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January 03, 2020, 04:07:17 PM |
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Please edit the title we have no boxer named Garica it should be Garcia, this is the second crack of Garcia in that weight category but he is putting too much on what he can, he is not Pacquiao with good speed and hard punch, he is a technically a good boxer, but with a very experienced Vargas, I don't think he has a chance of beating him, he will overwhelm by Vargas on this fight.
Garica or Garcia, I think the op will change that sooner as he notice this thread with most comments on spelling. Now, let's discuss about Garcia's capabilities in comparison to Vargas, and just like what happened with pacman during his fights with so many top boxers. He was prejudiced with several analyst that he won't able to make it, but fortunately it was a reversal scenario Manny Pacquiao did it to winning by knock out. Same with Garcia and Vargas fight, we don't know yet what's the future game so let's see what they've got in the middle of their fight on the ring. It's good to see another fellow kababayan will have a good exposure fighting a much well known boxer, experienced wise Vargas have that edge while with aggressiveness to prove something Garcia might bring something good within this fight, not bad to spare small money to show support to this fighter and hopefully he will bring good outcome.
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January 03, 2020, 04:11:36 PM Last edit: January 03, 2020, 05:44:07 PM by ReiMomo |
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Vargas could only score a majority decision draw over the likes of Thomas Dulorme and Adrien Broner—two distinctly B+ class fighters. There's no way he's going to be able to handle Mikey Garcia, a guy who only lost once to the much bigger Errol Spence Jr by UD.
Let's be realistic here, Vargas is going to get whomped. I don't care if he's 5 inches taller, that's not going to matter much when Mikey is breaking down his body.
With that said, I'm not expecting a knockout. Vargas has been in there with some big punchers in the past and has stayed standing. Mikey isn't the hugest puncher, but he can definitely bang.
I predict this will go to UD in favor of Mikey, with around a 25% chance for a late knockout.
That's a good prediction, some are predicting Vargas others, Garcia, both fighters are capable to beat any fighter, I go for Garcia here reminds me of Mosley small but a very technical fighter with speed and has a good counter, this has the making of a good fight and I don't think it will be lopsided just like what we've seen in some of the past fights. As you can see, from Mikey Garcia's record, it is a big factor to look on because of the number of fights he won. That's an strong evidence that he can beat anyone who he fought. Vargas is not enough to beat a 4 times champion. I also watched some fights of Garcia and his opponent really suffer from strong punches after the game. The height is also a factor, although Vargas is taller, Garcia is shorter, we all know that the smaller the quicker. Overall, Vargas has a great advantage against his opponent Garcia, IMO. I will go with Vargas no matter what happened not just because he is a good fighter also he has the strength to defend his belt. But this fight is unpredictable and there is a high chance also Vargas were defeat by Garcia.
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January 03, 2020, 04:15:28 PM |
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Please edit the title we have no boxer named Garica it should be Garcia, this is the second crack of Garcia in that weight category but he is putting too much on what he can, he is not Pacquiao with good speed and hard punch, he is a technically a good boxer, but with a very experienced Vargas, I don't think he has a chance of beating him, he will overwhelm by Vargas on this fight.
Garica or Garcia, I think the op will change that sooner as he notice this thread with most comments on spelling. Now, let's discuss about Garcia's capabilities in comparison to Vargas, and just like what happened with pacman during his fights with so many top boxers. He was prejudiced with several analyst that he won't able to make it, but fortunately it was a reversal scenario Manny Pacquiao did it to winning by knock out. Same with Garcia and Vargas fight, we don't know yet what's the future game so let's see what they've got in the middle of their fight on the ring. Its been mentioned on earlier post so its no need for you to speak it up once again about spelling errors and it is understandable that this was just a typo. For those people who said that Vargas doesnt have a chance then i cant still conclude even though he isnt really that even when it comes to statistics but come to think that this is already on different weight class which i do see that he do have the advantage.
