks can be deceiving". But for me, I do have some points to check out for determining a scam project from the good ones. For me, a scam project is that really attractive because it do offer a really large reward or pay back that seems to be impossible to achieve given a span of time. Good project for me maybe short or long run but the plan or the flow of work is relevant and well managed and the reward as well as the goal is suitable or appropriate to take place. In short the plan is realistic and timely to be useful for the mankind in which it will surely attract investors because the project is well executed meaning it will surely get into the path of success. That is what I am just up into checking if a project is a scam project or a good one.

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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



A fraudulent project a priori will not be able to do x. This is absurd.The market is very unpredictable due to its age.Therefore, it is difficult to predict anything. A lot of uncertainties.

That's why I always treat crypto project as a games of chance since actually it's hard to tell which is legit and which of them is not since especially by now there are so many supposed to be good turn shit. But before on year 2017 we can merely point out the project is good since almost all follow their roadmap and get listed on the exchange they projected.

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January 01, 2020, 11:30:26 AM
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For newbies, it is difficult to distinguish scams from real projects. This requires experience, the authenticity of the web page, the authenticity of project members, the feasibility of the white paper, etc. Differentiating these requires experience. Many people have experienced scams and been deceived. Gaining experience and accumulating experience to distinguish future scams is considered a tuition fee.

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January 04, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?




at the moment it is very difficult for us to get good projects because there are so many projects that are of poor quality. so it is difficult for us to distinguish projects that have quality and scam projects. but the best responses and arguments will continue to be shown by one of those who participated in the project even though the project eventually became a project scam.

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January 04, 2020, 09:03:29 PM
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I don't necessarily think that just because the demand for a coin goes down it should be rendered as a scam project.

What should be rendered as a scam is if there was a promise by the team in their whitepaper or roadmap that doesn't get fulfilled as time goes on, but instead the developers either deserting or abandoning the project after a period of time.

That should be what constitutes a scam, not just because you didn't make a profit off trading it.

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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



You are talking about one of the most insidious problems in the market, for many investors as long as they get profits then the project is not a scam and if they lose money then the project is indeed a scam but that is not my point of view.

To me a project is a scam when the developers have no intention of fulfilling their promises to their investors regardless of whether or not you gain money, and to me a project is legitimate when the developers do everything they can to reach the goals they set for themselves even when they fail.
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January 08, 2020, 03:51:26 AM
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Believe me that a scam project  run and produces xx will not last long, because it is a trap to attract new investors into the trap after getting what they want the project will become a complete garbage.
So avoid such projects and don't be easily influenced by the hype created.
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?




at the moment it is very difficult for us to get good projects because there are so many projects that are of poor quality. so it is difficult for us to distinguish projects that have quality and scam projects. but the best responses and arguments will continue to be shown by one of those who participated in the project even though the project eventually became a project scam.
that doesn't make sense and i can't even understand if what you have been saying is correlating with the context. It's so simple to define what is the scam project and what is a good project right now.
Anything related to the non sense offering just like daily return, project that runs away with the money and something else should be defined as scam project.
The project with good utility usage can be defined as trusted project or good project.
The definition for both have very large definition depends on the situation. 

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January 08, 2020, 04:26:36 AM
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Believe me that a scam project  run and produces xx will not last long, because it is a trap to attract new investors into the trap after getting what they want the project will become a complete garbage.
So avoid such projects and don't be easily influenced by the hype created.

That's true!

Anyway, for years that I've been here, most of the scam that I encountered were those who hype in the community and the price becomes 'pump and dump' scheme, they will dump for many time and once they have too much investors that thinking they can still raise the price more they will dump and will never buy back and will never get back the price to normal and run away!
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January 08, 2020, 04:56:56 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?



Scam projects is when the team are have no any idea when the investors candidate asking about the projects related questions.
If the projects is well prepared and don't have any intention for scamming they must be capable to answer any question realted to projects. So i think this thing is a core thing of choosing which project to involve
Still remember with scam project investing during ICOs is TOKENOMY or TEN, I bought on ICOs time with higher price about $0.2 and now price have drop lower under $0.02. I can't trust why price very cheap with success reached hard cap with TEN ICO and now never serious for listing coin with bigger market and burning coin supply to make TEN have higher price above ICOs.
Sorry for your loss, its really not a loss until you sell for 0.02$ when you bought at 0.2$, the best trick of buying new coins in bear market is never to buy at ICO price and wait till coin get listed on exchange, it will surely drop in price because of bear market

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January 08, 2020, 11:02:41 AM
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I don't remember the scam project that I joined, but I'm sure many of them scam projects in the past than a legit project. Some legit projects were listed in exchanges, but too bad some of the coins will slowly dying, maybe because of condition of the market or maybe lack of marketing. It is risky if you hold a new coin.

