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January 06, 2020, 11:39:09 PM
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https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters

What are your thoughts?

Incase you weren't paying attention....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

Join the discussion over at https://twetch.app

In my opinion it does not even matter that CSW is Satoshi because of the innovation on Bitcoin SV.

Because Craig Wright doesn't matter one bit in a PERMISSIONLESS OPEN FINANCE SYSTEM


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Bitcoin SV (BSV) has returned to Bitcoin's original design with a hard fork called Genesis, expected to release on 4th February 2020. ... It restores Bitcoin's original protocol unlike Bitcoin Core for BTC and the Bitcoin ABC for BCH who “changed Satoshi's design and refused to massively scale”.


In addition to Genesis, Teranode is what most people should watch out for

CoinGeek announces it will partner with nChain, the blockchain research & development firm, on the Teranode project to create an enterprise-class full node implementation for Bitcoin (BCH-SV). nChain announced Teranode at the May 2018 CoinGeek conference in Hong Kong, and CoinGeek will now provide additional funding and business support for the project. Teranode takes the original Satoshi Vision to the next level. It will enable the true Bitcoin, now represented by BCH-SV (Bitcoin SV), to massively scale to terabyte (1 million megabyte) size blocks, 7 million transactions per second, and global enterprise usage.

CoinGeek and nChain believe terabyte-size blocks are viable and necessary for the Bitcoin BCH-SV blockchain to become the global public ledger of the future. A single terabyte block (added every 10 minutes) can contain about 4 billion Bitcoin transactions, and provide capacity of 7 million transactions per second. The scale of a network with 1 TB blocks would be immense, and enable BCH to power not just monetary transactions but token, smart contract, enterprise application, and machine-to-machine data transactions of many types.

Teranode is the next evolution of Bitcoin SV, the new full node implementation for Bitcoin Cash (BCH). Bitcoin SV is currently competing with Bitcoin ABC in a miners hash vote to become the ruleset for BCH. Developed by nChain at CoinGeek Mining's request and owned by the Antigua-based bComm Association, Bitcoin SV seeks to fulfil the original Satoshi Vision for Bitcoin. It will restore the original Bitcoin protocol, keep it stable and allow it to massively scale. This path is critical to give major enterprises confidence to build their projects on top of the Bitcoin BCH-SV blockchain. Having Teranode planned for the future is another reason why miners and businesses should now choose Bitcoin SV.

Teranode is unique because it will not be a monolithic 'one size fits all' implementation. Instead, the project separates four core functions into a modular microservices architecture approach - making a separate Business (RPC) Layer, Network (P2P) Layer, Process Layer and Storage Layer. This microservices architecture allows a business to customize for its needs, and provides several advantages:

    Each component may have multiple implementations that can be easily swapped out for a particular company and its industry needs.
    Components can be written using different computing languages, tools and hardware that are best suited to their particular purpose, rather than having to make a single choice for the entire node.
    It enables massive on-chain scaling capability. A network aware interface like zeroMQ means components can, but do not necessarily need to run on the same machines.  As scaling requirements grow, the components can be further broken down and clusterized to match any foreseeable load requirement.

In addition, the Teranode project will seek to solve a technical issue that arises with a massively scaled Bitcoin network with TB size blocks: how to optimize the unspent transaction output (UTXO) database maintained by nodes to prevent double-spending of Bitcoins. Determining the correct amount of coins associated with each output is an essential set in the validation of a new block. With massive transaction volume possible in 1TB blocks, the UTXO database would also grow immensely. Teranode will seek to deliver a microservice API and software implementations that can support the throughput required for gigabyte (1000 MB) and then TB size blocks.


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- Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin
- Scales
- Apps can be built on top of it
- Videos and images, on chain forever
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Twetch describes itself as a decentralized social network that lets you own your data & earn money for your content. DM their twitter account for access to private beta & sign up at http://twetch.com

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Why build on Bitcoin SV?

Bitcoin SV is Bitcoin with the original protocol. It can be used for money, but also as a development platform.

Creative developers and entrepreneurs are taking advantage of Bitcoin SV's unique capabilities to build amazing businesses and products. They're choosing BSV because:

    A stable protocol decentralizes power and enables builders to focus on long-term goals, like creating better customer experiences
    Large blocks allow Bitcoin to scale to handle the world's traffic
    Microtransactions enable entirely new classes of business models

Bitcoin SV is ready for what you want to build—the only limit is your imagination.


I think in hindsight BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.
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January 07, 2020, 12:40:08 AM
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Look at the team behind it and you'll know why it doesn't matter if "Unbounded Capital" believes in CSW Roll Eyes
They lack the experience, know-how and integrity to be able to come to any qualified conclusion whatsoever.
Why they believe that it could be beneficial for themselves to "vouch" for faketoshi, I don't know.

Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
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January 07, 2020, 01:25:47 AM
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Look at the team behind it and you'll know why it doesn't matter if "Unbounded Capital" believes in CSW Roll Eyes
They lack the experience, know-how and integrity to be able to come to any qualified conclusion whatsoever.
Why they believe that it could be beneficial for themselves to "vouch" for faketoshi, I don't know.

Exactly ...

Just listen to these folks opinions on immutable content on the blockchain ...

How Will Enterprises Integrate Blockchain? - NODE Unbounded Series #4
- https://youtu.be/Yk1kxs6h5zk?t=1122

Now go here ...

Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062.msg52369283#msg52369283

 Roll Eyes

You don't want to 'think', you want to 'know'. Signed message or GTFO ...

Re: Project Anastasia: Bitcoiners Against Identity Theft [re: Craig Wright scam]
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215128.msg53538541#msg53538541

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January 07, 2020, 01:33:34 AM
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Satoshi is still a mystery to this day, when bitcoin became popular suddenly the crypto world was in an uproar by someone claiming to be the inventor of bitcoin, who else if not Craig Wright, but unfortunately he could not fully prove his confession, I myself am not sure if he is Satoshi.
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January 07, 2020, 01:38:09 AM
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Satoshi is still a mystery to this day, when bitcoin became popular suddenly the crypto world was in an uproar by someone claiming to be the inventor of bitcoin, who else if not Craig Wright, but unfortunately he could not fully prove his confession, I myself am not sure if he is Satoshi.

Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi.

Look at all this comprehensive research into his lies ...

The #faketoshi fraud timeline ...
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/mylegacykit.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/jimmy007forsure.html

Satoshi ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0

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January 07, 2020, 01:51:57 AM
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I agree CSW is NOT Satoshi..

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January 07, 2020, 02:27:27 AM
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CSW has been caught in so many lies and forgeries that I can't even believe he has any credibility left at all to convince anyone he's Satoshi. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
I guess this does not matter as he does not need to fool everyone but because cryptocurrencies are the fastest growing space on the planet right now, he will temporarily fool enough who are new to the space and get insane returns.
Not only can Craig not sign or send from early blocks or deliver any proofs, he also cannot prove that he controls email accounts used by Satoshi or even the original login here on this forum.
The guy is a fraud and its been proven many times over.
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One does not have to read any more article to know that Craig Wright is a troll trying to earn some beautiful and respectable place in the crypto community. And in doing all his circus, he has effectively lost all little chances he has got. It will only be a matter of time before his BSV will also lost all support coming from the people.

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January 07, 2020, 02:40:42 AM
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There is nothing in this article that really says Craig Wright is Satoshi. The idea that Craig Wright is a computer security expert does not really proves that he is Satoshi. This article do not tell us anything people in the crypto space hasn't heard or seen before. Its just a waste of time reading it.
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January 07, 2020, 02:43:38 AM
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Quote from: unboundedcapital
Keys to one’s house are useful in that they create a system where the owner of the house can use the keys to limit the ease of access to trusted parties. However, if someone stole the keys, they would not own the house. If someone simply holds the keys to bitcoins, that alone should not give them legal ownership.

The analogy given is so stupid... I wonder if the author even understands that Bitcoin is supposed to be a currency, not a "digital house"... smdh... You don't go buying stuff in the real world for a stake in your property. You use "cash" for it... Can't believe I just wasted 15 minutes reading this crap! The other argument of CSW having all the "related" knowledge/Credentials isn't a great point either... So You are trying to tell me that CSW is the only person in the world who fills the shoes of 'possible" satoshi...? If so how did you reach that conclusion?

Quote from: unboundedcapital
These include Craig’s warning that he will be moving upwards of 800,000 BTC, the January 1st 2020 maturation of a trust containing over 1 million BTC mined by CSW in 2009-2011,

We are still waiting and we are already a week in...
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January 07, 2020, 03:24:26 AM
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i read the article and even read the transcripts of some of the stuff linked.

craig did not have tax returns listed in 2008-2009 related to bitcoin which then came into question with the ATO... the ATO were interested in the 2013+ crap of craig creating shell companies and trusts with no collateral.

the transcripts funnily enough say that craig moved funds out of Dave kleiman and wright tulip trust and put coins into new trusts.. yet the satoshi stash has not moved.

craig later claims the tulip trust didnt contain satoshi stash(09-10) but a later stash of random coins(11-13)... but later coin analysts revealed the public keys craig claimed as his were actually coins of multiple people including mtgox

kind of funny really CSW says he has the 2009-2010 stash. years later 'i have a stash of 2011-2013 stash'... but even the new stash is proved not his... many laughs were made


so knowing craigs tulip trust did not hold the coins of 2009-2010. shows that craig didnt have access to the true satoshi stash..
thus not satoshi

and then faking ownership by listing publicly available public keys as his .. fraud basically. proves he is a fraudster.

the ATO still want their tax grants back. hense why craig is hiding in UK and not going to return to australia