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January 03, 2020, 04:36:41 PM |
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Overall, Vargas has a great advantage against his opponent Garcia, IMO
^ No, you are wrong. Mikey Garcia has an advantage here compared to Vargas. In all aspects that we compare, it seems Garcia's is the best among these two fighters and I will go and place my bet with Garcia. I show a comparison of these two fighters below and you can analyze who is the best fighters and probably win this match. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FW8dplXa.jpg&t=665&c=fcmboHgyeg06xQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2pOrZQj.jpg&t=665&c=tAYNAWJTwtpfMg)
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January 03, 2020, 04:52:13 PM |
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Prior to what had happened in the world of boxing, I will like to predict in favor if Mikey G because he has out performed in many fight compared to Jessie V. Practically speaking, experience if consider will give a double edge to Mikey G, but the ring is a place where anything can happen to anyone on the ring. Jessie V can prove himself in this case because he's also one of my favorite. My bet will go for the best; as I await the surprise from the boxing ring.
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January 04, 2020, 10:28:53 AM |
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I give props to Mikey Garcia, it looks like he is going to campaign in this division. I'm looking at Mikey winning with a decision here. Probably his goal is to win against Vargas and then chase the money fight which is Manny Pacquiao. His first fight in this division was against the consensus #1 in the division so obviously it was a very difficult fight for him. But fighting a B-side fighter in Vargas, I think his chances are good.
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January 04, 2020, 12:46:37 PM |
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I give props to Mikey Garcia, it looks like he is going to campaign in this division. I'm looking at Mikey winning with a decision here. Probably his goal is to win against Vargas and then chase the money fight which is Manny Pacquiao. His first fight in this division was against the consensus #1 in the division so obviously it was a very difficult fight for him. But fighting a B-side fighter in Vargas, I think his chances are good.
A good chances is there at every opportunity, that only depends with the initiator who's the boxer himself. Neither Vargar nor Garcia would chases the money fight, what's very important in their career was hard work behind every rewards. Even how difficult it is to fight for good, the winner takes with him the honor not just form himself but also for his countrymen.
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January 04, 2020, 06:43:33 PM |
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So this mean that Mikey Garcia is out for the contention of fighting Manny at least for now and the rumor might be true that the Pacman will be fighting Roberto "The Ghost" Guererro this May.
Yeah, Mikey is out of the lottery for now. Though Vargas is the bigger fighter here but i would favor Garcia in this fight for his speed. Experience wise, Vargas has the edge, having fought Manny and Bradley is a feather on his cap though he was on the wrong end. Vargas lack the speed which for me is the vital factor for winning a fight.
Not sure if Garcia can carry his speed here. But he has fought Spence, probably he already knows the power in this division and he can take it. Vargas lacks speed which Mikey can take advantage of. So it's possible that this fight will be similar to Bradley fight in which Vargas lost.
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January 05, 2020, 05:39:37 AM |
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This fight is going to be explosive, but I will be favouring Jessie Vargas here. Jessie Vargas has fought Manny Pacquiao And Tim Bradley so he has the experience and the tools to beat Garcia. And this is the second fight that 'Mikey' at 147 lbs, he hasn't tested this weight class. So Vargas by UD. We will just have to wait what the odds are going to be.
Detail about the two matches and you can watch them on skysports. It would be an great event and Mikey Garcia will be mine favorite. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FR5YywHm.png&t=665&c=LUh58GTKdOlGvA)
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January 05, 2020, 05:42:56 AM |
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@virasog... that's all I need to book this day to watch the game, I have this channel so I'll watch this one.
This would happen by next month so I have time to prepare for my bet on this fight.
Constantly checking on my sportsbook but line is still not available.
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January 05, 2020, 08:10:54 AM |
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@virasog... that's all I need to book this day to watch the game, I have this channel so I'll watch this one.
This would happen by next month so I have time to prepare for my bet on this fight.
Constantly checking on my sportsbook but line is still not available.
Yes, you can also mark your calendar so that you do not miss this match. What do you mean by " Line is Not Available" . Did you mean that the sportsbook does not have a bet for this match ?
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January 05, 2020, 08:55:59 AM |
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If this fight happens in 2019 this has a good potential to become a fight of the year, both fighters are proven Mexican all-out fighter, I'm betting on Garcia he is a very technical fighter with good timing on his punch, I see him winning by a split decision here, but I have doubt that he will be good in the welterweight division, that division is loaded with talented boxers, like Spence and Pacquiao.
