Why We Think Craig Wright is Satoshi and Why That Matters

[emortal7]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters

What are your thoughts?

Incase you weren't paying attention....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

Join the discussion over at https://twetch.app

In my opinion it does not even matter that CSW is Satoshi because of the innovation on Bitcoin SV.

Because Craig Wright doesn't matter one bit in a PERMISSIONLESS OPEN FINANCE SYSTEM

Bitcoin SV (BSV) has returned to Bitcoin's original design with a hard fork called Genesis, expected to release on 4th February 2020. ... It restores Bitcoin's original protocol unlike Bitcoin Core for BTC and the Bitcoin ABC for BCH who “changed Satoshi's design and refused to massively scale”.


In addition to Genesis, Teranode is what most people should watch out for

CoinGeek announces it will partner with nChain, the blockchain research & development firm, on the Teranode project to create an enterprise-class full node implementation for Bitcoin (BCH-SV). nChain announced Teranode at the May 2018 CoinGeek conference in Hong Kong, and CoinGeek will now provide additional funding and business support for the project. Teranode takes the original Satoshi Vision to the next level. It will enable the true Bitcoin, now represented by BCH-SV (Bitcoin SV), to massively scale to terabyte (1 million megabyte) size blocks, 7 million transactions per second, and global enterprise usage.

CoinGeek and nChain believe terabyte-size blocks are viable and necessary for the Bitcoin BCH-SV blockchain to become the global public ledger of the future. A single terabyte block (added every 10 minutes) can contain about 4 billion Bitcoin transactions, and provide capacity of 7 million transactions per second. The scale of a network with 1 TB blocks would be immense, and enable BCH to power not just monetary transactions but token, smart contract, enterprise application, and machine-to-machine data transactions of many types.

Teranode is the next evolution of Bitcoin SV, the new full node implementation for Bitcoin Cash (BCH). Bitcoin SV is currently competing with Bitcoin ABC in a miners hash vote to become the ruleset for BCH. Developed by nChain at CoinGeek Mining's request and owned by the Antigua-based bComm Association, Bitcoin SV seeks to fulfil the original Satoshi Vision for Bitcoin. It will restore the original Bitcoin protocol, keep it stable and allow it to massively scale. This path is critical to give major enterprises confidence to build their projects on top of the Bitcoin BCH-SV blockchain. Having Teranode planned for the future is another reason why miners and businesses should now choose Bitcoin SV.

Teranode is unique because it will not be a monolithic 'one size fits all' implementation. Instead, the project separates four core functions into a modular microservices architecture approach - making a separate Business (RPC) Layer, Network (P2P) Layer, Process Layer and Storage Layer. This microservices architecture allows a business to customize for its needs, and provides several advantages:

    Each component may have multiple implementations that can be easily swapped out for a particular company and its industry needs.
    Components can be written using different computing languages, tools and hardware that are best suited to their particular purpose, rather than having to make a single choice for the entire node.
    It enables massive on-chain scaling capability. A network aware interface like zeroMQ means components can, but do not necessarily need to run on the same machines.  As scaling requirements grow, the components can be further broken down and clusterized to match any foreseeable load requirement.

In addition, the Teranode project will seek to solve a technical issue that arises with a massively scaled Bitcoin network with TB size blocks: how to optimize the unspent transaction output (UTXO) database maintained by nodes to prevent double-spending of Bitcoins. Determining the correct amount of coins associated with each output is an essential set in the validation of a new block. With massive transaction volume possible in 1TB blocks, the UTXO database would also grow immensely. Teranode will seek to deliver a microservice API and software implementations that can support the throughput required for gigabyte (1000 MB) and then TB size blocks.

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Reasons to be bullish about BitcoinSV

$BSV
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments
- Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin
- Scales
- Apps can be built on top of it
- Videos and images, on chain forever
- Actually utilized
- Works within law

https://www.bsvdevs.com/

An article of Favorite Apps on the BSV Chain that work NOW and TODAY: https://bryandaugherty.net/my-favorite-metanet-applications-tools-and-ways-to-earn-use-bitcoin/

https://twetch.app is an example of on-chain scaling at $BSV. Not on $BTC.  Imagine an ad free environment in Apps. The power of pre-payments also shifts to the buyer instead of the vendor simultaneously lowering costs and improving the content. Twetch App is approaching 10,000 users.

Twetch describes itself as a decentralized social network that lets you own your data & earn money for your content. DM their twitter account for access to private beta & sign up at http://twetch.com

https://twitter.com/twetchapp

UptimeSV is Distributed, crowdsourced network intelligence. The first network intelligence service to collect real, verifiable user data and pay nodes for doing so, in realtime.

https://uptimesv.com/

Tokenized is the easiest and safest way to issue, manage and trade security and utility tokens on the Bitcoin SV network.

 Money Button is a wallet that grants you access to the BSV blockchain of the bitcoin network. It is completely non-custodial, so you are in charge of your keys, coins and financial sovereignty! Money Button works wonderfully as a peer-to-peer payments tool with a simple, functional interface, and a very easy-to-learn interface: Enter an address and slide to pay. Simple. Human-readable addresses and handles!

https://www.moneybutton.com

Build your City on Chain!
https://cityonchain.com/

An example of low fees on BSV:
PS how crazy is this:  
$10 between 200 people, fee of approx 3c (at 1sat/byte)
391 outputs.
Nuts. Just crazy,
And.... it is going to get WAYYY cheaper.
https://twitter.com/riverish333/status/1220824688366059523
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPE9lJYW4AI8A2O?format=jpg&name=large


Why build on Bitcoin SV?

Bitcoin SV is Bitcoin with the original protocol. It can be used for money, but also as a development platform.

Creative developers and entrepreneurs are taking advantage of Bitcoin SV's unique capabilities to build amazing businesses and products. They're choosing BSV because:

    A stable protocol decentralizes power and enables builders to focus on long-term goals, like creating better customer experiences
    Large blocks allow Bitcoin to scale to handle the world's traffic
    Microtransactions enable entirely new classes of business models

Bitcoin SV is ready for what you want to build—the only limit is your imagination.


I think in hindsight BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.

[qwk]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters

What are your thoughts?

Look at the team behind it and you'll know why it doesn't matter if "Unbounded Capital" believes in CSW
They lack the experience, know-how and integrity to be able to come to any qualified conclusion whatsoever.
Why they believe that it could be beneficial for themselves to "vouch" for faketoshi, I don't know.

[BitcoinFX]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters

What are your thoughts?

Look at the team behind it and you'll know why it doesn't matter if "Unbounded Capital" believes in CSW
They lack the experience, know-how and integrity to be able to come to any qualified conclusion whatsoever.
Why they believe that it could be beneficial for themselves to "vouch" for faketoshi, I don't know.

Exactly ...

Just listen to these folks opinions on immutable content on the blockchain ...

How Will Enterprises Integrate Blockchain? - NODE Unbounded Series #4
- https://youtu.be/Yk1kxs6h5zk?t=1122

Now go here ...

Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062.msg52369283#msg52369283

 

You don't want to 'think', you want to 'know'. Signed message or GTFO ...

Re: Project Anastasia: Bitcoiners Against Identity Theft [re: Craig Wright scam]
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215128.msg53538541#msg53538541

[MURONDI]

Satoshi is still a mystery to this day, when bitcoin became popular suddenly the crypto world was in an uproar by someone claiming to be the inventor of bitcoin, who else if not Craig Wright, but unfortunately he could not fully prove his confession, I myself am not sure if he is Satoshi.

[BitcoinFX]

Satoshi is still a mystery to this day, when bitcoin became popular suddenly the crypto world was in an uproar by someone claiming to be the inventor of bitcoin, who else if not Craig Wright, but unfortunately he could not fully prove his confession, I myself am not sure if he is Satoshi.

Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi.

Look at all this comprehensive research into his lies ...

The #faketoshi fraud timeline ...
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/mylegacykit.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/jimmy007forsure.html

Satoshi ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

I agree CSW is NOT Satoshi..

10. You shall not give false testimony (he did)

[Icygreen]

CSW has been caught in so many lies and forgeries that I can't even believe he has any credibility left at all to convince anyone he's Satoshi.
I guess this does not matter as he does not need to fool everyone but because cryptocurrencies are the fastest growing space on the planet right now, he will temporarily fool enough who are new to the space and get insane returns.
Not only can Craig not sign or send from early blocks or deliver any proofs, he also cannot prove that he controls email accounts used by Satoshi or even the original login here on this forum.
The guy is a fraud and its been proven many times over.

[Getmon]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

One does not have to read any more article to know that Craig Wright is a troll trying to earn some beautiful and respectable place in the crypto community. And in doing all his circus, he has effectively lost all little chances he has got. It will only be a matter of time before his BSV will also lost all support coming from the people.

