Have you seen Yobit's new signature design?

[JollyGood]

I have read this topic since the beginning and what we discuss is about Yobit's Investbox. Most of us agree that Investbox should not be advertised, and neither do I. I brought the old signature of Cryptotalk until a new signature was updated (current signature) and look what we have:


This guy leaves negative trust for anyone who is active in Yobit's campaign, no matter it's not the Investbox, even yahoo66278 is the same. I know that everyone is free to express their opinions, he does too, but giving a series of negative trust with anyone in Yobit campaign. Even just Cryptotalk and Airdrop. Is it an extreme action?

I think suchmoon left neutral feedback for many displaying the Yobit signature and others left red feeback. Each has their own view.

In the end if a user feels that promoting a scam automatically equates to red Trust because the promoter is a scammer too - then that view is accurate to a degree.

If a user feels that promoting a scam equates to neutral Trust because giving the benefit of the doubt maybe the promoter did not investigate for possible scam links before promoting - then that view is accurate to a degree too.

Other than leaving red trust for Yobit and just one Yobit signature promoter (because of his condescending conduct and deliberate misdirection not failure to justify why he was a die-hard Yobit promoter), I did not leave feedback for Yobit signature promoter.

In my view anybody promoting a scam are guilty of being a scam too simply by association but more important than that is the view I hold they are most probably more ignorant than anything else therefore I do not leave red trust for that reason alone. Had signature promoters investigated the facts fully then most would probably not participate in those scam campaigns.

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[dkbit98]

etherscan.io

I see that etherscan now accepted their x10 campaign.

Should we think before we give red trust, or now everyone using etherscan should receive red trust?  

Some users are giving selective red trust, and they also give green trust to their own alt accounts + some merit gifts....
Ridiculous double standards...

[DarkStar_]

etherscan.io

I see that etherscan now accepted their x10 campaign.

Should we think before we give red trust, or now everyone using etherscan should receive red trust?  

Some users are giving selective red trust, and they also give green trust to their own alt accounts + some merit gifts....
Ridiculous double standards...

If you believe that X10 is legitimate, go ahead and invest your life savings into X10 for that sweet 10% daily ROI. Pretty soon you'll be a millionaire and you won't have to rely on advertising totally legitimate 100% safe services to earn a few $.

Also, please expose those people giving green trust to their alts rather than complaining about it without any more info.

[dkbit98]

If you believe that X10 is legitimate, go ahead and invest your life savings into X10 for that sweet 10% daily ROI. Pretty soon you'll be a millionaire and you won't have to rely on advertising totally legitimate 100% safe services to earn a few $.

Are you still drunk from New Years Eve or what?!  

I never said that this is legit at all,
I simply posted what I saw today on etherscan.

Also, please expose those people giving green trust to their alts rather than complaining about it without any more info.

Those members are self-exposing every day, and fyi I have talked about it before.
Nobody cares.
Everyone is just making silly 'trust wars'  

[DarkStar_]

If you believe that X10 is legitimate, go ahead and invest your life savings into X10 for that sweet 10% daily ROI. Pretty soon you'll be a millionaire and you won't have to rely on advertising totally legitimate 100% safe services to earn a few $.

Are you still drunk from New Years Eve or what?!  

I never said that this is legit at all,
I simply posted what I saw today on etherscan.

I thought you were complaining about some people leaving those who promoted the X10 shady "investment" negative trust, no?

Etherscan's ad isn't as bad. They aren't promoting 10% ROI from InvestBox with X10 token, but rather the X10 token itself. It doesn't promise that you'll earn 10% daily; rather, it says that the token has "already made profit" which doesn't give a future outlook claim. My guess is that Yobit aimed for the 10% ROI claim originally, but Etherscan refused and had them reword it.

I see that etherscan now accepted their x10 campaign.

Should we think before we give red trust, or now everyone using etherscan should receive red trust?  

I don't think an ad on etherscan dictates whether something or not is legitimate. I'm sure people did think about the situation before leaving red trust. This thread complaining about it was made on December 23rd. All trust feedbacks (negative and neutral) that I've seen were left on the 24th or later after people fully understood the situation.