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I don't remember the scam project that I joined, but I'm sure many of them scam projects in the past than a legit project. Some legit projects were listed in exchanges, but too bad some of the coins will slowly dying, maybe because of condition of the market or maybe lack of marketing. It is risky if you hold a new coin.
the reason why so many scam project is rising its because they can easily scam using crypto investment. They will create a website then they use profile of other people to attract investors, fake team, plagriaze whitepaper and so on.

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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?


A project that are only making halfway and then will leave you behind, which is in my stand point a scam project which is pretty obvious. While, on the other hand a successful project is the one who completely achieve the objective plus the coin or the token itself has its own value and definitely can be sold in the market.
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January 08, 2020, 12:51:33 PM
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These are my basis if a project is a scam project
  • The team isn't transparent enough especially in their token sale
  • They are not answering the question of their investors in their channel/s
  • Fake whitepaper, bad reputation etc.

These are just some of the basis because I know that some users here have other basis whether a project is a scam or not. My basis if a project is good is just the opposite of what I shared on the top. I'm not investing on new projects right now so I don't have enough basis to share but these are just basic basis.

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We can't detect scam/ good project easily, need long journey and fail until have perfect description how to take good project and avoid the scam. I join many project and I believe 60% is scam but I never give up to keep trying and asking into senior member about how to detect scam project. As user we must find the real information about the project, second thing is if they never up date information or bad respond in social media I think you should leave it, they will gonna after get your money.

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Currently there are saying that; good projects have gone into extinction but the beautiful thing is that; there are good proportion of projects out there. A project without public team members is technically a scam project, so, avoid such. A project with a workable product will likely make a good project for its investors.

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We only know the project is good or scam after a long time of operation. In 2019 I saw a lot of well-evaluated and promising projects in the future, these projects have a lot of investment companies and their member list has many celebrities. But after a period of operation and listed in the exchange, the project has little interaction with the community and gradually disappeared from this market. I've lost a lot of money investing in new projects in the last 2 years and maybe it's time for us to stop
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January 08, 2020, 01:09:42 PM
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One thing people fail to understand is that price movements in the real sense doesn't necessarily tell if a project is good or bad, unless there is massive dump caused by team dumping their own tokens. One thing I consider before holding a coin for long term is team credibility and project development, once these two are very ok, then I'm in. I do trade on daily basis even with coins I consider not so cool, what's my business provided I make short term gains. A good project in essence is one with a team with great vision and action. They conceive good ideologies and put it in project development.
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January 08, 2020, 01:14:34 PM
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This is an interesting question, and it can be interpreted in many different ways. There are many projects, where the idea is really good. However, the team doesn't comply with the previously decided timelines and in the end the investors suffer losses. In other cases, both the project and the team is good, but the token gets destroyed upon the exchange listing, probably due to the negative market sentiment or due to some other reason.
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January 08, 2020, 02:02:14 PM
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Well, when you see a project with high Return of investment then know there is something not really right. Their first aim will be to attract investors with high or mouth watering bonus. Also sometimes you can never know the team behind the project so as to carry out their scam successfully. A good project should have a face and what it aims to solve.

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January 08, 2020, 02:10:09 PM
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Currently there are saying that; good projects have gone into extinction but the beautiful thing is that; there are good proportion of projects out there. A project without public team members is technically a scam project, so, avoid such. A project with a workable product will likely make a good project for its investors.

I haven't found such a project and have capital without an investor who makes the project journey very smoothly. But is the project still running until now?

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January 08, 2020, 02:13:22 PM
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This is an interesting question, and it can be interpreted in many different ways. There are many projects, where the idea is really good. However, the team doesn't comply with the previously decided timelines and in the end the investors suffer losses. In other cases, both the project and the team is good, but the token gets destroyed upon the exchange listing, probably due to the negative market sentiment or due to some other reason.
If their project is good, then definitely the price will not collapse when listed in the exchange. Projects that crash after listing are weak and don't have a good budget to keep their token prices from collapsing.  After a period of activity, I believe that the dev team will abandon the project and all investors. They will leave this market with the money they raised during the ICO and IEO stages. For me, the projects that collapsed after being listed in the exchange were scam projects and I never invested in them.
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January 08, 2020, 02:18:51 PM
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Under normal circumstances, scam items cannot be easily identified. At the beginning of the ICO crowdfunding, the project party was very active in publicity. When the ICO crowdfunding was over, the project party slowly disappeared.