[Youghoor]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

There is nothing in this article that really says Craig Wright is Satoshi. The idea that Craig Wright is a computer security expert does not really proves that he is Satoshi. This article do not tell us anything people in the crypto space hasn't heard or seen before. Its just a waste of time reading it.

[Thekool1s]

Keys to one’s house are useful in that they create a system where the owner of the house can use the keys to limit the ease of access to trusted parties. However, if someone stole the keys, they would not own the house. If someone simply holds the keys to bitcoins, that alone should not give them legal ownership.

The analogy given is so stupid... I wonder if the author even understands that Bitcoin is supposed to be a currency, not a "digital house"... smdh... You don't go buying stuff in the real world for a stake in your property. You use "cash" for it... Can't believe I just wasted 15 minutes reading this crap! The other argument of CSW having all the "related" knowledge/Credentials isn't a great point either... So You are trying to tell me that CSW is the only person in the world who fills the shoes of 'possible" satoshi...? If so how did you reach that conclusion?

These include Craig’s warning that he will be moving upwards of 800,000 BTC, the January 1st 2020 maturation of a trust containing over 1 million BTC mined by CSW in 2009-2011,

We are still waiting and we are already a week in...

[franky1]

i read the article and even read the transcripts of some of the stuff linked.

craig did not have tax returns listed in 2008-2009 related to bitcoin which then came into question with the ATO... the ATO were interested in the 2013+ crap of craig creating shell companies and trusts with no collateral.

the transcripts funnily enough say that craig moved funds out of Dave kleiman and wright tulip trust and put coins into new trusts.. yet the satoshi stash has not moved.

craig later claims the tulip trust didnt contain satoshi stash(09-10) but a later stash of random coins(11-13)... but later coin analysts revealed the public keys craig claimed as his were actually coins of multiple people including mtgox

kind of funny really CSW says he has the 2009-2010 stash. years later 'i have a stash of 2011-2013 stash'... but even the new stash is proved not his... many laughs were made


so knowing craigs tulip trust did not hold the coins of 2009-2010. shows that craig didnt have access to the true satoshi stash..
thus not satoshi

and then faking ownership by listing publicly available public keys as his .. fraud basically. proves he is a fraudster.

the ATO still want their tax grants back. hense why craig is hiding in UK and not going to return to australia

[Baby Dragon]

CSW has been caught in so many lies and forgeries that I can't even believe he has any credibility left at all to convince anyone he's Satoshi.
I guess this does not matter as he does not need to fool everyone but because cryptocurrencies are the fastest growing space on the planet right now, he will temporarily fool enough who are new to the space and get insane returns.
Not only can Craig not sign or send from early blocks or deliver any proofs, he also cannot prove that he controls email accounts used by Satoshi or even the original login here on this forum.
The guy is a fraud and its been proven many times over.

It's the reason why we don't have to believe and trust someone like him because he's a deceiver, he's manipulating every situation to appear that he's right. What can you expect on someone who claim himself as someone else but is not capable on showing evidences to assure us that it's legit and he is the person behind that pseudonym? he's just trying to take advantage of the attention he's getting to get the benefits that he wanted. Well he ruins his own reputation. You will just feel remorse at the end if you choose to believe him because his statements are completely nonsense and it is much better if we just focus on much more important things.

[vennali]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Unfortunately, you are on your own on this one.

[avikz]

Just one question. What happened to the bonded courier of the Tulip Trust with the keys of the loads of bitcoin as Craig claimed? What happened to his claimed doomsday of bitcoin?

If someone stil thinks CSW is satoshi, it's his/her own thought and we can't do anything about it! Cheers!

[franky1]

Just one question. What happened to the bonded courier of the Tulip Trust with the keys of the loads of bitcoin as Craig claimed? What happened to his claimed doomsday of bitcoin?

in 2013 he told 3 businesses he moved coins into new shell companies and new trusts and used that as collateral for 3 companies to pay him some investment.
so not only scamming the ATO(aussi tax office) with tulip he then rescammed other businesses with the so called collateral migration.
(no coins actually moved though(hint: fake migration))


then it became common knowledge he didnt have keys to the 2009-10 stash so tried to reinvent documents that said he owned other coins from later dates to try keeping ATO and the companies at a arms distance.
that too fell flat due to people recognising some of the addresses as not being craigs as they belonged to others(mtgox for instance). now craig teamed up with ira. to make a frenemy (friends pretending to be enemies) debate over who owns this supposed collateral just to keep the supposed collateral 'locked up' so he can claim he has no access to it due to legal proceedings. ..
.. basically his poor excuse to avoid saying he aint got the coins and never had them. by continually saying he isnt allowed to touch them for numourous reasons..


the reasons big investors are trying to keep the deception under wraps and try to say craig is satoshi. because they want craig to generate more funds to pay back original investors just long enough so they can exit before it all comes crashing down
by the way bsv market price is pretty much break even mining cost. so he isnt really making profit to make new funds to repay old investors. so i presume he is opening up new investment firms and selling patents to make money(ponzi style)

[jossiel]

I myself am not sure if he is Satoshi.

He's not.

He don't have proof to show as you mentioned and many times this topic has been discussed. Just spare that man, don't even think that you are not sure if he's satoshi. No one knows who satoshi is and even him.

What happened to his claimed doomsday of bitcoin?

We will probably see his tweet soon and admits it was a joke and asks for an apology to the public.  

[charlesmichel1]

Satoshi is still a mystery to this day. I don't believe Craig Wright, he needs to prove his confession better. Or we will call him "Faketoshi".

[xvids]

Why is it stilla big deal this Faketoshi has been proved for so many times so why would you even debate if he is the real or not?
It is clear that Craig is just pushing his Bitcoin SV and believe that it is the real Bitcoin.
Why would you even consider him as Satoshi if he himself calls a clone the true Bitcoin?

[CryptoBry]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

There is nothing in this article that really says Craig Wright is Satoshi. The idea that Craig Wright is a computer security expert does not really proves that he is Satoshi. This article do not tell us anything people in the crypto space hasn't heard or seen before. Its just a waste of time reading it.

Based on the thinking of this group, then I am now wondering why are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto because they too are computer experts, can code well and maybe also has that taste for lying just like Craig Wright. Of the many faketoshis, however, it is CW which is the most popular and the most successful one, and may add the most brazen one. He will surely go down and will have a reserved place in the history of Bitcoin even as an afterthought.

[Zeke_23]

Why is it stilla big deal this Faketoshi has been proved for so many times so why would you even debate if he is the real or not?
It is clear that Craig is just pushing his Bitcoin SV and believe that it is the real Bitcoin.
Why would you even consider him as Satoshi if he himself calls a clone the true Bitcoin?

The reason for that is to give confusion to all of us. I don't know the reason but there is nothing states in this article that can prove that CW is the real one. It only states that he is an expert when it comes to computer security.
More like claiming to be satoshi just to get his project to be known and get more investors, that's how he markets his product.

[Debonaire217]

Why is it stilla big deal this Faketoshi has been proved for so many times so why would you even debate if he is the real or not?
It is clear that Craig is just pushing his Bitcoin SV and believe that it is the real Bitcoin.
Why would you even consider him as Satoshi if he himself calls a clone the true Bitcoin?

Would it be right to consider that bitcoin SV would not be there iif bitcoin isn't? Because bitcoin codes is actually open source and that opens up the opportunity for allot of programmers and businesses to create their cryptocurrency. And that is because of bitcoin who provided all of this opportunity.

[sovie]

Why we Think Craig Wright is Satoshi who thinks that Craig Wright is Satoshi? I think there is none who believe that Craig Wright is Satoshi rather he is Faketoshi.
His recent claim was “Today is last day of bitcoin” on Jan 01, 2020. Lets just get away with this Fakteoshi.

[styca]

Why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters

We don't. It doesn't.

[DooMAD]

My thoughts are:  Change the topic title immediately because Faketoshi isn't satoshi.  I don't care how many clickbait websites and blog posts the scammers set up in an attempt to mislead people.

[Eclipse26]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Such a long post about Craig Wright but did we even think of Craig is the real Satoshi in the first place? I didn't bother to read the whole post, only the beginning part because it's too long. Even with that such long blog, Craig Wright will always be a faketoshi and it won't change because he is not Satoshi! Does Craig Wright claiming to be Satoshi matter to us? We keep on talking about it but we don't believe any of his words.

[alexsandria]

Yes, that matter at least. But Satoshi Nakamoto doesn't remain discreet, and decided to hide in shadows just to claim that he is Craig Wright later on. This claim is missing something. Besides though it looks like it is close to reality, it ain't making sense because it ain't making point why Satoshi decided to hide in the first place.