There's also a big difference between personally promoting 10% daily ROI, versus linking to one of the most popular Ethereum explorers that might happen to have some (slightly less) bad ads.

[eddie13]

Does X10 even have a blockchain? I think no.. Which makes it a bit ironic being advertised by a block explorer doesn't it?

[dkbit98]

Does X10 even have a blockchain? I think no.. Which makes it a bit ironic being advertised by a block explorer doesn't it?

I have no idea what X10 is, and I avoid anything related to Yobit.
All I can see is that they are they are trowing a lot of money everywhere in ads... as they probably desperately need new people

[Blitzboy]

Does X10 even have a blockchain? I think no.. Which makes it a bit ironic being advertised by a block explorer doesn't it?

You should understand one thing, no matter whether it has blockchain or not, we cannot interfere. The only thing we know here, is the difference in the way they advertise, no one will argue anything if it doesn't include the words "earn 10% daily". I think Etherscan will not intervene deeply in this matter, they just make sure that their ads are valid

[AdolfinWolf]

You should understand one thing,

Ok... I will try to understand "one thing".

no matter whether it has blockchain or not, we cannot interfere.

Huh? If something is so obviously a scam, why wouldn't we be able to point it out?

The only thing we know here, is the difference in the way they advertise, no one will argue anything if it doesn't include the words "earn 10% daily".

If this coin has no blockchain, and has the same magic words as the other IEO's they did (Moon, Uranix etc), they will probably suffer the same fate- that is = 1 sat after pumping & dumping it.

What are you trying to argue here anyway? That if they didn't use the "10% a day" phrase, everything would be alright? That no one would argue anything? I disagree. I don't think the 10% matters much anyway. It certainly isn’t necessarily  the decisive factor for me... The Moon tokens didn't include those phrases either, (look how those turned out) and so they're really not a requirement to call something a scam, and yes, yobit's IEO's are scams.

I think Etherscan will not intervene deeply in this matter, they just make sure that their ads are valid

They exactly don't, which is the problem.
(Although i would somewhat agree with darkstar, - up to a certain degree it's the user's responsibility, not that of etherscan, to check how "legit" a token is. If the token is as blandly advertised as it is- normally i wouldn't put much blame on the advertising party (etherscan) - but, in this case, anything coming from yobit is a big red flag in my book.)

It's not in their interest to make sure their ads are 101% legit, so as it is not in your interest to understand what exactly you are advertising, for which i'd like to refer you to a thread i made about Yobit earlier this year; here - > Topic: Yobit Scam Accusation megathread. "Normal" modus operandi or shady practices?  

[JollyGood]

Does X10 even have a blockchain? I think no.. Which makes it a bit ironic being advertised by a block explorer doesn't it?

It is complete deception on part of Yobit to deliberately promote a lie but sadly that is what is to be expected by them.

Does X10 even have a blockchain? I think no.. Which makes it a bit ironic being advertised by a block explorer doesn't it?

I have no idea what X10 is, and I avoid anything related to Yobit.
All I can see is that they are they are trowing a lot of money everywhere in ads... as they probably desperately need new people

Indeed they are spending lots of money of signature promotions which means at some point they will want to make returns to cover their payments.

First the forum was flooded by their cryptotalk signature in the mistaken belief and hope that users will sign up there and it might become some sort of competitor and/or counter balance to this forum, then they started a short lived x10 campaign which then was replaced with "$700 worth of YoDollars for free".

If newbies and gullible investors were taken out the equation, scams such as Yobit would shut down but sadly they keep advertising and promoting which in-turn will eventually bring in some investors who will be fleeced.

[stompix]

The only way this could be called legitimate is if you would consider only the number of those shittokens or whatever they are as an indicator.
So you invest 10 yoshits, I can pay you 100 by tomorrow cause I' the one printing them, and I can issue a decillion of them whenever I feel like.

But if you invest 100$ and after one year of 10% a day gains you end up with a million token worth 2 cents , it's a scam by all standards.