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January 08, 2020, 02:31:02 PM
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One option is to invest in exchange tokens like ecxx and bnb.
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January 08, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
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Well, when you see a project with high Return of investment then know there is something not really right. Their first aim will be to attract investors with high or mouth watering bonus. Also sometimes you can never know the team behind the project so as to carry out their scam successfully. A good project should have a face and what it aims to solve.
if you see a project that offers a very high profit, then you just need to understand the terms of its life. You should understand whether it’s too late to invest there, and if you have already invested, you should understand when you need to exit such a project. As a rule, the lifetime of such projects is from 2 months until 8 months. depending on the scale of the project


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January 08, 2020, 03:11:27 PM
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A scam and a good project is a like, that is why it is difficult for us to determined a legitimate project nowadays that even we check the whitepapers and their website, we still ended up getting scammed that the team members didn't response when you try dm them. In my own opinion, to determine if it is a scam projects if they make promises that are too good to be true.
Most scam projects always give good promises to all of us which of course it aims to attract investors and for them may be a very good target is new investors where they will easily believe what is said about the project and they will easily decide to invest in it and sometimes we have to be more careful or at least ask the opinion of our closest friends about the project before making a decision and you might also be able to find out more about the project before investing.
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January 12, 2020, 03:30:52 AM
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Currently there are saying that; good projects have gone into extinction but the beautiful thing is that; there are good proportion of projects out there. A project without public team members is technically a scam project, so, avoid such. A project with a workable product will likely make a good project for its investors.
I disagree, there are very few good projects out there and it is not really difficult to understand why, Satoshi created the blockchain in order to solve a very specific problem and so far the best application of the blockchain is for the creation of a currency.

Since then many developers have tried to apply the blockchain to many other industries and I don't really feel like any of those projects have had any kind of success because they're trying to use a tool that is not really that good for what they want to do with it.
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January 12, 2020, 03:54:19 AM
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Legit or scam has nothing to do with price, I was with a projects which started as an airdrop, mooned and later the founder abandoned the project.

If the lead team is anonymous, you should have second thoughts about project. This is what I have figured.

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January 12, 2020, 04:24:38 AM
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Honestly it is hard to identify the scam projects because all we know that scammers are not an idiot. But for me scam project are having a very good offer but while the project is on going suddenly all of features and procedure while change. And a good project will be recognized by it's existence and number of participant that will have and continues growth.
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January 12, 2020, 05:21:26 AM
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Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?




for me the real project gives certainty to investors that the project they are running really exists for the price problem depending on the development of the project whether they want to hold prices because they can repurchase when the price of the token drops sharply that is where the real project plays an important role in dealing with dump prices
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January 12, 2020, 06:48:33 AM
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It's not about profit or loss. A legit project stays longer times and keeps giving money to its supporters but a scam coin pumps high in day 1, some people sell at high profit and some people buy for future profit but that coin goes for scam on day 2 and the price decreased by 97%! Kindly try to feel the difference!

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January 12, 2020, 07:30:39 AM
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Legit or scam has nothing to do with price, I was with a projects which started as an airdrop, mooned and later the founder abandoned the project.

If the lead team is anonymous, you should have second thoughts about the project. This is what I have figured.

Exactly. In 2017, there were many projects came through airdrop who had no ICO! people earned quick money but whoever bought those airdrop coin for future trade they got scam! Most of the airdrop has the fake team, they did scam and 98% of those projects and coins are dead now! I was a victim of Litecoin Gold, Ebitcoin, Rebellious and so on! But the good project in that time still stays in this 2020!

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January 12, 2020, 09:58:02 AM
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For me, any project that is built just to scroll inside itself money is a scam. Even if this project is a simple financial crypto bank with 1% of annual income, it’s all exactly an instrument that will burst after a certain amount of time.
I prefer to choose projects related to specific structures in real life, projects trying to improve and diversify our environment. Any project aimed at the idea and not for money is interesting to me.

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January 12, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
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It's not about profit or loss. A legit project stays longer times and keeps giving money to its supporters but a scam coin pumps high in day 1, some people sell at high profit and some people buy for future profit but that coin goes for scam on day 2 and the price decreased by 97%! Kindly try to feel the difference!

Yeah but there are some people that already recognized the project is a scam still wanna buy the project because they know they will have big profits from selling it when it's hype. People should be more strict with this kind of project, don't make the project become hype when you smell something weong with the project even the project is really promising
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January 12, 2020, 10:23:00 AM
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Honestly it is hard to identify the scam projects because all we know that scammers are not an idiot. But for me scam project are having a very good offer but while the project is on going suddenly all of features and procedure while change. And a good project will be recognized by it's existence and number of participant that will have and continues growth.
That's right, scammers are always smart at managing their projects, and when their projects are already a lot of interested, the rules are changed so that the project participants become their victims.
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January 21, 2020, 03:06:10 AM
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Honestly it is hard to identify the scam projects because all we know that scammers are not an idiot. But for me scam project are having a very good offer but while the project is on going suddenly all of features and procedure while change. And a good project will be recognized by it's existence and number of participant that will have and continues growth.
That is very common, many people think this only happen in bounty campaigns when the developers change the rules but this happens all the time, I see many projects with a road map but as soon as they begin the development of their project they begin to change the dates of when things will be ready and people just accept the delays but most of the time there are no delays because they are not really working on the project and they are just trying to find the best moment to disappear.
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