[BitcoinFX]

i read the article and even read the transcripts of some of the stuff linked.

craig did not have tax returns listed in 2008-2009 related to bitcoin which then came into question with the ATO... the ATO were interested in the 2013+ crap of craig creating shell companies and trusts with no collateral.

the transcripts funnily enough say that craig moved funds out of Dave kleiman and wright tulip trust and put coins into new trusts.. yet the satoshi stash has not moved.

craig later claims the tulip trust didnt contain satoshi stash(09-10) but a later stash of random coins(11-13)... but later coin analysts revealed the public keys craig claimed as his were actually coins of multiple people including mtgox

kind of funny really CSW says he has the 2009-2010 stash. years later 'i have a stash of 2011-2013 stash'... but even the new stash is proved not his... many laughs were made


so knowing craigs tulip trust did not hold the coins of 2009-2010. shows that craig didnt have access to the true satoshi stash..
thus not satoshi

and then faking ownership by listing publicly available public keys as his .. fraud basically. proves he is a fraudster.

the ATO still want their tax grants back. hense why craig is hiding in UK and not going to return to australia

Furthermore ...

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Image Source: @lopp on twitter

"/Shuz" - *Satire* - SWIM
- https://youtu.be/LPBTaVfsfrQ *NSFW*

Epic fail ...

The Bitcoin affair: Craig Wright promises extraordinary proof
- https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36193006

Gavin Andresen ... CIA Informant ...

Gavin will visit the CIA
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.0

Gavin Andresen Now Regrets Role in Satoshi Nakamoto Saga
- https://www.coindesk.com/gavin-andresen-regrets-role-satoshi-nakamoto-saga

Jon Matonis ... was on nChains payrole ... also worked at hushmail ...

nChain Appoints Bitcoin Foundation Executive Jon Matonis As Vice President of Corporate Strategy
- https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2017/05/99637-nchain-appoints-bitcoin-foundation-executive-jon-matonis-vice-president-corporate-strategy/

Hushmail Turns Out To Not Be Quite So Hush Hush
- https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071108/093110.shtml

Hushmail To Warn Users of Law Enforcement Backdoor
- https://www.wired.com/2007/11/hushmail-to-war/

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- https://soundcloud.com/proofofbeats/signal-to-noise-ratio-vitalik-mic-drop

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"Craig Wright - The @unboundedcap scam

Came across this article:

hxxps://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters …

with a link to this @Bitcoin_Beyond article:

hxxps://medium.com/@Bitcoin_Beyond/forensic-report-raises-questions-about-australian-tax-offices-handling-of-craig-wright-probe-138843251ef5 …

It's all #Faketoshi bullshit, so let's debunk it.

1/12"

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1214550090024660992

[CarnagexD]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Such a long post about Craig Wright but did we even think of Craig is the real Satoshi in the first place? I didn't bother to read the whole post, only the beginning part because it's too long. Even with that such long blog, Craig Wright will always be a faketoshi and it won't change because he is not Satoshi! Does Craig Wright claiming to be Satoshi matter to us? We keep on talking about it but we don't believe any of his words.

Certainly, this Satoshi Nakamoto wannabe is nothing short of a liar in the internet. Just because he knows how to code well and stuff doesn't necessarily mean that he is indeed the father of bitcoin. Besides, bitcoin is already bigger than its creator and even if the real Satoshi Nakamoto shows himself, nothing much will really happen. Bitcoin is already independent from Satoshi. We should focus our attention on something else than this Craig Wright.

[Norway]

Lol, denial is strong here. Happy 2020  

Here is today's debate between Greg Maxwell and Craig Wright:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21978328

[NotFuzzyWarm]

@OP, who is "we" Kemosabe? Would be better if this topic was titled "Why some People Think Craig Wright is Satoshi and Why That Matters".
Personally I think CW is a self-promoting asshat that just like to make pointless noise (and certainly is not Satoshi).

[bitbunnny]

Another speculation about Satoshi's identity. Of course without any solid evidence. I reallly don't understand why are people so eager to reveal identity like that would change anything for them or for Bitcoin. That really gets boring and all these theories about Satoshi that appear all the time are ridiculous.

[samcrypto]

My thoughts are:  Change the topic title immediately because Faketoshi isn't satoshi.  I don't care how many clickbait websites and blog posts the scammers set up in an attempt to mislead people.

Hiring trolls to make him great is irritating, and I will never consider him as the real Satoshi. It doesn’t matter who’s Satoshi but knowing CW he will do everything to fool people, and it only matters if they too focus on knowing the real identity of bitcoin developer. Its new year already, but still CW keep on misleading the people.

[Getmon]

My thoughts are:  Change the topic title immediately because Faketoshi isn't satoshi.  I don't care how many clickbait websites and blog posts the scammers set up in an attempt to mislead people.

Hiring trolls to make him great is irritating, and I will never consider him as the real Satoshi. It doesn’t matter who’s Satoshi but knowing CW he will do everything to fool people, and it only matters if they too focus on knowing the real identity of bitcoin developer. Its new year already, but still CW keep on misleading the people.

Do you think CSW will have a new year's resolution to stop acting and claiming that he is the real Satoshi? He will not. It is too late to back out of this stupid debate. He has already invested too much on this. In fact, his entire dignity and credibility, even if he has almost zero of it, will go down to nothing if he will end up confessing that he is not and that he has made up all of those. What he is holding onto right now is that tiny pride in him.

[Norway]

[bitcoindusts]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

It never cross my mind that CW is Satoshi.  Satoshi had been on hiding so I believe it does not matter anymore whether CW is satoshi or not because Bitcoin had been taken over by several developers and I believe Bitcoin development is doing good even though it is somehow lagging (because f consensus, updates and upgrade is not easily done).

[Jet Cash]

I thought it was becoming accepted that Satoshi was/is a team on individuals from the banking/defence world. At best Craig Wright will just be a red herring that they have thrown into the turbulent crypto pool.

[hv_]

I think Satoshi wanted you to do own research, more bticoin related  - not that much ppl related

Bitcoin is about the Internet of values

And if CSW is really Satoshi - that I d understand he is that hard to get

[jaxy]

I don't think anyone actually trust this guy, it's just about personnal interests

[hv_]

I thought it was becoming accepted that Satoshi was/is a team on individuals from the banking/defence world. At best Craig Wright will just be a red herring that they have thrown into the turbulent crypto pool.

Actually I understood from his first interview that he was forced to do the front running.

He sounded really pissed

 https://micky.com.au/bitcoin-sv-spikes-20-as-hedge-fund-believes-satoshi-story/

[DooMAD]

Actually I understood from his first interview that he was forced to do the front running.

He sounded really pissed

Toddlers get pretty indignant when they're lying to your face because they don't want to get caught being in the wrong.  I see Faketoshi very much as an angry little toddler throwing a tantrum because no one believes his tall tales.

[Fappanu]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Who think Craig Wright  is Satoshi Nakamoto? 

Honestly, this guy has yet to prove that he is actually Satoshi Nakamoto.

And even simply putting up a bitcoin sign message he couldn't.

[gabmen]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Who think Craig Wright  is Satoshi Nakamoto? 

Honestly, this guy has yet to prove that he is actually Satoshi Nakamoto.

And even simply putting up a bitcoin sign message he couldn't.

Funny thing is, people still take the time to discuss whether he's satoshi or not. We don't even have any evidence that satoshi is an actual singular person lol. This claim by craig wright is pretty much the same as john mcaffee's claim that he'll eat his dick if btc doesn't go to 1m this year. Both are utterly rubbish and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Norway]

If you want to learn about the possibilities of bitcoin, payment channels and future signature schemes like these Cambridge students, spend half an hour on this video that was released today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=Qal1leB05DQ&feature=emb_logo

Do your own research 

[BitcoinFX]

If you want to learn about the possibilities of bitcoin, payment channels and future signature schemes like these Cambridge students, spend half an hour on this video that was released today.

hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=Qal1leB05DQ&feature=emb_logo

Do your own research  

We did. CSW is a Snake Oil salesman.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil

Actually I understood from his first interview that he was forced to do the front running.

He sounded really pissed

Toddlers get pretty indignant when they're lying to your face because they don't want to get caught being in the wrong.  I see Faketoshi very much as an angry little toddler throwing a tantrum because no one believes his tall tales.

GQ interview with Craig Wright "F##K OFF!"
- https://youtu.be/7YUTq7_vO3A *NSFW*

[Getmon]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Who think Craig Wright  is Satoshi Nakamoto? 

Honestly, this guy has yet to prove that he is actually Satoshi Nakamoto.

And even simply putting up a bitcoin sign message he couldn't.

Funny thing is, people still take the time to discuss whether he's satoshi or not. We don't even have any evidence that satoshi is an actual singular person lol. This claim by craig wright is pretty much the same as john mcaffee's claim that he'll eat his dick if btc doesn't go to 1m this year. Both are utterly rubbish and shouldn't be taken seriously.