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Ok, so by the looks of the comments here, others are favouring Vargas while other half is with the Mikey Garcia bandwagon. Lol. But I love the discussions, in means that it is going to be a good fight, maybe like the Donaire vs Inoue fight, very very exciting. I just checked Sportsbet.io, there's no betting line yet because we still have a full two months to go. But that is ok, at least we can prepare our betting money as early as today because I'm sure, with the number of boxing fans here, it will be interesting what will be the odds and the ML with it opens. @virasog - thanks for the detail. What can you say about the undercard? JC Martinez vs Jay Harris? https://www.secondsout.com/news/jay-harris-out-to-shock-the-world-and-julio-cesar-martinez-2959709
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January 05, 2020, 10:48:28 PM |
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I give props to Mikey Garcia, it looks like he is going to campaign in this division. I'm looking at Mikey winning with a decision here. Probably his goal is to win against Vargas and then chase the money fight which is Manny Pacquiao. His first fight in this division was against the consensus #1 in the division so obviously it was a very difficult fight for him. But fighting a B-side fighter in Vargas, I think his chances are good.
A good chances is there at every opportunity, that only depends with the initiator who's the boxer himself. Neither Vargar nor Garcia would chases the money fight, what's very important in their career was hard work behind every rewards. Even how difficult it is to fight for good, the winner takes with him the honor not just form himself but also for his countrymen. What do you mean? Boxing is a business so obviously, every fighter dreams of being a champion and soon money will come. And I doubt that they do it just for their country, they fight because it's a job, and they are paid thousands or even millions of dollar. Anyways, I still think that Mikey can show us if he really belong in this division and fight the best out there.
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January 06, 2020, 12:26:15 AM |
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I believe Mikey Garcia can take Vargas, even Spence had a hard time knocking out Garcia, Garcia is a more skilled more hard puncher than the two, it will end in a split decision for Garcia as both of them can take a punch and good defensive fighters. Both fighters will respect each other in the ring and will not try to go for slugfest.
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January 06, 2020, 06:56:47 AM |
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I believe Mikey Garcia can take Vargas, even Spence had a hard time knocking out Garcia, Garcia is a more skilled more hard puncher than the two, it will end in a split decision for Garcia as both of them can take a punch and good defensive fighters. Both fighters will respect each other in the ring and will not try to go for slugfest.
We can't really say if Mikey is the harder puncher here because this is not his best weight class. He was outclassed by Spence when he first came to the 147 division. I remember Spence saying that he wanted to show his boxing skills when he fought Garcia so perhaps that's is the reason why he can't/didn't knock out Mikey. Did you just contradict yourself? I'm lost here, they are going to respect each other in the ring? there's no such thing when two fighters are inside the ring. They are there to hurt and try to knock out each other out.
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January 06, 2020, 03:16:06 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAQ5jLGB.jpg&t=665&c=aCNBRcvuFx4UXg) Still more than a month to go for this exciting fight.
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January 06, 2020, 10:50:49 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F3ld7zk.jpg&t=665&c=RgKSyeBu4in1gA) Boxing records update for these two great american boxers. Both are from USA. Omg, height and reach are extrmely favor on Jessie Vargas but the records with 39-1-0 is favor om Mikey Garcia, much experienced. But still, this is gonna be a exciting match, with height and reach advantage versus on experienced advantage and age also.
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January 06, 2020, 11:26:43 PM |
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@virasog... that's all I need to book this day to watch the game, I have this channel so I'll watch this one.
This would happen by next month so I have time to prepare for my bet on this fight.
Constantly checking on my sportsbook but line is still not available.
Yes, you can also mark your calendar so that you do not miss this match. What do you mean by " Line is Not Available" . Did you mean that the sportsbook does not have a bet for this match ? Yeah, I mean the line in the sportsbook is still not available, I just checked again, but still no line, it's a different Garcia that popped up, it's from a tennis game. lol... I am just curious because fury vs Wilder 2 line was already up last year.
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January 07, 2020, 01:08:04 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F3ld7zk.jpg&t=665&c=RgKSyeBu4in1gA) Boxing records update for these two great american boxers. Both are from USA. Omg, height and reach are extrmely favor on Jessie Vargas but the records with 39-1-0 is favor om Mikey Garcia, much experienced. But still, this is gonna be a exciting match, with height and reach advantage versus on experienced advantage and age also. Mikey Garcia wants to conquer new territories, like what other great champions have done, but welterweight is talent-laden he knows that when he was beaten by Spence, on his one of interviews he mentioned he is targetting Pacquiao, because of the three welterweight champions, he think he has a good chance with Pacquiao, and Vargas will be his stepping stone to call out Pacquiao, this is my theory.
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