So, from 26 satoshi when this whole bs started now the marvelous x10 token is at 7 losing 75% of its value.
Who could have seen this coming......

Like all pump and dump or ponzi schemes, the more profitable they claim to be the faster they go down, here it took two weeks for this drop, in another month we're probably at 1 satoshi with no buy orders just like other coins promoted by yobit ended.

And to think there were people that actually defended this ....thing...

[JollyGood]

The only way this could be called legitimate is if you would consider only the number of those shittokens or whatever they are as an indicator.
So you invest 10 yoshits, I can pay you 100 by tomorrow cause I' the one printing them, and I can issue a decillion of them whenever I feel like.

But if you invest 100$ and after one year of 10% a day gains you end up with a million token worth 2 cents , it's a scam by all standards.

So, from 26 satoshi when this whole bs started now the marvelous x10 token is at 7 losing 75% of its value.
Who could have seen this coming......

Like all pump and dump or ponzi schemes, the more profitable they claim to be the faster they go down, here it took two weeks for this drop, in another month we're probably at 1 satoshi with no buy orders just like other coins promoted by yobit ended.

And to think there were people that actually defended this ....thing...

What surprises me is there are people still showing the banners even after the negativity surrounding Yobit in general.

To read posts from users defending the scam by saying all investments are a risk (and sometimes even showing screenshots of alleged profits) in order to justify Yobit in general and the x10 specifically - has been a new low for their already low standards.

Yobit are attracting gullible investors, after they sign up at Yobit they are bombarded with various campaigns and investment schemes. Why would Yobit steal their funds when they can simply say the investment in any IEO or investbox failed so that way they can keep running as a legitimate business.

This ridiculous Terms and Conditions page shows nothing that can identify the Yobit scammers so when it comes for users wanting to take legal action, they hide behind anonymity: https://yobit.net/en/rules/

[Lucius]

First the forum was flooded by their cryptotalk signature in the mistaken belief and hope that users will sign up there and it might become some sort of competitor and/or counter balance to this forum, then they started a short lived x10 campaign which then was replaced with "$700 worth of YoDollars for free".

We all know more and less what lies behind YoBit, or that forum that is promoted here - but they are just doing what forum rules allow them. So I don't see how it is logical to blame only them for this happening in the forum, great responsibility is also placed on those who set these rules of the game. In the end, scam is not moderated on this forum and everyone should use common sense before clicking on any link.

Still how to explain that to newbies who only see free and $700 in the signature of Senior, Hero and Legendary members who flood almost every part of the forum. I bet most signature managers would not accept 90% of them in any signature campaign, but some think this was ideal way to get them a chance, and it is no secret that forum is getting more traffic with so many accounts wake up in the last few months.

What surprises me is there are people still showing the banners even after the negativity surrounding Yobit in general.

Don't be surprised by the fact that people ignore negativity, most of them are not even aware of it, to others, this is the only chance to make money on this forum. I have no doubt that they will defend this privilege until the last drop of spam blood.

[Blitzboy]

Not sure what to say here, not to explain. To be honest, I understand and know what Yobit did. I do not object to your opinion, when I started participating in this campaign, I didn't know Yobit's ugliness, but when they deliberately changed the X10 signature, I understood what I was working for, but I couldn't stop at that time.

Don't be surprised by the fact that people ignore negativity, most of them are not even aware of it, to others, this is the only chance to make money on this forum. I have no doubt that they will defend this privilege until the last drop of spam blood.

It couldn't be more accurate, guy. Except you think everyone is spam.

Not a promise or an atonement, but as my economy stabilizes, I will leave their campaign. It could be a week or two at the most, I have thought about leaving this campaign many times but there are no open positions in other campaigns, that's why I'm still staying here for a while.

[Lucius]

It couldn't be more accurate, guy. Except you think everyone is spam.

A little better read what I wrote so you might realize that I didn't write anywhere that all participants in this campaign are spammers. What I say that 90% of participants would not be accepted into any other serious signature campaign, which means that at least 10% of participants in this campaign are not spammers. But this does not justify anyone who knowingly promotes something that they know is bad and will cause financial loss to someone else.