The mystery that shrouds the name Satoshi Nakamoto is enough for people to react every time an individual comes forward claiming himself Satoshi. But this Craig Wright is doing it more stubbornly and persistently. He looks stupid in what he is doing. I will not be wondering if John McAfee ends up more appreciated than Craig Wright. At least John has humor. Lol.

[airdnasxela]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Who think Craig Wright  is Satoshi Nakamoto? 

Honestly, this guy has yet to prove that he is actually Satoshi Nakamoto.

And even simply putting up a bitcoin sign message he couldn't.

Funny thing is, people still take the time to discuss whether he's satoshi or not. We don't even have any evidence that satoshi is an actual singular person lol. This claim by craig wright is pretty much the same as john mcaffee's claim that he'll eat his dick if btc doesn't go to 1m this year. Both are utterly rubbish and shouldn't be taken seriously.

It's not really a discussion if he's the real Satoshi or not. Discussion about Craig Wright is becoming a discussion of his new lies. We're already aware that he is not Satoshi and it's not worth it to discuss it again and again especially here in the forum. But the thing is, he keeps on talking and saying something about Bitcoin that's why he can still gets the attention of us... I wonder when will he stop talking nonsense

[Norway]

People with strong confirmation bias form echo chambers like this forum. It's a very bad investment strategy.

[bittraffic]

Why did he fork BSV when instead he could just work with BTC if he just own it?

CSW doesn't really look like he can code something extra ordinary like BTC, he can't discuss something that might just keep the interest of the BTC users into believing something or even just made us think he could be Satoshi but all he did is just claim he is satoshi. I bet he can only code a hello world script.

[Norway]

Why did he fork BSV when instead he could just work with BTC if he just own it?

CSW doesn't really look like he can code something extra ordinary like BTC, he can't discuss something that might just keep the interest of the BTC users into believing something or even just made us think he could be Satoshi but all he did is just claim he is satoshi. I bet he can only code a hello world script.

Bitcoin is not a computer program. Lots of CS-people get this wrong. It's an economic game with rules. Software is just a tool.

[hv_]

Why did he fork BSV when instead he could just work with BTC if he just own it?

CSW doesn't really look like he can code something extra ordinary like BTC, he can't discuss something that might just keep the interest of the BTC users into believing something or even just made us think he could be Satoshi but all he did is just claim he is satoshi. I bet he can only code a hello world script.

Bitcoin is not a computer program. Lots of CS-people get this wrong. It's an economic game with rules. Software is just a tool.

Bitcoin is first the idea, written down in the white paper, it has a socio-economical consensus, a protocol design.

True, once that needs to have a real world instance, some lines of code must be put down and computers need a program to run, here the problems are starting, cause bugs and limitations are nature of real word instances. It always helps to keep such as simple as possible, KISS.

Segwit, LN, ... was the opposite

[Norway]

Why did he fork BSV when instead he could just work with BTC if he just own it?

CSW doesn't really look like he can code something extra ordinary like BTC, he can't discuss something that might just keep the interest of the BTC users into believing something or even just made us think he could be Satoshi but all he did is just claim he is satoshi. I bet he can only code a hello world script.

Bitcoin is not a computer program. Lots of CS-people get this wrong. It's an economic game with rules. Software is just a tool.

Bitcoin is first the idea, written down in the white paper, it has a socio-economical consensus, a protocol design.

True, once that needs to have a real world instance, some lines of code must be put down and computers need a program to run, here the problems are starting, cause bugs and limitations are nature of real word instances. It always helps to keep such as simple as possible, KISS.

Segwit, LN, ... was the opposite

Yes, I agree. Bitcoin SV is restoring the original, unbounded protocol. That includes restoring OP-codes that was chucked out by Core and bringing big numbers back. The complete Bitcoin script language is much more powerful and general than Core devs understood. It's like Forth, and most younger devs don't understand that you can unroll loops etc unbounded with Bitcoin script. With BigNum back, you can even do cryptographic math pretty effectively with fewer iterations. Bitcoin script wasn't made to give inexperienced devs a simple job, but to have something that scales to the world. Developers will probably use tools like this online interpreter to write bitcoin script in the years ahead:
http://scrypt.studio/

[gmaxwell]

That includes restoring OP-codes that was chucked out by Core and bringing big numbers back.

So you agree that Satoshi was part of 'Core'?  Because it was Satoshi that deactivated opcodes... no one else.

[Norway]

That includes restoring OP-codes that was chucked out by Core and bringing big numbers back.

So you agree that Satoshi was part of 'Core'?  Because it was Satoshi that deactivated opcodes... no one else.

Lol, you're an idiot. I don't care about you. We are building Bitcoin as it was meant to be, and we are not waiting for laggards like you.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

That includes restoring OP-codes that was chucked out by Core and bringing big numbers back.

So you agree that Satoshi was part of 'Core'?  Because it was Satoshi that deactivated opcodes... no one else.

Lol, you're an idiot. I don't care about you. We are building Bitcoin as it was meant to be, and we are not waiting for laggards like you.

No your building a community of trolls end of........

Why would someone who say's they understand blockchain post an address of stolen MTGOX coins  in a court paper..
Tulip Trust?  More like IDIOT who didn't know what he was putting in these documents....

Page 9....

https://www.scribd.com/document/372445141/Exhibit-11

1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF

https://blog.wizsec.jp/2018/02/kleiman-v-craig-wright-bitcoins.html

OOPS... So he's a liar and a thief..

Don't waste time on revenge. The people who hurt you will eventually face their own karma.

[Norway]

That includes restoring OP-codes that was chucked out by Core and bringing big numbers back.

So you agree that Satoshi was part of 'Core'?  Because it was Satoshi that deactivated opcodes... no one else.

Lol, you're an idiot. I don't care about you. We are building Bitcoin as it was meant to be, and we are not waiting for laggards like you.

No your building a community of trolls end of........

Why would someone who say's they understand blockchain post an address of stolen MTGOX coins  in a court paper..
Tulip Trust?  More like IDIOT who didn't know what he was putting in these documents....

Page 9....

https://www.scribd.com/document/372445141/Exhibit-11

1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF

https://blog.wizsec.jp/2018/02/kleiman-v-craig-wright-bitcoins.html

OOPS... So he's a liar and a thief..

Don't waste time on revenge. The people who hurt you will eventually face their own karma.

As a BTC bag holder, you should fear the utility of Bitcoin (BSV) more than the Tulip trust

[DooMAD]

restoring the original, unbounded protocol.

Horseshit.  The original protocol did not require an Emergency Difficulty Adjustment.  The original protocol wasn't so weak and feeble that it wouldn't survive without breaking the original consensus rules like that.

Mess about with the formula all you like, you simply can't recreate all the vital parts that make Bitcoin what it is.

If you want to talk about your forkcoin, there's an Altcoins sub for that.  Stop defecating all over Bitcoin Discussion with your altcoin crap.

[Norway]

restoring the original, unbounded protocol.

Horseshit.  The original protocol did not require an Emergency Difficulty Adjustment.  The original protocol wasn't so weak and feeble that it wouldn't survive without breaking the original consensus rules like that.

Mess about with the formula all you like, you simply can't recreate all the vital parts that make Bitcoin what it is.

If you want to talk about your forkcoin, there's an Altcoins sub for that.  Stop defecating all over Bitcoin Discussion with your altcoin crap.

AFAIK, the DAA will be restored later this year, but not at feb 4th. I can think of a good reason for that, but I will not share it.

[fiulpro]

Even if he is Mr. Satoshi I would still see him in the same light as I see him today , because if a man is worthy, it's shown by his actions and so far all he have shown is selfishness and literally no respect , even for the dead person ..
I really don't think why it will matter. ?
You think the market is swayed by him ? Or the people will start running after him for decades ?
The identity doesn't matter , this is what bitcoins teaches us. !

[lixer]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

I couldn’t finish the whole article, it was too much so I read the first few paragraphs and skimmed through the others.
I don’t really have any opinion about this and I don’t know if CSW is the real Satoshi Nakamoto or not, I have seen a lot of people claim to be Satoshi but CSW was the only one I know that took the case seriously, maybe he is or maybe he’s not.

But, is Satoshi the only one that created the cryptocurrency bitcoin or are there others? But whatever, I’m just going stick to the point that has been made by a lot of people about Satoshi being dead.

[Polar91]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

I couldn’t finish the whole article, it was too much so I read the first few paragraphs and skimmed through the others.
I don’t really have any opinion about this and I don’t know if CSW is the real Satoshi Nakamoto or not, I have seen a lot of people claim to be Satoshi but CSW was the only one I know that took the case seriously, maybe he is or maybe he’s not.