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January 07, 2020, 03:39:33 AM
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CSW has been caught in so many lies and forgeries that I can't even believe he has any credibility left at all to convince anyone he's Satoshi. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
I guess this does not matter as he does not need to fool everyone but because cryptocurrencies are the fastest growing space on the planet right now, he will temporarily fool enough who are new to the space and get insane returns.
Not only can Craig not sign or send from early blocks or deliver any proofs, he also cannot prove that he controls email accounts used by Satoshi or even the original login here on this forum.
The guy is a fraud and its been proven many times over.
It's the reason why we don't have to believe and trust someone like him because he's a deceiver, he's manipulating every situation to appear that he's right. What can you expect on someone who claim himself as someone else but is not capable on showing evidences to assure us that it's legit and he is the person behind that pseudonym? he's just trying to take advantage of the attention he's getting to get the benefits that he wanted. Well he ruins his own reputation. You will just feel remorse at the end if you choose to believe him because his statements are completely nonsense and it is much better if we just focus on much more important things.

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Unfortunately, you are on your own on this one.

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January 07, 2020, 04:20:47 AM
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Just one question. What happened to the bonded courier of the Tulip Trust with the keys of the loads of bitcoin as Craig claimed? What happened to his claimed doomsday of bitcoin?

If someone stil thinks CSW is satoshi, it's his/her own thought and we can't do anything about it! Cheers!

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Just one question. What happened to the bonded courier of the Tulip Trust with the keys of the loads of bitcoin as Craig claimed? What happened to his claimed doomsday of bitcoin?

in 2013 he told 3 businesses he moved coins into new shell companies and new trusts and used that as collateral for 3 companies to pay him some investment.
so not only scamming the ATO(aussi tax office) with tulip he then rescammed other businesses with the so called collateral migration.
(no coins actually moved though(hint: fake migration))


then it became common knowledge he didnt have keys to the 2009-10 stash so tried to reinvent documents that said he owned other coins from later dates to try keeping ATO and the companies at a arms distance.
that too fell flat due to people recognising some of the addresses as not being craigs as they belonged to others(mtgox for instance). now craig teamed up with ira. to make a frenemy (friends pretending to be enemies) debate over who owns this supposed collateral just to keep the supposed collateral 'locked up' so he can claim he has no access to it due to legal proceedings. ..
.. basically his poor excuse to avoid saying he aint got the coins and never had them. by continually saying he isnt allowed to touch them for numourous reasons..


the reasons big investors are trying to keep the deception under wraps and try to say craig is satoshi. because they want craig to generate more funds to pay back original investors just long enough so they can exit before it all comes crashing down
by the way bsv market price is pretty much break even mining cost. so he isnt really making profit to make new funds to repay old investors. so i presume he is opening up new investment firms and selling patents to make money(ponzi style)

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January 07, 2020, 07:22:22 AM
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I myself am not sure if he is Satoshi.
He's not.

He don't have proof to show as you mentioned and many times this topic has been discussed. Just spare that man, don't even think that you are not sure if he's satoshi. No one knows who satoshi is and even him.

What happened to his claimed doomsday of bitcoin?
We will probably see his tweet soon and admits it was a joke and asks for an apology to the public.  Roll Eyes

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January 07, 2020, 08:02:09 AM
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Satoshi is still a mystery to this day. I don't believe Craig Wright, he needs to prove his confession better. Or we will call him "Faketoshi".
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January 07, 2020, 09:38:36 AM
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Why is it stilla big deal this Faketoshi has been proved for so many times so why would you even debate if he is the real or not?
It is clear that Craig is just pushing his Bitcoin SV and believe that it is the real Bitcoin.
Why would you even consider him as Satoshi if he himself calls a clone the true Bitcoin?

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There is nothing in this article that really says Craig Wright is Satoshi. The idea that Craig Wright is a computer security expert does not really proves that he is Satoshi. This article do not tell us anything people in the crypto space hasn't heard or seen before. Its just a waste of time reading it.

Based on the thinking of this group, then I am now wondering why are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto because they too are computer experts, can code well and maybe also has that taste for lying just like Craig Wright. Of the many faketoshis, however, it is CW which is the most popular and the most successful one, and may add the most brazen one. He will surely go down and will have a reserved place in the history of Bitcoin even as an afterthought.
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January 07, 2020, 11:33:12 AM
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Why is it stilla big deal this Faketoshi has been proved for so many times so why would you even debate if he is the real or not?
It is clear that Craig is just pushing his Bitcoin SV and believe that it is the real Bitcoin.
Why would you even consider him as Satoshi if he himself calls a clone the true Bitcoin?
The reason for that is to give confusion to all of us. I don't know the reason but there is nothing states in this article that can prove that CW is the real one. It only states that he is an expert when it comes to computer security.
More like claiming to be satoshi just to get his project to be known and get more investors, that's how he markets his product.

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