Not a promise or an atonement, but as my economy stabilizes, I will leave their campaign. It could be a week or two at the most, I have thought about leaving this campaign many times but there are no open positions in other campaigns, that's why I'm still staying here for a while.

I'm not here to judge, everyone is building their reputation in the forum and in real life. Difficult situations force people to do bad things, sometimes there is simply no choice.

[marlboroza]

This is very good point.

Not sure what to say here, not to explain. To be honest, I understand and know what Yobit did. I do not object to your opinion, when I started participating in this campaign, I didn't know Yobit's ugliness, but when they deliberately changed the X10 signature, I understood what I was working for, but I couldn't stop at that time.
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It couldn't be more accurate, guy. Except you think everyone is spam.

Not a promise or an atonement, but as my economy stabilizes, I will leave their campaign. It could be a week or two at the most, I have thought about leaving this campaign many times but there are no open positions in other campaigns, that's why I'm still staying here for a while.

Interesting. Archived for future reference http://archive.is/wip/4h6mo.

So you realized what you are working for but you just want that extra 1$ no matter what you promote, right? And what do you mean when you say "there isn't any more space in other signature campaigns"? Sure there is, your alt account is accepted in signature campaign you tried to cheat applying again with alt account just a few days ago, right? And your other alt account is in chipmixer's campaign, right?
(insert wife/father/mother/friend/neighbor excuse)

[blurryeyed]

This guy leaves negative trust for anyone who is active in Yobit's campaign, no matter it's not the Investbox, even yahoo66278 is the same. I know that everyone is free to express their opinions, he does too, but giving a series of negative trust with anyone in Yobit campaign. Even just Cryptotalk and Airdrop. Is it an extreme action?

Nope, it's a normal reaction.

Thanks for posting the feedback though, the more forum members who read it the better IMHO. Scam promoting accounts are the scourge of this forum & deserve all the neg feedback they get.

[Blitzboy]

This is very good point.

I just said why Etherscan accepted it

And what do you mean when you say "there isn't any more space in other signature campaigns"? Sure there is, your alt account is accepted in signature campaign you tried to cheat applying again with alt account just a few days ago, right? And your other alt account is in chipmixer's campaign, right?
(insert wife/father/mother/friend/neighbor excuse)

I really don't understand what you're saying, I don't  know who that account is and where it came from. I am contacting Yahoo62278 about this issue, it is definitely a misunderstanding, I can provide any evidence to prove it. LOL I wish I had a legendary alt account and some positive trust. I don't know why it happened but I swear this is a misunderstanding. One fine day I woke up and find that I was living with the negative trust for a guy that I didn't know.

[ChuckBuck]

Thanks for posting the feedback though, the more forum members who read it the better IMHO. Scam promoting accounts are the scourge of this forum & deserve all the neg feedback they get.

What do you think of my current signature? I was accepted by Yahoo62278 into Luckybit's campaign and left Yobit  From now on I am comfortable on this forum, no longer worrying about complaints when carrying advertisements of Yobit. Everything is okay if I do well 

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Now we have a unique story to watch, I believe there must be some reason for Yahoo62278 to make a decision. I have just checked your profile and LOL  no reference link.

[stompix]

I'm bad at trading, I'm bad at guessing the price and making predictions
That's why every time I say about a shitcoin known for pumps and dumps that is going to drop like a stone I'm also afraid that just as I am posting the damn coin will be pumped again and people will start pointing fingers...
So, after pointing the 75% drop I was sure it will take a few days and they will pump it gain and some trolls will come in the open and start shouting that I was wrong and how much they've gained with their 16$ invested in x10.

So, from 26 satoshi when this whole bs started now the marvelous x10 token is at 7 losing 75% of its value.
Who could have seen this coming......

But, today is a bright day, no trolls or shills anywhere
X10 / BTC Last: 0.00000003

Out of pure curiosity, I looked at the investment panel for the other 10% a day coins and there she was,

LIZA   10%   Daily   

Oh, liza...

From 13k dogetoshi in December to 115 now!!! Yes, a 99% drop!!!!!