But, is Satoshi the only one that created the cryptocurrency bitcoin or are there others? But whatever, I’m just going stick to the point that has been made by a lot of people about Satoshi being dead.

Basically to test and determine if Craig Wright could possibly be the real satoshi, he should know the bitcoin protocol better than others, and escape to his world of marketing and business talks. He should be more technical rather than more skeptical, knows how to accept opinions and how to prove bitcoin is created by him through the very first blocks ever created. In addition, Craig Wright is evidently promoting other cryptocurrency which in fact a direct manifestation of not owning bitcoin.

[maydna]

I never think about Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto because I am sure that the real of Satoshi Nakamoto still hiding somewhere, and he doesn't want to show to the public that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. We don't know why he doesn't want to introduce and give the real proves to us, and perhaps, he will have the reason. But if someday he thinks that he needs to explain more about the bitcoin project, he will show himself to the public.

But I am sure that in the future, many people will claim that he is the real Satoshi, and he will show the evidence that proves he is the real. But that will not make the public believe because to be the real of Satoshi Nakamoto needs to explain the details of the bitcoin project from the beginning, and he needs to sign in his own wallet.

[Norway]

[Rengga Jati]

We think? I assume only a few people think the same as you, most people mustn't agree that Craig Wright is Satoshi. I also disagree that he is the real Satoshi. I don't know what's happening with Craig Wright telling people that he is Satoshi. It is absolutely no sense if Satoshi will show his identity in that way. Satoshi is the one who initiated about anonymity, so I'm pretty sure that he must hide his real identity.

[taufik123]

Until now I didn't think Craight Wright was Satoshi the creator of bitcoin.
Craight Wright is just a BSV coin salesman who is crazy about wanting to be number one in bitcoin.
actually it's not only Craight Wright who claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but Craight Wright is a very controversial person who always voices his claims from time to time.
a lot of speculation has occurred that claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but there hasn't been a figure that is truly verified as the original Satoshi Nakamoto.
Maybe only Craight Wright had the strongest controversy but still there was no Universal recognition of the claims he made.

[Norway]

From the debate between Dr. Craig Wright and One Meg Greg I linked to in a previous post for people who can't read well:

"A message to Greg Maxwell From Dr. Craig Wright"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t8AXTXOLBk

[Norway]

Small Block Segwit Man is at this stage:

[meanwords]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Why I won't click on that article and why I won't care about faketoshi:

1) I know that your article will spill a bunch of bullshitery that focuses on the attention of the users. Bunch of gibberish words that doesn't even make sense in the first place. Maybe throw some facts so that people think it is legit.

2) Who dafuq listens to that scammer? Even if he doesn't have any solid proof that he is the real one, he still claims that he is. All I know is that he's probably one of the most insane guy in the world.

[Norway]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Why I won't click on that article and why I won't care about faketoshi:

1) I know that your article will spill a bunch of bullshitery that focuses on the attention of the users. Bunch of gibberish words that doesn't even make sense in the first place. Maybe throw some facts so that people think it is legit.

2) Who dafuq listens to that scammer? Even if he doesn't have any solid proof that he is the real one, he still claims that he is. All I know is that he's probably one of the most insane guy in the world.

Not read the article and then guess what the content is. Great strategy to stay ignorant.

I feel like Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globe in this thread, lol.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I sold all of my BSV when Blockchain.info ended their support for the coin in 2019. Back then, I had to sell them for around BTC0.009 per coin. Now the prices have risen by more than 100%. I still don't believe that Craig Wright has anything to do with Satoshi Nakamoto. But I am open to the idea of investing in this coin. I have invested in BCH and BTG. So why not BSV?

[meanwords]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters


What are your thoughts?

Why I won't click on that article and why I won't care about faketoshi:

1) I know that your article will spill a bunch of bullshitery that focuses on the attention of the users. Bunch of gibberish words that doesn't even make sense in the first place. Maybe throw some facts so that people think it is legit.

2) Who dafuq listens to that scammer? Even if he doesn't have any solid proof that he is the real one, he still claims that he is. All I know is that he's probably one of the most insane guy in the world.

Not read the article and then guess what the content is. Great strategy to stay ignorant.

I feel like Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globe in this thread, lol.

I've actually read the article to stay educated and yup, it's bullshit. Though thanks to this kind of shills, I am making more money than I should have lol. Come on fan boys, pump those bsv even further until it runs out of milk.

[Wintersoldier]

I sold all of my BSV when Blockchain.info ended their support for the coin in 2019. Back then, I had to sell them for around BTC0.009 per coin. Now the prices have risen by more than 100%. I still don't believe that Craig Wright has anything to do with Satoshi Nakamoto. But I am open to the idea of investing in this coin. I have invested in BCH and BTG. So why not BSV?

Well, coins do really have potential to increase more than 100 percent, the only problem is the way how Craig Wright is doing his advertisement which  is indeed, not the usual thing and isn't acceptable to the community. If he just focus on his own cryptocurrency creation, then it could attract more investors but since he is trying to lure bitcoin investors to his coin and claim being Satoshi, it just imparted negative reputation of him to the people who believes that he isn't telling the truth.

[BChydro]

a lot of speculation has occurred that claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but there hasn't been a figure that is truly verified as the original Satoshi Nakamoto.
Maybe only Craight Wright had the strongest controversy but still there was no Universal recognition of the claims he made.

There are two situations for this, either the real team or person behind bitcoin all died so that no one can come up and claim something that is different and verify to the entire world that some who are claiming are just fake pretenders and it is 4 years and no one came up disputing the claims and that shows that the entire team or the person behind the bitcoin project died. When it comes to recognition you can only prove something by showing cryptographic proof and no one is able to show that till now.

[White Christmas]

a lot of speculation has occurred that claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but there hasn't been a figure that is truly verified as the original Satoshi Nakamoto.
Maybe only Craight Wright had the strongest controversy but still there was no Universal recognition of the claims he made.

There are two situations for this, either the real team or person behind bitcoin all died so that no one can come up and claim something that is different and verify to the entire world that some who are claiming are just fake pretenders and it is 4 years and no one came up disputing the claims and that shows that the entire team or the person behind the bitcoin project died. When it comes to recognition you can only prove something by showing cryptographic proof and no one is able to show that till now.

This is already an unfinished business because anyone can really do the same as Craig Wright do that he claims that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. If Satoshi is a single person nor a team then probably it would be really hard for us to claim and know who the real satoshi nakamoto is. One thing that I have been pretty sure is, Satoshi Nakamoto is really a bright men in which he already know that bitcoin will be one of the most trends in the future way back to their time and he or they already have a plan on hiding themselves in order to protect their security and identity to the other people.

[buwaytress]

OMG SegWit is exposed I had no idea! All the txs I've been making for over 18 months are all bad and killing the dream.

In which universe can we ever argue that any of these counter proposals are anywhere close to the original idea of Satoshi? The only one who has an idea of what they'd envisioned is Satoshi themselves, and they probably don't have a unilateral view -- precisely why they left.

Stop saying why you think CW is who he claims to be and just ask him to prove it. It really is that easy.

[Reatim]

never that i though about CW is satoshi so don't say word as if it's general since maybe just you who believe that 

and also it doesn't matter to me if whom Craig Wright because i don't really trust this man.


ask Craig to bring more proofs here,then maybe some consideration may come after that.

[seagates]

He has no access to Satoshi money and dont have same key as him. This is the main proof that he is not Satoshi

[Palider]

He has no access to Satoshi money and dont have same key as him. This is the main proof that he is not Satoshi

Because even signing a message to Satoshi Nakamoto wallet or even moved bitcoin to another wallet that is simple prof to do are not provide by this fake satoshi.
Its better if they collab with co founder of bitcoin Jorg Molt  

[red4slash]

He has no access to Satoshi money and dont have same key as him. This is the main proof that he is not Satoshi

Because even signing a message to Satoshi Nakamoto wallet or even moved bitcoin to another wallet that is simple prof to do are not provide by this fake satoshi.
Its better if they collab with co founder of bitcoin Jorg Molt  

there is no strong evidence to prove that he is a Satoshi Nakamoto, and I do not believe that Satoshi Nakamoto will reveal his identity after a few years of his disappearance. I think it's better for Satoshi Nakamoto to be anonymous, rather than confession as a fake Satoshi

[BeManga]

He has no access to Satoshi money and dont have same key as him. This is the main proof that he is not Satoshi

i agree if he is the real satoshi he must have access to the wallet
this guy will do everything to create hype to gain profit
maybe he is also looking for some fame by taking credit for the things he doesn't own
those who support and own BSV will regret it someday
i will not be surprised if the coin price drop in the future when that guy sell all his coin

[Oceat]

He has no access to Satoshi money and dont have same key as him. This is the main proof that he is not Satoshi

Because even signing a message to Satoshi Nakamoto wallet or even moved bitcoin to another wallet that is simple prof to do are not provide by this fake satoshi.
Its better if they collab with co founder of bitcoin Jorg Molt  

there is no strong evidence to prove that he is a Satoshi Nakamoto, and I do not believe that Satoshi Nakamoto will reveal his identity after a few years of his disappearance. I think it's better for Satoshi Nakamoto to be anonymous, rather than confession as a fake Satoshi

Whoever falls for his lies doesn't know about Bitcoin. People should stop sharing any lies that the faketoshi claiming because you guys are feeding his ego to do more and more lies. The guy doesn't know how to open or even send a single coin on the wallet address that Satoshi been using.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Stop saying why you think CW is who he claims to be and just ask him to prove it. It really is that easy.

If he is able to do that then he would have already done that by now rather than getting all the trolls in the world and be like a joker kind of figure in the entire crypto space  . If someone is able to prove that he is the real Satoshi, it really does matter because it will have a huge impact on the market and what ever he says will have value.

[gmaxwell]

This does a decent job taking the blog post apart: https://medium.com/@samwill102244/response-to-unbounded-capitals-attempt-to-show-that-craig-wright-is-satoshi-4256602c2a64

[ibminer]

[taufik123]

-snip- that shows that the entire team or the person behind the bitcoin project died.

I think the people behind bitcoin actually still exist. They maintain their anonymity so that their identity is not exposed by the public. People who did follow bitcoin right from the start would understand that the claim made by Craight Wright was only speculation and did not have a claim from any party.

-snip- One thing that I have been pretty sure is, Satoshi Nakamoto is really a bright men in which he already know that bitcoin will be one of the most trends in the future way back to their time and he or they already have a plan on hiding themselves in order to protect their security and identity to the other people.

The Real Satoshi Nakamoto is a smart person and is inversely proportional to the nature of Craight Wright who always claims to be the creator of bitcoin. The reason why Satoshi Nakamoto is hiding his identity is because of security. It would be very dangerous if his real identity was discovered.

[Shasha80]

After reading the article in the opening post did not make me change my mind that craig wright is still faketoshi. There must be
strong proof to prove that craig wright was satoshi nakamoto, but until now craig wright failed to show such evidence.There are
only lies that try to influence people to believe that they are satoshi nakamoto.And all of us not a fool who can be fooled by all his
words. If it is true that craig wright real satoshi nakamoto should be able shows that he has 1 million BTC in his wallet, because
Satoshi Nakamoto is said to have 1 million BTC in his wallet.

[arielbit]

there is no vision......what vision?

so satoshi left and come back to fork bitcoin? LOL

unless craig sign satoshi's wallets he is not satoshi, if he is not satoshi, how come it is called "satoshi's vision"

what is bitcoin now? it is the decentralized community of miners, coders, shitcoiners, scammers, schemers, gamblers, investards...i can go on and on.. a "VISION" of one man is meaningless now. so cut the crap with the "VISION" shit LOL

[Eugenar]

there is no vision......what vision?

so satoshi left and come back to fork bitcoin? LOL

unless craig sign satoshi's wallets he is not satoshi, if he is not satoshi, how come it is called "satoshi's vision"

what is bitcoin now? it is the decentralized community of miners, coders, shitcoiners, scammers, schemers, gamblers, investards...i can go on and on.. a "VISION" of one man is meaningless now. so cut the crap with the "VISION" shit LOL

This is his way of promoting the currency he have, Craig Wright might look stupid upon doing these things but in fact, he is getting a huge support by people who could see the light within the cryptocurrency Craig implemented. Though, I don't support his claims, I threat all cryptocurrency as having potential to be profitable in the future, but the way he is promoting is making me dislike his forked cryptocurrency even though I see it performing very well in the market.

Lesson, focus on what you have, because we will not grow making others fall.

[bitcoindusts]

This is his way of promoting the currency he have, Craig Wright might look stupid upon doing these things but in fact, he is getting a huge support by people who could see the light within the cryptocurrency Craig implemented.

I wonder where is the light within his message?  All I know is he is bringing chaos and confusion to the market by deceiving people that he is Satoshi.

Though, I don't support his claims, I threat all cryptocurrency as having potential to be profitable in the future, but the way he is promoting is making me dislike his forked cryptocurrency even though I see it performing very well in the market.

Lesson, focus on what you have, because we will not grow making others fall.

Better to learn other things than staying on what we had learned, this way it will make us grow and understand better things.

[shoreno]

we ? no not we  . majority of people dont instantly believe news especially about the revelation of satoshi  . we will always question it and investigate further if someone appeard and present himself as satoshi .

 and with that  , they found out that this craig wright is fake and not really the real satoshi  . it does not matter if it fake but it matters the most if he is a real satoshi  . i think sato wont show up so the chance of seeing him is slim

[arielbit]

there is no vision......what vision?

so satoshi left and come back to fork bitcoin? LOL

unless craig sign satoshi's wallets he is not satoshi, if he is not satoshi, how come it is called "satoshi's vision"

what is bitcoin now? it is the decentralized community of miners, coders, shitcoiners, scammers, schemers, gamblers, investards...i can go on and on.. a "VISION" of one man is meaningless now. so cut the crap with the "VISION" shit LOL

This is his way of promoting the currency he have, Craig Wright might look stupid upon doing these things but in fact, he is getting a huge support by people who could see the light within the cryptocurrency Craig implemented. Though, I don't support his claims, I threat all cryptocurrency as having potential to be profitable in the future, but the way he is promoting is making me dislike his forked cryptocurrency even though I see it performing very well in the market.

Lesson, focus on what you have, because we will not grow making others fall.

light?? what light? what kind of light? the truth the way and the light kind of shit? LOL

yes we make others fall so we could rise. BTC vs fiat printing inflation, world war 1, world war 2, free market economy...even your own feet you can't raise the other foot without pushing the other down.

[hv_]

there is no vision......what vision?

so satoshi left and come back to fork bitcoin? LOL

unless craig sign satoshi's wallets he is not satoshi, if he is not satoshi, how come it is called "satoshi's vision"

what is bitcoin now? it is the decentralized community of miners, coders, shitcoiners, scammers, schemers, gamblers, investards...i can go on and on.. a "VISION" of one man is meaningless now. so cut the crap with the "VISION" shit LOL

This is his way of promoting the currency he have, Craig Wright might look stupid upon doing these things but in fact, he is getting a huge support by people who could see the light within the cryptocurrency Craig implemented. Though, I don't support his claims, I threat all cryptocurrency as having potential to be profitable in the future, but the way he is promoting is making me dislike his forked cryptocurrency even though I see it performing very well in the market.

Lesson, focus on what you have, because we will not grow making others fall.

light?? what light? what kind of light? the truth the way and the light kind of shit? LOL

yes we make others fall so we could rise. BTC vs fiat printing inflation, world war 1, world war 2, free market economy...even your own feet you can't raise the other foot without pushing the other down.

BTC has already fallen / lost to be the leader as it should be, cause it could do all that what the other shitcoins try to do, like smart contracts, P2P cash with low fees - all that borderless compliant with a single Blockchain system called Satoshi BitCoin.

BitCoin didn't start having a ticker, so it can change tickers as ppl attach some to it at their own will, but BitCoin doesn't change protocol and Satoshi's idea.

If protocol changes away from BitCoin it is no longer BitCoin ( don't care about tickers, right?)

If ppl sell shitcoin under name of Satoshi's BitCoin, they fraud. CSW calls that out quite noisy, so no wonder lots of trolling comes over him and try to call him fraud (this practice is well known btw)


Not

All

Getting

THIS

[luppecuppe]

Why does this matter get so long? Never mind who Satoshi is. How has Bitcoin developed in 10 years? What does it mean to come up with these issues? I really do not understand. If you want to prove it already, you have to do it. The first block is signed. This much.

[arielbit]

there is no vision......what vision?

so satoshi left and come back to fork bitcoin? LOL

unless craig sign satoshi's wallets he is not satoshi, if he is not satoshi, how come it is called "satoshi's vision"

what is bitcoin now? it is the decentralized community of miners, coders, shitcoiners, scammers, schemers, gamblers, investards...i can go on and on.. a "VISION" of one man is meaningless now. so cut the crap with the "VISION" shit LOL

This is his way of promoting the currency he have, Craig Wright might look stupid upon doing these things but in fact, he is getting a huge support by people who could see the light within the cryptocurrency Craig implemented. Though, I don't support his claims, I threat all cryptocurrency as having potential to be profitable in the future, but the way he is promoting is making me dislike his forked cryptocurrency even though I see it performing very well in the market.

Lesson, focus on what you have, because we will not grow making others fall.

light?? what light? what kind of light? the truth the way and the light kind of shit? LOL

yes we make others fall so we could rise. BTC vs fiat printing inflation, world war 1, world war 2, free market economy...even your own feet you can't raise the other foot without pushing the other down.

BTC has already fallen / lost to be the leader as it should be, cause it could do all that what the other shitcoins try to do, like smart contracts, P2P cash with low fees - all that borderless compliant with a single Blockchain system called Satoshi BitCoin.

BitCoin didn't start having a ticker, so it can change tickers as ppl attach some to it at their own will, but BitCoin doesn't change protocol and Satoshi's idea.

If protocol changes away from BitCoin it is no longer BitCoin ( don't care about tickers, right?)

If ppl sell shitcoin under name of Satoshi's BitCoin, they fraud. CSW calls that out quite noisy, so no wonder lots of trolling comes over him and try to call him fraud (this practice is well known btw)


Not

All

Getting

THIS

Bitcoin may or may not be a leader, but it is the first decentralized programmable money, it can rise and it can fall but it stays because people used it, are using it and will use it. i like shitcoins but bitcoin stays 

what matters is now, so far so good.

fuck the start, fuck satoshi, fuck your ticker and fuck your fork.

give craig wright a blowjob.

[emortal7]

Incase you weren't paying attention....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

It's over, Craig Wright has the keys

[masker0817]

Incase you weren't paying attention....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

It's over, Craig Wright has the keys

According to https://www.scribd.com/document/442965735/Motion-to-Continue-CSW, Craig just provided a list of address and nothing else.

I will wait longer.

[pawanjain]

Faketoshi has tried claiming that he is the real Satoshi so many f***ing times that even if proves that he is the real Satoshi, I and many others won't believe him.
He has been trying so hard over the years claiming himself to be Satoshi and indulging himself in so many cases.
I bet none of the crypto enthusiast would actually support him for whatsoever reason he gives.

[Leonardo7]

This is just another lengthy article. Trying to theorize why Craigh Wright is Satoshi and that he needs not sign a transaction, that this is not necessary. It's important and proof of reality or true identity. Until then I won't believe any article making CSW as the RealSatoshi.

[Astvile]

Let's wrap this up. Basically Craig Wright is not the real Satoshi. He can't provide the convincing evidence the community is asking him to prove he is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto. The most basic proofs he can't even provide he can only provide haymakers to us.

[DooMAD]

If you present arguments that Craig Parasite is satoshi, you are facilitating criminal activity.  You are an accomplice in an act of identity theft.  You are as much of a fraud as CSW himself.

[hv_]

there is no vision......what vision?

so satoshi left and come back to fork bitcoin? LOL

unless craig sign satoshi's wallets he is not satoshi, if he is not satoshi, how come it is called "satoshi's vision"

what is bitcoin now? it is the decentralized community of miners, coders, shitcoiners, scammers, schemers, gamblers, investards...i can go on and on.. a "VISION" of one man is meaningless now. so cut the crap with the "VISION" shit LOL

This is his way of promoting the currency he have, Craig Wright might look stupid upon doing these things but in fact, he is getting a huge support by people who could see the light within the cryptocurrency Craig implemented. Though, I don't support his claims, I threat all cryptocurrency as having potential to be profitable in the future, but the way he is promoting is making me dislike his forked cryptocurrency even though I see it performing very well in the market.

Lesson, focus on what you have, because we will not grow making others fall.

light?? what light? what kind of light? the truth the way and the light kind of shit? LOL

yes we make others fall so we could rise. BTC vs fiat printing inflation, world war 1, world war 2, free market economy...even your own feet you can't raise the other foot without pushing the other down.

BTC has already fallen / lost to be the leader as it should be, cause it could do all that what the other shitcoins try to do, like smart contracts, P2P cash with low fees - all that borderless compliant with a single Blockchain system called Satoshi BitCoin.

BitCoin didn't start having a ticker, so it can change tickers as ppl attach some to it at their own will, but BitCoin doesn't change protocol and Satoshi's idea.

If protocol changes away from BitCoin it is no longer BitCoin ( don't care about tickers, right?)

If ppl sell shitcoin under name of Satoshi's BitCoin, they fraud. CSW calls that out quite noisy, so no wonder lots of trolling comes over him and try to call him fraud (this practice is well known btw)


Not

All

Getting

THIS

Bitcoin may or may not be a leader, but it is the first decentralized programmable money, it can rise and it can fall but it stays because people used it, are using it and will use it. i like shitcoins but bitcoin stays 

what matters is now, so far so good.

fuck the start, fuck satoshi, fuck your ticker and fuck your fork.

give craig wright a blowjob.

I hear you and your good faith

Stay out of BitCoin

Good for all

[FanatMonet]

Craig Wright is not Satoshi. He can say anything, but he has been lying many times, I don’t even understand why some people still believe him, because this is some kind of madness. He constantly says: “I Satoshi believe me,” people tell him to show evidence, and in the end they are not convincing. And so again and again.

[emortal7]

Brothers it does not even matter that CSW is Satoshi

[Wintersoldier]

Let's wrap this up. Basically Craig Wright is not the real Satoshi. He can't provide the convincing evidence the community is asking him to prove he is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto. The most basic proofs he can't even provide he can only provide haymakers to us.

What if he's really Satoshi Nakamoto in his personal life? I mean, there are people that is psychologically believing they are someone that isn't really them, making that event, their actual personality. Though, we couldn't believe that for a reason that Craig is a business man, we know businessman have their own ways on how to attract market adoption and demand for their product, and Craig basically explicitly endorsing bitcoin cash and SV to people by making them believe he's the real Satoshi.

[hv_]

Brothers it does not even matter that CSW is Satoshi

That's funny, but bagholders just care and scare

[BitcoinMoses]

There are so many Craig Wright
you all make argument and fight
all about Craig Wright.
Craig Wright is a good drama artist.
Who claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto.
There are many more Satoshi Nakamoto in Japan.
Some people think he is Faketoshi
Some other do believe in him without know the truth
that Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym of Bitcoin Inventor,
who is hidden, because of concrete classified reason.
CIA and MI5 know who is real Satoshi Nakamoto.
Satoshi Nakamoto also knows the CIA and MI5.
Satoshi Nakamoto is actually a Robot created
by the Inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology,
who is visible but unseen.
If you want want to 'Meet Satoshi Nakamoto' find Satoshi and meet Satoshi.
He will tell the true story, who he is and why he is invisible ?

[DooMAD]

Craig is a business man

No, there's a fine line between a businessman and a criminal.  Faketoshi has definitely crossed that line and is a criminal.  There's nothing legitimate about his enterprise.

Brothers it does not even matter that CSW is Satoshi

That's funny, but bagholders just care and scare

He said, pretending as though he's not the bagholder in this situation.  Talk about flogging a dead horse.  

[BChydro]

There are many more Satoshi Nakamoto in Japan.

Anyone can create any alias name.

Some other do believe in him without know the truth
that Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym of Bitcoin Inventor,
who is hidden, because of concrete classified reason.

Bogus reason and anyone who invested in bitcoin trust his concept and so is the reason everyone is here.

CIA and MI5 know who is real Satoshi Nakamoto.
Satoshi Nakamoto also knows the CIA and MI5.

Just another speculation without any facts

Satoshi Nakamoto is actually a Robot created
by the Inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology,
who is visible but unseen.

If there is an AI that is this advanced then it will destroy everything  .

If you want want to 'Meet Satoshi Nakamoto' find Satoshi and meet Satoshi.
He will tell the true story, who he is and why he is invisible ?

It is like chasing a ghost .

[BTC Bridges]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters

What are your thoughts?

Incase you weren't paying attention....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

Join the discussion over at https://twetch.app

In my opinion it does not even matter that CSW is Satoshi because of the innovation on Bitcoin SV.

Because Craig Wright doesn't matter one bit in a PERMISSIONLESS OPEN FINANCE SYSTEM

......
_________________


Reasons to be bullish about BitcoinSV

$BSV
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments
- Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin
- Scales
- Apps can be built on top of it
- Videos and images, on chain forever
- Actually utilized
- Works within law

https://www.bsvdevs.com/

An article of Favorite Apps on the BSV Chain that work NOW and TODAY: https://bryandaugherty.net/my-favorite-metanet-applications-tools-and-ways-to-earn-use-bitcoin/

https://twetch.app is an example of on-chain scaling at $BSV. Not on $BTC.  Imagine an ad free environment in Apps. The power of pre-payments also shifts to the buyer instead of the vendor simultaneously lowering costs and improving the content. Twetch App is approaching 10,000 users.

Twetch describes itself as a decentralized social network that lets you own your data & earn money for your content. DM their twitter account for access to private beta & sign up at http://twetch.com

https://twitter.com/twetchapp

UptimeSV is Distributed, crowdsourced network intelligence. The first network intelligence service to collect real, verifiable user data and pay nodes for doing so, in realtime.

https://uptimesv.com/

Tokenized is the easiest and safest way to issue, manage and trade security and utility tokens on the Bitcoin SV network.

 Money Button is a wallet that grants you access to the BSV blockchain of the bitcoin network. It is completely non-custodial, so you are in charge of your keys, coins and financial sovereignty! Money Button works wonderfully as a peer-to-peer payments tool with a simple, functional interface, and a very easy-to-learn interface: Enter an address and slide to pay. Simple. Human-readable addresses and handles!

https://www.moneybutton.com

Build your City on Chain!
https://cityonchain.com/

An example of low fees on BSV:
PS how crazy is this:  
$10 between 200 people, fee of approx 3c (at 1sat/byte)
391 outputs.
Nuts. Just crazy,
And.... it is going to get WAYYY cheaper.
https://twitter.com/riverish333/status/1220824688366059523
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPE9lJYW4AI8A2O?format=jpg&name=large


Why build on Bitcoin SV?

Bitcoin SV is Bitcoin with the original protocol. It can be used for money, but also as a development platform.

Creative developers and entrepreneurs are taking advantage of Bitcoin SV's unique capabilities to build amazing businesses and products. They're choosing BSV because:

    A stable protocol decentralizes power and enables builders to focus on long-term goals, like creating better customer experiences
    Large blocks allow Bitcoin to scale to handle the world's traffic
    Microtransactions enable entirely new classes of business models

Bitcoin SV is ready for what you want to build—the only limit is your imagination.


I think in hindsight BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.

Wow.

This "A stable protocol decentralizes power..."
vs.
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments


Why We Think Craig Wright is Satoshi and Why That Matters
Is your OP primarily intended to be about Craig or an ad for BSV? Do you really understand what decentralize means?

[hv_]

In the end it doesn't matter much.

What matters more is that all ppl on the world can have better money and pay their coffees with BitCoin for just no / lowest fee, by having honest regulated miners running and securing by incentives (PoW) the system in datacenters distributed over the world.

All honest and specked up by Satoshi about 10y ago

Have fun and coffee
https://coingeek.com/in-south-africa-you-can-pay-for-your-coffee-with-bitcoin-sv/

[emortal7]

https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters

What are your thoughts?

Incase you weren't paying attention....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

Join the discussion over at https://twetch.app

In my opinion it does not even matter that CSW is Satoshi because of the innovation on Bitcoin SV.

Because Craig Wright doesn't matter one bit in a PERMISSIONLESS OPEN FINANCE SYSTEM

......
_________________


Reasons to be bullish about BitcoinSV

$BSV
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments
- Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin
- Scales
- Apps can be built on top of it
- Videos and images, on chain forever
- Actually utilized
- Works within law

https://www.bsvdevs.com/

An article of Favorite Apps on the BSV Chain that work NOW and TODAY: https://bryandaugherty.net/my-favorite-metanet-applications-tools-and-ways-to-earn-use-bitcoin/

https://twetch.app is an example of on-chain scaling at $BSV. Not on $BTC.  Imagine an ad free environment in Apps. The power of pre-payments also shifts to the buyer instead of the vendor simultaneously lowering costs and improving the content. Twetch App is approaching 10,000 users.

Twetch describes itself as a decentralized social network that lets you own your data & earn money for your content. DM their twitter account for access to private beta & sign up at http://twetch.com

https://twitter.com/twetchapp

UptimeSV is Distributed, crowdsourced network intelligence. The first network intelligence service to collect real, verifiable user data and pay nodes for doing so, in realtime.

https://uptimesv.com/

Tokenized is the easiest and safest way to issue, manage and trade security and utility tokens on the Bitcoin SV network.

 Money Button is a wallet that grants you access to the BSV blockchain of the bitcoin network. It is completely non-custodial, so you are in charge of your keys, coins and financial sovereignty! Money Button works wonderfully as a peer-to-peer payments tool with a simple, functional interface, and a very easy-to-learn interface: Enter an address and slide to pay. Simple. Human-readable addresses and handles!

https://www.moneybutton.com

Build your City on Chain!
https://cityonchain.com/

An example of low fees on BSV:
PS how crazy is this:  
$10 between 200 people, fee of approx 3c (at 1sat/byte)
391 outputs.
Nuts. Just crazy,
And.... it is going to get WAYYY cheaper.
https://twitter.com/riverish333/status/1220824688366059523
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPE9lJYW4AI8A2O?format=jpg&name=large


Why build on Bitcoin SV?

Bitcoin SV is Bitcoin with the original protocol. It can be used for money, but also as a development platform.

Creative developers and entrepreneurs are taking advantage of Bitcoin SV's unique capabilities to build amazing businesses and products. They're choosing BSV because:

    A stable protocol decentralizes power and enables builders to focus on long-term goals, like creating better customer experiences
    Large blocks allow Bitcoin to scale to handle the world's traffic
    Microtransactions enable entirely new classes of business models

Bitcoin SV is ready for what you want to build—the only limit is your imagination.


I think in hindsight BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.

Wow.

This "A stable protocol decentralizes power..."
vs.
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments


Why We Think Craig Wright is Satoshi and Why That Matters
Is your OP primarily intended to be about Craig or an ad for BSV? Do you really understand what decentralize means?

Decentralization is a meme when the Bitcoin Core team controls your entire protocol. Decentralization is a fluff word and was not mentioned once in the original WP. Get good

[emortal7]

if CSW wasn't Satoshi then why would he getting sued for being Satoshi and owning the keys

[Zemomtum]

All these articles are just to promote Bitcoin Satoshi Version thereby pumping its price as we see recently. Either it is real or not is not a subject matter for me to invest in it, I will rather look at the present team if they can deliver the promise as highlighted in the roadmap

[emortal7]

Dummy boys can't see that utility is the only thing that matters and trading on exchanges =/= UTILITY


https://bitcoinsv.com/en/why-bsv

[devioso8]

There is plausiblity that CSW is Satoshi and he doesn't have to sign the keys to prove it.

All that matter is that he is able to prove it under International Law Courts.

Put your bias aside and bet on BSV under the high Risk/Reward ratio that CSW is Satoshi.

If he is Satoshi he will have the ability to market Bitcoin better than anyone to the mainstream world and that will bring global adoption with the protocol ready.

The Teranode update removes the blocksize limit on Blocks and lets miners decide what size blocks they accept.

It is time for you to re-examine your bias on BSV and accept that on-chain scaling works.

[devioso8]

Dummy boys can't see that utility is the only thing that matters and trading on exchanges =/= UTILITY


https://bitcoinsv.com/en/why-bsv

SV isn't bought or traded due to it's so called utility (utility of being a shitcoin) it is bought and traded on the belief that craig is Satoshi and there could be some sort of flippening when he tanks real bitcoin, unfortunately for you dweebs who bought into the bullshit he isn't Satoshi, and he can't tank Bitcoin. There will never be some flippening to BSV, BSV will soon enough die out and be a distant memory while Bitcoin will carry on doing what it does.

Imagine missing out on the trade of the century because Craig man bad

SHEEP

[carlisle1]

i never thought that Craig S Wright is satoshi nakamoto mate and i believe that majority of us here don't as well.

First - why it took him so many years before claiming to be one?when he can just do it in the first years?

Second - what about the 1 million Bitcoin in Satoshi's wallet?why can't he prove?

Third - and important thing is,all are asking about him signing message for all the wallets connected to Satoshi's name?

that is why i am sure that he is a FakeToshi and will never prove His claims.

[devioso8]

If you're so sure of yourself make sure to short BSV with maximum leverage over at KuCoin / CoinEX

[Sithara007]

If you're so sure of yourself make sure to short BSV with maximum leverage over at KuCoin / CoinEX

ROFL... That is a good point. I have come across a lot of people who believe that Crag S Wright is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. But surprisingly, none of these people would exchange their Bitcoins for BSV (not at 1:1 ratio, but at market rates). If they are so sure about Mr. Wright, then what prevents them from amassing BSV? Also, now it is clear that Wright doesn't possess the private keys to move Satoshi's 1 million coins. The bonded courier which he received didn't contained any keys. So how he is going to prove that he is the real Satoshi?

[rodskee]

I agree CSW is NOT Satoshi..

10. You shall not give false testimony (he did)

obviously these OP is one of the right hand of CSW or maybe he is one of the Biggest investors in BSV so he is pushing anything to make Craig legit his Claim but cannot even prove about it.
in February we will all see the truth if he can Sign a message on all the addresses he claims ,and if he fail?then he is a real one "Fraud"

no wonder why Newbie account is posting this kind of thread?why not those High ranking supporters of CSW?